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New WM7 Gaming Concept

I was wondering if the technology is available to connect an xbox controller to a WM7 phone. If this could be accomplished, Microsoft wouldn't have to stick to the terrible arcade game intergration, but could expand it to include Actual Xbox 360 games, downloaded as application games for retail prices (or less), or the games might be transferrable from your xbox (with the disk in it) to your phone as a one time download. This would truly make the WM7 phone the ultimate entertainment device, and it would distinguish it from any other phone company out there.
Any thoughts on how to make this happen, or if it's even possible?

In theory it's possible but you'd have to have a computer hooked up to the controller running a web service that the game communicates with. It would be much too slow to be useable.

So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?

blaiz123 said:
So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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no. Too much lag. Even on WiFi it would be too laggy for most games.
If Microsoft did a massive change in their policies or somehow sanctioned this, you would have to have some sort of hardware dongle connected to the phone that would allow the phone to communicate to the controller. Then you wouldn't have the lag. But that's not gonna happen.

Yea, the tech is there, but is it worth it? The addition steps and input latency would just ruin it. A Much easier concept would be using the wii mote or PS3 controller since they both have Bluetooth connectivity. There have already been hacks with android, winmo 6.5, and the Iphone where people have used the Wiimote/PS3 controller for gaming. I see no reason for it unless your running a console emulator.

... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7

Iridox said:
... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
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Still have the ol host-peripheral problem. Both devices are expecting to be a peripheral. The Xbox controller also expects to get power from the host. Possible? Most likely (depends on the hardware in the phone). Practical? Absolutely not.

As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.

IM0001 said:
As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
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good news is the games are all written in XNA so a port would be simple, its just up to the developers to do it & figure out touch controls

I can just imagine, the emulator ports you smart guys at xda will be able to come up with. I will have a mobile beast in my hands.

Have you guys searched Youtube for some of the awesome games already in production for WP7? Their are a lot of new guys making simple XNA games that look promising then their are games like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7UHk1k4xY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLLp6kLe1IA&feature=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksEnvA_hQA&feature=fvwas well as Apps like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnkWbUxFqNk&feature=related coming out. Seriously sweet stuff.

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PaperBall
Next War
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Harvest looks alright but the rest looks like crap...

A Fundamental Reason to choose Android 3.0 over WP7

I actually kind of agree with the two posters, it really is an unrealistic idea, but it will eventually come true... I guess it's a bit early to speculate with only one vague article but a whole army of critics

XNA is good for MUCH more than "crappy Xbox live demos". XNA is used for lots of games on the XBL Arcade already. What makes you think that Sony is going to be able to do better on Android than Microsoft is on WP7? Xbox has easily the best dev tools around and that is brought over onto WP7. The only chance that Android's game dev capabilities could even come close to WP7 is if Sony creates a set of libraries, standards, and dev tools specifically for games. I highly doubt that will happen. Also, will Google even let them? It's been said that Google will be tightening the specs for Android 3 so it remains to be seen just how much. Every game will work on every WP7 phone. That will be a large base of potential customers. Any PSP-phone game would only work with that single device. Why would developers spend time and money targeting such a limited install base? Sony would be just another OEM for Android whereas Microsoft runs the show with WP7. And finally, there's been no announcements or even real leaks about a PSP phone. Who knows if it will ever happen? Also, this would be a reason to choose a PSP phone over WP7 phone but wouldn't apply to the rest of Android.

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while the guy next to you is playing Modern Warfare 2 on his SE Playstation phone in full 1080P HD and a true 3D experience[/url]
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Its very sad if you think that will happen, a phone cant handle that most ps3 & 360 games dont even run in 1080p natively & if a phone could the batter would last like 45 min & your phone would be very very hot not to mention the phone would need a super chip to be able to do that & that would raise the cost of the phone up greatly...anyway dont know why you bring up silverlight, all the major 3D & graphically intense games will be written in xna
not sure why i even responded to this, but good luck with your PlayStation phone that you think will have better graphics or games then a psp

Psp is a playstation portable, exactly. There is a playstation emulator for Android already out. So they will have the exact same games.
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vetvito said:
Psp is a playstation portable, exactly. There is a playstation emulator for Android already out. So they will have the exact same games.
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Emulation is generally more buggy than games coded for that platform.
Sony is going to make the same mistake here that they did on the console market. A big factor of why 360 pulled ahead of PS3 was that it was easier for developers to code for the xbox360 than it was to code for the PS3. Also developers could make a game in XNA and quickly port it to windows.
Making a game for wp7 now allows you to port that to 360 and PC quite easily. What does making a game for Android & iphone get you? It just gets you on one platform really. This is something Sony can't do and why wp7 really is a true gaming platform. While android and the iphone are very capable of running games they just don't have the tools that MS does.
As long as wp7 sells decently, I can't see bigger studios not getting behind wp7 in a big way. They should be able to crank out quality games wayyyy faster than the competition, since there are tons of professional game developers very accustomed to XNA.

First off 360 pulled ahead because of the gaming titles, i.e. Halo and the network xbox live.
Second, who on earth wants to play the same game on three different platforms? There is no market for this. Fun and exciting on a phone won't yield the same results on a PC or gaming system.
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blaiz123 said:
I actually kind of agree with the two posters, it really is an unrealistic idea, but it will eventually come true... I guess it's a bit early to speculate with only one vague article but a whole army of critics
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No Biggie....there are plenty of reasons to pick android over wp7, but i dont think gaming will ever be 1 of those reasons

No Biggie....there are plenty of reasons to pick android over wp7, but i dont think gaming will ever be 1 of those reasons
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That's true.

vetvito said:
First off 360 pulled ahead because of the gaming titles, i.e. Halo and the network xbox live.
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Xbox live and Halo 1&2 were both on the regular xbox. However, it didn't really phase ps2 though, not to mention that PS had many exclusive titles as well. So what changed that the ps3, the industry leader, faulted to the upstart? The ease of development was in MS's corner. Cell architecture took a bigger learning curve. XNA was easy, and allowed for quick cross platform implementation.
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Second, who on earth wants to play the same game on three different platforms? There is no market for this. Fun and exciting on a phone won't yield the same results on a PC or gaming system.
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Plants vs. Zombies (Casual Gaming in General), Adventure games like Monkey Island, Lots of current games on Xbox live arcade would suit touch experiences just fine. RPGs like Harvest, Carmack is porting a touch version of Rage to the iPhone, that's a multiplatform game. I could go on, but I think you get the point.

Live sucked on the first xbox. Games did too. Although Halo did do well. PS2 dominated.
PS3 hurt itself price wise, it was just too expensive, but it stayed sold out. Sony couldn't keep up with the demand.
360 had a better price. Although MS lost money with each system sold.
Wii kicked both of their asses though!
Also I have never heard of any of those games, none.
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vetvito said:
Although MS lost money with each system sold.
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And so did Sony.
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Wii kicked both of their asses though!
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Because it's a more casual thing than PS3 and XBox. It also is a fine second console. Few people would have both PS3 and XBox (some do), but Wii as a complement to a hardcore console is just fine.
Back to the PSP phone, I am skeptical about its future. It's done by Sony Ericsson who will want to have it as a differentiator against other Android phones just as against other OSes. They want to build it with specific hardware buttons, and the games developed for it will most probably not be as much fun or won't work at all on other phones. Even if they are developed with other phones in mind, it's not at all necessary that other phones will have similar quality hardware/high performance drivers to benefit from these games. And finally, Sony will most probably want to set a high price point for these games as they won't want to cannibalize their own product (even if such a decision would benefit them overall).

I can agree with your whole comment.
Especially the differentiate part.
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I think there's a huge misinterpretation when talking about Android and Playstation. Android (for the most part) will not be getting legitimate PlayStation games, it's the other way around. Android is coming to the PSP.

lordcanti86 said:
I think there's a huge misinterpretation when talking about Android and Playstation. Android (for the most part) will not be getting legitimate PlayStation games, it's the other way around. Android is coming to the PSP.
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That's what I'm hoping. The idea of an Android handset that runs "PSP" games really doesn't appeal to me. On the other hand, when the PSP Go came out I thought to myself "this would be a great device if it had a touch screen, a decent browser and maybe some apps". If Sony release a new PSP that runs Android with an XMB skin it'd be pretty awesome!

lordcanti86 said:
I think there's a huge misinterpretation when talking about Android and Playstation. Android (for the most part) will not be getting legitimate PlayStation games, it's the other way around. Android is coming to the PSP.
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It will be PSP Phone on Android.

vetvito said:
Live sucked on the first xbox. Games did too. Although Halo did do well. PS2 dominated.
PS3 hurt itself price wise, it was just too expensive, but it stayed sold out. Sony couldn't keep up with the demand.
360 had a better price. Although MS lost money with each system sold.
Wii kicked both of their asses though!
Also I have never heard of any of those games, none.
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You sir must have been living under a rock in the gaming world right now. At least on the PC side of things.
I do agree with him that their are many games that would be awesome to have multi platform capabilities. Plants Vs Zombies is my current crack and love playing it on my PC and Netbook as well as a 2G iPhone my buddy let me have since he got a 4. (no I do not use the iPhone for anything asside from PvZ actually lol). Monkey Island was a classic adventure game that is actually really good on WM6.5 with Scum emulator, and other Xbox Arcade titles like the little known "Greed Corp" would be epic on the phone since it is 3d, simple, quick (games last 15minutes MAX) and turn based so multiplayer would work.

[Q] Hardcore or casual?

Just a quick question: Is this phone's gaming-thingies more for the hardcore or could potentially be for the hardcore? or is it geared toward the casual gamer? considering other platforms have Dead Space and NFS Shift? Having second thoughts

I'd say casual, it has xbox live integration however the current selection of games on offer are either overpriced or indie / casual orientated. ilomilo for example.

The whole idea of gaming on a mobile device is that it's casual. It's deigned for people who want to play a game while on the bus, during free time, in queues.
Yes, gaming on mobiles will improve but they'll always be casual. Why would someone want to play on a 3.7" screen when they have a large HDTV and XBOX / PS at home?
Even in technologically advanced games such as Dead Space, it's still designed to give you something to do when you have a little time to waste.

Casual, in fact, mobile gaming will always be consider casual in my opinion due to the fact that they have to last all day. I personally wouldn't take hardcore gaming serious on a phone when I have a laptop that can run just about any game.

WP7 - casual
IOS/Android -hardcore and casual, especially with HDMI out or video out. You basically have a Wii and a Playstation in your hand.
Smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC, remember that.

vetvito said:
Smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC, remember that.
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Maybe mid range powered PC, not even a replacement to a decent specs gaming laptop. Maybe one day they will catch up to PS3/360 graphics power, but the GPU will never reach PC power due to being SoC. PC gaming is getting crazy powerful and if AMD does something, it looks like the resolution might get way high.
In other news, you can play Angry Birds on Wintel and Mac OS X.

Games on PC will be cross platform played with their mobile counterparts.

vetvito said:
Games on PC will be cross platform played with their mobile counterparts.
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Why would I want to play watered down versions of games? I will still choose computer over mobile any day, mainly because I don't have to make calls on my computer. Oh and
Don't see smartphones OS' being taken serious for hardcore gaming, unless you consider the tablet counterparts with the larger screen size.

A phone can't match the hardware performance of an Xbox 360, PS3 or a new generation PC because of the size constraints, battery restriction, etc. You can't really compare a game console that is always plugged to the power source to a phone, or even a tablet, that has to use a small battery.
Now, phones still get some really good games, but a console/pc will still be a better place for hardcore gamers.

Both.
They're the best games I've ever played on a mobile. Coming from years on Android I thought they had some decent games until I came over.
Some are Casual, some are "Hardcore" (especially since you describe NFS Shift as Hardcore, WP7 has NFS Undercover).
The Harvest is a pretty hardcore game for a mobile, as is Ilomilo. Max and the Magic Marker is a good platformer and Earthworm Jim was ofc already a SNES game. All of these games I've mentioned I'd have no problem playing on my Xbox so I'd call them hardcore.

Who said anything about matching hardware performance of today? Fact smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC capabilities. Its like you guys want to argue for fun, but this is a fact.
WP7 is lonely gaming. When im around my friend with a iphone, I can pull out my android phone and play against him. Everyone doesn't have an iphone, and everyone doesn't have a Android, but we can play against each other effortlessly.
Hardcore to me is everything beyond Angry birds style of gaming.

brummiesteven said:
The Harvest is a pretty hardcore game for a mobile, as is Ilomilo. Max and the Magic Marker is a good platformer and Earthworm Jim was ofc already a SNES game. All of these games I've mentioned I'd have no problem playing on my Xbox so I'd call them hardcore.
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Apparently ilomilo is a game you can get on the Xbox live thing. One day, we might see something like Gears of War or any other Xbox like games on WP7 phones.
I do believe that because WP7 has Xbox live, which is infinity better than well, whatever Android and iOS uses, that it might have some potential for more "hardcore" gaming.
Plus, Microsoft has experience in gaming. They have the 360 and in some ways, PC. Apple and Google, not so much.

The only thing Xbox LIVE wins at is chat. Game Center pawns at everything else. And you know what Xbox LIVE is available on every other major smartphone OS.
Microsoft has a huge chance to take this market over, but right now their screwing it up.

vetvito said:
Game Center pawns at everything else.
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And all the games with Game Center enable are casual. Unless you want to argue about how Pac Man and Angry Bird is consider hardcore.

This is supposed to be casual.
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canadariot2312 said:
Maybe mid range powered PC, not even a replacement to a decent specs gaming laptop. Maybe one day they will catch up to PS3/360 graphics power, but the GPU will never reach PC power due to being SoC. PC gaming is getting crazy powerful and if AMD does something, it looks like the resolution might get way high.
In other news, you can play Angry Birds on Wintel and Mac OS X.
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yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
canadariot2312 said:
Apparently ilomilo is a game you can get on the Xbox live thing. One day, we might see something like Gears of War or any other Xbox like games on WP7 phones.
I do believe that because WP7 has Xbox live, which is infinity better than well, whatever Android and iOS uses, that it might have some potential for more "hardcore" gaming.
Plus, Microsoft has experience in gaming. They have the 360 and in some ways, PC. Apple and Google, not so much.
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I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.

canadariot2312 said:
And all the games with Game Center enable are casual. Unless you want to argue about how Pac Man and Angry Bird is consider hardcore.
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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player. But please let's not turn this into every other OS sucks except WP7.

nrfitchett4 said:
yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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Halo port? Isn't NOVA out, change the name and its the same thing as Halo.

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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player. But please let's not turn this into every other OS sucks except WP7.
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why not? According to you, every OS rocks except wp7.

nrfitchett4 said:
yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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The PSP2 is designed for one thing, gaming obviously, at least I hope Sony is marketing it as that.
I've only played Halo once and it seems pretty fun. Would be really cool if they had the energy sword on the port.
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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player.
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Yes I have. It reminds me more of the Nintendo DS gaming, which is casual.

Xbox Live is a big unfunny joke

So according to Microsoft, Live on WP7 is their plan to compete against the 3DS and the NGP. But then they keep on releasing one title a week which is almost always a puzzle game (some Castlevania puzzler tomorrow).
You have to wonder what part of the platform they are taking seriously because everything is evolving at an alarming pace.
Don't they know that games are the most downloaded apps on other platforms? This is depressing.

Seems that they are indeed WP7's bestsellers and Microsoft continues to release games each week... so what's the problem?

They said XBL was pivotal to the platform, yet they release one single puzzle game a week. Not how you build a gaming platform is it? Can you imagine if apps were released at this rate? I don't see how else I can explain it.
Not that I bought my phone to play games but many people do nowadays.

Yeh XBL on WP is abit over-rated. But imo theyre focusing more on making it a companion to your xbox, rather than be a full fledged hardcore gaming device. Microsoft is focusing on the mass market casual gamers (where the money is) and not the hardcore gamers.

I don't think it's so much a matter of what MS focuses on as what third party developers are ready to provide at this time. Since the user base is rather small it's too risky to make expensive games, hence all this puzzle stuff.
The situation gets even more complicated for them because there are no native APIs. No matter how good XNA is, it means that code cannot be reused between iOS, Android andWP7, so they would need to keep a completely separate fork and maintain it. There was information from Epic who tried to bring their Unreal engine but didn't get permission from Microsoft to use native code. Of course they won't do it in XNA, it's most likely not even possible. But even if it were, it would be prohibitively expensive.

I don't really know how they'll compete against the 3DS and the NGP with these type of games. Like releasing Backgammon to compete with Zelda and God of War. I'm not dissing these casual games but as a gamer, I really think they must release a mix of both hardcore and casual games much like the iOS, Dead Space and Dungeon Defenders along with Fruit Ninja and Angry Birds.

I dont really see the point yet to release hardcore games without the performance update.
Stick to puzzles everyone likes puzzles their the most popular smartphone games in the world

I wouldn't call iOS a hardcore platform mainly because there are no physical buttons on any of their hardware. Yes 'hardcore' games are impressive, but when compared to a similar game on consoles/pc's, the controls are toned down to adapt to a touchscreen-only input, therefore making the overall gaming experience more 'casual'. A touchscreen imo best used to accompany hardware controls.

Yes that is true. Still, a good mix of both hardcore and casual games wouldnt hurt, as they will also cater to both sides of the market.

One xbox live title a week I find a decent enough time period. The games their releasing may not be the best, but others have already said why. I think that as the percentage of WP7 devices increase the quality of games will increase (it took the iPhone a long time to get something like Infinity Blade and Rage).

Am I the only one that notices the kinect demo? That game looked lame but the possibilities are looking great.

I agree with the OP. If Microsoft thinks they will be able to compete with the 3DS they need to start shelling out something other than puzzle games. Ive purchase most of the WP7 "xbox" live games save for the crappy anime stuff...and it is all variations of the same thing.
Making another shooter would be great. Resident Evil 4 got released on ios, why cant we get something like that.

The kinect demo is now showing up on my xbox, check the pic.
Yeah xbox live sucks on the phone now, but the possibilities are endless with kinect and multiplayer, as demonstrated.

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I agree with the OP. If Microsoft thinks they will be able to compete with the 3DS they need to start shelling out something other than puzzle games. Ive purchase most of the WP7 "xbox" live games save for the crappy anime stuff...and it is all variations of the same thing.
Making another shooter would be great. Resident Evil 4 got released on ios, why cant we get something like that.
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+1 for this. Also, they already have all of those devs for XBLA. So what could be holding them back? The Xperia Play (Android) was also announced and its launch titles ,http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Android/Sony+Ericsson+Xperia+Play/news.asp?c=27473 are better than that overpriced Pacman. I'm not really into buying overpriced, 1970's games just for cheevos. Also, the other platforms already have MMO's out, that can be played in quick bursts of around 5-10mins or longer (Pocket Legends). Besides, they released games like The harvest and NFSU, why can't they do it again? This is Xbox live after all, or is it?
Also, that kinect integration is really something to look forward to. That is IF you have the console and the Kinect itself (which I don't have).

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I don't really know how they'll compete against the 3DS and the NGP with these type of games. Like releasing Backgammon to compete with Zelda and God of War. I'm not dissing these casual games but as a gamer, I really think they must release a mix of both hardcore and casual games much like the iOS, Dead Space and Dungeon Defenders along with Fruit Ninja and Angry Birds.
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No one is going to compete those dedicated Gaming Devices with a phone.
If you really want to find a competition, it's gonna be the Xperia Play which is no better than XBL on WP7.
Although I'm looking forward to another 3D RPG/shooter coming to WP7

here's Xperia Play's line up of launch titles, from Pocket Gamer:
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agreed
The Harvest and ilomilo IMO are the only ones worthy... i mean cmon, if microsoft wants to push the xbox brand on phones there should be at least a level of quality, graphics, and gameplay it must fill before its worthy of the logo. but what i see is some ho hum puzzle games and iphone ports with achievements built in... really? the sad part is when they were speculating this weeks release, they said that castlevania was coming to WP7.... and look what it turned out to be
i would love to see a exclusive WP7 version of HALO (NOVA exists so its more than possible) that should skyrocket the xbox live brand with gamers

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The Harvest and ilomilo IMO are the only ones worthy... i mean cmon, if microsoft wants to push the xbox brand on phones there should be at least a level of quality, graphics, and gameplay it must fill before its worthy of the logo. but what i see is some ho hum puzzle games and iphone ports with achievements built in... really? the sad part is when they were speculating this weeks release, they said that castlevania was coming to WP7.... and look what it turned out to be
i would love to see a exclusive WP7 version of HALO (NOVA exists so its more than possible) that should skyrocket the xbox live brand with gamers
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I don't think they need to go so far as putting Halo on WP7 either, like someone else said mobile gamers are mostly casual gamers.
However they can do on mobile what they did on XBLA, middle ground games that appeal to everyone and that have quality. Indeed, no need to push the Xbox brand if you're not going to use it properly.
And only one game a week is just ridiculous.

Middle ground games or a mix of both casual and hardcore games. It'd be better if every week, they release 2 games. One for the casual gamer, one for the core gamer. Agree that releasing only one game a week is not good, unless they are running out of games to release hence the decision of 1game per week.

Seriously one game a week is amazing. You can't beat that.
External inputs turns other mobile OSs into hardcore gaming.
Microsoft needs not to forget XBL isn't successful for unlocking achievements.

WP7 - best smartphone gaming platform

Gang, now having all three popular major smartphone systems has allowed me to sample the gaming offerings they provide. It looks like WP7 provides the most fun and best games of all of them....simplistic and casual and high quality type games. There's a larger amount of more enjoyable games on WP7 than on iOS or Android.
I'm not a biased person and love all smartphone systems equally so please keep the rants and misunderstandings out . And am merely reporting what I'm experiencing. I'm driven to WP7 for the gaming enjoyment and spend more time playing games on it.
The current games I like and find very enjoyable for passing time are...not in ranked order:
ilomilo
Tiki Towers (I know, it's also on other systems)
iBlast Moki
Need for Speed: Undercover
Fruit Ninja (I know, it's also on other systems)
Bubble Town 2
Tower Bloxx New York
I Dig It
Parachute Panic
Jigsaw Guru
Rise of Glory
Chicks'n'Vixens
Sketch Defence
Word Hunt
Word Tangle
Peg Jump
Frog Log
Solitaire (Offscreen Technologies version)
One game that seems interesting, but I don't understand, is Pocket God. If anyone knows how to play it; what the objective is, let me know.

MartyLK said:
Gang, now having all three popular major smartphone systems has allowed me to sample the gaming offerings they provide. It looks like WP7 provides the most fun and best games of all of them....simplistic and casual and high quality type games. There's a larger amount of more enjoyable games on WP7 than on iOS or Android.
I'm not a biased person and love all smartphone systems equally so please keep the rants and misunderstandings out . And am merely reporting what I'm experiencing. I'm driven to WP7 for the gaming enjoyment and spend more time playing games on it.
The current games I like and find very enjoyable for passing time are...not in ranked order:
ilomilo
Tiki Towers (I know, it's also on other systems)
iBlast Moki
Need for Speed: Undercover
Fruit Ninja (I know, it's also on other systems)
Bubble Town 2
Tower Bloxx New York
I Dig It
Parachute Panic
Jigsaw Guru
Rise of Glory
Chicks'n'Vixens
Sketch Defence
Word Hunt
Word Tangle
Peg Jump
Frog Log
Solitaire (Offscreen Technologies version)
One game that seems interesting, but I don't understand, is Pocket God. If anyone knows how to play it; what the objective is, let me know.
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Agreed... Pocket God is a strange one though... I mean it really plays out like just a bunch of ways to kill your little minions with a ton of mini--games involved. Really just a game for those who love achievements.

Casual maybe, but personally i disagree. some devices/platforms have the same game with more features. Take fruit ninja for example, it has multiplayer on another platform.

slighmd said:
Casual maybe, but personally i disagree. some devices/platforms have the same game with more features. Take fruit ninja for example, it has multiplayer on another platform.
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FruitNinja is one of the worst port games... Glitches and missing function.
The List of Great games should not miss The Harvest

ios has games like Dead Space 2 and Infinity Blade, android has multiplayer and FPS games, WP7 is full of iphone ports or games that are more expensive than other platforms, no real time MP - I dont see how its the superior gaming platform.

efjay said:
ios has games like Dead Space 2 and Infinity Blade, android has multiplayer and FPS games, WP7 is full of iphone ports or games that are more expensive than other platforms, no real time MP - I dont see how its the superior gaming platform.
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Nicely said.

Agree. Aside from the ilomilo (great game btw) and The Harvest (which i couldn't finish due to savegame crashes) most games really are more expensive ports of iOS and Android games. Dunno why xbox cheevos make 0.99c games like pocket god, fruit ninja, etc more expensive. Still, M$ needs to step it up. Currently i'm playing Real Racing 2, Pocket Legends and Dundef (cross platform online multiplayer iOS and android) which imho M$ should get for their platform

There are a lot of games I didn't include, which are no doubt excellent. But I didn't include them because I don't play them or find them casually and simplistically fun. There are similar or exact games on other systems, but I included them because they make up the entirety of the offerings that can be had on this system. When Angry Birds comes out for WP7, it also will be included in the "fun" factor of WP7 gaming.
WP7's own unique games are much better than anything comparative found on any other system.

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Agree. Aside from the ilomilo (great game btw) and The Harvest (which i couldn't finish due to savegame crashes) most games really are more expensive ports of iOS and Android games. Dunno why xbox cheevos make 0.99c games like pocket god, fruit ninja, etc more expensive. Still, M$ needs to step it up. Currently i'm playing Real Racing 2, Pocket Legends and Dundef (cross platform online multiplayer iOS and android) which imho M$ should get for their platform
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Right, MS should put some great gameloft games like gangstar, modern combat, nova, etc.. even my old nexus one has it but i cant play it since the multitouch sucks. Dead space is another example (xperia play will be having it).. im just glad i can play dead space on ipad.. i really love that game! pocket legends is boring IMO.

Ilomilo alone is the definition of what a cellphone game should be. It's something you can play in short or long intervals, it's perfect for a handheld device, the graphics are great, the controls are flawless, I could go on and on but what it comes down to is no other mobile game compares.

I'd say wp7 has the potential to be the best of the 3, but has a ways to go before that is the case. There are some excellent games, however.

Maybe when the nextgen devices become available, better games (or ports lol) will alsp come out. But until then, my wp7 stays in the box while i play on my iP

Even a Microsoft fanboy like me can't agree the the OP. WP7 is a joke compared to iOS. Sure it may be a matter of time but as of today calling it the best smartphone gaming platform is being delusional.

Also, by the time great games like Dead Space come out on WP7 (which is also more wishful thinking, and will most likely be another port of the iOS version IF it ever does come) even better games would have already rolled out on iOS and android. Fiinal Fantasy 3, the DS version has already been announced for the iOS, Dungeon Defenders 2nd Wave already demoed for Android. Also, check out Desert Winds for the Android. These alone would make people think twice about gaming on WP7

What is tying down phones is the lack of hardware controls. When the Playstation phone comes on Android it will raise the bar out of sight. Even if there were no new games, just the PS1 emulator, it would dominate any smartphone.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/sony-announces-playstation-suite/
And other Android phones will get some of the benefits.
Microsoft can't compete with this, but they can at least reduce the damage if they:
-Launch an XBox phone.
-Produce a standard bluetooth controller that be added to any Windows Phone.
Then they will have to rely on new content, but can they get the necessary market share among gamers?
They are in a tough spot because they are competing against players (Nintendo, Sony) that have experience with portable gaming and existing content that can be used immediately.
Better position than Apple though.

I found another one called Krashlander. This is the pure, simplistic type, fun that really makes WP7 the best there is for smartphone gaming. Of course, the WP7-only games like ilomilo and others help it be the best, too. Of the 3 major smartphone systems, WP7 happens to be produced by the world's leading gaming company and it already, at this early age, shows.