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Edit: See Post #7 for the solution!
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[REQ] Custom ROM without HTC volume control
Hello,
Does anyone have the time or inclination to make a ROM without the volume control? I only ask because I've so far found no way of disabling the program.
Basically I've discovered that the standard WM dialer is more responsive and more intuitive than the Diamond one while using about 8MB less memory. The problem is, the in-call volume won't work unless the HTCVolumeControl can be disabled or removed.
I'm going to follow up this request with a noob question - how easy is it to take an existing cooked ROM and remove applications?
Many thanks
Cooking a ROM without Volume control is easy. Just remove the DIAMOND Volume Control from your kitchen.
Many thanks for the reply! I don't currently have a kitchen.
If I were to find a chef who is willing to let others alter their work, how long would it take a novice to achieve?
Try VIC's ROM for example. Also take a look at: Cooking Guides for Ultimate Noobs.
Thanks again. I've had a look at VIC's ROM, looks good. I'll have a look at that guide when I have some spare time.
How much time would you guess it would take to do the job? I'm a complete noob but fairly quick learner.
Isn't there an option to disable this in one of the tweak progs, either schaps adv. config or diamond tweak, I'm sure one of the two can do this.
Davey101 said:
Hello,
Does anyone have the time or inclination to make a ROM without the volume control?
Many thanks
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What about a .cab that can remove it ? Only if you like it, I have attached it, and it WORKS
Good luck ^^
uniqueboy said:
Isn't there an option to disable this in one of the tweak progs, either schaps adv. config or diamond tweak, I'm sure one of the two can do this.
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This option does exist in Diamond Tweak but it doesn't work.
I've searched the forum and found a manual method that involves stopping a service called HTCVolume, however that service doesn't appear to exist in the latest ROMs. HTC must have changed something which would also explain Diamond Tweak not working.
danny_and_2 said:
What about a .cab that can remove it ? Only if you like it, I have attached it, and it WORKS
Good luck ^^
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Fantastic, thanks! I will try it later today!
Davey101 said:
This option does exist in Diamond Tweak but it doesn't work.
I've searched the forum and found a manual method that involves stopping a service called HTCVolume, however that service doesn't appear to exist in the latest ROMs. HTC must have changed something which would also explain Diamond Tweak not working.
Fantastic, thanks! I will try it later today!
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I have just tested it, and it works. But you said 8mb ram will be free ? I don't agree on that point. :/
It works, thanks!
danny_and_2 said:
I have just tested it, and it works. But you said 8mb ram will be free ? I don't agree on that point. :/
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For me, the 8MB free came when using the standard WM dialer rather than the HTC one. It's not as pretty but it does match my altered windows colour scheme. I'd rather have a phone that works properly than one that just looks nice - which is why I'm not using TouchFlo 3D either.
I would guess I'm getting an additional 1 or 2 MB with the volume control also gone.
Davey101 said:
It works, thanks!
For me, the 8MB free came when using the standard WM dialer rather than the HTC one. It's not as pretty but it does match my altered windows colour scheme. I'd rather have a phone that works properly than one that just looks nice - which is why I'm not using TouchFlo 3D either.
I would guess I'm getting an additional 1 or 2 MB with the volume control also gone.
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Oh, I can see that now .. Anyway, that's why I have customized mine, as hell ..
On a fresh boot I get 42%, with orginal touchflo 3d. But anyway, glad I could help you
It came back after a soft reset! What does the cab do?
Cheers
Davey101 said:
It came back after a soft reset! What does the cab do?
Cheers
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Strange, it's overwrite the existing files in the windows dic. I will try working some thing out..
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It works fine here, even with a soft reset.. :S
Thanks for your help!
Just remembered, I also ran a cleanup with SKTools, I suppose it is possible that caused it to revert. I'll have a play and see if I can recreate.
Davey101 said:
Thanks for your help!
Just remembered, I also ran a cleanup with SKTools, I suppose it is possible that caused it to revert. I'll have a play and see if I can recreate.
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No problem, hope you get it to work again
danny_and_2 said:
What about a .cab that can remove it ? Only if you like it, I have attached it, and it WORKS
Good luck ^^
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thanks! this has been driving me nuts! and nearly all the roms have htc volume built in for whatever reason
flashed my phone about 8 times in the last hour trying to find one without it built in and all my apps working
danny_and_2 said:
What about a .cab that can remove it ? Only if you like it, I have attached it, and it WORKS
Good luck ^^
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Seems the DLL?? messes up the font of the USB PopUp and SIP Selection screen Will try to cook a ROM without the VolumeControl to see if you can disable it without causing trouble to the fonts on the device..
I'm already using a ROM without the HTC Volume Control, Panosha Simple 1.1, so I don't need this cab anymore. It was invaluable before I switched ROMs!
I can confirm that the SIP selection text is already broken, without installing this cab. HTC must have relied on their dialer dll for the fonts on these other menu screens.
Davey101 said:
I'm already using a ROM without the HTC Volume Control, Panosha Simple 1.1, so I don't need this cab anymore. It was invaluable before I switched ROMs!
I can confirm that the SIP selection text is already broken, without installing this cab. HTC must have relied on their dialer dll for the fonts on these other menu screens.
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maybe its time for me to try that rom!
overnight the htc volume reappeared...although was all blank, reinstalling the cab fixed it, still wierd tho
stead said:
maybe its time for me to try that rom!
overnight the htc volume reappeared...although was all blank, reinstalling the cab fixed it, still wierd tho
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Not had that problem, except for the one time mentioned above which was caused by SKTools.
It's a very plain ROM - no Manila, Opera or even MMS! However, it suited my needs and I was able to track down all of the cabs I needed eventually.
Ok, I decided to write new thread because most of the rom makers I pm to didn't answer me at all. Some kind of secrets or whatever. I think we should help each other to improve our ROM's but maybe I'm wrong.
I have some issues in my owe ROM which I can't really fix. Maybe someone will know the solution
1. Some ROM makers wrote in their changelogs that now CommMgr is really closing without being on the process list all the time? How?
2. I'm using EZinput keyboard 2.0.33633 full qwerty and two keyboards should be available: full qwerty and phone keyboard. Only the first one is present in the system (the second one now is standard MS keyboard instead of phone keyboard 2.0 EZinput). Why? I changed the EXT package many times to make sure it's ok and all the time the same issue...
3. Is there a working method to change system rings to wav? Every time I do it then they doesn't work. Do I have to change also some registry value?
4. Windows Media Player dosen't play any videos. I changed mHub and mHubVO into some other versions but still no efect. What else could be the reason?
That's all what I'd love to know to make my ROM better
Thanks in advice!
Ok, I see that non of the grate, admired here rom makers are going to help me. Sweet. Anyway... I made a little step ahead with problem no2.
I know how to manually switch between those keyboards using registry entries [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\ezsip]
CurrentSIP set to a00 is Phone Keypad and d00 for fullQWERTY. But still it's impossible to change it in menu (WM6.5 21725)
That's all I want to share with, maybe it will help someone. Should I expect some respond? I don't think so :]
michal_banszel said:
Ok, I see that non of the grate, admired here rom makers are going to help me. Sweet. Anyway... I made a little step ahead with problem no2.
I know how to manually switch between those keyboards using registry entries [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\ezsip]
CurrentSIP set to a00 is Phone Keypad and d00 for fullQWERTY. But still it's impossible to change it in menu (WM6.5 21725)
That's all I want to share with, maybe it will help someone. Should I expect some respond? I don't think so :]
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Dude, about the comm manager, I don't know which version of comm manager are u using. But I got my comm manager working good n closing when clicked on x button. All I can say is don't use any new version like 2.8 or topaz comm manager. Use the 2.7.1.4 version. It's OG diamond comm manager n works nice. I'm using the same version.
Thanks buddy Actually I'm using 2.8.1. I will switch to 2.7.1.4 as u said.
The keyboard is still my biggest problem. I wonder what's wrong that I cannot switch between Full qwerty and phone keypad in the sip menu bar.
michal_banszel said:
Thanks buddy Actually I'm using 2.8.1. I will switch to 2.7.1.4 as u said.
The keyboard is still my biggest problem. I wonder what's wrong that I cannot switch between Full qwerty and phone keypad in the sip menu bar.
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Did u try the GEN Y sip menu..??
I heard someone there saying that if we have the touchflo installed, then only we can change between the phone pad n qwerty board. But touchflo brings some more diff probs elsewhere.
Surprising issue this.. Coz it works perfectly fine with ezinput 1.
My touchflo is completly deleted. All registry entries and app. because in WM6.5 it's totally useless.'
Yes, it is surprising. I checked registry entries and everything seems to be fine... but it's not
michal_banszel said:
My touchflo is completly deleted. All registry entries and app. because in WM6.5 it's totally useless.'
Yes, it is surprising. I checked registry entries and everything seems to be fine... but it's not
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do u have a package of touchflo..?? If not, I'll mail it to you. Try to import it n see if it works. I had in the previous build of this kitchen.
Yes, I have. Ok, I'll try to cook it with TouchFlo but how is touchflo connected with availability to change keyboard from context menu?
michal_banszel said:
Yes, I have. Ok, I'll try to cook it with TouchFlo but how is touchflo connected with availability to change keyboard from context menu?
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i dont know..check gen y thread..u will definitely get moe help there. its surely been talked about in that thread.
I think I know the answer. Ability to change between keyboards wouldn't work on wm6.5 without HTC menuenhancement.
michal_banszel said:
I think I know the answer. Ability to change between keyboards wouldn't work on wm6.5 without HTC menuenhancement.
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nope its not only that, u definitly need the touchflo package, but that package conlicts with wm 6.5
the only thing we can do is wait for HTC to bring out its first WM 6.5 rom for diamond2, then we can take the new touchflo or ezinput package from that rom
about the windows media player issue, make sure u have the DShow OEM in your rom
yozgatg said:
nope its not only that, u definitly need the
about the windows media player issue, make sure u have the DShow OEM in your rom
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I do have it - DShow_2_0_19141126_0 - or maybe there is some newer? Or older working better?
michal_banszel said:
I do have it - DShow_2_0_19141126_0 - or maybe there is some newer? Or older working better?
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there a slight newer one in my kitchen, here are the oems i use for multimedia:
- DShow_2_00_19143426_0
- mHub_6_57_080529_E0
- mHubVO_1_75_090515_X0
u should also check the following drivers in OEMDrivers:
- qtv.dll
- qtv_mp4_decoder.dll
try replacing those drivers
Can you please share with all those files? Please
BTW which ConcurrenceMGR are u using? 1_5_19113219_0000?
michal_banszel said:
Can you please share with all those files? Please
BTW which ConcurrenceMGR are u using? 1_5_19113219_0000?
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just check the link in my signature, i released the full kitchen of my rom
Thanks man!
Ok, it's me again
And again some damn issues in my kitchen
For last two days I was looking for the source of why my Face down mute ring stopped working. In registry everything is fine. Exept of registry, is there any dll library or something responsible for that? Also when I'm in windows file explorere and want to copy the file from IS to main memory (I do tap on "Copy")and then tap on the menu to choose the location then it crashed.
Any ideas for soulution those two problems?
PS. One more thing I forgot... I used to have my clock and calendar to set up automaticly the date and time after HR but now it seems to be gone... Is it up to network type currently using? GPRS/3G? Or maybe some registry value?
michal_banszel said:
Ok, it's me again
And again some damn issues in my kitchen
For last two days I was looking for the source of why my Face down mute ring stopped working. In registry everything is fine. Exept of registry, is there any dll library or something responsible for that? Also when I'm in windows file explorere and want to copy the file from IS to main memory (I do tap on "Copy")and then tap on the menu to choose the location then it crashed.
Any ideas for soulution those two problems?
PS. One more thing I forgot... I used to have my clock and calendar to set up automaticly the date and time after HR but now it seems to be gone... Is it up to network type currently using? GPRS/3G? Or maybe some registry value?
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Hey Michal,
found something that may help with the face down mute issue
pranavsethi said:
Hi,
Does mute on face down work?
Its not working on mine TD and would be glad if someone can get me to know how to get it working.
Even Checked HKLM, and there is no entry in Phone sector for Face down mute.
Kindly advise.
.............................
Pranav
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cednicek said:
Try copy reg code from windows mobile 6.1, where it worked... I think i could work.
CODE: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PHONE and change FaceDownMuteRing to 0 (default is 1)
Anybody has this problem?
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Hope this helps
Thanks dude but it doesn't work. I was trying with both, 0 and 1 to make sure but still no effect. Friend of mine checked some others 6.5 ROM's and it seems that it doesn't work in any of them.
I found out that automatic time and date set works only if 3G/SHDPA network is available. So this question is out of date.
If anyone find the solution with face down mute ring then please let me know.
Another issue that I was hoping to solve is contact list popping up every time after SR. So in titanium softkeys registry I changed SK1URL into HTCActionScreen. And now... HTCActionScreen popping up every time after SR. Any solution for that?
Do images rotate on turning the device without opening the keyboard? like on HD or Diamond? Because in my TP2, images do not rotate on turning the device as it is supposed to due to g-sensor .... isn't it? Does it have to be activated somehow or is it not possible in TP2 ... which will be strange.
dr_s said:
Do images rotate on turning the device without opening the keyboard? like on HD or Diamond? Because in my TP2, images do not rotate on turning the device as it is supposed to due to g-sensor .... isn't it? Does it have to be activated somehow or is it not possible in TP2 ... which will be strange.
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by default rotation with gyro does not work on Rhodium.
You can use gyrator2 if you wish to enable this functionality.
Cheers,
Beasty
I have the same problem. Screen rotates in opera, but not in Album.
same here, and gyrator is not the perfectly program for this... its slow, and it isn't integrated with WM after install. its just a stand-alone app what runs as the same way as other programs (you can also close it by taskmanager).
Also taksmanager doenst close programs by clicking [X] ?? (even when i select it)...
Attached regisry that will enable a lot of programs in G-sensor.
You also can edit by notepad to remove program that you are not like.
Well found! Very Handy
Thanks
Joseng said:
Attached regisry that will enable a lot of programs in G-sensor.
You also can edit by notepad to remove program that you are not like.
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I understand this works great. few questions:
Doesn't it slow the device?
What programs do you suggest to be rotating without the screen sliding out and what programs do you think shouldn't flip to landscape because it gets annoying?
Joseng said:
Attached regisry that will enable a lot of programs in G-sensor.
You also can edit by notepad to remove program that you are not like.
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thanks. great find. but same question as above.
Why HTC has not made it default for the album?
dr_s said:
thanks. great find. but same question as above.
Why HTC has not made it default for the album?
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The same question could be applied to many things HTC have done with the Rom on the Rhodium.
At the end of the day, do what we do best here, add the functionality that you want, then fix any problems that occur afterwards.
I haven't noticed any adverse affects using gyrator, as yet anyway.
Cheers,
Beasty
does anybody by any chance have the window class of sygic mobile drive (previously mcguider)??
Joseng said:
Attached regisry that will enable a lot of programs in G-sensor.
You also can edit by notepad to remove program that you are not like.
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how do you add this file to the reg for us newbs please
thanks for any help
Doesn't it automatically display the picture at the maximum size? Meaning if it is a landscape picture it displays it in landscape and if it is a portrait picture it displays it in portrait? I actually prefer the way it is done in the new album which I am running on my FUZE.
combat goofwing said:
how do you add this file to the reg for us newbs please
thanks for any help
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Guide for newbies here
http://htctouchpro2.wordpress.com/2009/06/21/htc-touch-pro2-hacks-–-part-2-–-g-sensor-everything/
thanks thats why i love this site, you get what you think is a great phone and they just help you make it even better
and to think i thought my viewty was the muts nuts
Could someone help me out with the TomTom reg key? I get the modulename bit right, just point it to tomtomnavigator.exe. Don't really understand the whitelist key. What should the value be for Tomtom?
Thanks.
EDIT: Just found it in the topaz section. For anyone wlse who needs to know, it is "MunichWinClass" for some reason. Thanks to infoman68 for that.
Awsome thread I downloaded and installed the gyrator2, but I cannot figure out what plugin/program to grab from microsoft to install that dotnet 3.5 on the phone to get gyrator to work. can someone please point me to the correct file?
thanks.
to anyone else wishing to add an app to HTCs GSensor list in the reg and not knowing the window title or class...
download Gyrator2, install and run. Add a new event. Choose learn. Take stylus out. Make active the window you need the name of. Insert stylus. There! Gyrator has just told ya what ya need to know... Uninstall gyrator and add what it told ya to the reg...
nice post dude...
i am still trying to get the gyrator to work on my pro2.
did you also have issues with the dotnet thing?
Hello, brilliant suggestion from bigjezza. Myself I'm trying to get Microsoft Reader to react to my phone's gyrations. However when I bring up Gyrator 2 the MS Reader app is not listed. Actually it never came up in my program-list in the first place even though it did install and runs perfectly. Had to stick a shortcut in the Windows/Start-menu.
Any suggestion on how to get MsReader onto Garator's list, or does anyone know what the relevant data is for MsReader just like that?
Many thanks/McHan
Joseng said:
Attached regisry that will enable a lot of programs in G-sensor.
You also can edit by notepad to remove program that you are not like.
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I did install the .reg, then looked my self the new strings in the registry and everything looked OK, but the images on Album still do not respond to device rotation... Any other solution? Or it is need to activate or deactivate something else?
regards,
Tyrone
hey guys. i was wondering if anyone knows of a file or registry hack to bypass the ringtone limit on the tilt 2? thanks so much for the help .
limit?
what limit?
Paul-E said:
what limit?
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FileSizeLimit
How odd that I asked almost the exact same question 2 hrs earlier
Anyone solve ringtone file size limit? Or I need a good pager solution!
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I really need to be able to play an extended ringtone and it seems the Blackjack II had a registry tweak to handle this. That tweak doesn't work on our TP2s tho.
I am honestly surprised more folks haven't inquired about this.
do a search on this forum for "NoRingToneLimit" - it is .cab file and it works.
I searched the forum and did not find any hits, so I did an advanced search which took me to the archives.
There is a reference to a fix for 6.1:
mikefordmustang.com/downloads/NoRingtoneLimit.cab
Can anyone confirm this works for 6.5?
Found this as well but I haven't tried it personally. Seems easy enough to test though if you want to give it a go.
- Go into HKEY_Current User > ControlPanel > Sounds
- Delete the key of FileSizeLimit
- Done, You should now be able to set any MP3 as your ringtone.
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That is the same tweak I found on a google search that was said to work for the Blackjack II. There is no such entry for WM 6.5 on my gsm TP2.
I did add the entry, using a larger value, and it did not work for me.
camell0ndosequis said:
I searched the forum and did not find any hits, so I did an advanced search which took me to the archives.
There is a reference to a fix for 6.1:
mikefordmustang.com/downloads/NoRingtoneLimit.cab
Can anyone confirm this works for 6.5?
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I tested this on my gsm TP2 on WM 6.5 and does not work. It will only play 20 seconds of a lengthy mp3 file on local memory. Still looking for a tweak/fix!!
camell0ndosequis said:
That is the same tweak I found on a google search that was said to work for the Blackjack II. There is no such entry for WM 6.5 on my gsm TP2.
I did add the entry, using a larger value, and it did not work for me.
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You might have already tried this, but did you search your registry to see if that key existed in some other location maybe? I have 6.1 or I'd go look myself...
sirphunkee said:
You might have already tried this, but did you search your registry to see if that key existed in some other location maybe? I have 6.1 or I'd go look myself...
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You know, I did do a search, but it just occurred to me that I searched for files, not strings within the registry.
I am going to do a search on both FileSizeLimit and NoRingToneLimit as strings and see what it comes up with. Total Commander is proving to be invaluable right about now!
camell0ndosequis said:
You know, I did do a search, but it just occurred to me that I searched for files, not strings within the registry.
I am going to do a search on both FileSizeLimit and NoRingToneLimit as strings and see what it comes up with. Total Commander is proving to be invaluable right about now!
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I do like TC and can't deny its swissarmyknife-like utility, but for when I just want to zip around in the registry, I like the look/feel of PHM_regedit better.
thx for the tip! i'll look into that ..
Use ceregeditor and browse your phone registry form your computer making it 100 times easier.
so I grabbed ceregeditor and yes indeed, it makes it sooo much easier to search/edit registry entries.
so ... my findings:
Installing NoRingtoneLimit.cab did put an entry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds:FileSizeLimit
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The default Value Data was set to 0 .. this did not work.
I increased the value to a high # .. i saw 10487200 as a possible value when I found the blackjack ii tweaks .. that too did not work.
Im guessing everything Im doing works just fine for WM 6.1 .. but nobody has figured out why it doesnt for 6.5. I hope there are others out there with more insight into this. I really dont want to go back to my old phone when I go OnCall this weekend!
camell0ndosequis said:
I searched the forum and did not find any hits, so I did an advanced search which took me to the archives.
There is a reference to a fix for 6.1:
mikefordmustang.com/downloads/NoRingtoneLimit.cab
Can anyone confirm this works for 6.5?
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It works on my AT&T Tilt 2 with 6.5 - Have Hallelujah Chorus (eleven minutes) as a ringtone.
well now i'm bummed even more!
i am going to uninstall the .cab .. reset .. and then re-install .. and reset to see what happens.
iv'e tried different things to come up with a solution and nothing appears to be taking: repeat notifications, filesizelimit, notificationlayoutnew.dll ... i get zilch on each!
wow .. 11mins!
well i am just so frickin' dissapointed in this thing now. i just cant fathom as to why a GSM model would be that much different than an ATT Tilt2.
I guess perhaps using one of the many available ROMs on this site could help? Any advice, anyone?
And that made all the difference!
It finally works!
I knew there had to be something weird about my setup that was causing this not to work for me. I was timing the length of the ringtone and while the longest was at 20 seconds, there were times when it was a little as 10.
I started thinking that perhaps something was intercepting or disturbing the process that killed the ringtone. I never thought to uncheck DISPLAY MESSAGE ON SCREEN.
This is what made the difference. Once the txt message screen timed out and disappeared, the ringtone died as well. Unchecking it allowed the ringtone/vibration to play fully. WHEW! I swear, of all the things to check last ... when will I ever learn!
camell0ndosequis said:
It finally works!
I knew there had to be something weird about my setup that was causing this not to work for me. I was timing the length of the ringtone and while the longest was at 20 seconds, there were times when it was a little as 10.
I started thinking that perhaps something was intercepting or disturbing the process that killed the ringtone. I never thought to uncheck DISPLAY MESSAGE ON SCREEN.
This is what made the difference. Once the txt message screen timed out and disappeared, the ringtone died as well. Unchecking it allowed the ringtone/vibration to play fully. WHEW! I swear, of all the things to check last ... when will I ever learn!
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Hahaha congrats! I was trying to figure out what the heck could still be keeping you from playing them properly, and I honestly wouldn't have thought of that either! I bet this will lead to a lot of "a-HA!"s in RhodiumTown tonight! lol
Goodnight people ...
I have a question for you:
Because I hate the touchscreen keyboard, I wanted to know if there was a way to prevent it being opened automatically!
Let me explain .. when I write a new text message, a new mail, when I use opera but when I select any text box, it automatically opens the touchscreen keyboard!
can prevent this thing from happening?
I only use the HW keyboard ... and would prevent the automatic opening of the touchscreen keyboard!
I dug into the registry, more precisely here:
[HKLM \ Software \ Tegic \ eT9]
and all subfolders below ... I could not find anything about it!
How can I do?
Thanx!!!
Try this:
Code:
[I]HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\TurnOffAutoDeploy[/I] = 1
[I]HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange[/I] = 0
[I]HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Disable Auto SIP[/I] =1 (Note the space in "Internet Explorer"; there's a different directory without the space)
I found these online, so I don't know if they'll work.
Actually, I think only the second tweak ('AllowChange') is necessary. I remember trying it before. You have to know, however, that it will (should) completely disable the virtual keyboard; you can only launch the SIP by changing the value back to '1'.
yeah i used to turn it off with a tweak program. turning off auto works most places but not in opera. however later builds of opera wont show the onscreen keyboard if the physical is kicked out.
thanks for explanation ... really helpful, but my intention was not to completely disable the keypad, but only prevent it opened automatically!
I don't like the on-screen keyboard popping up all the time either. So I took an interest in this thread. I found that of the suggested registry changes mentioned above, the oly one I needed to impliment was this one:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\TurnOffAutoDeploy = 1
This seems to keep the on-screen keyboard from popping up on its own, but still allows me to access the keyboard when I need it.
Hopes this is helpful...
sumflipnol: Thanks for the info!
ciko84xp said:
thanks for explanation ... really helpful, but my intention was not to completely disable the keypad, but only prevent it opened automatically!
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Whoops! Well, you did say in your first post, "I only use the HW keyboard." Sorry about that.
Maybe you should try ScratchyPDX's route:
ScratchyPDX said:
I don't like the on-screen keyboard popping up all the time either. So I took an interest in this thread. I found that of the suggested registry changes mentioned above, the oly one I needed to impliment was this one:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\TurnOffAutoDeploy = 1
This seems to keep the on-screen keyboard from popping up on its own, but still allows me to access the keyboard when I need it.
Hopes this is helpful...
sumflipnol: Thanks for the info!
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You're welcome!
It's strange, however, that I have that same exact reg tweak, but my virtual keyboard still pops up on its own (using the ROM in my sig).
I guess, in this situation, YMMV!
ciko84xp said:
thanks for explanation ... really helpful, but my intention was not to completely disable the keypad, but only prevent it opened automatically!
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its not possible to completely disable the onscreen keyboard. this is only to disable automatic deploy. keep in mind theres alot of places it will popup weather you like it or not.
The Jack of Clubs said:
its not possible to completely disable the onscreen keyboard. this is only to disable automatic deploy. keep in mind theres alot of places it will popup weather you like it or not.
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I tried one of the tweaks I listed a few months ago. I think the "AllowChange" tweak disables the launch (auto and manual) of the virtual keyboard.
I remember helping someone on an EnergyROM thread about this same topic. He wanted to completely disable the virtual keyboard, so he was happy with the tweak.
ScratchyPDX said:
I don't like the on-screen keyboard popping up all the time either. So I took an interest in this thread. I found that of the suggested registry changes mentioned above, the oly one I needed to impliment was this one:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\TurnOffAutoDeploy = 1
This seems to keep the on-screen keyboard from popping up on its own, but still allows me to access the keyboard when I need it.
Hopes this is helpful...
sumflipnol: Thanks for the info!
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unfortunately I can not find it in the register of my PDA!!!
I have only [HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange = 0]!!!
The Jack of Clubs said:
its not possible to completely disable the onscreen keyboard. this is only to disable automatic deploy. keep in mind theres alot of places it will popup weather you like it or not.
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With this tweak [HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange = 0]!!! the problem is solved, because the touch pad is completly powered off!!!
The only one problem, is the impossibility of opening the touch pad when I want without remod this register key and make a SR!!!
sumflipnol said:
I tried one of the tweaks I listed a few months ago. I think the "AllowChange" tweak disables the launch (auto and manual) of the virtual keyboard.
I remember helping someone on an EnergyROM thread about this same topic. He wanted to completely disable the virtual keyboard, so he was happy with the tweak.
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This Tweak was really useful because I use the touchscreen keyboard 2 times a month! Thanx to you!!!
ciko84xp said:
unfortunately I can not find it in the register of my PDA!!!
I have only [HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange = 0]!!!
With this tweak [HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange = 0]!!! the problem is solved, because the touch pad is completly powered off!!!
The only one problem, is the impossibility of opening the touch pad when I want without remod this register key and make a SR!!!
This Tweak was really useful because I use the touchscreen keyboard 2 times a month! Thanx to you!!!
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You could just add a DWORD for the "TurnOffAutoDeploy" key. That should suffice.
You're welcome for the tweak, but I understand the problem of having to remod the registry and soft reset when you need it. Maybe you could push for an app that can "switch" the registry key for you without a soft reset?
sumflipnol said:
You could just add a DWORD for the "TurnOffAutoDeploy" key. That should suffice.
You're welcome for the tweak, but I understand the problem of having to remod the registry and soft reset when you need it. Maybe you could push for an app that can "switch" the registry key for you without a soft reset?
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You're right... I never thought to create the DWORD!
I try now... and then I post the result!
PS: I can create an app that modifies the registry to enable and disable the touchpad, but I think it is impossible to avoid the SR, because without it, the touchpad still does not work even after I edit the registry, because this type of change requires necessarily an SR to become effective.
I've tried to add manually the DWORD "TurnOffAutoDeploy=1", but the problem isn't solved!!!
PS: I can create 2 different CAB... 1 for "Powering ON" and 1 for "Powering Off" the Touchpad... because i'm not a programmer, and i haven't the necessary competence to create an application in c++!
The only one problem, is that i don't know how to avoid the SR necessary to make active the change!
If I find a way to solve the SR problem, i have solved my touchpad problem!
ScratchyPDX said:
I don't like the on-screen keyboard popping up all the time either. So I took an interest in this thread. I found that of the suggested registry changes mentioned above, the oly one I needed to impliment was this one:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\TurnOffAutoDeploy = 1
This seems to keep the on-screen keyboard from popping up on its own, but still allows me to access the keyboard when I need it.
Hopes this is helpful...
sumflipnol: Thanks for the info!
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Update: After using my phone this weekend with the above tweek applied, I found that the KB still pops up occasionally, but less often than before. For me this is acceptable. You mileage may vary.
ScratchyPDX said:
Update: After using my phone this weekend with the above tweek applied, I found that the KB still pops up occasionally, but less often than before. For me this is acceptable. You mileage may vary.
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Can you post here the list of the various DWORD that you have in SIP folder of your registry?
I think that you have other settings that I haven't....!
ciko84xp said:
Can you post here the list of the various DWORD that you have in SIP folder of your registry?
I think that you have other settings that I haven't....!
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Like I said in post6, I have that DWORD in my registry, but it does still pop up. As a matter of fact, the only time it doesn't pop up is when I try to send an SMS!
Mobilnaut SYM
ciko84xp said:
Because I hate the touchscreen keyboard, I wanted to know if there was a way to prevent it being opened automatically!
Let me explain .. when I write a new text message, a new mail, when I use opera but when I select any text box, it automatically opens the touchscreen keyboard!
can prevent this thing from happening?
I only use the HW keyboard ... and would prevent the automatic opening of the touchscreen keyboard!
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You can try Mobilnaut SYM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459253).
When Mobilnaut SYM is activated, the SIP does not pop up when the keyboard is open.
for my it work with the "Deploy" reg kack. the "allow" one killed it all toghether. I't wouldn't apear, even if i click it.
I have a diferente problem now. I'm Portuguese, I need special char "ç" a lot. my harware keyboard doesn't have that. so I have to pop up the SIP every time just for that one.
Can someaone develop a small app i can link to a hardware button, that all it does is type "ç"?
Thank you!
In this thread you might find the answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9242765#poststop
There is a registry edit that worked just fine on my T-Mobile HTC HD2, so you might want to check it out.