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I'm liking Windows Mobile "XDA Live"
as the name in honor of all XDA-Dev has done for us.
I'll be keeping this post updated with progress/news.
Understand that I can not release this Rom without the approval of my source, they need to protect their livelihood. The second I'm given the go ahead, the floodgate with open but until then I simply can't unless I want to burn a good source who put a lot of trust in me.
My primary goal is to get an uncluttered Rom that is useful from the start, think Faria-lite..
If everyone is good and doesn't keep me from getting this done, I will release the scripts that I am using to build & rebuild this rom easily so that each of you can confidently do exactly as I am. I can release the scripts maybe this weekend regardless of the status of the Rom because they are independent of the Rom you are cooking.
Quick FAQ:
Q: Can we get a "Clean" version of the Rom.
A: When released there will be several packages:
"Clean OS" Rom with only HTC-X and Comm Button Toggle Vibrate Fix integrated.
"Hit the Ground Running" Rom with several useful apps embedded (you will be able to disable everything that is embedded) and operator Customizations within easy reach.
Hermes Rom Cookbook, which will include the scripts and tools I am using to do this and instructions on how to apply these to any Hermes Rom.
.nb file only releases for those who want to only swap out the OS ('cause we like our splash screens)
Q: Will WMXL (Windows Mobile XDA Live) fix my corrupted radio bootloader or otherwise bricked Hermes?
A: If the other tools here can't do it then don't bet the farm on WMXL doing it. The Flashing tools are still the same, no magic pill here.
Q: Can you Add XXXX or why not use ZZZZ instead of the App you chose.
A: I have been selective of the apps I am embedding. They may not always be the best at what they do but they are easy to use and small. I will not install 5 different apps with the same function. By having one or two apps you will use embedded you will save plenty of Program Memory to be able to comfortably install the Task Manager, MP3 player or Coffee Temp Monitor of your liking.
Q: Kyphur you are such a Guru, how can I be like you?
A: Remember that my head is in the clouds on this one only because I'm standing on the shoulders' of giants. This project owes it's very existence to many other contributers here and they deserve as much if not more of the cudos than I do. The is a team effort, please support everyone who made this possible. (See my post here). I have been a member her for only 15 months give or take but I have spent more time reading than doing or posting.
Q: If you embed a program into the Rom how can I remove it (to save memory).
A: You can't remove file that are in the Rom. You can remove the Shortcuts to the programs. Again I will repeat that programs in the Rom do not consume any memory. If you don't want the program simply ignore it and it will not harm you.
Q: I have more questions...
A: Read the thread.
Current Status:
I have removed the list ofToday (.tsk) Themes for this Rom. Click here for Images of all the Themes I have collected. I've decided that instead of embedding them all, I will remove all but the default Crossbow Theme and maybe create a custom WMXL (Windows Mobile XDA Live) Theme.
The rest of the collection will be packaged together so everyne can pick and choose their themes. If we figure out how to create a custom Ext_Rom.nd then I will put them there along with Carrier Data & MMS Settings.
I have integrated the following Applications:
Dictionary Editor
HTweakC v2.1
MS Hearts for PPC
PHM Registry Editor ** Will not be replaced by Total Commander...
SMS Backup
StartClean
VJCandelaLite (Flashlight)
I know everyone has their own list of apps they'd like to see but I have chosed these because they are small, simple to use and ADD functionality to the Rom.
I have integrated the following Registry Fixes:
By default only the Date Plugin is enabled (and it is set to a single line).
The Today Screen says "XDA Live" and the about screen shows " - XDA" after the OS Build Number.
Pressing & Holding the Comm Button toggles the between Vibrate & Normal.
PDAViet Memory Leak Fix is Applied.
Disabled the warning for Unsigned Applications (Application Lock)
Misc:
I have added two "Classic RingTones, (OldPhone-US.wma and OldPhone-UK.wav) for those of us who want to get away from the music and chirping Ringers.
I have removed all carrier customizations, no need to soft reset to avoid customization!
Current Known Issues:
The only real issue is that I am bound by a promise to my source to not distribute this Rom until the Carrier releases it or I can get ALL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION removed from it. trust me, I am working on it but there is absolutely no room for errors. Ironically the Rom seems more stable since I've modified it than it was when I received it.
Goals to work on:
Embed TCPMP v0.71RC and Codex Files.
Dropped or moved to low priority:
Voice Command Abandoned... It was proving too troublesome and there are too many reasons (language and dialing rule differences) to not embed it.
Dropped embedding a replacement Calculator, two many personal preferences, they are all lightweight and we can each add our fav later.
As for adjusting how the memory is used, if someone knows how to do that I'm all ears but if it requires shifting things in the image and hex editing it then I think we might hit the NAND Block Issue again.
BTW, this truly is a group effort.
Without pof & team unlocking I never would have even gone looking for the base Rom.
aChef by aklok_hk is doing the heavy lifting.
Sleuth, ShogunMark, Faria ViJay555, Bepe, Maimach have all been instrumental either directly or indirectly in this project.
Des and the SSPL was another step that got me to this point.
Of course there are all of the guys who have been doing this before I bought my first PPC Phone, they blazed the trail I simply walk behind them.
Finally, I can't forget my unnamed source. They took a big change passing this along to me. Without that trust I'd be cooking AKU 3.3 right now.
piopawlu said:
Hmm, but what you need these themes for? I guess it would be cool if there was no unnecessary stuff you can always download later.
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Today themes are small, I would like to include the HTC Standard as well as Carrier Themes for at least the major carriers just as a way to allow us to brand this Rom without having to use any of our storage memory.
Initial Rom will not have any added apps, just clean & stable though I might embed The Hermes Tweaker.
This will be great. I am all for a minimal clean rom. No Addons just crossbow. HTC is fine for me. Just my opinion.
Can't wait.
Thanks
xultar said:
Give it a code name...something cool like L-Cars 8525!!!!
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mother_of_all_Hermes_roms.rar???
I think you should post with a boot screen dedicated to the legal department @ M$.
-mix
Plans to release...
First I will confirm that this IS NOT an AKU 3.3 Rom.
I have successfully removed most of the identifying info that could lead back to my source (I believe).
Now I'm adding a few things back in like the Press & Hold Comm button for Vibrate Toggle Fix, Today Themes for Carriers and my favorite Ringtone (OldPhone.wma).
I am waiting for a response from my source regarding the info I've cleaned out (I want their approval before I share as I don't want to burn my source).
I hope that this will all happen in less than 1 week.
kyphur said:
First I will confirm that this IS NOT an AKU 3.3 Rom.
I have successfully removed most of the identifying info that could lead back to my source (I believe).
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now you got me interested
kyphur said:
How about "XDA-Lives" WMx Rom!!!!
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About 10 minutes in photoshop and a few pictures from google.... a start on a boot screen.
-mix
mixmaven said:
About 10 minutes in photoshop and a few pictures from google.... a start on a boot screen.
-mix
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AHHH! But aren't we getting ahead of ourselves? I see you have WM6 on that pic. What if he's acutally ported Linux to it? Uhhh... wait a second, nevermind.
Nice, I suspect this will be a BIG relase, nice work!
now that people are cooking up some ROMs now, maybe someone can make seperate .cab files for different carriers with all the data settings in it so we can load our internet settings right away after we install cooked ROMs...
A good thing to add to the ExtROM COULD be a feature i noticed on an early iMate rom i used on my hermes. When it was going ahead with the "customisation..." screen it would ask what carrier you are on?! Then IT would apply the appropriate GPRS/MMS settings?!
May be just laziness on my part but would be a COOL feature.
mrvanx said:
A good thing to add to the ExtROM COULD be a feature i noticed on an early iMate rom i used on my hermes. When it was going ahead with the "customisation..." screen it would ask what carrier you are on?! Then IT would apply the appropriate GPRS/MMS settings?!
May be just laziness on my part but would be a COOL feature.
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I'm at work now, but from the dutch Qtek site www.qtek.nl you can download a cab file with all the settings from the dutch telecom providers.
If you can't find it I can upload it when I get home tonight.
Would be good If we could collect all the Operator cabs and maybe put them on the ftp?
Probably better than clogging up a ROM with them!?
(LOL il get to work TRYING to track down the O2 one)
Settings Files
Here's Imate and Telstra .tsk, if still needed. Thanks for your great work!
here's the dopod 838 pro .tsk
Does the new os actually close programs or still leave them open when you tap the x-button? If so, what about adding HTC_X-Button.cab?
People can always turn it off if they don't want it.
I also load the two tools below, I think just about everyone uses psshutxp and dictionary editor allows you to get rid of those annoying words you misspell and your phone remembers.... They are all pretty small, but extremely useful.
-mix
here goes the official o2 germany tsk file and the o2 germany internet-flatrate wap settings plus the o2 germany mms settings.
if you need a quicktool that can select what to install i can whip that up in c real quick
oli, i wouldnt cook the gps driver just yet.. we need to play with it on wm6.0 to see if its ok..
question besides:
is it necessary to implement vc? especially if the us version isn`t able to deal with with commands in other languages!
anyway, sounds awesome!!!
ibanyard said:
Are you installing apps via ExtRom? I'd suggest against having the apps installed as part of the base rom, some of these apps get updated on a fairly regular basis......
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As you can see, my list of imbedded apps is intentionally short:
1-Calc Lite (replaced Calculator Shortcut in Start Menu)
HTweakC v2.1
PHM Registry Editor
SMS Backup
StartClean
Microsoft Voice Command v1.6 (US)
HTweakC might see some updates but that would be easy to install the new version over and only loose would be the benefit of saving storage Rom.
By embedding these into the Rom we save several Megs of Storage RAM.
Okay, I'll also confirm this is WM6
Also, added Telsta.tsk, i-mate Grass.tsk, i-mate Swoosh.tsk.
I will not be adding other apps to this Rom. If someone wants to gather carrier Data Connections Cabfiles I would be happy to embedd them directly into the Rom (these settings seldom change).
I think I will add the 8525 eyboard Fix Cab file (but not install it) into the Rom.
Currently working on an XML error in the section of code that would place Voice Command into the Rom.
The other apps are all considered stable versions.
jammerlappen said:
question besides:
is it necessary to implement vc? especially if the us version isn`t able to deal with with commands in other languages!
anyway, sounds awesome!!!
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Once I have it in good I can easily generate a parallel Rom without it (I am writing scripts to run the tools which build the Rom so skipping sections is trivial.
CCRDude said:
I myself don't need PHM Registry Editor since I'm using Total Commander with its integrated registry editor plugin, which I find easier to navigate the registry. And I don't need yet-another-way-too-simple-calculator and would prefer a scientific one with RPN (I always hit the wrong keys on non-RPN-calculators ), like RayRPN.
But if having his preferences on the device is the price to pay for using this "very special rom"... well, as long as we're able to hide them from the start menu/programs menu, I'll gladly pay it
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You can delete the shortcuts for anthing you don't like.
Personally I use Resco for Registry & File operations but PHM is simply and requires not install so you have Registry Editing out of the box.
I'll look at RayRPN, I just hate the stupid PPC Calc (still same as the old CE Calc). I love the tip calculator and unit conversion functions of 1-calc.
Again once the integration is done, I can easily generate a 100% plain Rom with no carrier tsk files, images or settings. I figue I'll make use of the time while I wait for approval to release....
HerrVorragend said:
WOW - it's realy WM6??
When will you upload it?
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Please, if you read the thread you will see that I am waiting for my source to approve the Rom (to be sure I have removed everything that could trace it back even close to them - got to protect the source).
I am hoping to have it out in days (no more than 1 week).
kyphur said:
Please, if you read the thread you will see that I am waiting for my source to approve the Rom (to be sure I have removed everything that could trace it back even close to them - got to protect the source).
I am hoping to have it out in days (no more than 1 week).
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Hi kyphur,
I think you can consider to put in the rom the ext rom unhide!
Report Issues Here:
Windows Mobile "XDA Live"
for HTC Hermes
I have applied my XDA Live Scripts to the "Vanilla" edition of Windows Mobile 6 for Hermes.
So I present you with Version 0.10 of XDA Live!
Click here for Images of all the Themes I have collected. I've decided that instead of embedding them all, I will remove all but the default Crossbow Theme and add the Aero Theme.
The rest of the collection will be made available via my website this week.
I have integrated the following Applications:
Dictionary Editor
HTweakC v2.1
MS Hearts for PPC
PHM Registry Editor
SMS Backup
StartClean
VJCandelaLite (Flashlight)
Windows Mobile Remote Display (CERDISP)
Fixes Specific to using "Vanilla" Base Rom
Office Mobile Folder and shortcuts are restored
Remote Desktop Mobile has been embedded
I have integrated the following Registry Fixes:
By default only the Date Plugin is enabled (and it is set to a single line).
The Today Screen says "XDA Live" and the about screen shows " - XDA" after the OS Build Number.
Pressing & Holding the Comm Button toggles the between Vibrate & Normal.
PDAViet Memory Leak Fix is Applied.
Disabled the warning for Unsigned Applications (Application Lock)
Misc:
I have added two "Classic RingTones, (OldPhone-US.wma and OldPhone-UK.wav) for those of us who want to get away from the music and chirping Ringers.
I have removed all carrier customizations, no need to soft reset to avoid customization!
Please let's keep this thread clean. This will aide in getting things fixed/added as quickly as possible.
If you just want to chatter go to one of the two other threads for this Rom (see the end of the FAQ a few posts down). I will leave only one thread sticky but it will always contain links to all "Official" Thread for the Rom.
Confirmed Issues:
Known Issues:
Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) is broken.
Keyboard Backlight Sensor turned off by default.
Turn Off Wi-Fi link is missing from "Connections Bubble".
WiFi enabled on Boot (WiFi Init) is missing.
The following are missing:
ClearVue PDF Viewer.
Cyberon Voice Dialer.
Internet Calling (VOIP).
MSN. (Note this is replaced my MS Live! and wil not be grafted into this Rom)
Note Recorder (including ability to press & Hold to record).
Video Call.
Push To Talk.
SetHSDPA.exe
Add 8525 Keyboard Fix Cab into Rom. (you must install it but it will be there for you now)
Smart Dialer.
Microsoft Live! Mobile. (until there is a real release I will consider installing from the desktop as the fix for this, once there is an official release of WLM or A WM6 Rom that includes it this will become embedded)
Windows Mobile Update.
The WMXL Team is working hard to get these integrated into the Rom.
Items in GREEN are finished for the next release. I would like to time 0.x dot releases at least 1 week apart so expect WMXL v0.20 on March 5th (2007 of course) which will include all verified fixes as of March 3rd.
Click Here For Zip File Containing the following updates:
Button 5 Press & Hold to Record
Enable HSDPA
8525 Keyboard Fix
WiFi Init on Boot
Windows Live Mobile Installer (beta as no Final is available yet)
Where to Download:
Here is the download link:
WM XDA Live v0.10
Official FAQ...
Q: How do I install it.
A: The self extracting archive will run the RUU after it extracts all files. I used The XDA RUU which was modified to push the Des Bootloader to your device. This Installer does not require your device to be SuperCID and should work with all bootloader versions. This installer only has a HTC Splash Screen and the OS, No radio or Ext_ROM.
Q: Will WMXL (Windows Mobile XDA Live) fix my corrupted radio bootloader or otherwise bricked Hermes?
A: If the other tools here can't do it then don't bet the farm on WMXL doing it. The Flashing tools are still the same, no magic pill here.
Q: Kyphur you are such a Guru, how can I be like you?
A: Remember that my head is in the clouds on this one only because I'm standing on the shoulders' of giants. This project owes it's very existence to many other contributers here and they deserve as much if not more of the cudos than I do. The is a team effort, please support everyone who made this possible. (See my post here). I have been a member her for only 15 months give or take but I have spent more time reading than doing or posting.
Q: Can you release Cab file updates instead of cooking new Roms to flash?
A: I will do both. For example coming soon with be WMXL Update Cabs for Internet Calling, Video Calling, SetHSDPA and Windows Live! Mobile (for example). These will all be embedded into WMXL v0.2. I'm doing this to save you from having to flash you device as often as I am. Remember the Cab files will consume Program Memory whereas the new Rom releases will not.
Q: If you embed a program into the Rom how can I remove it (to save memory).
A: You can't remove file that are in the Rom. You can remove the Shortcuts to the programs. Again I will repeat that programs in the Rom do not consume any memory. If you don't want the program simply ignore it and it will not harm you.
Q: Will you still release the scripts?
A: Of course, I have spent the evening building and testing this Rom for Release. Expect this to delay the release of the How-To but it is still coming.
Q: Will you still release a version based on the original Rom (from your unnamed source).
A: Sort of. There will be a release either based on the Original Base Rom (Rom-X) or an Official Released Carrier Rom. This is why I used scripts to make the Mods to the Rom file, I had a working Rom on the Vanilla Base 20 minutes after I downloaded it. I spent most of last night making sure it was stable before releasing.
Q: Why do my recent programs keep disappearing on every reset?
A: That is StartClean. If you don't want this then simply delete the shortcut from your Startup Folder.
Q: I have more questions...
A:The Original Discussion Thread, The Original Release Thread.
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Credits...
This Rom really is a group effort.
Without pof & team unlocking I never would have even gone looking for the base Rom.
aChef by aklok_hk is doing the heavy lifting.
Sleuth255, ShogunMark, Faria ViJay555, Bepe, Maimach have all been instrumental either directly or indirectly in this project.
Des and the SSPL was another step that got me to this point.
Olipro's RUU Workshop was used to make the installer package.
Of course there are all of the guys who have been doing this before I bought my first PPC Phone, they blazed the trail I simply walk behind them.
Finally, I can't forget my unnamed source. They took a big change passing this along to me. Even though this relase is built on the Vanilla Rom, without that trust I wouldn't have been able to spend that previous week cooking with a WM6 Rom Image.
If I missed someone I apologize, just PM me and I'll update the list.
Do not post like this here (please)...
<Name-Changed-To-Protect-Guilty-Party> said:
I'm downloading now.
I will try.
Thanks to all!
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No, No, No...
Don't put posts like this here!!!! Use the other two threads for that.
Please only post issues that need to be investigated/fixed here.
(Yes someone, a senior member no less, really did post that)
Have you unchecked "Enable Advanced Networking" in the USB to PC applet on the Connections Settings Page?
I don't use WM5toage but can check it out tonight.
shrubbery said:
I can't seem to get wm5torage working on this new rom.
When I reconnect the USB lead after activating the utility, windows recognises the mass storage device but then throws up an error and fails.
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BBConnect
Hi all,
Has anyone managed to get this running on the new ROM? Tried v2.1.2.21 and v2.1.2.52, but netiher will sync. Both see network, bbriefly create a tunnel and then disconnect.
Anyone got a similair experience - or better still offer a tip?
Thanks in advance
cyberdrakula said:
1. HSPDA executable missing.
2. Keyboard Fix (Cing ShoeString?)
3. Add Voip.cab from Helmi?
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These three are on the list (two already addressed for next release)
cyberdrakula said:
4. The icon sets of 3G/U/E/G connections for Voice/Data connections. Showing U for Voice and E for Data.
5. Keyboard Backlight Fix
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We need to keep an eye on the Connection Icons, only report if you have this problem, please include hardware and carrier.
Please explain the Keyboard Backlight Fix.
dude just a big thanks il be installing this tonight (after stargate!) and will make some posts as to progress -
WMstorage-
i use this alot so will trouble shoot if there are any problems and see if i can resolve
all the best everyone
peace out-
Added the Turn WiFi Off issue to the list.
Added WiFiInit on startup to fixes for next release. In the meantime, fin WifiInit.exe in the Windows Folder and make a shortcut to it in the Startup Folder.
fun_key said:
I also noticed the lack of "turn off wifi", and sadly another little problem: When the device come out of standby and was previously connected to a wifi acces point it is unable to connect again automatiquely. I can either turn off/on wifi to solve this, or simply manualy go in options and force the connection to the acces point I want.
What is in fact the smartdialing? I have so far the same functionnality with wm2006 I had with wm2005 and smartdialing. I don't see what is missing
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Keyboard Backlight
Disabling the auto light sensing. This is a real bother where the light does not come up sometimes when you hit a key in the keyboard. I don't know if it is possible to disable it by default.
settings/buttons/backlight/enable keyboard backlight auto sensor
I'll look for the registry key and add it to the initial registry (if I can).
cyberdrakula said:
Disabling the auto light sensing. This is a real bother where the light does not come up sometimes when you hit a key in the keyboard. I don't know if it is possible to disable it by default.
settings/buttons/backlight/enable keyboard backlight auto sensor
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SMS send softkey
Under the SMS section of messenging, the left softkey is assigned to Delete, rather than New in WM5. Not sure if this is a WM6 vs WM5 thing as no other WM6 devices to compare to.....
paul_o said:
Hi all,
Has anyone managed to get this running on the new ROM? Tried v2.1.2.21 and v2.1.2.52, but netiher will sync. Both see network, bbriefly create a tunnel and then disconnect.
Anyone got a similair experience - or better still offer a tip?
Thanks in advance
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Same problem as paul_0 here is having. i'm on a different network but same problem. any thoughts yet?
Nope, do we want ClearVue or Adobe?
flyboy009 said:
Is there a pdf reader in this OS? I just noticed that my email attachment didn't have the usual pdf icon.
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Quote:
Have you unchecked "Enable Advanced Networking" in the USB to PC applet on the Connections Settings Page?
I don't use WM5toage but can check it out tonight.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shrubbery
I can't seem to get wm5torage working on this new rom.
When I reconnect the USB lead after activating the utility, windows recognises the mass storage device but then throws up an error and fails.
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I tried unchecking the tick box and this allowed the removable drive to install.
Unfortunately, I couldn't browse the directory structure though - it just shows it as blank. I did get a directory listing once but it then froze.
I also tried installing Card Export II but this just hung when I tried to browse the card.
I've noticed that the device locks while sending mail. That is, for a couple seconds during the process, scrolling is disabled and the buttons have no effect on the interface at all. Then, when it wakes back up, all input is executed, including scrolling and button presses. Any ideas?
This is with the default Vanilla ROM, I should mention - I am about to upgrade to XDA Live 0.1 now.
Definitely ADOBE.
ClearVue doesn't work with many pdf.
I'm trying out PocketXpdf which is an opensource reader, footprint is much smaller which would leave us more room for other items. But this could become a user preference item really, didn't know if that should have been there or not but I'm fine with installing on my storage card since its not a huge deal.
ROM: 3rd WM 6.5 ROM for hTC P3300-P3350_Artemis&Love[WM6.5 Beta 21159] 17-Feb 09 !!!
3rd rom from dheewatara-s:
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=200154&PN=985
http://rapidshare.com/files/199086096/Pawaj_65.7z.html
+CHOME
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA+radio
http://rapidshare.com/files/199080532/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z.html
+CHOME
+ M2D IPhone Style
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA +radio
Testing
I have installed and testing now.
The above pictures shows Program Free Memory as 16.68MB but actual is as below.
At Fresh boot Storage Free 44.44MB and Programs Free 22.63 MB
Download Link from Rapidshare with IE6: http://rapidshare.com/files/197880124/WM6_5_3rd21159.rar
Download in progressing,will flash later today & give feedback...
dioooi said:
3rd rom from dheewatara-s:
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=200154&PN=985
http://www.mediafire.com/?jibyejhwmmg
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA Part only
http://www.mediafire.com/?gjwyltz3w4o
No ie6
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Although my Artemis shows 60 % free program memory, this ROM is still painfully slow.
i've download now n will try...
Thanks for the rom!
Like user above, runs very slow on the main menu but once in file explorer etc it's just as fast.
Time to upgrade the phone??
3rd wm 6.5 rom p3300
I have tried all 3 version of this ROM,
nice look but very very slow on my artemis.
today TITANIUM good, Honeyconbs slooooow other apll quite fast,
IGO8 breeze, tt7 slow.
I hope that some1 can make this fast than today.
it was lag & makes my phone hang... this ROM requires more RAM...
anyway thanks uploader... something new...
tested it for 20 minutes.
TOO SLOW on Artemis.
downloaded and tested for a day or so now
the titanium is better than in previous versions, seems to run smoothly and integrates well at last...good to see the clock finally making a propper appearance in there
also the first chance to play with the new honeycomb interface.
unfortunately the jury is still out on this one.
my view is that it's more of a hinderance than anything else at the moment.
This totally replaces the start menu. Click on the start button and you're taken straight into the honeycomb interface. I wasn't expecting this behaviour from it...i thought it would be more of a today plugin replacement or something, and if it's going to behave like this on new roms it needs to be
a)quick
and
b) easy for you to find your programs or settings that you want.
Personally i dont think it does this yet.
You can click and hold to bring any app into the "favourites" part of the comb, which means you can now "pin" your favourite apps...mcuh like your last used apps used to automatically appear at the top of the start menu.
Unfortunately i think finding anything more than you favourite 5 or 10 progs would quickly become a real pain in the ass.
let me give a quick random example
on a "classic" style rom, let say you want to go to the "SMS SETTINGS" app....you'll go to start , settings, hit the communications tab at the bootom and choose SMS SETTINGS
on this i'll go to start, straight into the honeycomb. From experience i know that it's not in here (which is good becuase this is now a looong page to look in) so i choose the SETTINGS cell. now all i can see is 7 cells and remember there are no tabs here anymore so this is ALL of your settings. I've got About, backlight, bluetooth, buttons , certification, and clocks and alarms. Anything else i have to start randomly scrolling and searching so i start moving downwards. Eventually find it on the 12th cell on the left That's 12 'Down clicks'. If i wanted WLAN SETTINGS or something i would have to do a lot more scrolling. Everything is alphabetically sorted which helps, but it's a 3 colum system and so you still need to read ALL of the available options and you need to know EXACTLY what that app is called (is it TOMTOM or NAVIGATION? Is it under T or N ? etc...you get the gist)
I hope they are still experimenting with this interface becuase i think it looks good and COULD, if done right, be a really nice feature for the WM6.5 system...but it still needs some fundamental work before it works well. Remember how, from the concept art, we through it would be a 2d scrolling 'intellingent' list...it's not. It's stricly up and down alphabetical.
I can't quite put my finger on what it IS that's wrong with it...but there is SOMETHING...it just takes too lonk to find what you need at the moment. Maybe it's just unfamiliarity and it'll all become clear after a few days use, after all i've had 5 years of experience with the old system...the same as lots of people switch vista and XP's interface into win2k mode becuase they know where everything is. I always plead with those gus to stick with it and learn the newer systems becuase they usually DO make sense....but this time i cant see it yet
The new lock mechanism also needs some work. they've obviously tried to emulate a slide-to-unlock mechanism without making it TOO similar to the iphone....unfortunately this means that you get the small blue slider we've all seen on the screenshots at the top-center of the screen and sliding it 1cm or 2 to either the left or right unnlocks. I personally think this gives too much scope for accidental unlocking. I mentioned in another thread a while back about how a "shake to unlock" feature would be self defeating. the point of a lock is to make sure that when the phone wakes up becuase of incomming texts or whatever the phone doesnt totally wake up and end up accidentally resetting all of your calendar appointements or calling people while it's in your pocket....you need it to be HARD to unlock accidentally, but not hard to unlock intentionally. The balance is not quite right here either, same as the honeycomb.
it's still in beta and hopefully the whole thing just needs those last few "tweaks" to the functionality and ergonomics before it too "makes sense" but right now i'm more than willing to switch back to dhee's last manilla rom....it's just easier to use. I hope i'm right and that this rom is in BETA for both reliabiliy AND functionality reasons.
theres a lot of potential, but it isn't there yet.
these comments are ALL down to the mew 6.5 system, NOT dhee's rom, which seems to have done everything it can with what it's been given. Considering the clumsyness of the new interface etc this is as good as i could hope for a 6.5 beta rom to be, and i will install his next rom without ANY hesitation.
for anyone wanting to try the new features out, this is the rom to go for, but i wouldn't blame anyone for not keeping it for too long
thanks again dhee for a great rom, i just hope you get an improved system to pass on to us next. I'll probably leave this one for another day or so to see if it grows on me, jstu like i gave XP and vista's new interfaces a chance.
he's now updated it with an M2D version, link : http://pirun.ku.ac.th/~fscinrn/Download/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z
will flash and let you know, i'm not convinced there's enough room on this rom for M2D too but who knows, he usually pulls it off well
NOTE the download is ONLY an NBH file
rom 6.5 M2D NEW
I have flashed 3 times my artemis with this ROM but always, after reboot wake up one error and auto reboot, so, for me is not working
I hope that someone can fix it.
rossomalpelo said:
I have flashed 3 times my artemis with this ROM but always, after reboot wake up one error and auto reboot, so, for me is not working
I hope that someone can fix it.
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Same result ... And i flash once - device reboot, show me white screen, show error message and reboot again. Back to YuE WM 6.1 firmware. Waiting for stable release.
yeah, the M2D version didnt work for me....reverted back to his earlier 6.5 Beta 2 version with M2D becuase i dont think the honeycomb and titanium is quite ready yet
very very slow.. also the menu is not very much clear
d-signet said:
he's now updated it with an M2D version, link : http://pirun.ku.ac.th/~fscinrn/Download/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z
will flash and let you know, i'm not convinced there's enough room on this rom for M2D too but who knows, he usually pulls it off well
NOTE the download is ONLY an NBH file
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This one is not from dheewatara, and was one of the first roms to include WM6.5.
So far DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL is the quickest and smoothest.
i found DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL to be the same speed as the 2nd rom with M2D from dheewatara, but dheewatara's rom has the newer camera version (with panorama mode) and a slightly newer rom version if i remember correctly. I'm sticking with that one for now
we beg pardon for my terrible English :-[ , I wanted hear there is version room without additional programs ( light ) plz give reference
Hi ppl,
All the links give error .... not found....
Can someone give me a positive link?
Hi any re-uploaded links?
Thanks
hi guys,
Not sure if this is the right place...
I have recently tried using a couple of pieces of software written for older version of WM, but I am running 6.5 (build 28014) on my AT&T Incite.
My problem is the left menu works but the right one does not, e.g.:
Iris browser - Navigate menu works but Page does not, it brings up the Navigate menu as well.... this makes it very hard to, for example, enter a URL to go to....
There was another piece of software, but I cannot for the life of me remember which one - it is gone right now since I just flashed my phone....
I have tried looking for answers, but cannot get any hits - anyone else ever seen this?
I am aware that Irisi is not supported product, but figured it was a broader scale issue since an unrelated piece of software did the same thing....
AJ
sorry let's get this right ... Page works (left menu) navigate doesn't ... (right menu)
other piece of software was an old hex editor - edh I think...
both may need older versions of .net cf - could that be it?
can I revert to older version of .net? (i have 3.7 built into my ROM)
AJ
bumping......
Come on - seriously.... not one reply???
It should work. From a developers point of view I understand it as follows.
The Left/Right Menu with the SIP icon in the middle appeared from WM 5 onward. Even if the program was built using Embedded C++ for WinMo 2003 its behaviour in later versions depends on how many mainmenu items there are. Two or less, and WinMo 5 onwards will display them normally, more than two and the command bar is replaced by a WM2003 style menubar with the SIP icon moved to the far right of the bar.
.NET CF releases are 'supposed' to be backwardly compatible, but that may depend on lots of things. You could try an install of a previous .NET CF, but to get rid of it will probably require a hard reset.
ive had the same issues with newerbuilds of 6.5. Memmaid and gpstoday come to mind regarding their menus that dont work properly.
dschoenike
I don't know about memaid but gpstoday is current development isn't it? someone else should have noticed by now...
I have a copy of it... i'll try it out...
AJ
posted mobile ... Excuse the typos...
confirmed - gpstoday has the same issue ... I might bite the bullet and flash back a few versions to see what happens. that's a real pain though.
AJ
OK so I tried gpstoday and IRIS with microsoft's .net cf cfg powertoy and .net cf 3.5 installed and had the same issue - does that mean it's dependant on the OS? I'm a programmer (past) but not a current developer so I not familiar with this stuff - anyone know how those menus are called/created?
AJ
that would be great if this issue can get fixed. The menu issues are the ony thing holding me back from flashing newer builds of wm 6.5 memmaid hasnt updated in ages, and who knows if/when they ever will.
Big thanks to DFT for the WM Builds, xda and the i900 communities for their kitchens and tools, heineken78, keff and any others that I've neglected to mention.
Official 6.5 Update released by Samsung. ID1 Users are recommended to apply official update to fix broken GPS caused by ID1 update
Direct Links to Exe: For XP and For Vista
Disclaimer: Backup your data before flashing! I am not responsible for any loss of data or damage to your phone. Flash at your own risk.
Instructions:
How to Flash ROM
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Screenshots: (Screenshots are of build 21681, not 23681)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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Features:
12MB Page Pool
Custom boot animation from dielo. Slightly edited and adjusted for i907's SQVGA
Adobe Reader LE
SDKCerts
Remote Desktop
Known Bugs:
FN Key Settings only exits through hardware OK button
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Downloads: All ROMs are 6.5 Kernel based from Official 6.5 Update
New
WM6.5 21681 - 128dpi (3 column Start Menu)
WM6.5 21681 - 128dpi (4 column Start Menu)
WM6.5 21681 - 96dpi
Old - 128 DPI
WM6.5 23134
WM6.5 23569 - Threaded Email
WM6.5 24631 - Messages previews/replies won't send you to threaded view.
WM6.5 23668 v2
WM6.5 23668 v1
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Changelog: Oct 17, 2010
-96dpi version released
-ContentsManager (Samsung) removed
-Adobe Reader LE added for PDF compatibility
-Battery Icons updated
-Registry clean up and minor performance tweaks
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Goodies
-Livven's Theme (Great theme that works great on SQVGA)
-keff's Rock & Republic
-Marketplace Cab
-HTC Calculator for i780 (Works for i907 too)
Reserved for future use
hey is this rom CFC compressed or not?
quadzilla122 said:
hey is this rom CFC compressed or not?
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No, its not CFC compressed, at least not that I'm aware of.
I installed it, boots and looks mostly OK, but for me neither IE, not Task Manager start - they just show the hourglass (or how should we call the new rotating thing?) icon and never actually start.
Going back to trashcan's 28008 for now.
ie??
why ie? put it skyfire or opera. skyfire has flash and is what I am currently running. I like the tabs in opera though. I had both running for a while and switched back and forth but then skyfire got a new update and it just blew opera away! put skyfire in and don't even mess with ie!
Michael Entin said:
I installed it, boots and looks mostly OK, but for me neither IE, not Task Manager start - they just show the hourglass (or how should we call the new rotating thing?) icon and never actually start.
Going back to trashcan's 28008 for now.
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Hm that's strange. It was working before, I'll check it out.
gistofit said:
why ie? put it skyfire or opera. skyfire has flash and is what I am currently running. I like the tabs in opera though. I had both running for a while and switched back and forth but then skyfire got a new update and it just blew opera away! put skyfire in and don't even mess with ie!
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Just like Windows, removing IE from Windows Mobile causes more problems then its worth. Though I do agree, Skyfire and Opera are the way to go however I'm just going for a base rom with just the bare necessities for it to function. No extra programs or anything.
"by the balls" as they say
I gotcha. Keep up the great work!
Haha yeah. Thanks.
Sorry about IE and Task Manager not working, turns out they got corrupted while I was doing something earlier. I replaced the AT&T boot animations while I was at it too. Still working on the USB problem unfortunately.
Here's the dl link for the fixed rom. Updated first post as well.
Download
gistofit said:
why ie?
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IE rendering engine powers much of WM interface - for example whole messaging app is built on top of html + activeX... you can't really get it out and have a functioning device.
.fenrir said:
Haha yeah. Thanks.
Sorry about IE and Task Manager not working, turns out they got corrupted while I was doing something earlier. I replaced the AT&T boot animations while I was at it too. Still working on the USB problem unfortunately.
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Cool, those two work now.
Some issues I've noticed:
1. No Media Player, so if I click 'Play all songs' in Home Screen - phone hangs, if I double click music file - app hangs.
2. 'Getting started' item in Home Screen can't remove itself - app hangs (can be fixed by Home Screen Customizer of course).
Some apps that would be cool to have by default:
1. Microsoft My Phone - good for restoring files and makes initial setup easier.
2. Marketplace
I'm with you on leaving out as much as possible. Build a lean and stable base and we can install our own favorite apps.
Why did you go with build 23xxx instead of 28xxx? I'm not up on the differences. Just curious.
Have you tried using a 0 (dynamic) page pool? I really like having as much free ram as posible. I actually got rid of the trashcan rom mostly because Windows kept running out of ram and closing Opera or Flexmail for me.
Michael Entin said:
Cool, those two work now.
Some issues I've noticed:
1. No Media Player, so if I click 'Play all songs' in Home Screen - phone hangs, if I double click music file - app hangs.
2. 'Getting started' item in Home Screen can't remove itself - app hangs (can be fixed by Home Screen Customizer of course).
Some apps that would be cool to have by default:
1. Microsoft My Phone - good for restoring files and makes initial setup easier.
2. Marketplace
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WMP probably has the same problem as IE and Task Manager had. I'll fix that for the next rom. Gonna have to look into the Getting started thing.
I'm aiming for a lite build rom that doesn't have any extras, this way people can customize as they see fit and not have to deal with apps they don't use or be forced into someone else's preferences. I'll make some cab files for apps that I leave out such as MyPhone, Marketplce, the WM widgets or Livesearch.
justDave said:
I'm with you on leaving out as much as possible. Build a lean and stable base and we can install our own favorite apps.
Why did you go with build 23xxx instead of 28xxx? I'm not up on the differences. Just curious.
Have you tried using a 0 (dynamic) page pool? I really like having as much free ram as posible. I actually got rid of the trashcan rom mostly because Windows kept running out of ram and closing Opera or Flexmail for me.
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Yep this way mostly everyone will be happy and the rom (hopefully) runs as smoothly as possible at the very core.
Decided to try going a different route than trashcan's 28xxx roms. Also I noticed that the 28xxx branch hasn't had any new builds since 28232 back in Feb, where as the 23xxx branch is still coming out with new ones. Though frankly I don't see much differences between them and unfortunately there isn't any sort of changelog for these builds. The 23xxx seems to handle the MMS in Messaging differently then from what I remember in 28xxx or maybe trashcan's rom just did it differently.
I was unaware we could even do dynamic page pool (first time chef, can't be helped =x) I guess I could try it out as a separate rom for the more adventurous. In theory it should speed things up and free up ram...I'll check it out.
Glad to see progress! The only thing I would really like to see is if you can find a nicer calculator to put into the Epix. The calculator on te epix now looks like somehing straight from WM5.
what system are you running xp,vista,7?
are you using the omnia kitchen?
care to post a link to it?
what about this? anyone?
http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/oskitchen-visual-rom-kitchen-for-winmo/
which flasher? grandprix for vista?
the last time i flashed my phone i used xp but now i am running 7 and feel like i am re-learning this flashing business again so any help in the right direction sames me and anyone else reading this some time.
thanks for your work. epix work was kinda fizzling, running on samsung update hopes and dreams.
.fenrir said:
I'm aiming for a lite build rom that doesn't have any extras, this way people can customize as they see fit and not have to deal with apps they don't use or be forced into someone else's preferences.
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I totally support this. I only noticed these two, since they make it easier to bootstrap the phone and install all the other apps (actually just Marketplace would be enough, since it can install the latest My Phone). But I'm totally fine with installing Marketplace from the SD card .
Regarding Media Player - yes, look similar to IE/Taskman problem. It also does not exist in Start Menu. I do see it in Windows folder, but it would not start.
Fenrir, snd me rom, sys, oem folders pls. il check for problem and clean.
Michael Entin said:
I totally support this. I only noticed these two, since they make it easier to bootstrap the phone and install all the other apps (actually just Marketplace would be enough, since it can install the latest My Phone). But I'm totally fine with installing Marketplace from the SD card .
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I don't think Marketplace and MyPhone should be in ROM, because they are often updated and updates are mandatory - which means that after about a month, you will still have to redownload Marketplace and MyPhone, otherwise they will be old and won't let you do anything except upgrade.
(Also, I don't use them much, I do upgrading via Sprite Backup, so I prefer clean ROM).
Fenrir, I tried the fixed beta2, and I think we still have the battery problem - my epix (about 3 month old 1800 mAh battery) lasted about 20 hours of use with only occasional checking of e-mail and web - approx. 1 hour of those twenty, otherwise it was connected to 3g, but in standby and with no data downloading - I don't have a direct comparison or benchmark, but I think that it lasted about 2 days with trashcans rom and similar usage.
I'll keep using your rom, and will post more findings about battery.
BTW, thanks for fixed IE! That was quite a serious bug, because since I (or some app) tried to load it, the start menu stopped opening. Now it is OK.
quadzilla122 said:
Glad to see progress! The only thing I would really like to see is if you can find a nicer calculator to put into the Epix. The calculator on te epix now looks like somehing straight from WM5.
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The calculator's the stock one that comes with the build. I'm going to leave it as is but if you'd like a nicer calculator you can try out the HTC Calculator that was reskinned for the i780 but works just fine for the i907 since they're both SQVGA. Link
gistofit said:
what system are you running xp,vista,7?
are you using the omnia kitchen?
care to post a link to it?
what about this? anyone?
http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/oskitchen-visual-rom-kitchen-for-winmo/
which flasher? grandprix for vista?
the last time i flashed my phone i used xp but now i am running 7 and feel like i am re-learning this flashing business again so any help in the right direction sames me and anyone else reading this some time.
thanks for your work. epix work was kinda fizzling, running on samsung update hopes and dreams.
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I use both XP and 7, though for the purposes of flashing and cooking ROMs I use XP only. I'm using the Omnia kitchen. Technically any Omnia kitchen should work, but I've had mixed results. osKitchen would've worked and did create a bootable ROM but it caused problems since it assumed it was Omnia's resolution. You should be using Grandprix for the flashing, I guess I'll update the first post with instructions for those who have forgotten. Here's a link to the kitchen I'm using: Link
Mid way through April I was thinking chances are nothing's gonna be released, maybe I should finally attempt to cook a ROM myself. Fortunately I was successful with help of course.
Michael Entin said:
I totally support this. I only noticed these two, since they make it easier to bootstrap the phone and install all the other apps (actually just Marketplace would be enough, since it can install the latest My Phone). But I'm totally fine with installing Marketplace from the SD card .
Regarding Media Player - yes, look similar to IE/Taskman problem. It also does not exist in Start Menu. I do see it in Windows folder, but it would not start.
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I was just about to make a cab of the Marketplace, when I realized, its already been done. Its also updated frequently from what I can tell. Marketplace cab
Turns out WMP did infact have the same problem. I forgot to put WMP in the start menu list, so I'll be sure not to leave it out again. I'm going to try to fix a few more things before I post an updated ROM so please bare with it in the meantime.
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Fenrir, I tried the fixed beta2, and I think we still have the battery problem - my epix (about 3 month old 1800 mAh battery) lasted about 20 hours of use with only occasional checking of e-mail and web - approx. 1 hour of those twenty, otherwise it was connected to 3g, but in standby and with no data downloading - I don't have a direct comparison or benchmark, but I think that it lasted about 2 days with trashcans rom and similar usage.
I'll keep using your rom, and will post more findings about battery.
BTW, thanks for fixed IE! That was quite a serious bug, because since I (or some app) tried to load it, the start menu stopped opening. Now it is OK.
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Hmmm on the bright side at least it wasn't as bad as the first beta ROM. I'm not sure what else I can do to improve it aside from some registry edits but I'll look around and see what I can do. Unfortunately I cancelled my data plan a few months ago so I don't have any way of testing myself, and these past few days I've just been home studying away or working on the ROM so not much usage on my phone. Keep me updated on the battery.
Haha yeah the IE was a pretty bad one.
Edit: Oh yeah I forgot I found some other minor problems as well. Phone canvas with the keypad shows an unnecessary scroll bar. Also in-call screen, top row middle button which is suppose to be the Mute button is blank and not working. Both fixed in upcoming ROM. Getting started refuses to work properly so I'll end up pulling it out, rather put the efforts into fixing other things. I doubt anyone uses it but the built in Help (Windows Mobile) will be gone as well if I choose to take this route.
Edit2: Dunno if anyone has noticed and I neglected to mention this, but the only 'extra' app I've put into the ROMs is a finger keyboard, same one that heineken uses in his ROMs. Its an SIP keyboard so to switch to it either go to Input in settings or press and hold the keyboard button and then select Finger Keyboard. Originally I was just messing around and trying it out, but I'll leave it in if people like it. Though probably unnecessary with our QWERTY keyboards =\