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yo is there a website for G1 themes where you can post your own and get some
or is XDA the best we got soo far
Theming has been available for what? A week? Give it time
furreal i thought its been like a month
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furreal i thought its been like a month
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Then why don't you get a domain name and create a site?
he was just asking if there was a website...
because i dont feel like redownloading and cracking fireworks and dreamweaver
but in the future i might just do that and use it as turn it in as project for my web design class
btw im in the 11th grade
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ahh.. gives me ideass to make a theme webiste.. lol.. if you make one i'll help contribute some themes to it .. just have to wait until putting themes on your phone becomes easier for the end user that doesn't know about XDA .. and flashing .. and what the heck a Root is
It is kind of humorous.
I was in the market for a new phone and was looking at the Iphone since it came out. Three or four guys at work showed me their phones and I was hooked, damned be the Iphone's good looks.
After having my phone for two weeks I noticed that the stuff coming out on the Android Market was usefull, but since I like things like Overclocking, you know... bigger...better...faster, I stumbled onto this website about a 2 weeks before the root RC30>RC29 breakthrough. I am trying to keep up because I think this android thing is gonna be really big and I am trying to keep up.
Its been along time since I have done any difficult computer stuff, and these forums has caused me to start considering learning something about Linux.
Themes and Wallpapers will probably get alot easier in the future, but I will be able to look back and say, I remember when we used to have to do things the hard way.
Yes indeed .. the Android in a lil shy of 3 months has already made so much progress
the android system will be come soo universal that the iphone will pale in comparison unless apple changes how they go about things , hardware wise
i think the iphone's hardware is a masterpeice but, the OS is like a trainwreck
ooooo imagine an iphone with android that would be pretty badass
but anyways
the free-ness and the ubiquidocity that will become of the android system
will lead too greatness
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yo is there a website for G1 themes where you can post your own and get some
or is XDA the best we got soo far
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modmygphone.com has a Themes section where you can upload/download themes.
xda site has more themes but its not as organized =[
Dave Da illest 1 said:
Yes indeed .. the Android in a lil shy of 3 months has already made so much progress
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Went from a newborn on 22 October to it's current state as a cute lil' toddler with it's own personality already in just 3 months.
Now there's root for all thanks to JesusFreke; Koush has the screenshot and autorotate browser, we've got a good collection of themes started, 190 apps on Market and 140 games.
Our lil' Android is growing up. Ahh, they grow up so fast, don't they?
you are damn right they do
well the android system anyways its like a baby on steroids and growth hormone
Hi guys...I am thinking about creating a website that will host G1 themes, backgrounds, icon sets...etc. Kinda like a one site for all G1 stuff. If I were to create this website, would I have support from the G1 XDA crew, like providing with themes and what not?
Also, I will need some people to help me run the website and stuff so if you have experience, let me know
Cheers
Sounds like a pretty sweet idea, because I have a feeling this whole thing is gonna skyrocket once the Android usage hits critical mass later this year. I'd try to contribute on such a site, no doubt.
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Hi guys...I am thinking about creating a website that will host G1 themes, backgrounds, icon sets...etc. Kinda like a one site for all G1 stuff. If I were to create this website, would I have support from the G1 XDA crew, like providing with themes and what not?
Also, I will need some people to help me run the website and stuff so if you have experience, let me know
Cheers
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Reasons I'd consider waiting are as follows:
1, When CupCake is released, what kind of impact will this have on the theming community.
2, Maybe wait until all themes are cross platform compatible (i.e. we don't need separate RC8, RC30, and ADP1 versions)
3, Maybe wait until the first theming program is release, so people not aware don't try to randomly flash and jack up their phone.
4, Do we really need a dedicated website already? Have we even hit the 10 theme mark yet? (Also, aren't they all in here right now anyway?)
These are just my thoughts. Others' will probably differ.
Sounds like a great idea i am down check your p.m box.
I have the recources for this web site, but i can not develope it. If someone can make the website, i can host it. P.M me for more information.
I 100% agree with Mi|enko.
Wait it out man.... the operating system is changing so fast that you don't want to waste the money. There are rumors of Google releasing a theme creator which will be available "online". (You will create your theme from Gmail.com and it will sync with your phone).
That would mean your website goes down the hole REAL quick...
I really don't get what the fuss is about this theme, ok so credit should be given where it's due I'm not arguing, but surely all that's required in this instance is "here's my theme - parts are borrowed from here and here, what do you think?" is sufficient.
It's ridiculous that we even feel the need to debate this, someone went out and built a theme they liked, and decided they would share it with the rest of us, something they did not need to do! Instead of saying thanks, we've shut down a thread because it wasn't precise enough about where it's components were found!
Regarding this theme, i love it, i think it almost perfectly combines the best parts of other themes and apart from the splash screen which i rarely see, makes my phone look great. I can't ask the developer to improve the theme now though thanks to a debate about a couple of icons! fantastic!
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I really don't get what the fuss is about this theme, ok so credit should be given where it's due I'm not arguing, but surely all that's required in this instance is "here's my theme - parts are borrowed from here and here, what do you think?" is sufficient.
It's ridiculous that we even feel the need to debate this, someone went out and built a theme they liked, and decided they would share it with the rest of us, something they did not need to do! Instead of saying thanks, we've shut down a thread because it wasn't precise enough about where it's components were found!
Regarding this theme, i love it, i think it almost perfectly combines the best parts of other themes and apart from the splash screen which i rarely see, makes my phone look great. I can't ask the developer to improve the theme now though thanks to a debate about a couple of icons! fantastic!
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thanks faith..
it is clearly ridiculous..but i cant do anything..
HYBRID has in no way stop at all...this is just a set back..
i want my thread back....my original thread..
i am not going to make a new 1 cuz there no neeed..
to everybody that has MY HYBID THEME...or not
please post ur comments and give ur opinion about this whole situation...
and tell the admin/moderators u want my thread re opened....
please help me..
thats all i ask in return...
VIVA LA RESISTANCE!!!!!!!!!! hahah lol
i agree...the thread should be re opened because there is nothing wrong with his theme or how it was created. if you close his then you should close alot others because i know of 3 themes that share the EXACT same clock as the hybrid theme and a few icons and i dont see any reference to whee there clock and icons came from on there thread. everyone is not gonna have a completely different theme, clock, and set of icons. so IMO as long as he acknowledges that he made his theme from a combination of others i feel it is sufficient because whose to sat who FIRST created the black transparant clock that 3THEMES share and icons. as long as he is not saying he created the whole theme from scratch and taking all the cedit then whats the problem? nobody is payin for these themes so its not like he's getting anything from it besides happy hackers who love his work!
If you are referring to the black carbon fiber clock, the actual clock was posted by brandenk in a thread where he gave permission for anyone to use it.
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If you are referring to the black carbon fiber clock, the actual clock was posted by brandenk in a thread where he gave permission for anyone to use it.
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Ok, but there are still a number of themes that share some the same icons and dont give credit to one another.
I do feel that shutting the thread down is the wrong decision...if that is the case, then I want the "Post ONLY your G1 Wallpapers here!" threat shut down...I know for a fact, that there is a Guinness wallpaper on there that I created and uploaded to g1wallz.com that is posted under someone elses name and no credit is given to me. I never really b!tched about it because I dont really care (I posted it on the www afterall, if it was that important to me I would have just kept it to myself)...but if we are going to get picky about giving recognition and asking for permissions then...
Some examples may be helpful, some of us have gotten icons from each other and some from deviantartbut I know the staff doesn't have time to go through every theme that shares something so examples may be needed
Ok here's a simple solution to give credit to all that's do credit.
Disclaimer=
*** I appreciate the hard work and have used icons/images from various sources.. for your hard work I appreciate it and you work lives on in insert theme name here. I wish I can recall all the names of the original makers but I can't as I have scoured the internet and other sources and can't recollect them. If 1 of your images is posted here that should not have been redistributed or used please feel free to contact Theme maker name here and we will work on resolving the issue.
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The above should quickly cover your own @ss and give credit and thus stopping the fighting.
Now how many people have used google to search an item to recreate? not all are graphic masters and not all while trying to develop something remembers their sources.
I personally thank all theme makers and others for their hard work!!!
ANYONE ANYWHERE MAY USE ANY AND ALL COMPONENTS OF MY THEMES WITH OR WITHOUT ANY REFERENCE TO ME OR THOSE THAT HELP ME
With that said, I am here to help and learn. We are what make this phone awesome, not Google, not HTC, not T-mobile, and not any 1 person. I am truly honored anytime you guys use my components in your own themes, if I didnt I would not bother to make them.
If you guys cant understand that imitation is the highest form of flattery all I can say is go watch Star Trek, I learned this lesson from Data on TNG years ago and it has served me very well. Granted, i love it when you guys mention my name if you use my clock but Im not going to be offended if you dont. Especially since the clock wasnt "my idea". Im sure there are a million people out there that could argue they created something very similar way before me, and to them all I have to say is thank you for the great idea and I hope you appreciate my hard work to take your "idea" to the next level.
My ideal scenario would be everyone taking bits and pieces from themes they like and compiling them into a theme that is perfect for them.
Do you know how many of them probably got their icons from the same source? I know some of the themes were yes, obviously borrowed icons, but others were just coincidence. The whole point of open source is that anyone, can take anything anyone makes, change some ****, and create something totally new. Yes, they SHOULD provide credit, but its not key.
Simply put, if you don't want people to use your ideas, do NOT post them. Simple as that. Any moderator that finds the need to close a thread for that purpose is just, well lack for a better word, dumb.
Now to the theme makers directly, I thank them for all the work they put into the themes, it is a lot of work. However they aren't doing it for us, its for them. I wouldn't create a theme based on what everyone else will want, I'd make one that I like, I enjoy, then later post it here to allow others to use it.
So everyone, stop *****ing, stop complaining, and just enjoy what everyone has to offer.
I used that very same clock in my theme and I credited brandenk for it, what tootall4la is doing is wrong. Some people put allot of work into creating these themes, the least he could do is say thanks to brandenk for his clock and what not. Also, I think he got a complete lack of respect for others. Here's a quote when someone suggested he give credit to other people for using their work to create his "Frankenstein"
its a nice suggestion but will not be taken because..
i already gave credit to those ppl!!!!!!!!!!..
i am claming my theme.. im not claming anything else...
like i explained to jdwme..
and thats where my frankenstein title comes from because i use all these parts to make a new theme(a.k.a frankenstein) a new breed the HYBRID...
just call me creative.. no one else though of doing this.. to not dissapoint other theme makers..why should i ask for permission???haha..well im just doing what i think would be a great looking theme and so far ppl do think it is...so suck it lol.
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I know he never credited me for the resources he used,
Hybrid Version 1.5 RELEASE(JFv 1.41 Compatible)
Improvements:
1.Metal Sheet Status bar...
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which is just the brushed metal I created for my Macdroid theme and there's plenty of other stuff he used and never gave a thanks for it. I'm not trying to be a jerk but it is common courtesy to give a thanks.
Open the thread most of the themes contain parts of other themes,I know cause I can see my work all over but that does not matter. Hey guys I also say anything I have done as far as themes can be used with out giving me credit or permission if you want to give credit that would be better but its cool with me either way.
Its not like google or T-Mobile even gave permission to do this lol....I love forum.
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Its not like google or T-Mobile even gave permission to do this lol....I love forum.
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Oh Noes! You mean Mr. T. Mobile himself didnt give you permission to do this?!?! Thats it, im burning my phone and calling the cops on all of your guys!
Well they gave me permission but hey that's me LMAO!!!! Hey an stop calling me I'm off duty.
Theme Police are watcing I need better sun glasses.
Well....this is indeed a touchy subject. I Believe the thread should be reopened as well but.....I agree with Geo411. There does seem to be a lack of respect for other authors. There are authors on here such as Manup and Brandek that do not care, but that does not go for everyone. I for one dont really care for my own theme, but I love and respect all who have contributed to the community and wish that we do give credit to others that worked so hard and actually wanted to be recognized for it. It really does not take that much time to type out a few lines of recognition....Reopen the thread once recognition has been given.
its a nice suggestion but will not be taken because..
i already gave credit to those ppl!!!!!!!!!!..
i am claming my theme.. im not claming anything else...
like i explained to jdwme..
and thats where my frankenstein title comes from because i use all these parts to make a new theme(a.k.a frankenstein) a new breed the HYBRID...
just call me creative.. no one else though of doing this.. to not dissapoint other theme makers..why should i ask for permission???haha..well im just doing what i think would be a great looking theme and so far ppl do think it is...so suck it lol.
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Unless his attitude changes tootall4la will keep hitting a brick wall.
G1 is a fine line with "crediting" sources, since it is open-source.
Although, common courtesy of a thank you to all, is humane, a nice juster.
As for tootall4la's thread to reopen, noticing most theme makers dont mind whether they get credit or not, tootall4la should figure out who he should thank and PM him or them and work it out.
My opinion on this matter doesnt mean a thing. Since im not the mod who closed the thread, i wont be the mod to reopen it without assurance from all, that it's ok to reopen it.
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Ok here's a simple solution to give credit to all that's do credit.
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*** I appreciate the hard work and have used icons/images from various sources.. for your hard work I appreciate it and you work lives on in insert theme name here. I wish I can recall all the names of the original makers but I can't as I have scoured the internet and other sources and can't recollect them. If 1 of your images is posted here that should not have been redistributed or used please feel free to contact Theme maker name here and we will work on resolving the issue.
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Very Well Put... This Would Really Help Solve All This Madness. and i noticed they shut down the thread but i havent seen ONE post supporting keeping the thread closed which should make a point to the moderators that just because ONE person may have a problem, what ablout the rest of the people on the forums who IMO majority doesn't have a problem and wants the thread re opened.
Agreed, and it is personal taste. As a rule of thumb I think communities like this function more on sharing than owning content so if you want to own your content this community probably isnt the place for you. That said, I would like to encourage the sharing aspect of the community and remember, even tho I dont mind anyone using my components, when I get a thank you it goes a long way. Sometimes its a simple "ty" other times its someone buying me a beer, either way the more I get from you guys for my hard work the more willing I am to bust my balls trying to improve things for you guys.
What goes around comes around.
One Q; if the site really cared if we got credit then why is there no thank you button which would solve the problem. When you drop your theme you can be thanked and get your credit automatic.
Anyway a theme section is what's really needed not people fighting about themes who's icons belong to another designer,does anybody ask them permission?
Keep the piece guys it not that serious I would take what ever part of the theme that the other person is complaining about. Tell me what it is and ill make one for you,but I hope this is not going to be your only theme. I want to see some more work after this original.
Hey I also don't mind if people use/improve my theme, what I'm referring to was the improper etiquette used. Here's a PM from a user on the forum asking if he can improve upon my theme. This is proper etiquette.
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Sistum Id said:
I am requesting permission to edit and alter your MacDroid v2.2 1.41 theme for the G1. I will be making the aluminum darker (more black), and maybe changing a few icons.
If you want when I'm done I can forward it to you or host it myself and give you credit or never release it publicly.
Mike
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I tried making the brushed metal darker and it doesn't look right. It blended in to much with the rest of the menu icons and made thing harder to see. Well give it a shot perhaps you can make it look better than I did.
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I know what you mean. I tried different ways with photoshop to just change yours and make it darker but it doesnt come out right at all. It looks more bluish gray if anything.
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As a rule of thumb I think communities like this function more on sharing than owning content so if you want to own your content this community probably isnt the place for you.
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I agree with this, if it wasn't for JF finding loopholes to root or Stericson for sharing what he discovered we about theming, we wouldn't be here modding our phones in the first place.
To Whom It May Concern!
Don't port over other theme dever's stuff unless they give the ok.
in this scenario you either get permission or make your own.
STAY AWAY FROM MANUP456 THEME'S IF OTHER THEME DEVER'S ARE OK WITH IT BE MY GUEST!
EDIT#1s. this post edit is decdicated to all you ALL CAP HATERS!! get over it and just read the flippin post!!!!
Edit#2:This thread was taken way out of context there has been an extreme amount of negativity spawned from this post. I did not intend to offend and at the time of the orignal post I admitt I approached the topic in the wrong state of mind again my appologies and I want to express my apprreciation to all dev's and themers you guys kepp this sight going. . . Although I spoke-out before I thought, this EDIT is much needed.. Now if its not to much to ask let's move.. the last thing XDA need is another flame war.
Um, I see other posts (see MOONSSPOON's post in the Gloos/Aero port thread) where the original developer doesn't seem to mind the port. If you don't want people porting your work just say so, but I don't personally think the people porting are "pirates". They are just trying to help out because of all of the recent new releases.
I'm sure different theme developers have different opinions on this, just state in your original post if you don't want people using it. Though I have to say, if JF/Hakyro/etc all said "this is my work you can't use it" where would development be right now? That being the case though, I do think people should respect your request and not port it if that's what you want. Though it's going to be really silly if ports start showing up on torrent trackers lol. (come on you know that's funny)
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To Whom It May Concern!!
you know who you are!!!
STOP! STOP! STOP! PORTING OVER THEMES THAT YOU DID'NT DEVELOPE WITH OUT ASKING PERMISSION FIRST THATS JUST DISRESPECTFULL!!! YOU HAVE 2 OPTIONS IN THIS SCENARIO WAIT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO PORT IT OVER OFFICIALLY OR (DRUMROLL PLEASE). . .MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!
AS FOR THOSE OF YOU FLASHING THESE THEMES KNOW ONE THING, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THESE "PIRATE-PORTERS" TO GIVE YOU AND OFFCIAL, 100%PRODUCT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DID NOT CREATE IT!! SO ON THAT NOTE FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK
HEY PIRATE-PORTERS!!! STOP CHOPPING UP PEOPLES WORK!!!
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1) All caps is never a way to get your point across effectively
2) As the above poster said, the unwritten rule around here is that yes, it's great to ask the developer first. If you don't, however, it's perfectly acceptable to just say "I ported _____s theme over to 1.5" as long as you're not taking credit for the original theme.
This community is based on collaboration, and as long as people give credit where it is due, it's ok (at least in my book).
Oh come on...
1. Please edit it to normal letters... you behave like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDDEhLw1PVI
2. I really dont like people porting themes and presenting them beeing their own, but there is nearly no one doing it. So please think before you post...
How many people do we need porting one theme is the problem,if the dev says its cool then fine but four and five people porting the same theme is bound to end up in a mess. I myself will port my own themes which all theme devs should be doing. It is not safe to have people who are just jumping into this porting themes and or creating them,its all fun till people start messing up there phones then the volume of threads and post will go up because people will need to know how to fix there phone. If the people porting don't have a good amount of experience then what happens then? its becomes another's person's problem to help them.
Food for thought.
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It is not safe to have people who are just jumping into this porting themes and or creating them...
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Isn't that exactally the idea?
[HOW TO]Manuals for creating a Theam
There's even a manual to show people how to get started. I think if you're on these forums and flashing your phone it's a given that you're taking a risk. That's what it's all about, if you don't want that risk you shouldn't be downloading stuff from here, use an application with themes on the market.
Everyone starts not knowing how to do it, it's a learning process.
Again, I think people shouldn't be stepping on the toes of the developer. I also think you should edit your post so that you don't claim to speak for all theme developers.
Well that's my $.02 anyway.
im with manup, if you make a theme for one version, its a lot easier to port it, then it is to make a whole new one.
Just be considerate and patient... let the Theme-Creator take his/her time to what they want...
im all for requests to port a theme to a certain version, and for the most part it gets done.
Who's porting manup's themes?
Porting is not creating if you are learning to create theme fine then create one. The guides are very basic they teach you how to get started if everyone could create themes they would just like the devs who create builds for the phone. The problem is if you want to mess up your phone fine but why risk others phones in your learning process? Dude's build and all the new builds have a bunch of extra icons how are you going about that?
It pains me to see people taking builds/themes chopping them up and putting them back together with very little knowledge of what's really going on in there. There is no way for someone porting a theme to know if there are any .xml edits or .jar edits like stericson is doing.
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Who's porting manup's themes?
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There was a request for a port to JF1.5 in the PS theme thread. I was going to post a port but didn't (at his request) and another poster said he had one that he wouldn't post.
I haven't seen one actually posted though. I assume this post was due to the request for the theme port.
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Who's porting manup's themes?
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Don't worry bro thats a main reason we started this my themes cant be ported by anyone but me.
I kinda felt a little weird and a little scared to port all these old themes with new people all of the sudden taking other members themes and screwing and chopping them. I also would think the better choice is to maybe wait for the original theme creator to port it for whatever new update comes out. just to kinda keep things safe. Its cool to do it for your personal use or mess around a little with other people's ish but i personally wouldn't really want anyone messing with my themes if i was the creator. just my .02
My theme was ported without my permission, I didn't say anything because this is just my contribution back to the community. The only problem I see with other people porting themes is that they might leave stuff out. I'm still in the process of porting my Aero theme to 1.5, that will include everything that was from the other version plus more.
I think it's great to see people want themes so bad they are doing the port themselves BUT at the same time, I agree that it should be done by the dev. I put a lot of time into my themes, making sure everything is just right, before even posting I have one available. Over the last 2 or 3 months themes have become so much more intricate than just icon changes and a status bar change. And if you port one over but don't move everything over, it can ruin the overall appeal of the theme. Once everything settles down with the 1.5 builds then I'll start porting my own over, the first will be carbon, and like spikey, it'll have a lot more done to it, I'm basically only using the orignal icons and that's it.
Also with 1.5 the custom edits are a lot different, and it's taking time to get them out. Thanks to Stericson we're finally starting to get some available.
I don't think it's piracy, but also wouldn't want one of my themes ported and posted without my permission. I know it happens and we can't stop it from happening, but show a little respect and patience, devs want to make sure our initial ideas remain through all versions of our themes
let the authors go after people that port their work without permission...
are you the authors? Of course correct thing to do is ask them first hand. However, If nothing is said to these "pirates", then authors probably dont care, dont do the caring for them.
since everyone else has their two cents in here i'm gonna throw mine in too. i personally have no problem with people porting my work, but of course i expect credit for the theme itself, and if i find out the theme porter got a donation for the theme i will rip off his balls and shove them down his throat. i see why manup would be upset that people are porting his work, i would be willing to bet that if he is given credit then people will go to him and say something like "hi i was using your haykuro 1.5 port of your ninja theme and now my phone won't boot. can you tell me how to fix it?"(i used this example becasue i am pretty sure no one has ported it yet) if someone is going to port another's work i prefer the rule of don't touch it till you have permission. i see DVD's and CDs the same way, it's leagal to make a digital copy for personal use, but not to distribute, if you wanna port your favorite theme yourself for your personal phone then fine go ahead but you are responsible for the brick you end up with.
as a general rule unless the dev says it's ok just let them port the theme, you are more likely to get a full port if you wait for the dev to do it since they are the original creator and know what they changed. as to multiple people porting the same themes that needs to stop because people will get confused and i will not be able to contain myself when the threads start popping up the the dev forum "i bricked my phone after porting XXXXX theme"
(steps down off soapbox) that's just my opinion
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let the authors go after people that port their work without permission...
are you the authors? Of course correct thing to do is ask them first hand. However, If nothing is said to these "pirates", then authors probably dont care, dont do the caring for them.
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thanks for your input zeezee, but i work hand and hand w/ the author and he and i agreed on posting this thread.. fyi he's not the only one that isnt crazy about people porting other peoples work and w/ all the themes we have on this forum, and all the new builds that are out, this is a subject that needed to be clarified...
Hey hypocrites...do you see google posting to this board that we "ruined the consistency of there theme" or "don't want us to ruin our phones w/ hackware and then ask them questions when a jf/haykuro/dude port messed them up." NO, I didn't think so. You should be grateful someone likes your theme enough to port it. You don't own your theme...this is a community involved project (developing for this phone as a whole). You can't TM Or copyright a theme on a hacked phone and the notion that you would if you could is beyond me. Bottom line is if the credit is given to the origonal dev it should be ok....except for Manups (and that's only done out of respect). This thread has so far made me sick and I don't have a strong gag reflex.
Can you honestly imagine if more themers/devs thought this way? Xda wouldn't be!
Here's a motto to live by in this type of community setting. "Why write code twice" meaning if somethings out there you can improve on, use it giving credit where due...but WHY would you write it again....
MODS SHOULD CLOSE THIS THREAD...for obvious reasons, and before the fighting starts, like going against everything XDA even stands for.
I really appreciate all the hard work xda's theme developers do to create all these themes. I have absolutely no photoshop skills (never even used it) and haven't found the time to set up the resigning tool.
Whenever something has gone wrong with a custom theme, I never feel the need to bother theme developers. Anyone who has actually read through this forum should know common troubleshooting steps e.g. wipe, reflash, etc.
Keeping that in mind, there are many people who don't take the time to actually read threads around here, and regardless of who ports what, I would think that the questions will keep coming no matter what.
That said, I have a ported theme on my phone right now, and I really appreciate work done by a "pirate". like i said, i'm not set up right now to port themes on my own, and a "pirate" saved me a lot of time. He didn't have to share, but he did and i appreciate that. You can imagine the fuss that would be raised if someone was holding out on other members..
I'd rather be using a full theme, but what I want out of this theme is slightly modified, and I'm not sure if the theme dev will oblige me.
So big thanks to devs and pirates alike, i love the way my phone looks. Hopefully all of you will be able to work out all the important details and the community will continue to thrive!
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Hey hypocrites...do you see google posting to this board that we "ruined the consistency of there theme" or "don't want us to ruin our phones w/ hackware and then ask them questions when a jf/haykuro/dude port messed them up." NO, I didn't think so. You should be grateful someone likes your theme enough to port it. You don't own your theme...this is a community involved project (developing for this phone as a whole). You can't TM Or copyright a theme on a hacked phone and the notion that you would if you could is beyond me. Bottom line is if the credit is given to the origonal dev it should be ok....except for Manups (and that's only done out of respect). This thread has so far made me sick and I don't have a strong gag reflex.
Can you honestly imagine if more themers/devs thought this way? Xda wouldn't be!
Here's a motto to live by in this type of community setting. "Why write code twice" meaning if somethings out there you can improve on, use it giving credit where due...but WHY would you write it again....
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Amen, brother.
Also, just curious if all of the theme devs actually designed their own artwork (all of it) or if they just took images from online and used them without permission regardless of copyright infringement? (and I know the overall answer.. because I see a LOT of copyrighted images in many themes, icon sets and backgrounds.) If I stole a bunch of Mickey Mouse(TM) artwork and made backgrounds, icon sets, etc.. I wouldnt really be able to complain about people stealing my theme, since I stole the images, right?
As far as being respectful, sure.. I can understand and agree with that, but if I make a theme and never port it to newer versions.. well, I would expect someone to go ahead and do it (if there was a demand for my theme). I would expect them to keep the theme name and give me credit for the original port. This is afterall, an open source community..
In the end, all you can do as a theme dev is attach a Readme.txt to your themes with you name, forum name, email address and other contact information and ask that people please do not port your theme without your permission.
Good luck enforcing the issue though..
Rick
Built this theme upon request by a friend who recently bought a G1 from me. Being a huge fan myself I had a lot of fun w/ this one =) Features JrBourque's red VK. If anyone wants a port, this can be done relatively easy so feel free to throw that out there if interested.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mimfg25tzmj/Robotech_Hv1.5r3_A2SD.zip
Aight. Decided to make the switch this evening so I ported my latest theme over. Ended up ranting bout a bunch of stuff that came to my mind after the icons of this theme were criticized. Here is the link and screen shots to spare anyone not interested bout the rant lol. To give credit where credit is due, I compiled JrBourque's Red VK into this build. Anyone who need's a custom VK should hit him and Diaztradeinc up asap. Quality stuff fo sho.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gmyyzgnyxa2/Robotech_JFv1.5.zip
Thus far, posting this las night (in Hv1.5 form) I've only gotten one post of criticism regarding the icons... but I don't really care. I'm open to constructive criticism within my means and MO, but I'm not here to please absolutely everyone. I enjoy making these things, have a zillion different ideas for themes that I'd like to see on my own phone and will continue to post them up as I make them, for whomever might be interested in them (no point in keeping them to myself).
This criticism over my icons put a lot on my mind today so I suppose I'll take the opportunity to put it out there. There seem to be 2 destinctive types of themes to me - Graphic driven themes and Subject driven themes. By graphic driven theme I mean those like Aero and Gloss that are based on no subject but built from scratch, open completely to unique artistic creation to no end. By subject driven themes, well, that's self explanatory (IE Mario, X-men, Punisher, Spider-Man, Gambit, Megaman, Robotech etc. etc. etc.).
Don't expect any of my themes to be graphic driven themes. Subject matter inspires me to build these themes, not graphic design, and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. I really only do this for the enjoyment of seeing my work and particular subjects come to fruition and don't have much interest in pushing my graphic art skills beyond where they currently are. I'd consider my graphic art skills intermediate at best. My skills are not nearly up to par w/ other designers on here. I'm far more inspired to see themes based on my favorite comic books and anime (among other potential mediums) come to fruition than I am to take the time to create unique and original designs. I'm in constant awe of what other members create and share w/ the community. I'm not in this for competition or comparison. I'll let peeps do their thang while I do mine. Jus in this for my own personal enjoyment and there's no point in keeping the fruits of my labors to myself if anyone else is ever interested in running it themselves.
To speak more directly regarding my feelings about icons representing the individual apps instead of the subject matter... in building a subject driven theme, I feel if the icons don't represent the subject in particular, they aren't nearly as interesting. I guess I think of it in the terms of what a Desktop theme would look like (because, Android really is a miniaturized desktop afterall). Even if I extracted a calculator (for example) from the source of the subject (like a calculator that appears in an episode of Robotech in this case), it wouldn't be recognizable as representation of that subject unless it were a character holding a friggin calculator or something. And if an icon like that was made you really wouldn't see the calculator once the image was scaled to the small size that the system icons are.
My work being criticized as though it should be similar to other themes in this regard bothered me enough that I guess I felt compelled to rant and explain my point of view, (and if you're readin this, naw man, I'm still not offended, jus put a lot on my mind). Anyways. This thing is long enough I suppose lol
OK... but don't you think you could make the icons at least sort of related to the apps?
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OK... but don't you think you could make the icons at least sort of related to the apps?
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If I wasn't at such a loss for source material I would have. I'm not kidding. About 80 or 90 google image search pages later I was still at square 2 where in previous endeavors id be at square 6.
Besides, I DO honestly strive for that (my settings icon in my Megaman theme being a good example of that, it was the start menu of MM2), however, I compare my work to that of a couple other cats on here and their icons aren't too particular to the individual apps either.
I agree. It would be REALLY sweet to be able to be that specific but the truth of the matter is I'm decent w/ Gimp (photoshop clone, much better), but I'm no ace by any means. There aren't enough pictures out there to do such a thing in the way id prefer. Calendar/calculator for example. Don't know if either ever appeared in a robotexh episode but if they did, even though it was taken from robotech it wouldn't feel in accordance w/ the theme cuz it wouldn't be familiar looking at all nor would it be destinctively related to the subject matter.
Sorry for the novel lol. You touched a softspot for me, not in a way that I'm offended at all, more like I WISH I COULD make the icons in stronger accordance w/ the individual apps but it's just not possible.
Id actually be curious to see someone else's attempt at such. Do you know of a charicter/show/whatever based theme that's been able to pull this off well? If so you should point me in that direction so I can scope it out
Man. Ain't no other Robotech fans up on here? Really? =) guess I stand alone. Or maybe no one is running H's 1.5 anymore now that he's released 6.0 =) I'm actually gonna update my phone to JFs 1.5 update so I think ill be porting it anyways and when I do ill post the port as well I guess.
Would be nice if you could make a proper Samurai Champloo, after seeing this I'm sure it will be great
Haha I just posted on the other one. Do you have to wipe for this? I haven't flashed a theme in a good while, also like i posted there is there any way that you can make a Samurai Champloo? After seeing this i would jump on your work of SC
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Haha I just posted on the other one. Do you have to wipe for this? I haven't flashed a theme in a good while, also like i posted there is there any way that you can make a Samurai Champloo? After seeing this i would jump on your work of SC
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Ha ha ha. FUNNY thing you mention that. I just decided this evening to start workin on a Cowboy Bebop theme. The robotech theme was on my list and when my friend bought a G1 from me and said "hey you should make a robotech theme" I took that as a sign. Now a dif friend is buyin a G1 from me on Sat and said "hey you should build a cowboy bebop theme" (which was also on my list =)) followed just a few hours later by "man a Samurai Champloo theme would be awesome too" lol. So I'm thinking at this point w/ 2 people already requesting both, both being on my list, that I can't make one w/ out doing the other ha ha. Once my Cowboy Bebop theme is done and released I'll def have to dive into Samurai Champloo as well ha ha.
Oh and, no wipe necessary. What build are you running? If you're runnin Haykuro's 1.5 jus flash it and it should update fine (in which case you'd want to grab the Hv1.5 theme on the other thread). Same w/ JF's too. =)
Ah perfect! Damn i wish i would have known this earlier to beat your friend and have you make the Samurai Champloo first but a man can wait I'm running JF1.51 ADP. So maybe you can work on it... whenever you're done a nice thank you will be heading your way
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Ah perfect! Damn i wish i would have known this earlier to beat your friend and have you make the Samurai Champloo first but a man can wait I'm running JF1.51 ADP. So maybe you can work on it... whenever you're done a nice thank you will be heading your way
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Yeah. there are some major complications regarding 1.51 US that I wasn't really wanting to get into. I'll prolly look into it further but ultimately the only real dif between 1.5 and 1.51 was MyFaves and Amazon for me so I decided against updateing. And from what I understand, flashing a theme built on 1.5 onto 1.51 US doesn't really work right =(. If someone figures out an easy way to extract the framework-res.apk I might jump on board. Otherwise I might actually look into 1.51 UK (which is also compatible w/ the JF1.5 themes that I'm constructing I do believe). I'm pretty sure that the only thing dif about US and UK is that the US f/w has My Faves, which isn't really a big deal since you can adjust your faves (if you even have any) using t mo's website.
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Ha ha ha. FUNNY thing you mention that. I just decided this evening to start workin on a Cowboy Bebop theme.
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heh, CbBb, my all-time favorite anime/show/whatever. I was thinking of one a while back, thought of making it real subtle, in-so-that only a fan would know it was anime/Cowboy Bebop. Heavy use of the opening credit style, pictures of the swordfish, profile silhouettes, etc etc etc.
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Yeah. there are some major complications regarding 1.51 US that I wasn't really wanting to get into. I'll prolly look into it further but ultimately the only real dif between 1.5 and 1.51 was MyFaves and Amazon for me so I decided against updateing. And from what I understand, flashing a theme built on 1.5 onto 1.51 US doesn't really work right =(. If someone figures out an easy way to extract the framework-res.apk I might jump on board. Otherwise I might actually look into 1.51 UK (which is also compatible w/ the JF1.5 themes that I'm constructing I do believe). I'm pretty sure that the only thing dif about US and UK is that the US f/w has My Faves, which isn't really a big deal since you can adjust your faves (if you even have any) using t mo's website.
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The 1.51 Adp doesn't actually have myfaves or amazon apk. so if it's like the uk one it will be cool
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heh, CbBb, my all-time favorite anime/show/whatever. I was thinking of one a while back, thought of making it real subtle, in-so-that only a fan would know it was anime/Cowboy Bebop. Heavy use of the opening credit style, pictures of the swordfish, profile silhouettes, etc etc etc.
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Yeah it took me, literally HOURS to find a good element to use as the menu background, I ended up using a contour from the opening credits that actually worked pretty well =)
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The 1.51 Adp doesn't actually have myfaves or amazon apk. so if it's like the uk one it will be cool
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yeah man. I actually think you'll be in good shape then. Pretty sure the US build is the only one w/ that issue. If you flashed this robotech theme (or the Megaman one I ported for JF 1.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515742 ) that'll tell ya whether this CbBb theme and the SC theme to follow will work or not =) using the same template to build these.
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Yeah it took me, literally HOURS to find a good element to use as the menu background, I ended up using a contour from the opening credits that actually worked pretty well =)
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Blue suits it well
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Blue suits it well
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ha ha. Yeah I can't seem to stay away from Blue. It's my favorite color. =)
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ha ha. Yeah I can't seem to stay away from Blue. It's my favorite color. =)
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Samurai champloo better not have blue! *shakes fist* haha I'll be checking out the theme right now I'm scared though
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Samurai champloo better not have blue! *shakes fist* haha I'll be checking out the theme right now I'm scared though
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Naw I was actually thinkin of goin Green for the Samurai Champloo one. there are some graphics I remember seeing around the net I'm already thinking of incorporating into the theme lol. I can't help myself. Just can't stop. Haven't been able to get any more than 5 hours of sleep a night and have been completely exhausted but still can't seem to pull myself away from my computer lol.
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Naw I was actually thinkin of goin Green for the Samurai Champloo one. there are some graphics I remember seeing around the net I'm already thinking of incorporating into the theme lol. I can't help myself. Just can't stop. Haven't been able to get any more than 5 hours of sleep a night and have been completely exhausted but still can't seem to pull myself away from my computer lol.
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If i knew how to create a theme i would help you out, but I'm dumb and useless so expect a lot this *shakes fist* If you do something wrong, and i feel your pain about sleeping 5 hrs a night. I'm about to go on for four :/ and then wake up to school :/
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If i knew how to create a theme i would help you out, but I'm dumb and useless so expect a lot this *shakes fist* If you do something wrong, and i feel your pain about sleeping 5 hrs a night. I'm about to go on for four :/ and then wake up to school :/
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Ha ha ha. Hopefully the theme I build will be satisfactory w/ out any fist shaking necessary lol
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Naw I was actually thinkin of goin Green for the Samurai Champloo one. there are some graphics I remember seeing around the net I'm already thinking of incorporating into the theme lol.
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You think so? I imagined something warm, like orange...
I have been searching around for a Resident Evil theme and/or boot animation and haven't found much for the EVO. I thought an entire resident evil or Umbrella corp theme would be pretty sweet.
Any crafty DEV's feel like tackling it?
I am all about it. If it gets done i will be #1 to install.
I think that will be an awesome idea, I will use that if it comes out.
I love the idea I would be #2 to install it.
Would love to see this happen.
I would really like to see this I love Resident Evil (the games and the movies) and I don't care what number I am I just want it!
Well at least I am not the only one. Good to know there is some other interest in the idea. Hopefully if the interest continues to grow then we might be able to see one in development.
not until someone that actually knows how to do it becomes interested. its much easier to find pps willing to flash a new theme than it is finding a themer to produce it....it will be advantageous to yourself to learn how to do it yourself. theming is not very hard, mostly just png viewing/swapping. fyi, a full theme can take someone up to a week or even much longer than that,so a request is nice, but offering help to a themer is a much better way to get your theme produced if you cant do it yourself...grab images,pics,gifs,etc... and post them up for said themer to work with as a base for your suggested theme.
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i like RE too, but dont have time to complete a theme for pps, plus this theme will be going to a select few pps, and when you produce a theme upon request, you would like it to reach as many people as possible since it tends to be very time consuming....in other words, for a themer to produce this theme with 2 or 3 replies in the thread, and no interest of their own may not be very likely, however i wish you all good luck. sorry i am too busy to take on this theme....but you increase your odds of production, when....
1.the themer wants the theme themself
2.EVERYONE here would love the theme
3.you give the themer a starting point for basing the theme(images,logos,etc...)
4.learn to theme yourself(i am one of those picky pps with bad taste so i had to do it this way)
I totally understand, I would love to build it myself, but am not at a point yet where i even understand where to begin (though i am reading up on it) I have several idea's in mind as far as images and icons, boot ani. With the more i read on it, i may be willing to try and create one. Thanks for the input
Magnus has the right idea. Post some images and resources here. Screencaps of interfaces and such. That might be enough to inspire somebody to make it happen.
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