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Hi All
Since getting a Touch HD iv'e been trying to make some of my favourite programs look ok with the WVGA Resolution.
Here are 3 skins i have either made or modified that work well all keeping the Touchflo 3D Theme.
The first is an S2u2 theme (just copy the gfx folder to the s2u2 dir) and use the clock dir
Second is a quick basic Launch manager theme (copy the defaultwvga dir into the skins dir of lm
last is a Pocketcm theme , This is not my theme but i adapted to work on WVGA , The theme was created by Oumpahpah called Dark Diamond II - 2, I just resized some graphics and made the buttons work on the contact details page, I also edited the ini file to resize some of the screen placings.
There i 1 small glitch which i have yet to iron out on the sms page but it does not interfere with the working of the sms page it just bugs me its there (a white line around the SMS box)
you need to extract both the zip and the dir into the pocketcm dir and choose the
Modified Dark Diamond II 0.25c VGA theme
Also check here for a nice TF3d calendar mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423647
It works great and ive also managed to move the tab using the diamond TF3D editor
also from a diamond thread ive managed to change the calendar link from the homepage to thumbcal and the all people shortcut on the contacs page to pocketcm
I just wish HTC would allow us to show more Appointments on the home screen it seems a waste of the lovely screen not to fill it up
Hope these help
Edit Fixed the SMS glitch Ver2 uploaded of teh PocketCM Theme
Edit Added Thumbcal Skin (skin.diamond_WVGA.zip) just put the zip into the Thumbcal Dir
the other skins work ok but i noticed that the lines were not even on the vga Skin so this fixes that along with the images are now the correct size
New Calculator SKin
Found a great VGA Calc Skin by L.Sylvain but i admended it for WVGA
Install the L.Sylvain cab file then extract the SpbCalc_P_VGA.png file from the SpbCalc_P_VGA.zip and copy it into the windows dir
Edit 20-11 Resized the Landscape too - copy both files into the Windows Dir
Edit 21-11 Small update to the Calc Skin - Changed the pressed keys to Green which is more in line with the Touch HD Theme
08-12 removed the original calc skin as there are better versions now
The final skins are later in this thread
Calc with Grey Pressed buttons SpbCalc_P_WVGA_grey_Final.zip
calc with Green Pressed Buttons SpbCalc_P_WVGAgreen_Final.zip
Both have a condensed but i think easier layout on portrait
and a full layout on landscape
Wow, the calendar and it's tab looks VERY nice! It's late now, but I'll definitely give this a try tomorrow..thanks!
hi machmandp
do i get it right?
I can get the calendar tab in tf3d on the touch hd following the instructions given on the link you supplied?
Do I loose any other tab of the original tabs by performing thid modification?
Thanks in advance for your replies!
Ascenca
Hi
I can just give my experience and i lost no tabs when i added it
I dont use the stock tab which is why it's missing from my setup but it's available (i tried it)
Machmandp - you are an absolute star! I piddled around with the dark diamond skin when I got my HD and got so far with it but then got stuck. I've been hoping someone would sort this out as it is a very appropriate theme for the HD. Limited testing so far and although I can see your (very minor) issue on the SMS screen, everything else looks very good...so many, many thanks. I'd be interested in any further tweaks you make to this skin.
I might pick your brains on linking to different calendar/contact apps, but I'll try searching again first.
Thanks again
I put it on and took it off again because I did lose a tab - programs. I don't have time to play with it right now. It also seems to be static - in other words you get a tab displaying a calendar page but you can't actually do much more than look at the dates. You can't open and interact with the calendar for example.
Mind you that's on a very limited try and I'm happy to be corrected.
machmandp - did you by any chance slot your version into where the stock tab would have been? Also, what do you do with the locale file - I was getting IDS_Calendar_... in front of everything. Can you do more with the calendar than just look at it?
If you get a second, can you point me in the right direction for the diamond tweaks for calendar and contacts - I'm drawing a blank so far
Cheers
Hi
the link for the editor i used for the contacts and calendar links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407777
make sure you read the whole thread as it has info for the touch HD later in the thread
I did put the calendar where the stock tab used to be but i have enabled the stock tab and it still shows so i have lost no tabs at all.
As regards to the local file you just need to download the lacales.zip from the thread and put the correct locale file into the windows dir (mine was en-us)
yep it's very static at the moment but as the page evolves i figure that it's a good thing to have it working and then i'll just have to replce the actual manila files without having to edit any again, also it's still pretty good as a quick veiw calendar
I am working on the Pocketcm skin so hopefully i'll get rid of that glitch soon
Thanks
Fixed the SMS glitch in PocketCM Theme
Version 2 uploaded in the main post
and better more detailed instructions on changing the links can be found in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444297
machmandp said:
Hi All
Since getting a Touch HD iv'e been trying to make some of my favourite programs look ok with the WVGA Resolution.
Here are 3 skins i have either made or modified that work well all keeping the Touchflo 3D Theme.
The first is an S2u2 theme (just copy the gfx folder to the s2u2 dir) and use the clock dir
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Hi, in anticipation of getting hold of my Touch HD (when mobiles.co.uk eventually ships it on O2!) I'm been tinkering around with my Hermes.
I love the look of your S2U2 skin. I've tried to replicate it on my Hermes back down to 320x240 screen.
All seems to have worked ok except I can't get rid of the coloured overlay that S2U2 puts behind the clock. I've changed the background picture to be the one that I use across all devices (the nice blue sunray looking one from Windows 7) but it ends up with this semi-translucent bar with the clock figures and date in across the top half.
Which image file do I need to make transparent to make that go away?
Hope my post made sense.
I'll try and get some screen shots up to show what I mean.
machmandp said:
Fixed the SMS glitch in PocketCM Theme
Version 2 uploaded in the main post
and better more detailed instructions on changing the links can be found in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444297
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You are an absolute toff sir!
Owe you one, many thanks.
dom_mitchell1 said:
Hi, in anticipation of getting hold of my Touch HD (when mobiles.co.uk eventually ships it on O2!) I'm been tinkering around with my Hermes.
I love the look of your S2U2 skin. I've tried to replicate it on my Hermes back down to 320x240 screen.
All seems to have worked ok except I can't get rid of the coloured overlay that S2U2 puts behind the clock. I've changed the background picture to be the one that I use across all devices (the nice blue sunray looking one from Windows 7) but it ends up with this semi-translucent bar with the clock figures and date in across the top half.
Which image file do I need to make transparent to make that go away?
Hope my post made sense.
I'll try and get some screen shots up to show what I mean.
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try this one, its the one i used on my Kaiser
machmandp said:
try this one, its the one i used on my Kaiser
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Thanks for that; after a bit f hacking around in photoshop I've got the look I wanted.
I've attached a .rar of my modified gfx folder along with a screenshot if anyone wants to use it.
Many thanks to both who helped me in this thread. Just got to do it to my HD when it arrives now!
gfx.rar available from my Skydrive:
http://cid-b6b1a627fbae21e5.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/gfx.rar
More Daft Questions...Sorry!
@machmandp - I have a little more time now so I'm going to have a play.
First off, I'm going to follow the Calendar hack to set up PI. Seems simple enough from the links you provided.
Then I'm going to look at linking PCM Contacts to the People Tab. How does that work for you? When you tap the contact picture does it link to the correct contact in PCM Contacts? Do the links to call or send SMS under the picture still function?
Lastly, I might give the Calendar Tab hack a go again. I followed the instructions quite carefully and am bothered that managed to lose my Programs tab. Did you copy the XML straight out of the original post? Did you mess around with the Page Order at all? Were you able to use the built in tab configurator to manipulate the tabs including the new calendar tab?
Hugely appreciate all your help so far - you've already made my day today with the fix for the PCM Contacts skin - and I'd immensely grateful for any more guidance you can offer.
Hi
Yes i copied the xml from the page but with the HD having an extra tab i put the number of the calendar page as 11 not 10
As regards to moving the tabs i had to use the diamond TF3d Configurator from the diamond forum, This works fine.
The link to Pocketcm is only for the All people softkey and not for any of the contacts but i find this works well
Hope that helps
machmandp said:
Hi
Yes i copied the xml from the page but with the HD having an extra tab i put the number of the calendar page as 11 not 10
As regards to moving the tabs i had to use the diamond TF3d Configurator from the diamond forum, This works fine.
The link to Pocketcm is only for the All people softkey and not for any of the contacts but i find this works well
Hope that helps
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Yes thanks, all begins to make sense now and I have the PI hack working nicely now. Did you remap the All People Softkey through SSMaPa too? Replacing POutlook.exe?
Where did you guys get that slide to unlock application with the HTC colours? is it in the skin imbeded?
The app is s2u2 by A_C (brilliant by the way)
the skin is from the first post of this thread for s2u2
iain.fraser said:
Yes thanks, all begins to make sense now and I have the PI hack working nicely now. Did you remap the All People Softkey through SSMaPa too? Replacing POutlook.exe?
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Yep poutlook.exe exactly the same way
Small update in the first post
Thumbcal WVGA Skin
Updated first post
calculator Skin
hi there.
i cooked my phone with Miri`s WM6.5 and tried to get more style from the TF3D using MAX TF3D theme maker
i used lots of components to try and make the BG4ALL to work
i also used other BG4ALL releases in this forum and nothing worked
just gos the title screen transparent, nothing works normally, the home screen appears broken, nothing is transparent and the icons in programs just look like they are behind a smoke curtain
can anybody supply a solution for this
in MAX TF3D the maker (used last version) the home components don`t work at all same problem, not even dutty`s.
cupidro said:
hi there.
i cooked my phone with Miri`s WM6.5 and tried to get more style from the TF3D using MAX TF3D theme maker
i used lots of components to try and make the BG4ALL to work
i also used other BG4ALL releases in this forum and nothing worked
just gos the title screen transparent, nothing works normally, the home screen appears broken, nothing is transparent and the icons in programs just look like they are behind a smoke curtain
can anybody supply a solution for this
in MAX TF3D the maker (used last version) the home components don`t work at all same problem, not even dutty`s.
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what version of miris do you use? he also have one with manila 2.5 and that would maybe be the problem
V22 with manila 2.1.38403.2
Install MaxTTM
Add one of the BG4All components from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4038398&postcount=839 to your MaxTTM/Components dir where you installed the app.
Run MaxTTM, select TF3D 2.1 Home Layout from the drop down list, select a BG4All layout you like and press 'Deploy'.
Close the TRefresh warning and press TRefresh button in bottom left.
Close MaxTTM and wait for TF3D to reload
Go to the settings tab and set a wallpaper
I'm not using Miri's rom, and he updates his manila version quicker than I can keep up... It is possible that a new layout might be needed to be made to work. However the version you're using is being used by other people who have no problems...
is it possible with manila 2.5 version to mke anything ?Maybe transparentslider or another tabicons...
thanks
kral1907 said:
is it possible with manila 2.5 version to mke anything ?Maybe transparentslider or another tabicons...
thanks
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Yep. I've started disassembling it and cataloguing what files do what. Mostly theyve just changed names, so you can rename older edits to work with it (tab icons etc). I'm loathe to work too hard on it as these are very early alpha builds - the final release might be completely different!
10x millski , that worked perfectly
Hi,
Figured out how to change icons on wm6.5 using registry. When I add a new quick link on manila today, I see the same png as in windows start menu. BUT: when I change a png file and do a SR start menu has new icon, and manila doesn't. Nothing helps - manila keeps the old version even if iI remove quick link and make it back - the old icon pops.
so, is there any icons cache or something I can clear to make my new icon appeared on Manila.
Thanks
sorry, i've found it by my self: /Application data/HTC/ProgLauncher/*.bmg....
hope, it'll be useful for somebody else too
cheers!
yeah... it helped me!
thought I was gonna have to HR to remove a nasty icon I'd assigned to my TomTom sw.
Cheers fella.
Well, after much effort, I was able to get Manila (TouchFlo) 2D installed and somewhat operable on my Samsung SCH-i760. I like it much better than the normal Today Screen for WM 6.1. The problems I have now are... well, I'll just list them below in order of importance (to me).
1. I cannot add any contacts in the "People" tab. When I slide over to the tab, there are the little icons with + signs on them like you're supposed to touch to create a new contact. The problem is when I touch one of those icons, all it does is highlight for like half a second.
2. I cannot add programs to the "Programs" tab. It's the exact same problem that I have with the "People" tab. I touch one of the icons with a plus sign on it, and it just highlights for a second.
3. I cannot change the skin no matter what I do! I have tried installing the .cab skins, and tried using M2DC with .m2dct skin files and it just won't work.
In case you're wondering, I am using mbarvian's patched Manila 2D v2.0 build 19171723 cab. And like I mentioned above, I am using a Samsung SCH-i760 with WM 6.1 Professional running.
Anyone with any insight or advice please let me know! I really appreciate it!
Thanks and God Bless!
Hannah4Evr
Post Cabs And Tweaks for the new Official AT&T Tilt 2 Rom That works and have been tested
RUU_Rhodium_S2_Cingular_US_2.10.502.4_Radio_Rhodium_4.49.25.95_Signed_Ship
"Only For HTC Tilt 2 Users"
INFO Link Here!
Example:
Name: Switch OFF GPRS (MoDaCo NoData).cab
Description: Disable the data/gsp, Switch OFF GPRS - MoDaCo NoData.cab
Name: 16 Quick Links 1922_R2.cab
Description: Increase the quicklinks on the home tab from 3/9 to 4/16
Name: People tab 4x4 WVGA v2.cab
Description: Increase the contact tab from 9 to 15
Name: Disable_Flip_WVGA_2.5.cab
Description: Disable the flip clock
This Thread Is only for Listing Cabs And Tweaks. Do Not Ask Question or Post Unrelated items. Start a new Thread for that Please. Thanks.
The latest version of .NET Compact.
Call history tab (turn off HTC Sense before installing)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=281163&d=1266226588
These reg tweaks should work.
here
I followed the new facebook tab directions and used the manually method and it works perfectly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651007
So I am running the new AT&T ROM with the:
facebook tab added
call history tab added
manila TV Tab added
I added the anastasia icons for the taskbar and the slider (had to mod one file because the slider overlay doesnt look right out of the box)
I played with cookies home tab 1.7.1 but its chewing up 5MB of ram so I am going to look at taking it apart and getting just what I need out of it.
CABS:
.Net framework 3.5 ( will use 3.7 next time from above)
HTC CAB task manager
Slide to shutdown
swype
rhodiumkbdcontrol
QM_TP2_Battery_Update_T-Mobile_USA
All in all VERY close to the cooked ROM I have been using and 80MB free RAM so its quite snappy.
I will post back the info to add the tabs later with a copy of the manila layout file for each one and combos.
hx4700 Killer said:
I played with cookies home tab 1.7.1 but its chewing up 5MB of ram so I am going to look at taking it apart and getting just what I need out of it.
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If you figure out how to get two calendar rows and a notification bar on the home screen let me know.
robseargeant said:
If you figure out how to get two calendar rows and a notification bar on the home screen let me know.
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Will do. Right now I am looking at cooking in all the apps I mentioned above in to the stock AT&T ROM and making the settings changes I referred to as well as XDA_UC/mortscript.
For the cookie stuff I'm sure it will come down to modifying the script so that it ONLY does what I want with no variables read from the registry. Ideally it will be the "mini" (I think its called) flip clock with weather, notification and calendar.
I played with Just the 4x4 shortcuts fix and my ram useage went up 1.2MB just from that change. Cookie was actually eating up 7 MB I hadn't waited long enough after the reboot to let it settle.
hx4700 Killer said:
I played with Just the 4x4 shortcuts fix and my ram useage went up 1.2MB just from that change.
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Are you saying that this new ROM has 3 icon columns and not 4 as my current stock ROM does? Why would AT$T do that?
Earlier I promised the manila layout files for the 3 tabs I added. Manila TV, Recent Calls and Facebook.
These instructions are provided as is. I take no credit for "figuring anything out" I am just reposting from my experience here for the benefit of others.
Go and download the following:
Facebook: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5959226&postcount=1
Scroll down and get: MeltwaterFbTabv1.5Release15July2010.zip (he has a GTX skinned one if that is your preference)
Manila TV: [urlhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534185][/url]
It has a cab file for "Cookers" I can attach what I have but I don't have permission. I unpacked that stuff with WinCE Cab Manager (30 day trial)and added "USA" streams I got out of the thread so I can just copy some files, delete a couple things that get recreated (more on that later) and its running fine.
Recent Calls: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5464566&postcount=2 Scroll to the bottom for DL links, Again I used WinCE Cab manager to extract and all I had to do was copy. I hated the way it looked though so I then extracted file from a cooked ROM that I liked the look of and copied out all the manila files with the same name to my phone and it looks nice now.
Download the above and the appropriate manila layout file below. Turn off Sense, copy the files to your device then delete manilafull.xml in the windows folder and the ENTIRE reg key HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration (The configuration key). Restart manila and the tabs should show up.
Anyway, here are the manila files for the tabs just remove anything int he name past the DASH and the .TXT at the end too! (DISCLAIMER!! ONLY FOR THE NEW AT&T Sense 2.5 ROM I guarnantee NOTHING outside of it):
Miami_Son said:
Are you saying that this new ROM has 3 icon columns and not 4 as my current stock ROM does? Why would AT$T do that?
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It is no different than an energy "standard" rom. The home screen is 3 X 3 on the quicklinks.
hx4700 Killer said:
It is no different than an energy "standard" rom. The home screen is 3 X 3 on the quicklinks.
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OK, I'm not talking about the Quicklinks, that's a Sense 2.5 feature. I'm talking about the Start menu arrangement. In an earlier screenshot it showed the icons in 3 icon columns, not 4, which is what I have now.
Also, you said in your previous post to remove everything past the dash in the filenames. What you really mean is everything after the underline. A dash=this -, an underline=this _. Don't want anyone to be confused.
Miami_Son said:
OK, I'm not talking about the Quicklinks, that's a Sense 2.5 feature. I'm talking about the Start menu arrangement. In an earlier screenshot it showed the icons in 3 icon columns, not 4, which is what I have now.
Also, you said in your previous post to remove everything past the dash in the filenames. What you really mean is everything after the underline. A dash=this -, an underline=this _. Don't want anyone to be confused.
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Wow, tired. I just re-read your post. Yes the start button is 4 columns.
I meant the DASH... the word manila is after the underline and needs to be there
Holy CRAP... I have the stock rom stripped of all AT&T parts except 1 and I am running 50% ram utilized in the ROM I just built and it HAS Sense 2.5!
No offense intended to the other chefs out there but how the EFF... can a joe schmoe like me, on my first day cooking a ROM achieve this and the roms out there are running 60% to 70% ?!?! I even cooked in Resco 10 (I own it) and the HTC task manager!
I HAVENT even stripped out the devices and services that I normally would! When I do that I get 48% RAM used or 98MB Free?!
EDIT: Changed type of sense 6.5 to 2.5
hx4700 Killer said:
Holy CRAP... I have the stock rom stripped of all AT&T parts except 1 and I am running 50% ram utilized in the ROM I just built and it HAS Sense 6.5!
No offense intended to the other chefs out there but how the EFF... can a joe schmoe like me, on my first day cooking a ROM achieve this and the roms out there are running 60% to 70% ?!?! I even cooked in Resco 10 (I own it) and the HTC task manager!
I HAVENT even stripped out the devices and services that I normally would! When I do that I get 48% RAM used or 98MB Free?!
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You obviously have access to a Sense version no one else has.
Attached the Dutty's task manager that so many recommend (and then didn't point to).
I did the regedit to re-enable tethering on the MEdia net plan I'm grandfathered into:
HKLM\Comm\InternetSharing\ForceCellConnection change to "MEdia Net"
--haven't tested thoroughly yet to make sure it stays connected and doesn't change on reboot.
(I installed Total Commander for regedits, you want the ARM version, by the way--anytime you get a choice like that.)
Those have been good improvements, though just putting task manager into the quicklinks and using it to 'end all' once in a while also works fine (as opposed to Dutty's, which gives you back the menu in the upper right to close/switch between things). I also put Contacts into quicklinks and turned off the people tab.
I was new to the quicklinks and it took me forever to figure out how to get rid of icons I didn't want (like facebook), till somebody pointed out the MENU softkey (probably where contacts used to be) at the bottom of the screen. Also lets you remove tabs you don't want (like ATT and Twitter). I also changed the background to get rid of the weather BS (hit animated backgrounds, then album, there was a black diamond plate one in there I used, but you can browse to anything if you switch album to all).
The disable clock flip cab, disable SMS sent notification cab, and then installing .net (then reboot) then installing and running crud scraper were other critical improvements I've made. The 16 quicklinks cab was also nice to have (shrinks the quicklinks to show 4 on home page, 16 if you slide up). These files are all linked in the first page of this thread I believe.
One more tweak I find essential is making it so you can record a voice memo (where I parked, for example) by pressing and holding the PTT button (the otherwise useless to most button under volume rocker on side). You can do this in File Manager or Total commander, go find record.lnk in \Windows (will take a minute to open this location, there's lots in there) and copy it to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Tools. Once it's anywhere in the start menu you can assign it to the PTT in the standard 'buttons' control panel. Press and release launches Notes (to play back voicenotes), press and hold records as long as you hold.
Also guys, is there a way to keep this thread as clean as possible so that people just wanting to update from stock to a better stock and then fix a few things don't have to wade through pedantic conversations about Sense versions, etc? Not to be *****y, just trying to keep it as noobie friendly as possible in this one thread.
If we could shrink the clock and add a second line in the calendar on the sense home page this would be perfect. Either way I am still using it.
With stock Sense (Facebook tab added) I can boot it up, lock it, open HTC Messenger, open opera, open calendar, then run cleanRAM and be at 60%. Thank you.
robseargeant said:
If we could shrink the clock and add a second line in the calendar on the sense home page this would be perfect. Either way I am still using it.
With stock Sense (Facebook tab added) I can boot it up, lock it, open HTC Messenger, open opera, open calendar, then run cleanRAM and be at 60%. Thank you.
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Yeah I am working on that soon. I want the cooke home tab basics withot the bloat too. probably keep in a 4 x 4 shortcut menu too.
I have been spending my time learning about and building my own ROM based off of this with the apps *I* want in it and without AT&T's wasted space stuff. Google maps, shake & save, resco explorer, resco photo manager, swype, ,net 3.5, slide to shutdown, facebook tab, recent calls tab, manila TV tab! .... too long to list, about 15 apps. I have the recent docs tab working and I want to get the erader going correctly and perhaps tackle footprints before finishing adding to manila.
I know you post on NRG's threads as have I. The fact is the guy writes for a LEO, doesnt even own a rhodium device, and while I LOVE his ROM I hate the fact that my phone runs like a turd with it. Having stripped down this ROM of AT&T bloat and done some memopry tweaking out of the box it boots to 92MB free. Configured its in the high 80's. If I scroll through all the sense tabs from there its around 68-72 MB free. It is SMOOTH. It may not be the latest and greatest but it is stable as hell, doesnt freeze and isnt flakey at all, everything works!
I have just been going through fixing the things I have added to clear up some graphics issues because the add ins overwrite some manila or DLL files.
I even have the Anastasia (dinik on NRG ROM) slider and taskbar. However I learned with NO taskbar icons I save nearly 10MB. so I am going to compare to stock icons and see if I can optimize the gfx for size to make it smaller and trim that space used down some more.
I don't know if you read my post on the NRG thread but there is a way to clear out the start menu itsms and their icons/PNG files that make them look nice and I had at one point unconfigured 109MB free!! Yes, more FREE ram than USED! It was outragious to me that it was even possible.
Which version of TotalCommander is the right one for our phones ?
BSB Tweaks is a Must! Need Net CF with it to work..on first page.
Along with google maps and maybe youtube.
I like MSN Instant Messaging, which isn't on the stock Windows Live, but on this one.