Tethering and using a Router... - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Just wanted to know if it's possible to use my wireless router (linksys wrt54gs) while I'm tethered....don't even know where to start...
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Thanks

dlkj said:
Just wanted to know if it's possible to use my wireless router (linksys wrt54gs) while I'm tethered....don't even know where to start...
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Thanks
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I think we'll need some more info to be able to help, not entirely sure what you're trying to figure out...
Are you wanting to know if your computer will still be able to connect to your router for internet access when your phone is connected to the computer at the same time with the USB cable?

sirphunkee said:
I think we'll need some more info to be able to help, not entirely sure what you're trying to figure out...
Are you wanting to know if your computer will still be able to connect to your router for internet access when your phone is connected to the computer at the same time with the USB cable?
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yes, I think that's exactly what I'm asking...do I need to hook my phone directly up to the router with some kind of adapter, or can I just mess with network settings in windows 7 and get it to work?
Thanks

i think he possibly means use his phones internet for the router. so other computers can connect to the phones internet. not sure. need more info
if thats what you want to do you can use ur phone itself as a router
theres a app you can use heres the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538874

dlkj said:
yes, I think that's exactly what I'm asking...do I need to hook my phone directly up to the router with some kind of adapter, or can I just mess with network settings in windows 7 and get it to work?
Thanks
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you do know what tethering is right? when you tether you use your phones internet for the computer. so why would you want to tether AND use your internet with the router?

Maybe I'm just asking wrong, just want to be able to use my wireless router like normal, I have my main computer tethered for internet, but I want to use my laptop or xbox to get online like if I had regular internet...

dlkj said:
Maybe I'm just asking wrong, just want to be able to use my wireless router like normal, I have my main computer tethered for internet, but I want to use my laptop or xbox to get online like if I had regular internet...
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so. to clarify. you dont have regular internet and you want to use your phone just like if you had regular internet? for ALL devices in your house at the same time?
i think it is possible. im not 100% sure. and i dont think you can use your normal router. because your computer would have to act as a dsl/cable modem
i have something that MIGHT work. and i also have win 7. ill try a few things out and see if i can get something to work for you.
ALSO as a side note. i dont recommend using your phone for so many connections because most networks have a 5GB/mo limit. and i dont think it would be best for gaming because of high latency of 3g.

Ok, thanks...I was thinking that about the x-box, that 3g might be too slow, but wanted to try anyway...I do at least want to get my router working though...I did try to call linksys and get support but my router is not covered anymore...
also, what about using that app you recommended...will x-box live recognize that?

ok so i just tried connecting my computer which does not have a wireless card. and my laptop. it can only eeither support multipul wireless connections. or 1 wired connection
the app that i mentioned works well with my laptop it has the same distance as a regular router as far as i can tell.
im not sure if it works with xbox. i see no reason why it shouldnt, but ill try it out.
so basicly you CANT use your router
you can make it all wireless so your laptop xbox any anything else can connect
OR you can have it wired to where only your computer connected
(but i just thought of something you can do that might work so you can use your router. you could possibly bridge your connections imma try it out)

if you figure it out maybe give me some instructions...I really appreciate your help...

dkdontforget said:
ok so i just tried connecting my computer which does not have a wireless card. and my laptop. it can only eeither support multipul wireless connections. or 1 wired connection
the app that i mentioned works well with my laptop it has the same distance as a regular router as far as i can tell.
im not sure if it works with xbox. i see no reason why it shouldnt, but ill try it out.
so basicly you CANT use your router
you can make it all wireless so your laptop xbox any anything else can connect
OR you can have it wired to where only your computer connected
(but i just thought of something you can do that might work so you can use your router. you could possibly bridge your connections imma try it out)
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ok the thing i thought didnt work. but the xbox works JUST FINE. i havent tested it on any games cus my xbox is banned :X but i dont thinks its to slow. its just say you shoot at someone. a few sec later they get hit. just not instantly
so wireless works fine for all devices. just not your main computer. sorry. i cant find anything that works for your main computer and wireless. and in not sure if theres just an adapter you can buy (if there is that would be awesome)

dlkj said:
if you figure it out maybe give me some instructions...I really appreciate your help...
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cant really figure it out. but as far as the wireless goes just download the app and install it. run it. and push start and your good

dkdontforget said:
cant really figure it out. but as far as the wireless goes just download the app and install it. run it. and push start and your good
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ok, thanks...i guess using my phone as a router accomplishes the same thing I was looking to do anyway...so thanks for your help

Kind of clunky but still may work.
Tether to main PC.
Set Ethernet card on main PC to ICS, Internet connection sharing.
Connect Ethernet card to WAN Port on Router.
You may need a cross-over cable.
Point Router Wan connection to IP address of Ethernet card.
Set router IP internal addresses to something other than 192.168.0.xx, such as 10.0.0.1-xxxxxx or other to avoid double NAT.
All the rest inside the router is the regular router stuff.
Other guy may have come up with a Win7 solution already.
This is how I would start with WinXP.

nycny said:
Kind of clunky but still may work.
Tether to main PC.
Set Ethernet card on main PC to ICS, Internet connection sharing.
Connect Ethernet card to WAN Port on Router.
You may need a cross-over cable.
Point Router Wan connection to IP address of Ethernet card.
All the rest inside the router is the regular router stuff.
Other guy may have come up with a Win7 solution already.
This is how I would start with WinXP.
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imma try doing what you suggested on my win7 comp.
is there any other details you can add? im going to do it myself and see what the results are

dkdontforget said:
imma try doing what you suggested on my win7 comp.
is there any other details you can add? im going to do it myself and see what the results are
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Kind of needing to know where you are with setup now b4 offering any advice.
PM me and maybe we could set up chat/voice connection.
I use Skype.

ok i followed steps on a few sites all tell basically the same thing but when i do that everything works fine EXCEPT my computer dont want to use the phone as the primary device its still trying to use the Ethernet card
( i tired that on my XP comp)
now with windows 7 there is NO luck whatsoever
it wont even recognize the devices if i want to set it up
so i guess the closing answer is use the WIFI sharing app that i posted a link to and just use that as a router
if there is any app or in depth details on how to set it up please tell. to help him out. and for future reference
there possibly is a way just not with my card/OS if you have any luck let me know

dkdontforget said:
ok i followed steps on a few sites all tell basically the same thing but when i do that everything works fine EXCEPT my computer dont want to use the phone as the primary device its still trying to use the Ethernet card
( i tired that on my XP comp)
now with windows 7 there is NO luck whatsoever
it wont even recognize the devices if i want to set it up
so i guess the closing answer is use the WIFI sharing app that i posted a link to and just use that as a router
if there is any app or in depth details on how to set it up please tell. to help him out. and for future reference
See post after
there possibly is a way just not with my card/OS if you have any luck let me know
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Let WinXP computer be the bridging device. It needs to stay on for ICS to work.
Then Xbox, Win7, and others will be on same network for sharing of files.

is Original Poster still with this?
???
We others have been going around this for a bit.

I have seen a linux variation used as a firewall/router
I have seen a linux variation used as a firewall/router.
If a machine could be crafted to connect to WINMO or other device through USB or other port as an internet modem to the machine which acts as a router, how cool would that be?

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How can I share my 3G with wifi?

Can some one tell me how to share my 3G connection over wifi? I need to make the phone as a portable access point.
no can do.
Bluetooth or USB
Try hitchhiker it's free! but I'm not sure if it works for sharing using 3G... try it and let me know http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/
No, It doesn't support to share the 3G connection.
So use Internet sharing over BT ?
Would like to use it as a wireless access point, so I can get access from computer and iPhone, seem like I have hard time to find a solution.
share the connection with the PC by USB. Put a wifi stick/pcicard in the PC and bridge the connections, then the iFoon can have 3G too
Maarten_NL said:
share the connection with the PC by USB. Put a wifi stick/pcicard in the PC and bridge the connections, then the iFoon can have 3G too
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you got this to work?
or are you saying it should work?
i have tried to share a connection this way but have had no luck when using internet connection sharing/pan.
i did get it to work this way back in the day when the phone ran wm5 and had dun.
do you have any pointers on how to get internet connection sharing in wm6 to let more than one device connect to the 3g connection?
acem77 said:
you got this to work?
or are you saying it should work?
i have tried to share a connection this way but have had no luck when using internet connection sharing/pan.
i did get it to work this way back in the day when the phone ran wm5 and had dun.
do you have any pointers on how to get internet connection sharing in wm6 to let more than one device connect to the 3g connection?
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seems like you may need an app on your pc to manage/route the connections not sure if this helps but you can try "network Magic" it give you a bit more options on the pc side for managing connections. would like to see where this goes for possible future applications. i'll give it a try when i have some free time and check with an comp tek friend of mine see what he thinks.
Yeah it sucks that no one has created a way to share the wifi connection just like we share bluetooth or usb.
We also need a proxy server that we can run on our phone.
ok, for me the boring part is the time of the connection, you can share via wifi by just turning on your internet sharing in whatever the pc connection, you just need to manually deffine your hermes wifi to 192.168.0.1 and it shares via internet sharing! The question here is that the connections stops after 10 minutes becouse of the warnig "check usb cable connection". Its very irritating to have to start connection every 10 min. !!!!!
awww...iPhones not fast enough Data-Wise for ya?
thought it was supposed to "revolutionize PDA Phones"
hah.
sorry, i had to add my 2ยข against Apple.
Beware, some mobile provider allready use NAT, thus you'll recieve a non-routable IP. I am not sure that you will be able to share a connection of this kind.

Turn any windows mobile into WIFI router

This application lets you use your phone as WIFI router without setting up anything in device. Let me if you guys like it.
This application has its own thread here on XDA-Developers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357152. Don't really see the point of you posting the CAB here.. without all the information needed.
Well this message, in the wrong place, introduced me to your excellent application!
thank you
How do you turn off this wifirouter?? i got it working and works fine although i cant get my archos gen 5 to pick it up but i tuned it off but my computer still picks it up although it cnt connect to it
the app is connected but i am not connected to the internet on my laptop...any answers? i tried resetting a bunch of times
is it the trial version or the real thing? is there a free way of doing it.. does it work for windows 5
infrastructure mode?
is there a way to broadcast in infrastructure mode, instead of ad hoc? i would love to use a zune hd with this, but it is not able to see ad hoc networks. thanks.
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the SSID is not showing up in my computer. All others (mine and my neighbors wireless connections) are showing up.
How to get my playstation 3 2 work with this router
Hi i am so damn frusterated right now with this. How do i get my ps3 to work with this router thing. My computer connects to it and recieves wifi. But when i try to find it with my ps3 it wont detect it. Does any one know how do i get this 2 work.
try this
1. connect ur trinity to ur laptop / pc via USB and run "internet sharing" on your trinity.
2. Set up an Ad-Hoc connection on your PC / Laptop and directly connect ur PS3 to it.
3. In network settings on your PC / Laptop click the ad-hoc connection icon and the windows mobile based device icon (Ctrl-Left click each one) right click one of them when their both selected and click on bridge connection from the drop down menu.
this method's a bit of a potch to set up but once its running it works perfectly and you only have to set it up once. it also lets you use the internet on your pc and ps3 at the same time.
I'm pretty late to this and NEW (newbie), but I wanted to make a quick post about it's use on my Imagio winmo 6.5 OS 5.2.21... no mods, no roms burned and this works perfectly. Now I can surf at work without the assistance of our helpful IT friends LOL.
rhino13 said:
Hi i am so damn frusterated right now with this. How do i get my ps3 to work with this router thing. My computer connects to it and recieves wifi. But when i try to find it with my ps3 it wont detect it. Does any one know how do i get this 2 work.
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Your laptop or pc picks up adhoc signals aswell as infrastructure, to be quiet honest, this app is very useless when advertised as a router, doesn't route anything if just limited to adhoc, adhoc = computer to computer connections, not a router to me at all! Its a very nice app for many other things though.. I see someone giving you instructions for 'ICS' doing all that just makes it all pointless and you may aswell just get a home router connected to house line!
This is one of my favourite apps. I've been using it for a long time now and just awesome.
ppatel223 said:
This application lets you use your phone as WIFI router without setting up anything in device. Let me if you guys like it.
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Really love this app. Only problem is that it worked great the first time I launched it. Now it can't connect. It just keeps on cycling trying to connect to att gprs and finally says "the remote party has ended this connection". Any ideas?
hdhodges said:
Really love this app. Only problem is that it worked great the first time I launched it. Now it can't connect. It just keeps on cycling trying to connect to att gprs and finally says "the remote party has ended this connection". Any ideas?
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It sounds like possibly your connection settings have been erased. Can you get internet in Explorer, etc? If so, please disregard this...
how do i load it in my phone
thanks for the share , can you explain how the procedure works , I want to create applications like these but still don't understand their concept
Closing as this is a duplicate thread for this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357152

Question - Can you tether a Wifi connection from your Phone to your PC

Hello, I have been searching around for a day and a half now to no avail. I figure I will ask here as a last attempt before I go and buy another USB wifi adapter.
I am trying to use my HTC Dash with WM6.5 to tether an available wifi connection over to my Windows 7 PC. Basically trying to use the phone as a wifi adapter. The phone has no cell data service, but can connect to the home wifi network that is here. My Windows 7 PC has no Wifi adapter (I left it behind >.<).
Here is where I am at. The HTC Dash is connected to the Wifi network, and when I try to select a Network in the ICS program, it says there is none available. I have been able to get USB selected in ICS, and the phone connected to the computer. In Windows I see a Windows Mobile Remote Adapter in the Network Connections area when I sync the device in Windows Mobile Center. But no matter what I try, ICS sharing on the phone will not let me select the Wifi connection it has.
Through my searching I have found a lot of information on tethering 2G and 3G internet through USB, and using the phone as a Wifi Hotspot. But those where no help in this.
My friend on a G1 with Andriod can tether Wifi connections to a pc, and I am wondering if Windows Mobile can do the same thing. I can flash my ROM from to 6.0 or 6.1 WM if needed.
Thanks in advance to any advice given, hopefully someone can help me out
UPDATE: Still have no luck. I found a program called ICS Control v.21, but it only works on touchscreen WM phones, not WM standard. Which means a bunch of crashing.
This program would do exactally what I need it to do... just does not support my phone. Well the search continues... looking like I may just have to go buy an USB Wifi adapter soon.
tethering w/wifi
It does work. I'm currently answering this on my 2nd desktop Vista with my S620 via my home wifi network. Waiting for a 25' ethernet connector to hardware to wifi/modem Not quite sure how it is with a wifi adapter but 2 things I do know from experience. You shouldn't need an adapter.
1st: you can't be in Sync Center while trying to tether, at least in my case on a Vista desktop. It won't let you tether while the sync is running (or your already synced).
2nd: (this worked for me) open internet sharing on your Dash/S620, pc connection-usb and be ready to hit connect the 1st couple of seconds after pluging your usb connector into your phone, and give it 10-20 seconds to actually connect. If you wait to long to hit connect, the phone will start syncing with the computer. Won't let you tether.
RE-read post, missed thar "WinMo" remote part. My bad. Don't own Win 7. Don't know what that is.
Question: Is there an active wifi where you are ? From your post it sounds like "yes"
You do not need a wifi adapter. You do need a USB cord.
I tethered with edge for a bit, but then got to thinking. Try Wifi. It worked, but be quick.
Neither one is super fast but Wifi is definitely faster than Edge. Better than not being on the net at all. Occasionally it'll cut out, just unplug usb, get to connect screen, plug in and hit connect. Should be set.
As a side note: I also tried tethering with G1. Xferd pc driver to Vista from G1 but computer says it can't find the driver. Gave up after 2 hours.
G1 tethering works great on XP though.
Hope this helps. Good Luck. Really cool when it works.
Are you using a wifi tether or just usb?
If wifi, what program/version are you using and where did you get it? I got the ICS usb tether working, but my version of wmwifirouter.cab won't even install on the dash. cheers
ee.mike said:
Are you using a wifi tether or just usb?
If wifi, what program/version are you using and where did you get it? I got the ICS usb tether working, but my version of wmwifirouter.cab won't even install on the dash. cheers
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I'll have to break out the Dash again and let you know. It's been sitting for weeks since I repaired LCD screen and flashed my TMO Wing. Can't seem to stop playing with it.
Give me a little time and I'll get back to you.
You do have a wifi modem, correct ? I was using usb.
Right, just to be clear, my goal is to set up my Dash to receive it's edge data and transmit that out as a wifi signal that my laptop will pick up and connect to the internet. No USB connection. I'm getting an ipad eventually and this is all to avoid that stupid 3g garbage they're hawking.
I tried a program called wmwifirouter.cab but was unsuccessful. An ad-hoc wifi network was created by my phone and my laptop was connected to it but couldn't connect to the internet. And my phone kept crashing.
Any ideas? Thanks
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Right, just to be clear, my goal is to set up my Dash to receive it's edge data and transmit that out as a wifi signal that my laptop will pick up and connect to the internet. No USB connection. I'm getting an ipad eventually and this is all to avoid that stupid 3g garbage they're hawking.
I tried a program called wmwifirouter.cab but was unsuccessful. An ad-hoc wifi network was created by my phone and my laptop was connected to it but couldn't connect to the internet. And my phone kept crashing.
Any ideas? Thanks
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Well, in your case, I won't be any help. What I did was run a 2nd computer off of my Dash with a Wifi Modem.
XP in another room with a wifi modem attached on Comcast, Dash on wifi and usb to Vista computer, since I didn't have a 25ft ethernet cable at the time.
Was running Vista-Dash-wifi modem-XP to comcast so I could run 2nd computer without being hard wired.
I'm familiar with wifirouter cab. It let's you use your phone like a hotspot, correct ?
In all my searches for various things for the phones, I thought I saw a different application that did the same thing. Possibly might even have it. I'll check and upload for ya if I find it. Have hundreds of cabs/zips to search. Let you know.
Possibly google it and you might find it yourself. There's a program called: WalkingHotSpot online for $24.99 if you don't mind spending. Dash isn't listed as a supported windows device but looking at the other phones listed my guess would be it should work. Try their DEMO version, see if it works.
Good Luck.......
2AM and I was just wondering......When you received your phone, you also got a usb cable with it, right ?
Why don't you just usb Dash to laptop and use "internet sharing" ????
My plan is to set this up for an iPad, which doesn't allow internet access over a USB cable, so USB tethering is out, has to be wifi.
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My plan is to set this up for an iPad, which doesn't allow internet access over a USB cable, so USB tethering is out, has to be wifi.
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Do you have a home computer ? If so, get yourself a Wifi Modem and set up a home network. $40-60. Although Comcast sold me mine for $20 and I get to keep it. I can get all 5 phones on the internet at the same time, not that I need to. It'll also be so much faster then running thru Edge. Besides the fact video's don't play for crap tethered running through Edge. Just a suggestion.
My opinion stands concerning Apple. Get ready to cough up more fees for internet (ATT). They're doing away with unlimited data. Did you see their prices ?
You'll never catch me with ATT.
I just put WMWifiRouter on my TMO Wing 6.5. let you know how it worked. Setup went fine, so far.
did you try downloading the actual .cab from WMWIFIROUTER.COM it's only a trial for 21 days, the "Free" versions don't work on the dash i've tried many of them.
once you install and get it set up be sure to write down the Access ID and Password it gives you so you can connect to the WiFi signal beaming from your phone from your PC. It works for me to tether a WiFi connection from my Dash to PC though I prefer the more stable Internet Sharing USB to PC and I have an Unlimited Data Plan.
WMWIFIROUTER also lets you tether a connection from your phone via bbluetooth.
I use WMWiFiRouter and its a life saver. It lets you pretty much tether any connection to any other.
Just yesterday I was at a meeting in a resturant with some clients and used it to hook my netbook to the internet and used bluetooth as the connection to the phone. Yes, Internet Sharing can do that, but it has alot more it can do too.
You can use Bluetooth, USB (it shows up as a USB modem), or even set it up as a WiFi Router.
Very cool program and it works perfectly on the Dash. I love it.
I never tried the trial version. A friend of mine showed it to me, so I just bought it. It's under $20. Well worth it if you run into that situation often.

Desire to use PC's internet

Is there anyway I can have my desire use my PC's internet when it is connected via usb?
At this stage I dont have wifi at work and cant use that method.
Essentially I want to reverse the direction of tethering when the phone is connected to my computer.
Thanks, Dean
Unfortunately, reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's Internet connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which is quite annoying. It would be nice if this type of feature, although highly unlikely, could be incorporated an upcoming ROM update for example.
That is annoying, especially since I could do this with my old WM - although thanks for the reply and info.
I wonder if it could be done through an app perhaps.
Cheers, Dean
dwphoto said:
That is annoying, especially since I could do this with my old WM - although thanks for the reply and info.
I wonder if it could be done through an app perhaps.
Cheers, Dean
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Yes it's extremely annoying. I had this on my HD and HD2, but i really don't know why HTC could not incorporate this with the Desire. Afterall, it's a desirable (excuse pun) feature.
it has nothing to do with your phone, since it all depends on the host computer. On mac: you can do it easily by sharing your internet connection in system preferences.
MasDroid said:
Unfortunately, reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's Internet connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which is quite annoying. It would be nice if this type of feature, although highly unlikely, could be incorporated an upcoming ROM update for example.
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maybe i misunderstood you, but its perfectly possible to make an adhoc wifi network, and connect to the internet on your desire
pina_ said:
it has nothing to do with your phone, since it all depends on the host computer. On mac: you can do it easily by sharing your internet connection in system preferences.
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it has everything to do with your phone. If the phone has no interface for it, it won't work.
Can't say whether it works or not, just saying that it does not depend solely on your computer
ziao said:
maybe i misunderstood you, but its perfectly possible to make an adhoc wifi network, and connect to the internet on your desire
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I dont think so ... I have tried and also read that it doesnot work!
rackspace said:
I dont think so ... I have tried and also read that it doesnot work!
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odd, because i use it nearly everyday
So does this mean I can do it or not ?
Do I need and ad-hoc wifi network - what exactly is this ?
Thanks
dwphoto said:
So does this mean I can do it or not ?
Do I need and ad-hoc wifi network - what exactly is this ?
Thanks
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If your computer has a wifi card (laptops usually do, desktops don't) you can create a local network and connect your desire to it.
No idea if it's possible over a wire
You don't need to create an ad-hoc network, just download connectify and use it as a hotspot on your laptop, then connect the Desire to the hotspot you just created and that's it.
neur0x said:
You don't need to create an ad-hoc network, just download connectify and use it as a hotspot on your laptop, then connect the Desire to the hotspot you just created and that's it.
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Ahh that is handy!
Thanks for the tip
I created an adhoc network following this: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/adhoc.mspx
The host laptop itself can see the adhoc network, but desire cannot.
Any ideas?
Maybe I'm wrong but AFAIK Desire can't 'see' ad-hoc networks, only access points. You can get internet from PC, but only using Connectify under Windows 7 or by using advanced magic under Linux.
Am I right or something has changed lately?
BTW: does anybody share internet from Linux? Any suggestions?
As far as i know, you can only see an ad-hoc network if you have the desire rooted and change some files somewhere (can't remember which ones...), either way the next best thing is to use some kind of software that creates an Wifi Access Point.
I don't get it: why would you want to connect to the internet via your PC instead of directly connecting to your WiFi router ?
Maybe when you only have a LAN-connection?
Or Maybe when your in Work and only have a Lan Setup
and want to access / download things on your phone,
Reverse USB tethering would be AMAZING!!!!!
Flaggie said:
Maybe when you only have a LAN-connection?
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Stupid me, just hadn't realized that still not everyone has a WiFi capable router nowadays...
The problem with ad-hoc internet sharing is that your host PC still needs a WiFi connection. You can't use internet through USB. I've tried it yesterday at work (yes, for the Froyo update ), but no succes.
Having a smartphone in a country with high mobile data costs is like having a Ferrari to do your local grocery shopping Fortunately I'll have unlimited mobile internet next week. So I can finally use my Desire as intended.

[Q] Fire TV Wirless/Hotspot

Hi, I currently have my FTV connected to my router using a wired connection. I tried to make a wireless hotspot using FTV by using the Wifi Tether Router app. It works fine. I can see the access point and I can connect my laptop and my IPhone to it and surf the internet without any issues.
The problem starts when I connect FTV to my router using the build in wireless card. At this point, if I enable the router (through the app), it disconnects my outgoing wireless connection from FTV to my outside router. The hotspot is ON and working, I can connect to it fine with my laptop, but of course, its useless as there is no outside connection.
My question is, is this possible? Using the internal wireless infrastructure in FTV to both act as a software router (through the app or any other app) and also use it for my outgoing connection to the WAN. Can it do both simultaneously? If possible, does anyone have any suggested settings for this app (Wifi Tether Router)
If no one has any experience with this app, is there other app that makes this possible, paid or free? Thanks.
You only have one radio which can either be used as a client or access point.. But not both at the same time.
This works on phones as it uses the GSM or CDMA radio for the wan and the WiFi for lan.
Ok, thanks. If it helps, I have a USB hub connected to FTV. My wireless keyboard and mouse combo is hooked to that and works. I have a Wireless USB adapter from CompUSA (the kind you plug into a desktop to get wireless capability) which I can use by attaching to the USB hub. Can that somehow be used to accomplish this? I know I can always buy a Wifi as WAN router like CradlePoint, but curious if this can be done through FTV.
Edit: In a way, the next logical question is, can an external USB wireless adapter be used with FTV for its outgoing WAN? If so, how? I have the StickMount loaded and I can browse through another storage USB through ES File Manager. Probably not related, but thats the setup I have now.
dbdoshi said:
Ok, thanks. If it helps, I have a USB hub connected to FTV. My wireless keyboard and mouse combo is hooked to that and works. I have a Wireless USB adapter from CompUSA (the kind you plug into a desktop to get wireless capability) which I can use by attaching to the USB hub. Can that somehow be used to accomplish this? I know I can always buy a Wifi as WAN router like CradlePoint, but curious if this can be done through FTV.
Edit: In a way, the next logical question is, can an external USB wireless adapter be used with FTV for its outgoing WAN? If so, how? I have the StickMount loaded and I can browse through another storage USB through ES File Manager. Probably not related, but thats the setup I have now.
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Doubt there are drivers for a USB WiFi dongle.
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which tethering app did you use exactly?
The Wifi Tether Router. I can't post links yet.
dbdoshi said:
Edit: In a way, the next logical question is, can an external USB wireless adapter be used with FTV for its outgoing WAN? .
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This is what I'd try. I'd look to see if other Android STBs can run an external wireless card and if so, try to find the cheapest one with the same wifi chipset.
The problem is going to be in telling the OS to use one adapter for uplink and one for hotspot duty. In theory it's possible, in practice - well, keep the cost of the second dongle below 30 bucks and tell us your findings.
Here's a device some Ouya folks use http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B007CO5DZ4
that link is to the refurb, new they're just north of 50. Here's a similar one that goes new for 25-35
http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
Basically, you configure it (connected to a PC) then you connect the device to the ethernet port on your fireTV, it acts as a bridge to the wifi network over the ethernet, so potentially you could then use the wifi onboard as your access point.
Probably you could, actually - you've described doing just that already but using a whole cable run, right?
IMHO if your gonna drop $ might as well by an access point.. They can be had for cheap and you won't be tying up your firetv handling network traffic.
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Probably you could, actually - you've described doing just that already but using a whole cable run, right?
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Thanks for the suggestions, I will give it a shot in the near future.
I am sorry, I missed the last line, don't understand what you are saying there... Thanks.
dbdoshi said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will give it a shot in the near future.
I am sorry, I missed the last line, don't understand what you are saying there... Thanks.
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Just that in your initial post, you describe running ethernet to your fire and also getting the wifi to work as a hotspot.
Since you'll still be delivering network to the fire ethernet port, this setup will look to the fire as if you've run ethernet to it all the way from your router, and it ought to work just the same.
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Just that in your initial post, you describe running ethernet to your fire and also getting the wifi to work as a hotspot.
Since you'll still be delivering network to the fire ethernet port, this setup will look to the fire as if you've run ethernet to it all the way from your router, and it ought to work just the same.
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Yep, got it, thanks!!
mastafunk said:
You only have one radio which can either be used as a client or access point.. But not both at the same time.
This works on phones as it uses the GSM or CDMA radio for the wan and the WiFi for lan.
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Not doubting this on FTV, but the matricom mx2 boxes can be used as a wireless hotspot as long as you have it on ethernet.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader, you might have acess to traditional android settings like the mx2 with a custom rom. Just an idea...
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Not doubting this on FTV, but the matricom mx2 boxes can be used as a wireless hotspot as long as you have it on ethernet.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader, you might have acess to traditional android settings like the mx2 with a custom rom. Just an idea...
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He's already done that.. Said so in first post.. He is looking to do a hotspot and get internet both from WiFi.
mastafunk said:
He's already done that.. Said so in first post.. He is looking to do a hotspot and get internet both from WiFi.
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Lol... I must have read it fast and not paid attention
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He's already done that.. Said so in first post.. He is looking to do a hotspot and get internet both from WiFi.
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That is correct. Works beautifully with ethernet WAN. Works so well that it seems to have a higher broadcast power than my oldish Netgear router. They both sit side by side in my bedroom. As soon as I walk to my garage, my IPhone loses the router, but with FTV it stays connected, with 2 semi circle bars. Also, it chugs along even when FTV goes into sleep mode.
roustabout said:
This is what I'd try. I'd look to see if other Android STBs can run an external wireless card and if so, try to find the cheapest one with the same wifi chipset.
The problem is going to be in telling the OS to use one adapter for uplink and one for hotspot duty. In theory it's possible, in practice - well, keep the cost of the second dongle below 30 bucks and tell us your findings.
Here's a device some Ouya folks use http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B007CO5DZ4
that link is to the refurb, new they're just north of 50. Here's a similar one that goes new for 25-35
http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
Basically, you configure it (connected to a PC) then you connect the device to the ethernet port on your fireTV, it acts as a bridge to the wifi network over the ethernet, so potentially you could then use the wifi onboard as your access point.
Probably you could, actually - you've described doing just that already but using a whole cable run, right?
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Instead of a dedicated device you could purchase a chameleon type of device like this.
http://www.amazon.com/802-11b-Porta...r=1-1&keywords=mini+portable+wifi+router+asus
I would love to make my Fire TV an access point. I have a 1st gen and it is also connected via an ethernet cable. Can you tell this newbie how to do it? You mentioned Wifi Tether Router.

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