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Opera 9.33 Beta version

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Will be posting a review soon. If you want to see the review of NetFront's new version, read this.
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Carty..

9,5 beta already exists.

When will you be posting the review?

I think NetFront is a little better but Im not 100% sure with these beta versions. In Opera some links were not opening but I felt very comfortable with NetFront. Read NetFront' review here (including video)
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Carty..

Yeah, I saw that one in the first post. Thank for the review of Netfront.
But now I'm looking forward to your Opera review.
Considering that Opera is a pre-alpha or something while Netfront is an actual official beta(?), if Netfront comes out only slightly ahead of Opera, then I'm guessing that the final version of Opera, where bugs and stuff are fixed and features are properly implemented, will beat Netfront
Semi-OT: I'm intrigued by the memory usage section of your Netfront review. I wonder if Opera is better at handling multiple "tabs".

Hmmm .... 9.5 Beta has no text rendering as Opera Mini 4 does .... am I missing something or is it cause it is beta version. The performance is not bad, though again Mini 4 is much faster and lighter on memory. I hope at least that 9.5 will bring some power browsing features integrated.

I dont get why everyone harps on about Opera and Netfront, etc. and hates PIE. I have PIE Plus installed along with the PIE slow scroll fix and it run like a dream.... full desktop browsing, multiple tabs, fast scrolling with both scrollbars and finger scrolling, reasonable memory consumption, I just dont really see the problem with PIE.

EazyVG said:
Hmmm .... 9.5 Beta has no text rendering as Opera Mini 4 does
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What do you mean? The text wrapping? I saw a video of the UIQ version, and it actually did the text wrapping thing so text blocks could be viewed without horizontal scrolling.
The performance is not bad, though again Mini 4 is much faster and lighter on memory.
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Opera Mini is a 100K Java app which doesn' handle the page rendering itself. Most of the hard work is done by a server. Opera Mobile is a full, standalone browser which does everything on your phone.

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Download it from here (free registration required)
Will be posting a review soon. If you want to see the review of NetFront's new version, read this.
Regards,
Carty..
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Any news on an Opera review?

I don't think I can write a review of Opera' pre-release version. NetFront pre-release was much more complete or close to their final release. Opera hasn't officially made this version available for test/review and the leaked version seems to have poor performance, poor navigation (no easy menu access and almost no way to exit the application). Hope their final version is much improved to compete.
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Carty..

Does Opera Mini web browser work with tmobile tp2????

Wondering if anyone has been able to install and successfully operate opera mini. This is one of my favorite browsers. When I installed the cab file it didnt load. I then went to the site and tried to download it and it would not open. If anyone has been able to do this or if you are able to find a solution I would be very grateful if you posted a working cab of the browser here in this thread. Thanks in advance!

Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks. hold on while i find the cab for you
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download the Opera Mini - large fonts (VGA) cab and put on your phone. You don't need the opera mini tweaks.
This will install Jbed java manager & install Opera Mini for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398567

Thanks for the quick response. I went to the link and attempted downloading the cab. The cab file says its 2.90mb but for some reason my tp2 is only dling 1.37mb. So the cab is not working. Anyway you can post the cab file here so I can download it direct? I need another source cause that site isnt cooperating with my phone.

Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!

I have Opera Mobile. I would like Opera Mini. I just cant seem to download the entire cab from that site

unfortunately the cab is too big to upload. download it from that thread on to your computer & then move it to your phone

wow that sucks. i am going to try downloading it with my Kaiser then. My computer is currently down and awaiting repair so I am screwed for the moment. I cant even flash a new rom :-(

dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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+1 for this!
mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones

dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?

leckig said:
but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?
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that's why i went with Mini, since the scroll bar doesn't work. Plus i love the syncing bookmarks feature.

I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.

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I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.
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I agree, the one that is installed is perfectly fine and you dont have to worry about all these bugs

Just wanted to thank you again for posting the cab. I was finally able to download it using internet exploer and its working great. Just my 2 cents, 3g plus opera mini equals fastest mobile internet experience ever only to be rivaled by wifi which is not so mobile.

You're welcome. I hear ya buddy, I like Opera Mini more than any of the other mobile browsers except Safari. I still use it even though I have full 3G & could Opera Mobile, but Mobile just sucks, right along with IE.

xnifex said:
Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks.
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What are the trade-offs between using Jblend vs. Jbed?
It's been a while since I've used Jbed. I remember it had a background mode, which Jblend still doesn't have. And I'm not crazy about how Jblend throws a wobbly when I change screen orientation.
But, beyond that I don't know how the Jblend version on the TP2 compares with the current Jbed. I haven't found any good comparisons that were less than a year or two old. Even the MIDlet Bible is out of date now.
I don't have a particular attachment to Jblend, but saying it "sucks" isn't a real compelling argument against it. Are there any real performance comparisons you're aware of between Jblend and other JVMs?

I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.

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mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones
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I use mini instead of 9.7b w/ turbo.
Why:
Mini is an order of magnitude faster in real life.
9.7b is still buggy as hell, often crashing.
Scrolling on 9.7b is painfully slow and redraws take a long time compared to Mini Opera.
Granted, one must install the above linked JBED+signed Opera Mini+associated quick link to get anywhere near usable installation of Opera Mini, and even after that one has to tweak the font size.
But once this is done, there's no contenst - at least for me. Mini Opera is waaaay faster than Opera 9.7b with turbo enabled.

Faster is not always better
both mini and mobile are great versions of the browser
what I like more from mobile is that is more complete more similar to a laptop browser, yes mini is faster but I still prefer opera mobile!
I have plenty of free memory and RAM to run it smoothly
And let´s wait to have the final stable release! that would be great!
just my opinion,

Mini is not just a little bit faster, its a lot faster. At least for me it is. Sure Mobile has more of a desktop look and feel and offers a more complete webpage experience. Thing is I dont need all the fancy flash animations and things of that nature when I am just trying to quickly check a website like this forum. I have both mini and mobile in case I have a problem with a certain site and even mobile gave me problems which made me resort to IE just to download a cab file.
I do have one problem though. Anyway to make the images larger on mini? I dled the hi res version as suggested and now all pics and certain buttons are very tiny. I tried settings and changed the image quality but this did nothing for the image size. Any solution?

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I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.
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Yeah, that's definitely a nuisance, but so far it hasn't been a deal breaker for me. I use TouchPal as an on-screen keyboard most of the time, although I wouldn't give up the TP2 keyboard...when I feel the need for it, it's great. I still don't know if I'd label Jblend with "sucks", since I don't know how its performance compares overall, but if I changed orientations a lot when browsing and had to keep re-running Opera Mini, I'd be switching JVMs too!

Opera Mini 5 + TP2 = :)

http://www.opera.com/mini/next/
I used OM4 for years on a i760 but this new beta version 5 is just amazing on a Tp2. Highly recommended.

I prefer the Opera Mobile 9.7
it works great on my Rhodium!

currently using OMini 4.2 with Esmertec Jbed Java client. love it. better than OMobile or PIE in my opinion

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currently using OMini 4.2 with Esmertec Jbed Java client. love it. better than OMobile or PIE in my opinion
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Truth! it is just sooooo much faster, there's no comparison. And Mini5 has a LOT of nice new stuff, including thumbnails of favorite sites, *no more separate text entry field* (yay!), more robust bookmark tools, and ...well, more.
NOTE: On a Tp2 I first installed this VGA version of E-Jbed before DLing the Mini5 Beta, but I think the old version will work too:
http://www.mediafire.com/?qwhoqymytjj
and then DL this from your TP2:
http://www.opera.com/mini/next/
Enjoy!

I've used both mini and mobile before...
I gotta say that for a big juicy screen and a phone with enough RAM, mobile and its extra features is just a better choice IMO.
but to each his own.
anything is better than IE. Skyfire even, or fennec.

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I've used both mini and mobile before...
anything is better than IE. Skyfire even, or fennec.
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Sometimes only IE will work on some sites ... and if there is video or audio streaming embedded in a page Skyfire + wifi or 3.5g is pretty much the way to go.
I have struggled with 9.7opera - I like it but it makes the phone a lot less stable.
Try www.tvcatchup.com on skyfire! (from the uk only tho I think)
(its not as polished as iphone.tvcatchup.com but it works!)

[new !!!!] opera mobile 10

Opera has just released Opera Mini 10 for WindowsPhones (cab).
[WWE :] http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/1000b1/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_1.cab
[RU :] http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/1000b1/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_1_ru.cab

This is Opera Mini not Opera Mobile like in the Thread

AxlR said:
This is Opera Mini not Opera Mobile like in the Thread
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When i loaded it, the screen shows opera mobile 10. Not opera mini.

Anyone tried this yet? Does zooming work with the TP2 slider?

Pardon my ignorance, what's the difference between WWE and RU?

WWE - World Wide English
RU - Russian (I think?)

More info here: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/11/18/opera-10-beta-for-windows-mobile-released/

Some observations:
-page load times are impressive
-interface looks clean and modern (has a Safari feel to it)
-quickdial page is a good idea, but not intuitive to customize.
-tabs management is pretty and works well
-zoombar doesn't work natively
-screen rotates only on keyboard slideout, not with g-sensor.(I suppose this can be solved with g-sensor utility programs)
-no precise zooming. You're either zoomed in or out. No in between. And you can't zoom further in.
-no more realtime text reflow. Text are formatted into columns so they can be read zoomed in.
-vertical scrolling is not locked. That is, when you scroll vertically to read a column of text, sometimes your scrolling may be off to one side. In v9.5 and 9.7, this slight horizontal movement is ignored intelligently. This isn't the case for v10
-can't disable java-script
-the browser occupies the whole screen. You won't even have access to your Start Menu and taskbar.

I like the feel of the new browser
personally its more finger friendly for me and just looks better,

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personally its more finger friendly for me and just looks better,
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I must say i agree, one question. How to stop it going to mobile websites. The Configpera trick does not work on the 10. Drives me nuts when going to mobile view for example google or youtube.

I second that call. How do we change the Browser String ID?

It crashed twice on me within the first 10 minutes! So I then un-installed it, only to realise I no longer had Opera 9.7!!! I Hard-reset to get it back, but is there a cab for 9.7 and will it still link to the internet tab on TF3d?
I liked the look, but still didn't find it as fast as Opera Mini, even with the Turbo mode....

it is not work on my LG KS20, WM6.0

RussBaker said:
It crashed twice on me within the first 10 minutes! So I then un-installed it, only to realise I no longer had Opera 9.7!!! I Hard-reset to get it back, but is there a cab for 9.7 and will it still link to the internet tab on TF3d?
I liked the look, but still didn't find it as fast as Opera Mini, even with the Turbo mode....
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Same problem...
When opera mobile 10 uninstalled it breaks the link in the TF3D to opera mobile 9.5. I now have it linked to IE...
Not sure how to get it back to opera mobile 9.5

anyone got flash working yet? movies?
no flash love here VZW TP2 running stock 6.1ROM

The officials *.cab for Opera Mobile 9.5 & Opera Mobile 9.7 are on official Opera's website. (www.opera.com)

Can someone tell me how to bring-in/import my current Opera bookmarks?
In 9.x versions I could copy "opera6.adr" (which I keep archived on my sd card) to the Opera9 folder under Windows, but copying that file to anywhere in the Opera10 folder under Programs didn't seem to work.

it's a BETA, stop expecting full version stability and features. . .

Zylograth said:
it's a BETA, stop expecting full version stability and features. . .
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Isn't it OK to at least mention bugs? Or is not not permitted?
Since when is "just-use-it-or-not-but-just-keep-quiet" the XDA policy?

MCbrian, you're welcome sharing with us your point of view about Opera and what you liked and what you liked less.

Best Browser for X1?

I've used both IE and Opera, and it seems that IE is a lot faster (I always thought opera was supposed to be the fastest).
The browsing speed of my xperia, combined with the horrible keyboard doublepressing letters makes it a useless piece of junk to me for internet uses!
I had a better time using my X1 as a wi-fi router and reading manga on my iPod touch using its opera, it was amazingly fast (pages load within 1 second), however on the X1 itself, it would take FOREVER.

My top 3:
1. Opera
2. Skyfire
3. Internet Explorer.

Opera 10 for me. As a 'bit on the side' I also keep Picsel, it's a convenient browser and all-rounder for opening all sorts. At the time of me getting it a few years back, it was a semi-legal Samsung port that was protected better than White House. I loathe IE and never ever use it.

opera 10 is far better than IE, , much faster too... i wont mind having that IE that's faster than opera

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Hi there, I have experimented with many browsers, and the one browser i have found to work the best is Skyfire. I couldn't log into my banking webite due to many javascript and all sorts of funny things, and skyfire was the solution. I also use the others, as I have found that some work better than other. I don't think there is a master solution, but a question of experimenting and finding "horses for courses"... my 2 cents worth ....
Anton

There are many threads like that here. Use search little and you will see.
Also there is no clear solution to this answer. Everyone have different best browser.
For me, that is Opera 10.

spikegotti said:
opera 10 is far better than IE, , much faster too... i wont mind having that IE that's faster than opera
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I have Opera 10 on my X1 and its not bad, however I was just wondering if anyone has managed to get www.tvcatchup.com working on their phone yet ? The browser keeps telling me that it needs flash so I installed flash light for windows mobile and it still come up with the message that it needs flash..

You won't get full flash on WM. Your best bet is to wait if they release Android 2.2 for X1, but flash would still be super slow and choppy.

My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers

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My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers
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I know that one.

I am currently using Opera Mobile 9.5 but it sometimes crashes my phone when you first launch it or close the program.
So what is the best lite Internet browser for the X1?

opera 3.0 mini hand down !!!

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My vote goes for Opera Mini (the .cab, not the .jar). MUCH faster than the std. browsers
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can i get the cab that's free?? i feel opera is better!!!

i am using the one called UC browser , its very good , fast and reduces GPRS traffic , i used to install opera mini with my p1i and p990i before , and it was better than UC and much more effective with the traffic reducing , but with my X1 , the only opera mini wich can be installed is the Opera mini 5 beta , which unfortunately doesnt support Arabic symbols ....
the opera mobile browser ( not mini ) consumes GPRS data like a monster , and is not economic at all

UC Web - Wonderful browser open 10 or more tabs!
UC Web is a wonderful browser I have been using. Both on the PPC and WinMo Standard. Can open lots of tabs (have often opened about 10!) and not restricted to 3, as in Opera 10.
Has proxy based compression to reduce data usage, if needed. Unlike most, have prefered it over Opera, Opera Mini, Teashark, IE, Skyfire etc. Though for some specific uses one may want to use other browsers, UC Web has been my default browser for a long time.
Also very suitable in downloading stuff.

I'm using Opera mini beta 5. It's really thumb friendly, fast and snappy.

My favourite browser for everyday use is opera 10. It's fast, displays most sites correctly and I like it's user interface.
For all sort of flash based sites I use Skyfire but I cannot use it as my standard browser because of the lack of tabbed browsing and the chessboard issue.
My default browser is Internet Explorer since I frequently use programs that rely on the default browser and I experienced some problems when I changed the default browser to Opera.

In china we use UCweb

Opera mini 5 is the fastest one then opera mobile or IE.