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Why you don’t need a task killer app with Android.

http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
Why you don’t need a task killer app with Android.
Posted Posted by Cody Banks on 25th May 2010 Comments 5 comments
A lot of people have asked us what the best app is for killing tasks? Well, the answer is none of them. Sure there are some nice apps out there for killing tasks, but the fact is you just don’t need one with Android. In fact, most developers
won’t even look at your logcat file if they see you running a task killer app on your Android-based phone.
To clear things up about this, Google’s Android developers blog has finally put this debate to rest about why a task killer is unnecessary, as well as why there are certain services that run in the background all the time, I’m sure at one time or another you’ve seen them and asked yourself “Why do those services keep starting after I kill them?”. Below you can read about when applications stop.......
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I've found no matter how many times it's said, someone will have an anecdote about how their phone became amazingly fast or they doubled battery life using one of these apps. People who want to use them will continue to do so. Don't trouble yourself.

It's nice to have one to kill the odd app that is messing up, but other than that I don't use one.

Aitese said:
I've found no matter how many times it's said, someone will have an anecdote about how their phone became amazingly fast or they doubled battery life using one of these apps. People who want to use them will continue to do so. Don't trouble yourself.
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the reason people say this is because it's actually true.
that's just the truth, maybe you should try using one and notice the difference.
I uninstalled mine for the first time yesterday to test the theory and today, my battery lasted a grand total of 4.5 hours. that's a whole 3 hours less than before.
and at the end of the day, when it's laggy and then use the TK, it really does clear things up.
still wish there was a way to make the battery last longer, it really does suck

samac92 said:
It's nice to have one to kill the odd app that is messing up, but other than that I don't use one.
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You can do this from android... no need for an app.

Barff1984 said:
I uninstalled mine for the first time yesterday to test the theory and today, my battery lasted a grand total of 4.5 hours. that's a whole 3 hours less than before.
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I'd say if you're only getting between 4.5 and 7.5 hours battery life, I'd say you've probably got a rogue app installed anyway.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I'd say if you're only getting between 4.5 and 7.5 hours battery life, I'd say you've probably got a rogue app installed anyway.
Regards,
Dave
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I agree, taskkillers aren't battery savers they are drainers...
Have had my desire for a couple of days now (comming from a htc hero) and since I removed my taskmanager my desire has juice for about 1,5 days.
With taskpanel I hardly reached 24 hours... And I haven't noticed the device becoming slower...
I don't miss it and if I don't get any strange apps I won't ever install a taskmanager again...

well there are some apps which don't work properly.
Take the xda android app as example. it would sometimes just freeze, and there was no way to restart the app, no option for force close was provided by Android OS either.
In this case Android isn't doing anything, so you have to kill the process manually using
1. the default android feature
2. using a task killer.
I like the quick access to the advanced task killer over the notification area, therefore i use it.
People can tell me whole day long how ingenius Android is, and that it will do everything automatically. But i made very different experiences with some 3rd party apps, which needed some killing every now and then. The xda app is only ONE example of many.

Barff1984 said:
the reason people say this is because it's actually true.
that's just the truth, maybe you should try using one and notice the difference.
I uninstalled mine for the first time yesterday to test the theory and today, my battery lasted a grand total of 4.5 hours. that's a whole 3 hours less than before.
and at the end of the day, when it's laggy and then use the TK, it really does clear things up.
still wish there was a way to make the battery last longer, it really does suck
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The thing is I HAVE used them. Advanced Task Killer was the first app I installed on receiving my Desire...the phone became glitchy and buggy and laggy and it was horrible. I uninstalled ATK and all that stopped. It now NEVER slows down, and I'm getting well over 8hrs of use a day.
I suspect you have a buggy app, and THAT is what you need to find.
We need to stop giving bad app developers a feww ride by ignoring their bad code and just killing the process. Uninstall their app, give it a bad review and insist on using a rival app.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
well there are some apps which don't work properly.
Take the xda android app as example. it would sometimes just freeze, and there was no way to restart the app, no option for force close was provided by Android OS either.
In this case Android isn't doing anything, so you have to kill the process manually using
1. the default android feature
2. using a task killer.
I like the quick access to the advanced task killer over the notification area, therefore i use it.
People can tell me whole day long how ingenius Android is, and that it will do everything automatically. But i made very different experiences with some 3rd party apps, which needed some killing every now and then. The xda app is only ONE example of many.
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You can force close an app from Android. Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Locate the app > open it and force stop.
Create a shortcut to manage applications short cut on your home screen if you like, then you'll only need to do this:
Open Manage Applictions short cut > Locate the app > open it and force stop. - This is just as simple as using a task manager shortcut.

TheOriginalKi said:
You can force close an app from Android. Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Locate the app > open it and force stop.
Create a shortcut to manage applications short cut on your home screen if you like, then you'll only need to do this:
Open Manage Applictions short cut > Locate the app > open it and force stop. - This is just as simple as using a task manager shortcut.
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actually using the notification drawer is more comfortable for me. But this is just personal preference.

Yes-They might be useful to kill the occasional rogue app. but apart from that they are pretty pointless. Android does a good job of killing tasks itself.
Despite all the evidence to the contrary people many will continue to use them and use them indiscriminately. Still if they want generally poorer performance and reduced battery life surely that is their choice.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
actually using the notification drawer is more comfortable for me. But this is just personal preference.
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How does that work. the notification draw is pretty much blank most of the time save for new message/downloads etc ?

has anyone actually tried to load up so many apps, so there's almost no memory left, so android kills other apps by himself? It's all excellent in theory, but never witnessed it in real life.

guys I had advanced task manager installed in my phone and my phone was laggy, and my battery was always down to 40-50% at the end of the day, but yesterday on someone's advice I removed ATM, and instantly i noticed the difference, there was no lag in the menus and everything was smooth, and today my battery was an astonishing 85 % remaining when i came back home, and I intentionaly used my phone more than usual. so at least one thing is sure that I will not be using any task manager.

matthoy said:
How does that work. the notification draw is pretty much blank most of the time save for new message/downloads etc ?
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with advanced task manager you can see a small icon at the notification area (at all times). When pulling down the drawer you'll see an entry which says "advanced task manager".
just touch it and a list with current running apps will show up.

kamidadevil said:
guys I had advanced task manager installed in my phone and my phone was laggy, and my battery was always down to 40-50% at the end of the day, but yesterday on someone's advice I removed ATM, and instantly i noticed the difference, there was no lag in the menus and everything was smooth, and today my battery was an astonishing 85 % remaining when i came back home, and I intentionaly used my phone more than usual. so at least one thing is sure that I will not be using any task manager.
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there are way too many variables in this equation, as to just claim that ATM is responsible for hogging 30-40% battery power per day.
Of course it will have some kind of impact, just like other apps too. But i don't think that it will have a much bigger impact.

no, I dont think there are any variables involved in my case except ATM, I never use internet on mine phone during the day coz i always have internet access on my laptop, instead today I used wifi intentionaly just for testing battery and played asphalt which I normaly dont play during the work hours,

Here's a video from the Developer site that explains very well how Android manages Apps:
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
And if I really need to kill something (very rare!) then I use Task Tray Beta:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.stonedonkey.tasktray or find it in the Market.
This app is also great for seeing what 's actually running and what 's not anymore. And for switching to some App that you know is running, but in the default Android task switcher you can see only 6 apps.... and this will show all.

I tried out a few task killer but all they did was stop my alarm going off in the morning! I'm sure that's something I could have changed though.
I find the best way to keep my desire running nice and quick is to give it a reboot every morning on my way to work. Only takes a couple of minutes....give it a try...

Solution for lagging when opening applications

AndroidCantral wrote yesterday an article about fine tuning android multi-tasking
about fine tuning android multi-tasking. They show a small tutorial to free some space using a MinFreeManager application.
Application discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5529436
I have tried this application in the aggressive preset setting and Galaxy was much faster and snippier with opening applications. It's running now for a day without any problems so far..
You do need root the Galaxy first!
Have anybody else tried this app?

I have been using this task killer.
Thanks for the info. Learn something new.
Will try later after I have completed charging my phone.

that program minfreemanager didnt work on my phone after reboot the file in /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree was not updating.. got the program referenced in the thread called autokiller and that is updating the file on reboot correctly.

getting rid of the lag
Memory management helps (I use autokiller) but what really solved this annoyance
was moving the applications' data to the NAND (see http://android.modaco.com/content/s...298/got-the-stalling-problem-rooted-try-this/)
Its like a completely different device
One caveat is that the size of the NANDs is limited so you better know what you're doing and make sure that your /data/data dir is small enough to fit there

I am nervous about doing this since android is not designed that way. until paul or someone comes up for a fix so you dont have to reinstall os if you go over the limit.

lgkahn said:
that program minfreemanager didnt work on my phone after reboot the file in /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree was not updating.. got the program referenced in the thread called autokiller and that is updating the file on reboot correctly.
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AutoKiller is ideed better. I still new to Android, still have to lern a lot
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Memory management helps (I use autokiller) but what really solved this annoyance
was moving the applications' data to the NAND (see http://android.modaco.com/content/s...298/got-the-stalling-problem-rooted-try-this/)
Its like a completely different device
One caveat is that the size of the NANDs is limited so you better know what you're doing and make sure that your /data/data dir is small enough to fit there
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What kind of data is that? Does this include mails, contacts, appointments, games save data?

EVO questions (Noob here)

Noob alert, I'm new here, and I'm new to smart phones, I had the HTC Touch Diamond but it was defective to the point where the only thing I could do on it was browse the web and make phone calls...
I'm not that advanced when it comes to this phone since I just picked it up 2 days ago...
Question 1
I've searched around and saw there was ways to put apps on the SD card, and I'm sure just like a computer you can't run the apps off the SD card (unless you can?)
Well my issue with that is I've tried Astro but I'm dumb and can't figure it out.
Question 2
What's the reason and advantages of "rooting" my phone?
Question 3
Battery life... Battery goes dead in the matter of hours, I took it off the charger and within 10-20 minutes it was down to 89% battery life.
I've installed an app killer to save on processing, and save battery.
Set it to CDMA

Krimlin said:
Noob alert, I'm new here, and I'm new to smart phones, I had the HTC Touch Diamond but it was defective to the point where the only thing I could do on it was browse the web and make phone calls...
I'm not that advanced when it comes to this phone since I just picked it up 2 days ago...
Question 1
I've searched around and saw there was ways to put apps on the SD card, and I'm sure just like a computer you can't run the apps off the SD card (unless you can?)
Well my issue with that is I've tried Astro but I'm dumb and can't figure it out.
Question 2
What's the reason and advantages of "rooting" my phone?
Question 3
Battery life... Battery goes dead in the matter of hours, I took it off the charger and within 10-20 minutes it was down to 89% battery life.
I've installed an app killer to save on processing, and save battery.
Set it to CDMA
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Answer 1: as far as i know the only rom using apps 2 sd at the moment is Flipz, ive tried one or two others, but they werent using it and im not sure if you can just add it on top. So you CAN install apps and have them run off the SD card.
Answer 2: Reason, because you can. Advantage, many! There are a lot of GREAT developers on this forum who strive to make this phone what it should have been out of the box. Problems like battery issues, software glitches, addons, features, they do it all.
example:
Free wireless tether that sprint wants to charge you an additional 30 a month for. (its a big draw)
oh yeah and custom roms.
Answer 3: there are MANY threads on battery saving tips and the custom roms that are adding their own battery saving features.
there are a lot of threads that cover your questions, so just look around and READ EVERYTHING.
good luck.

Krimlin said:
Question 2
What's the reason and advantages of "rooting" my phone?
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I am only three weeks into this phone, but this is what I gather....rooting your phone allows you to install apps that are not in the market. Some of these apps help you make your phone run better.
- Controlling the CPU - this is an option on an app (forget the name) where you can set the CPU speeds for when your screen is off or many other situations. the responses to that app seem to increase battery life hugely. this is my leading reason for why I 'might' root.
- Cleaning up bloatware - i HATE HATE HATE bloatware and had it off my winmo phone in about three weeks it took to learn how to flash. now i need to learn how to root so i can get rid of the dumb sprint tm'd stuff
- Adding better bits to your OS - (i think this is root and not nand) but you can find better bits for your phone, like a different keyboard or better radio or things like that would work for you better than stock. this way you can do the little tweaks you want.
Lastly you can put new ROMs on your phone. Lots of em already for this phone. So far the Evo seems to have camera issues on the roms...not sure yet which roms have it figured and which are still working on it. But you can try out different roms and see if you like em.
(Hopefully if I got any of that wrong...the experienced ones will correct...but that is what this noob has gathered so far.)

sablesurfer said:
rooting your phone allows you to install apps that are not in the market. Some of these apps help you make your phone run better.
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This is not true. You don't have to have your phone rooted to install apps that are not in the market. By default, this option is disabled. To get apps into your Android phone you just have to go into the settings and enable the ability to install apps not in the market. Simple and already in original ROMs.
Now, there are some apps that take advantage of ROOT and have some special feature, but you can still install them on your phone if you do not have ROOT, but you will not be able to use the app's special feature.
As with all apps, some make your phone run better and some make it worse. Caveat emptor.

So again I'm new to this, where do I go to get these cool apps and such, and anyone have any tips and tricks for rooting, some of this stuff is above my head.
I'm sorry guys, I'm a moderator for a car forum so I understand having a noob show up asking alot of dumb questions that should be common knowledge in your circles LOL.

lol,
There is a program called simpleroot over in the dev forum that makes rooting a snap, and I think there are even some video tutorials
...And almost all the apps you would want are on the market

figure out what version you have, menu->settings->about phone->software information->build number
and then go to the read about rooting that version in the developer section

Ok so I read through the rooting instructions made by toast, seems easy enough.
But I also saw that it wipes your phone, meaning?
Am I going to have to re enter all my contacts, download all my apps again, and change all my setting back to the way I like it?
Also after rooting my phone, I won't have to like re activate it to make calls right, and after rooting it when I turn the phone on again for use what will I find? Is it going to look like it did when I first pulled it out of the box?
There's alot of things I don't understand about rooting and if someone would point me in the right direction that would be awesome, I've tried looking but keep coming across discussion threads, and instructions, no real explaination of what it does to my phone and what I can use it for.

Yes it will wipe everything pretty much. You should sync your contacts with google though so you dont have to worry about reloading those. After you are rooted you can use one of those 'root apps' called Titanium Backup and that will let you backup and restore everything.
You will not need to reactivate your phone. After you flash it will basically look like it did when it first came out of the box. Until you flash a custom rom, then some things may be a bit different (maybe custom themes, removed apk's, things like that.

Awesome, thanks for the info. I appreciate the hospitality guys!

Rooting and the OTA
nenn said:
figure out what version you have, menu->settings->about phone->software information->build number
and then go to the read about rooting that version in the developer section
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I swapped my 1st EVO in a panic after running the 1st June 29 update. I now have a 0003 with .6 and would like to jump into the world of root. My qusetion is at this point should I do the OTA and then root or just root with the 1st toast method 1 and 2?
Also my laptop set up for dual boot so I can use either Ubuntu or win7. One over the other for diving in?
Thanks for any help.

Dano3 said:
I swapped my 1st EVO in a panic after running the 1st June 29 update. I now have a 0003 with .6 and would like to jump into the world of root. My qusetion is at this point should I do the OTA and then root or just root with the 1st toast method 1 and 2?
Also my laptop set up for dual boot so I can use either Ubuntu or win7. One over the other for diving in?
Thanks for any help.
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Try to do your root as close to the lowest version you have, but it seems that people have gotten root even after the latest OTA update.
I don't think it matters in what OS you want to work in to root or mod your phone, but it tends to be a bit easier under Ubuntu. It was a pain in the ass to get the EVO recognized under Windows. The easy 1 click root is made to work under windows. I find that creating a kitchen (aka setup to make custom ROMs with apps/features added or removed) is easier in Linux. And doing development and building the OS from source is waaay easier under Ubuntu. I'm doing development, so it's a lot easier under Ubuntu.
Summary, somethings are easier in Windows and others easier in Ubuntu.

Check out this thread for a helpful battery tip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721156
Make sure you go into settings > wireless networks > mobile data settings and turn off always on mobile data.
This one of the most popular roms that focuses on battery saving:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700649
MAKE SURE YOU SEARCH THE THREAD BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS B/C SOMEONE WILL EAT YOUR FACE FOR ASKING A QUESTION THATS BEEN ASKED A MILLION TIMES

Antebios said:
This is not true. You don't have to have your phone rooted to install apps that are not in the market. By default, this option is disabled. To get apps into your Android phone you just have to go into the settings and enable the ability to install apps not in the market. Simple and already in original ROMs.
Now, there are some apps that take advantage of ROOT and have some special feature, but you can still install them on your phone if you do not have ROOT, but you will not be able to use the app's special feature.
As with all apps, some make your phone run better and some make it worse. Caveat emptor.
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AH, well then. That would be why I threw my thoughts out there...for correction if needed. But the SetCPU thing needs root right? And that is the one I think I definitely want.

Thanks JJ you've been a savior!

You guys here have been awesome and very informative on the irc. I'll still need some guidance but you guys have helped a lot and didn't give me hell for being a noob.
Thanks again!

Home Screen / KFTVLauncher WAY too busy-looking now?!

after the latest update it feels like there is way too much stuff
nice that they added Music.
FreeTime, at first I got foolishly excited thinking: "even though this is for kids, it says 'you can add Your Apps' !!!" but then quickly realized the obvious: amazon's apps, not your own apps. duh.
but now it feels like there's just way too much junk sitting there.
it would be nice to be able to choose the order of the categories, and which categories to display (or not-display)
I don't think this will happen, because then the user won't constantly scroll past all those things to buy!
I've been happy with stock everything for a while - all I ever use is Plex and whatever free videos I've loaded. So basically I only ever use: Home, Watchlist, and Settings.
didn't want to bother with rooting or with llama / launcher.
hmmmm... actually... with rooting, there might be a way to change some of the KFTVLauncher display settings... if I get annoyed enough maybe I'll look at that.

Maybe someone can make an xposed mod for editing the selection menus so we can add,hide/remove,or reposition selections.
Of course the settings page will need to be made unable to hide or delete.
I want to at least hide all but home and settings so I can quickly access my apps by going down only once and without using as much memory since the other options would not take up extra RAM space.
Random question for anyone:Can I set up a SWAP file on my 32GB USB Mass Storage connected via Stickmount to gain serious performance?

retroben said:
Maybe someone can make an xposed mod for editing the selection menus so we can add,hide/remove,or reposition selections.
Of course the settings page will need to be made unable to hide or delete.
I want to at least hide all but home and settings so I can quickly access my apps by going down only once and without using as much memory since the other options would not take up extra RAM space.
Random question for anyone:Can I set up a SWAP file on my 32GB USB Mass Storage connected via Stickmount to gain serious performance?
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I was planning on expanding my Xposed module to allow you hide/show the various sidebar items. I already figured out how to modify it but with the recent update some or all of my code is broken and I haven't had a chance yet to see which part of it is.
I'm not sure what kind of boost you think you are going to get from swap. For one, USB storage is slower than molasses and for two, that's a great way to kill said usb storage device.

rbox said:
I'm not sure what kind of boost you think you are going to get from swap. For one, USB storage is slower than molasses and for two, that's a great way to kill said usb storage device.
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QFT
also, thank you rbox for all your earlier work with xposed...

QFT
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Quite,fast,though?

I got the code to clean up the sidebar working. Right now it's hardcoded on what to remove, so I need to write a setting UI to make it selectable.

rbox said:
I got the code to clean up the sidebar working. Right now it's hardcoded on what to remove, so I need to write a setting UI to make it selectable.
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Thanks for your hard work on this. I have 12 menu items on the home launcher, 6 of which I never use, and would love to cut that in half.

rbox said:
I got the code to clean up the sidebar working. Right now it's hardcoded on what to remove, so I need to write a setting UI to make it selectable.
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rbox, do you have the code on github or anywhere? I would love to have a go at it also.

mdpauley said:
rbox, do you have the code on github or anywhere? I would love to have a go at it also.
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No. Right now it's a big giant mess of lots of random test code.

rbox is killin it with this xposed work. He gave me some insight into what he's doing and it blows any of the tinkering I've done (messing with DBs that get rewritten immediately..) away.

servo386 said:
rbox is killin it with this xposed work. He gave me some insight into what he's doing and it blows any of the tinkering I've done (messing with DBs that get rewritten immediately..) away.
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I just updated my module thread for v1.1 which contains the menu items selection feature.

GUIDE: Make your V30 Faster and Smoother

I"ll keep it short, if you guys have more tips to improve on this please share.
I have been testing this for days on my wife stock v30 and mine. Both started the same with all bloware.
After doing this I actually get
-Better battery
-Less battery drain in standby
-Faster performance
-and MUCH SMOOTHER SCROLLING
It seems to be a few LG apps running in the backgroung that are causing the stutter and lag we have all experience,
some more than others.
Before doing this, go into different apps check speed and scrolling (Instagram, google home, gmail etc) so u can see the before and after.
READ THIS BEFORE DOING:
-LG KEYBOARD IS DISABLE, download a different keyboard (swipe, gboard) and have that already install in your device, if you already have then disregard this
-Also downloaded a different launcher if u are going to disable the stock launcher. I recommend using a different launcher other than the LG.
Let start.
1: Go into play store and download "LG package disabler"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lgpd.pmanager
I believe is $1.99 but well worth it for what u can actually do
The LG PACKAGE DISABLE is suppost to AUTOMATICALLY download thr plugin needed to have administrator right so u can disable apps. if it doesnt after installation. download it here.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.weblib.mdm
2: BELOW I have attach pics of all apps i have disable. disable all or just the apps u which to disable.
NOTE: I disable Chrome (using Samsung internet beta) which support ad blocker (highly recommended) you can enable chrome in LG PD
3: go to developer option and enable "force gpu rendering"
after all this, Restart your phone. It should be faster and smoother.
Theres a few things you might want ENABLE (like the floating bar) which I have disable since I don't use it.
I did not include the 0.5X animation trick since I like my animation to be at 1.0X (personal choice)

Anyone else try this?

ern88 said:
Anyone else try this?
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I just used that xml and so far things certainly feel snappier -- will test the battery tomorrow though.
I was getting almost 5hrs of screen on time before, I'm curious how much of an impact disabling all these packages will have.
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cvsolidx17 said:
I just used that xml and so far things certainly feel snappier -- will test the battery tomorrow though.
I was getting almost 5hrs of screen on time before, I'm curious how much of an impact disabling all these packages will have.
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updated the xml files. now includes 109 apps bloaware disable. rebooted phone multiple times and played with it for a day. rock solid

eduardmc said:
updated the xml files. now includes 109 apps bloaware disable. rebooted phone multiple times and played with it for a day. rock solid
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How do you import the XML into the app?

ern88 said:
How do you import the XML into the app?
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save the xml. in ur device. open LG PD. on upper right hand conner u will see 3 dots. when u press that you'll see different options including "import from xml". choose that and select file.

So far so good, just had to re enable a few things that I use but its a lot snappier. Thanks.

i did this as well but now i cant seem to re-enable anything. I uncheck the box and it rechecks it. I imported the xml file

mallman said:
i did this as well but now i cant seem to re-enable anything. I uncheck the box and it rechecks it. I imported the xml file
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Turns out uninstalling both apps and reinstalling them fixed it. Definitely noticably faster

mallman said:
i did this as well but now i cant seem to re-enable anything. I uncheck the box and it rechecks it. I imported the xml file
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even if u delete the app and reboot?

I have around 20 apps disabled this way myself, and regularly get over 7 hours SOT. That includes spending 8 hours in poor signal areas and using WiFi Calling.

eduardmc said:
even if u delete the app and reboot?
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Right. Once rebooted it didn't work so removed and readded apps. Probably just my lucky day

NotATreoFan said:
I have around 20 apps disabled this way myself, and regularly get over 7 hours SOT. That includes spending 8 hours in poor signal areas and using WiFi Calling.
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V30 is great for battery life even with no app disable. This is more about making the snappier. i do get 7 - 8 plus sot on every charge.

I've done this on other phones, so I know how, but when I import and set, the apps don't get disabled. I have to go through manually. Any idea why?

I've been using this since this morning including the XML file. Seems to be working great although I haven't been paying enough attention to know whether or not battery life has improved. At the very least it's worth it to know that I can get rid of all of the bloatware.

eduardmc said:
V30 is great for battery life even with no app disable. This is more about making the snappier. i do get 7 - 8 plus sot on every charge.
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Exactly. Just have to be careful that you don't disable too much. You can accidentally disable things that seem like bloat, but somewhere deep in the system settings, another app/feature could be looking for it. I played that game for weeks getting the debloat of my V20 ROMs just right.

the app doesn't work for me for some reason. I run it, import the xml file, it says "107 packages disabled" or something like that, then reboot my phone, and check how many packages are disabled, and it says only 3. Whenever I import the xml file I never see it actually put a checkmark next to any packages to disable.
Any ideas what's going on? I've already uninstalled/reinstalled and it does the same thing. Do I manually need to give the app certain permissions?
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I now went through the steps to make the app an owner app from adb, and I successfully was able to run the command (removed all my accounts, ran the command, re-added my accounts). Still, nothing actually disables.

OK, just tried this with Package Disabler (not the LG specific one) and it bricked my phone. I'm now stuck on the white T-Mobile screen and the phone won't load. Does anyone know how I can fix this?

Who can rut tests on just freshly unboxed V30? So we could measure if we can get it faster

Japultra said:
OK, just tried this with Package Disabler (not the LG specific one) and it bricked my phone. I'm now stuck on the white T-Mobile screen and the phone won't load. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
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You are not bricked. Not from disabling packages. You will have to factory reset to get back up and running,