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Well, i just bought a htc s620 / excalibur yesterday. (i think, i'm going to receive it within this week, maybe).
I still got two questions :
1. is there a nameable difference between the official wm6 (offered from thc, already upgraded on the one i bought) ad wm 6.1 (except, that wm6.1 now has the home-panel?) - so, is there a NEED to upgrade to wm6.1?
and:
2. how can i create themes for this one? can i simply create wm6-qvga-landscape-themes for windows mobile ppc (using theme maker x) or is there any better program out, which supports qvga smartphones? or does the theme-style (sp-qvga / ppc-qvga) even matter anyway?
satani said:
Well, i just bought a htc s620 / excalibur yesterday. (i think, i'm going to receive it within this week, maybe).
I still got two questions :
1. is there a nameable difference between the official wm6 (offered from thc, already upgraded on the one i bought) ad wm 6.1 (except, that wm6.1 now has the home-panel?) - so, is there a NEED to upgrade to wm6.1?
and:
2. how can i create themes for this one? can i simply create wm6-qvga-landscape-themes for windows mobile ppc (using theme maker x) or is there any better program out, which supports qvga smartphones? or does the theme-style (sp-qvga / ppc-qvga) even matter anyway?
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To answer the first question, i would upgrade to the new 6.1, its really awesome. Also, it includes many nice features like threaded texting, etc. And regarding the second question, i never really tried creating themes because the new 6.1 is loaded with nice themes.
ppc themes as far as I know won't work with a landscape device..they either won't load or will come out distorted...a good program with a lot of custom landscape themes is Facade from SBSH...they have a trial (14 day i believe) and a pay version (not too expensive) and before I upgraded to 6.1 I use to use it a lot...it'll work with 6.1.
Yep - you will definitely want to upgrade to the WM6.1 ROM. No matter what cooked ROM you use, the basic improvements to 6.1 over 6 are numerous with things like PIE copy & paste and zoom in and out and customizable home page. I personally don't use the sliding panel home screen but many love it.
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Yep - you will definitely want to upgrade to the WM6.1 ROM. No matter what cooked ROM you use, the basic improvements to 6.1 over 6 are numerous with things like PIE copy & paste and zoom in and out and customizable home page. I personally don't use the sliding panel home screen but many love it.
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Oh yah the copy and paste feature is awesome
well, i will keep thinking of a possible upgrade to 6.1 (but, i think, i will keep the pre-installed WM6, because it is shipped in german, and i already have an english x50v with 6.1, and as it's a smartphone, i'd like to keep it my native language).
And as for themes : is the theming still divided in color-theme and bakground-image (which can be put sinlge in as well to any existing theme, as it was in SP2003SE) - i was using a voq professional for now.
if that's the way, SP-Themes work, i may "only" have to create qvga-landscape-images and that's all.
but only, if i can still edit the internal colors / colorsheme with V2R home screen editor. (i think, it's nearly the same app, as homeEdit is, which i used for theming on the voq.).
And as i also have the mentionned Dell Axim x50v (mostly always near me, as i use it as mp3-player), i have a pda, with which i go online, if there's a free spot around. So there may be no real need to go online whith this SP, so I may use it only the way it is - as a phone, for appointments/reminders and a few games.
I'm really sorry if this is posted to the wrong forum or is way too much of a noob question but I was wondering if any of you could explain what the differences are between the different Windows Mobile 6/6.1/6.5 versions?
I'm asking here because I have an 8525 and have been using it with the official HTC upgrade to 6.0 ever since that version was released. I have also been a long time user of SPB Pockets Plus and recently upgraded to SPB Mobile Shell 3 which I am finding to be an incredible improvement however I am wondering what the newer version's of Mobile would add to my phone?
In case this matters for the potential usefullness of different versions, I am currently using my phone as both a business phone (I am at onsites more than in my office) as well as for personal amusement so I tend to use its ability to surf the web, check my email, access logmein, read various file types including txt, rtf, pdf, lit, etc. I am considering getting a Fortress once they come out so I can have a bigger screen but I guess that will depend on the price. Anyways, if anyone could clue me in on what the benefits are on upgrading my 8525 to the various versions I would be most gratefull, thanks in advance.
Well
Im not an expert but im a user since windows mobile 2003.
Windows Mobile 2003: The OS was fast... its stability offers to the user a new experince on a usage for a phone... you know eventough in that years the awsome images from Nokia or some other phone with Symbian OS offers nicely at sees the phone contacts and you cand add a little mor programs... cause programs in a phone isnt anything important... important.... was the signal strength so... WM2003 offer all the windows apps to a new whole device... but windows mobile 2003 jumps to A phone version! it was amazing i remember wel the HTC Blueangel! it was a big jump cause even if I use a casiopedia with windows CE isnt amazing than WM2033 from the HP iPAQ it has phone signal now... not a treo cause it allows you to see and edit offiece files! the most magnifiq use of that OS was The bluetooth manager **** that was a wizard!
Lately comes the WM5
But what da heck WM5 was so ugly?
Windows Mobile 5
This is the jump betwen ne images and new performance but because of that the OS was soooooo slooooooow i remember its bar like metallic awful! lol!!!!!
But what about the performance? it was stable hard as a stone!!!! many apps mostly dissapear in that jump from 2003 to WM5 and many of new comes from wm5... i really think that if we could have another device with WM5 maybe i could be dissapointed and drop off the WM devices but fortunatly i found a HTC Wizard aka Qtek9100... it was nice but it was slow... i love the skype i love the push email with the AKU2 holy ****! was a big hit! that aku... but the most impressionant was that we can see mostly the same Inteface as WM2003 but kindly better... not so for me.
Windows Mobile 6
After fall in this big forum in 2007 i cant remember where do i get all my apps and cabs... hardly for sure... when i get here... i wasamazed how coul the WM5 looks like this awsome UI i remember the change betwen WM2003 to WM5 and a say amazing buit ugly compared to SYmbian or PAlm os, but it has a new Speed... amazing speed!!! the old lovley BT manager dissapears but the new commanager was amazing the OS was a amzing and the messenger! all that new apps with flash growin up... really muck me up... I hate in sometime this site cause i think i screwed up my phone... but i couldnt understand the entire process of unlockin a phone from an official to a custom rom... and my device dont boots anymore so... my batt drops to the bottom it has no charge to try another Original upgrade and save it... so i wait a little buy a wall batt charger and that do the trick.... So much apps came in WM6. the htc touch with the cube was so incredible!
Windows Mobile 6.1
This looks like the 6 but the only change I can feel is the Speed no the performance... but the NetCF came and save us all it gives so much stability so much speed and compatibility to some more apps and development becomes fats to show us the Visual programming... In this part... the Touchflo isnt compatible and many people try to reach the cube and get it works but nothing it couldnt happend! many Flash players do the trick but with so much ram in it... Time for the Manilla to arrives... I mean first the new Touchflo 2 in 3D with the amazing Diamond!!!!!! that was a crack!!! really all people try to hack that applet but... none can
so it must be something to do in older devices with Processors that dont has 3d acelerators... and someone did it... there is a forgotten thread a biiiiiiig thread developing the manila 2D working for NON HTC DEVICES patch and it works very well kind year ago or year and a half... the mostly change betwen the 6 and 6.1 was the threaded SMS its all about the speed to be important for 6.1 all the UI remains since wm5.
Windows Mobile 6.5
We all wait for WM7 and M$ comes with his 6.5 new UI honeycomb start menu... new titanium transparencies and so much!!!! letters from some private investigator from the developmente mobile department sayin we gonna screw you all if post anything about 6.5 comes to town in Blueangel device.... YES BLUEANGEL!!!!!! that old device with wm2003 was the first to get 6.5 and man.... THANKS really thanks to SUN DReam!!! to show us the new 6.5... its all about the UI theperformnce when every beta build comes more fast... more stable
nicely in UI they shuts off the hexagons on the start menu... and improves more things like icons... but in compatibility since wm6.1 to 6.5 the files xlsx or docx or pptx cames from office 2007 can be oppened here on our devices...
I hope you can find the answer as you wish...
But remember once you flash your first ROM you will never stop... is like an adicction.
+ Que PPC
Wow man, really well put. You just took me for a trip down memory lane. Seems like yesterday when we were all drooling over wm5 aku2 then the cube. The suspense of the porting of wm6 we all called vanila. I had almost forgoten. Time flies.
Awesome answer!!!! Good to see this explanations for us the newbies...great.
Thanks
HTC Tytn
ROM: Shamanix WM6 Ultimate v2 Final
RADIO: 1.48.00.10
History: HTC VPA Compact (Magician), Jornada 720
Yes!!!
Something to remember! nice times...
And some other in hard researching!
Its amazing how the time flies and we still have this awsome site to be indeed with old devices at top of the new OS coming!
Ah! the windows mobile 2003! was amazing but i love wm6.5, somebody here that uses WMCE or 2002?
Hi All,
First of all BRILLIANT website ... keep the good work up guys ... please bear with me with a few question that i have no idea about. Thought i'd put this all in one thread rather than 4 different ones:
1) Does it actually matter which cab file (i don't know what you call it ExtRom? please let me know what exactly you call it so it's easier for me to search for in the future) to use with which version of OS? Currently i'm on WM6.5 Build 23004 WWE R7.1 and i think i downloaded some can file from WM6.1 or something
2) Where can i find TouchFlo for WM6.5 Build 23004 WWE R7.1?
3) I installed the HTC Manila2d on my XDA iis but can not seem to find it any where, do i need to install something else besides this to be able to view the application
4) Most of the time when the backlight goes off on my XDA IIs, i press the power button to bring the screen back up only to find that the screen has gone white and then i have to reset my XDA a couple of times ... to get it working i have to make sure that i'm constantly working on some app for a good few minutes before i leave the screen light to go off
Would appreciate if you can help me with this. Many thanks in advance.
1. yes it most certainly does. if you had upgraded to wm6.1 and tried an extrom of wm6.5 you would probably be disappointed that some of the programs like internet explorer, office or wm6.5 specific stuff wouldn't work. the extrom is a bunch of cabs to install certain programs after a hard reset. that's why you should have a look inside the extrom and maybe google some of the cab names and decide, whether you relly need them or not. for example, if you never use java, mss, or pdf documents, leave jbed, arcsoft and adobe reader out of the extrom and save a lot of space on your device. in general, the rom chef gives a link to the extrom, fitting the rom best, but i think the last official extrom, released by a chef was with xplode's 21202. that is the one you want to take for the newest internet explorer and office and other useful stuff.
2. what? touchflo in general means... nothing. there are 3 aspects of touchflo: touchflo3d (=Manila2d), touchflo cube and sometimes touchflo is also referred to, when it comes to finger friendlyness and touch scrolling.
to be short, the touch scrolling is always on in wm6.5 and it is also quite finger friendly. about the rest... forget it.
3. you know, manila 2d is sooo 2008
manila2d is, as you might know, opticly comparable to an animated version of htc home with a bunch of extra features, and also, like htc home (or the above mentioned touchflo cube) it is improving the today screen of wm6 and wm6.1 devices. it might also work on wm6.5, but for that to be even remotely possible, you have to lose the titanium home (default today screen plugin of wm6.5, with the sliding and all...) so go to start->settings->today->items and unselect windows default and then manila might work for you, which still begs the question:
why would you want manila when you can have titanium?
manila is slow & outdated (if you ever even get it to work, most versions won't do on the BA), while titanium is new, modern, highly customizable, hip, trendy and most important of all, works extremely fast on the BA.
4. ok, assuming that you already checked the backlight and power settings, that leaves a few other things to check:
- does it also do the white screen, if you press the power button in the first place, to switch it off and then turn back on?
- did you do anything in the upgrade process differing from "the book"?
- did you try a hard reset? if you just upgraded, you have nothing to lose?
even more stuff would come to mind, but first post back if any of the things are done so far.
greetz
Chef_Tony
Hi Chef Tony, mate honestly i really do appreciate taking your time and explaining this what was once all french to me. Ok i totally get the idea of ExtRoms and Cab file. So assuming that if i use one of the 6.1 cab files on a 6.5 it should work correct?
Apparently i downloaded Manila2D from this forum, installed it but that didn't work ... i went to start->settings->today->items and unselect windows default and but it comes up as blank screen (home screen) and also i could see TouchFlo as an option and when i select that it takes me back to the home screen saying "Tap here to activate TouchFlo", no matter how many times i tap, nothing happens. So correct me when i say this, this TouchFlo which was showing up on the options is actually a Manila2D app right? I saw a video last night on youtube which said TouchFlo on XDAiis (sorry but can't find the exact link to it) and it looked something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJFBifvgSgA i mean the interface and the screen tapping.
As far as the screen is concerned, it never used to do this but since i've upgraded to 6.5 it has started to. I followed the exact same process what the book said because i'm the sort of a person who follows the book and nothing besides that ... besides i've hard rest it as well but that still did not help. Ok here's what happens (i think), when the device is battery powered, it will white screen when the device is not used for a few minutes (sleep mode or whatever you may call it) but it does not happen when it's on external power because it's always on any way.
in general an extrom from wm6.1 would work on wm6.5 flawlessly. but as mentioned before, the versions of the internet explorer and office changed dramatically. you should include the newer cabs there.
this tap here to activate touchflo is exactly the manila, and normally it should start up then, but as mentioned before, there is no guarantee, every version would work with the BA, but i had a version once, that worked in general, it was just a little slow and some features wouldn't work, which is perfectly normal. you should have a look at this thread and maybe try the versions given there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340932&highlight=iolite
also you'll find other neat stuff there.
if you really want manila as your GUI, maybe you should try a nice wm6 or wm6.1 rom, because manila is really sucking cpu and ram, and with most wm6.5 roms those resources are optimized for titanium and even with titanium switched off, they just consume more hardware than wm6.1 for instance. it will run better then.
but your last sentence there is confusing me. what exactly do you mean, when you say white screen? is it actually showing all white, with backlight, or is it more like the display is off, a pale grey without backlight? if it is the first option, it seems there is actually a tiny problem there, could be together with manila, back in the day, when i ran it, i experienced sort of a third boot splash screen with manila installed and the device would take forever to boot up, soft resets were a major buzzkill then.
if it is the 2nd option, then it is perfectly normal and you can go to start->settings->system->power and set the device to never switch off on battery power, but instead just switch off the backlight.
last but not least (ok, i should have written this above): the video you posted!
the first 48 seconds don't show any manila stuff, that is called s2u2, slide 2 unlock a keylock app, you can download for free, from another forum member here, called A_C, on his site here: http://s2u2.ac-s2.com/ (all credit to A_C)
i wouldn't exactly count on the photo and video function to work on a BA either, as shown about 1:20
at 1:50 the youtube app is not part of manila either, but you can download something like that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227 or the official one here: http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=20991
i really wonder what the last app was, he showed, since i don't have sound at the moment, i can't tell whether he mentions it maybe, but probably doesn't matter anyway, because you are not looking for a paint clone, but for a nice GUI
hope this could bring you a little bit further in getting your device customized. let me know, whether everything worked out as planned.
Chef_Tony
Hi Chef Tony,
Trying Titanium on Xplode's v7.1 but cannot get my normal Today plugins selected - Pocket Breeze, Device lock, Comms, and a Programme Bar.
Is there an easy way to do this? (In M2D customisation you can set the Today page plugins...)
Thanks.
the titanium blocks everything else.
when you go to start->settings->today->items you see, by default, there is a list of a lot of plugins, but the only one that is checked is the titanium home, there called "Windows Default" for instance date and time is unchecked, which does not mean, you don't see the time in your today screen as a clock is also part of titanium. if you decide to work with m2d or other normal today plugins, you need to uncheck Windows default and then you will have access to the old today screen with the static, yet small, list of items. and then you have the opportunity to use all your today plugins. if you want to use titanium home and have plugins for that look for "titanium plugins" or "chome plugins".
and the plugins of titanium can be monitored, sorted and (de-)activated in "titanizer"
all those things in " " can be found in the forum, just have a look in development & hacking section or use the forum search
Hello, im new here and I just bought my first WM Phone (Windows Mobile),
I got my hands on a QTEK 9000 on ebay for 50$ and I thought why not?
So I bought it because I wanted to try out WM since I am sick of Symbian, I currently have a Nokia N97 with s60v5 and I hate it.. S60v5 is outdated, sluggish and utterly crap to code for, wohoo no direct access to the fraimbuffer etc.
Well so since I was sick of my Symbian smartphone I though ill try something new. I know the Qtek 9000 aint as powerfull as my current phone but I want to give it a shot and have some fun and learn something
So here is my question(s).
Since im new to both qtek 9000 and WM I want to know what benefits I have if I install WM6 or any newer WM then the current WM5.0?
Is the QTEK 9000 fast anough to handle 6.x or should I stay at WM5.0?
Since I got a Swedish phone is there a way to get my last three letters in the swedish Alphabet? (they are åäö and they look like this in cap ÅÄÖ) Since I want those three when I write SMS etc in Swedish. The Keyboard currently have those and I Basicly want to have support for a Swedish keyboard layout in any new WM.
Also is it possible to get the Swedish layout on the onscreen keyboard?
So basicly what is the benefits when using WM6.x on the Qtek 9000 and is it usable enough? I guess there is more software for WM6.x but I do not want more software if it will cost me alot of horsepower drained from my phone and if it makes it hardly usable.
Tell me what you think and if you have any experiance of using a qtek 9000 (HTC Unviversal). All info is welcome.
Thanks in advance /50mgg
Edit: I do not mind of the OS is in english also I can live with english keyboard layout but I would like to get Swedish onscreen keyboard if that´s possible.
Welcome to forums
You made a good choice!
Universal is a great device.
You can run WM6.1 very fast and stable.
Have a deep read on my signature link, you´ll find all you need to upgrade. I recommend Tomal ROM´s
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!
Thanks for your reply, must say do not miss my crappy Nokia N97, after getting used to windos mobile love it. also love this phone, do not mind its sice and with Opera Mini it flows great on the web!
Tho have looked quite much on WM6 and it looks sweet but do not know pros and cons about it.
have applied the patch to get SDHC support on the universal and now got a 8GB card in it and love it.
My biggest concerns about WM6 is if its compatible with the emulators installed in WM5, urrently running ScummVM fullscreen with exelent speed in all games!
Something went wrong with my previous post made in Opera Mini on my universal.
So ill write the other half here.
As said ScummVM works great in landscape mode fullscreen after some tweaks, still want that to work on WM6.
Also got pocketSNES but its crap on my Universal, works in landscape mode with fullspeed but cant
jump and use arrowkeys at the same time. so its unplayable since you allways jump and run in any direction, it canhandle 2 keypresses when one key is allredy pressedto bad.
Also PocketSNES in landscape mode somehow reverse the movement buttons. tho fixed that.
same problems goes for the Genesis emulator the arrow keys are swaped and there seems to be some problems with the redifine keys function since nothing happens
when press the button on the screen.
sorry for the formating in this post but Opera Mini do not seem to like this webpage
well all want is some pros and cons for WM6 ower WM5 and want to know if the emulators works?
thanks in advance //50mgg
Hello there. I know that WM 6.1 is pretty much dead, but i'm still using it cause 6.5 isn't as fast as 6.1 on Blackstone. I've searched a couple of forums for a decent taskbar, couldn't find something to suit my taste, but instead i found an interesting taskbar for WM 6.5 which fits and works almost perfect, except for the "x" and "ok" buttons which show as a white square, due to the difference between the WM 6.1 and the WM 6.5 OS. If anyone who's a savvy in taskbars could help me and point me in the right direction to edit those 2 files and settings in the cab file in order to replace them with the default ones or any other files, i'd appreciate it. Below i attached 2 screenshots of the taskbar to see what i'm talking about. Thanks
P.S. Modified it. No further assistance needed.
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Hello there. I know that WM 6.1 is pretty much dead, but i'm still using it cause 6.5 isn't as fast as 6.1 on Blackstone. I've searched a couple of forums for a decent taskbar, couldn't find something to suit my taste, but instead i found an interesting taskbar for WM 6.5 which fits and works almost perfect, except for the "x" and "ok" buttons which show as a white square, due to the difference between the WM 6.1 and the WM 6.5 OS. If anyone who's a savvy in taskbars could help me and point me in the right direction to edit those 2 files and settings in the cab file in order to replace them with the default ones or any other files, i'd appreciate it. Below i attached 2 screenshots of the taskbar to see what i'm talking about. Thanks
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...c`mon man....some basic info....what did you found (name, where, link)...if you succeeded in modding - how, and you might also share...!!!...like so many people here on xda...there are a lot of us using 6.1-you are right about the speed...cheers
Someone from another forum modified it for me. I posted the taskbar for wm 6.1 in Windows mobile themes section. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1086646