Just want to know if there is any way to hide the call history on the main Home page.
I find it useless as it's good for the initial stage of reminding me of a missed call, but other than that it's wasted space.
I would prefer to have more space for calender contacts.
What you're asking is not easy...... You have to use manila editor, search it in this room. Unfortunately there aren't lots of better solutions, if you take my advice you 'll have to replace Manila with somethig else.
For instance, you could use a classic today screen including in it the PDC (Pocket Display Clock, see on www.freewarepocketpc.net) and if you want a calendar with wider features than the standard ones you can install TodayAgenda, it's free and has lot of display options (it basically replaces both Calendar and Task plugins with a more compact and customizable one).
You see, this is a "static" solution, that is you haven't a dynamic plugin like Manila in which you can change tabs and views using you fingers, but a simplier classic plugin with a complete agenda tool..... I don't know what you 're looking, but if you have Manila and you are looking for something else, this will be good for you....... TodayAgenda is the best for me.
See you
I have just upgraded from a TyTN2/Kaiser to a new TP2/Rhodium running WM 6.1 .. and am enjoying the experience except for one fly in the ointment.
Text selection in certain apps is incredibly painful: using the stylus to select a portion of text is almost always interpreted as an attempt to drag-scroll the display. "Almost always" because if you time it properly, waiting a second or so and start dragging before the context menu pops up, then it sorta kinda works. But the selection seems to kick in quite some time AFTER beginning to drag, and therefore doesn't start at the beginning of the target. And Double-clicks (to select a whole word) no longer stretch word-for-word as I drag.
Most apps still work fine, but the following key apps suffer this annoying misbehaviour:
Contacts - But only the "Notes" tab. All text in the "Details" tab behaves as expected!
SMS texting - This occurs when selecting "Send Text Message" from a contact's Summary display (which is actually my preferred method as it is the quickest!). And it also occurs if you start an SMS from the messaging app via menu options Menu\New\SMS. But if you compose an SMS in the threaded view of a conversation in the same app, then the text selection is ok!
I can't find any posts by others who might be experiencing something similar, so is there a solution for this? A registry hack maybe? Am I the only one who has noticed this problem, or am I the only one who is annoyed so much by it?
Notes tab of Contacts app: I experience the same here. But it doesn't really bother me too much since I rarely have to select text here.
Messaging App: I didn't know you can select text like that (ie. tap and hold for a bit and drag) until you mentioned it! Anyway, if you want to select text here, you can always tap "Menu" and then "Select Text".
ohyeahar said:
Notes tab of Contacts app: I experience the same here. But it doesn't really bother me too much since I rarely have to select text here.
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I use the contact notes extensively, so it is extremely frustrating to have it compromised and complicated now (compared with TyTN2).
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Messaging App: I didn't know you can select text like that (ie. tap and hold for a bit and drag) until you mentioned it! Anyway, if you want to select text here, you can always tap "Menu" and then "Select Text".
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Ahh - thanks for that! Now if only i could find a way to keep that as the default
** UPDATE **
** UPDATE **
I just noticed that everything works properly .. if and only if you use "My Mobiler" to remotely control the phone. So you can use your mouse and your desktop monitor to drag select text in the above compromised apps (including Active Tasks by the way) .. and everything will be fine.
But when it come to using the stylus on the phone's touch-screen directly, the selection still misbehaves!!
This is not a workaround, just mentioning it in the hope that it might help someone enlightened enough to be able to piece the puzzle together
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85583
Here's a solution to your problems.
digitaliceblast said:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85583
Here's a solution to your problems.
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Thanks, but i'm not sure how exactly does it solve the problem? If you mean the post by orlandojumpoff (post #16) about pressing and holding and then dragging when the animation starts, then that's actually the problem itself.
The animation goes by so fast, that each time you do this, it takes a few false starts before you manage to time it right. The overall effect is to give priority to TF3D scrolling at the expense of functionality in terms of text selection. It makes me want to rip out TF3D by it's heart, which of course is a bit overkill.
I'd settle for being able to tell TF3D to stop interfering in specific apps, or simply to stop interferring while editing. Actually, come to think of it .. another viable option might be to find a way to get that animation to take a little longer ... hmmm
One thing you can do to mitigate it somewhat is to double tap on a word to select a word, triple tap to select an entire line. I use Pocket Informant and it too won't allow me to drag to select unless I try to time it like you do. Another trick is to use the hardware keyboard, and your arrow and shift keys combined to select text.
Sure wish the good things we like about WM would stick from version to version, and the bad things would be fixed and stay fixed. Hey, it could happen
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Text selection in certain apps is incredibly painful: using the stylus to select a portion of text is almost always interpreted as an attempt to drag-scroll the display...
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There is a similar problem on Topaz (Diamond 2). It seems finger scrolling sensitivity was made too high and it can no more tell finger from stylus. I found a (partial) solution. Maybe it works on Rhodium too.
- Find the registry key "HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings".
- It should contains a subkey named "TFLOIgnoreAPPs". If it does not exist create it.
- For every application where you want to be able to select text add a string value called "IgnoreAppXY" where XY are two characters different for every entry.
- As value enter the name of the application EXE file as seen in file explorer (warning: case does matter).
From then on for that applications finger scrolling is suppressed and text selection works as expected.
This is a sample from my registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs]
"IgnoreAppST"="WiFiNetwork.exe"
"IgnoreAppYT"="YouTube.exe"
"IgnoreAppPH"="PIMHelper.exe"
"IgnoreAppNP"="NOTEPAD.exe"
"IgnoreAppCE"="ContactEditor.exe"
"IgnoreAppTM"="tmail.exe"
"WiFiNetwork.exe" and YouTube.exe" were already there. I added "PIMHelper.exe" (editing inside SPB Diary Today plugin),
"ContactEditor.exe" (editing for Contacts), "tmail.exe" (editing for SMS and email) and "NOTEPAD.exe" (Orneta text editor).
Hope it helps.
That method worked for me for Pocket Informant, using "ignoreappPI"="PocketInformant.exe".
Thanks!
SOLVED!
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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs]
"IgnoreAppST"="WiFiNetwork.exe"
"IgnoreAppYT"="YouTube.exe"
"IgnoreAppPH"="PIMHelper.exe"
"IgnoreAppNP"="NOTEPAD.exe"
"IgnoreAppCE"="ContactEditor.exe"
"IgnoreAppTM"="tmail.exe"
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Brilliant - Thank you! This is EXACTLY what i was hoping for! Awesome!
Update:
I posted this brilliant solution to the standard thread for Rhodium Cabs,Tips,Tweaks etc
.. Thanks again oruam57!
Just a word of caution. My device already had [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\TFLOIgnoreAPPs], with YouTube as the only exclusion, but i notice that the board seems to introduce a space into the "TFLOIgnoreAPPs" portion, which might cause problems for some folks who want to try this out.
And for the record, this solution does not solve the problem for the standard editor for Contacts and Tasks, which doesn't have a Process whose name you can use. So I'll start looking at custom editors for Contacts now, but it's good to have this handy tweak within reach!
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And for the record, this solution does not solve the problem for the standard editor for Contacts and Tasks, which doesn't have a Process whose name you can use.
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Maybe I do not understand exactly your problem but on my Topaz:
- in the first tab of standard Contacts and Task editor text selection does work (do not know why, I suppose Touch Flow has some internal logic);
- in the second tab (Notes) of Contacts text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "ContactEditor.exe";
- in the second tab (Notes) of Tasks text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "poutlook.exe".
At any rate using Dotfred's Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) you can inspect processes and windows on your phone and with a little patience you can find the owner process of any interesting window.
Hooray!
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Thank you soooo much oruam57! I searched for hours yesterday for a fix for this issue. It was driving me crazy. I made two of my own for ListPro and eWallet and they work great now too. THANKS!
oruam57 said:
Maybe I do not understand exactly your problem but on my Topaz:
- in the first tab of standard Contacts and Task editor text selection does work (do not know why, I suppose Touch Flow has some internal logic);
- in the second tab (Notes) of Contacts text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "ContactEditor.exe";
- in the second tab (Notes) of Tasks text selection can be forced working by inserting the process "poutlook.exe".
At any rate using Dotfred's Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) you can inspect processes and windows on your phone and with a little patience you can find the owner process of any interesting window.
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@ Oruam57, you're right, thanks again! I was in fact using DotFred's Task Manager to discover the processes .. but i came to the incorrect conclusion (that there was no identifiable processes, for Tasks and for Contacts) because i saw no change in the processes listed between editing and not editing their notes, as poutlook.exe was still running after i edited the notes and while the list of tasks/contacts was still displayed.
And this is how I overlooked the possibility that poutlook.exe itself was the editor
BTW, i notice that the exclusion for poutlook.exe works for the notes of both Tasks AND Contacts, they seem to use the same editor. I have no ContactEditor.exe listed at all, must be for your custom editor.
I tried with on WLMMessenger.exe, but it didint work.
I still cant select ( highlight ) text from a conversation. When i do it begins to scroll..
Has anyone the solution?
Is there ANY where I can find a way to display a small calendar of the month on the TODAY screen??
I see small analog clocks by the hundreds. But not ONE little 31 day calendar anywhere.
It would be great to have an analog clock AND the month displayed maybe with holidays highlighted,
and a click-able appointment maker when you 'touch' the day.
Verizon HTC Touch Pro 2 WinMo ver. 6.1
Thank U (x) 100 for any help!
Why would this be necessary when we already have the calendar tab?
Use Outlook to insert your country's public hoildays.
If you want quick access to this tab, just tap on the "Calendar" link under "Call History" on your home tab. Or you can just position the calendar tab as one of the first 5 tabs so that you can just tap on it on the slider bar.
I am too lazy to have to press a tab to do that.
That and I want to be able to see both the calendar
and other screen items at the same time.
I COULD make a background pic that shows a 'static' month but...
gee... it's a computer... I'm not smart enough to program a cool
dynamic calendar myself though.
RLCalendar will do what you want and is freeware.
It will display a calendar is all no holidays highlighted and no clicking on it for anything but it will show a monthly calendar.
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RLCalendar will do what you want and is freeware.
It will display a calendar is all no holidays highlighted and no clicking on it for anything but it will show a monthly calendar.
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Thx but I have installed both the rlCalendar CAB AND the rlToday CAB on
my touch pro 2 and I can not see either app in programs or settings
even after rebooting.
HTCTP2sab said:
Thx but I have installed both the rlCalendar CAB AND the rlToday CAB on
my touch pro 2 and I can not see either app in programs or settings
even after rebooting.
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RLCalendar will only work with the old Today screen of WM 5-6.1 it won't work for WM6.5 after installing the cab you have to go to settings>today and turn it on and configure how big or small you want it.
dalavar said:
RLCalendar will only work with the old Today screen of WM 5-6.1 it won't work for WM6.5 after installing the cab you have to go to settings>today and turn it on and configure how big or small you want it.
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Yep. I got that; WM 6.1 on this Verizon TP2.
When I open Today->Programs I see no rl-anything, rlToday or rlCalendar.
But when I open Today->Settings->System->Remove Programs, they are
displayed and listed in there:
"rotlaus Software rlToday" & "rlSoft rlCalendar" are in the 'list' of removable programs.
However when I go to Today->Settings->Personal->Today->Items and look at all the items I can turn on...
I see no items on the list that read rlToday or Today or rlCalendar or rlSoft or anything like these programs.
Just the normal items like TouchFLO 3D, Messaging, Device Lock, etc. etc.
I appreciate the help you are trying to give. I think I've finally found a device that validates
my dumb as a rock persona.
Hmm weird, I haven't tried it with WM 6.5 since I use SPB Mobile Shell and it has a nice calendar widget. Might give it a shot this weekend for you and see if I can get RLCalendar to work.
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Hmm weird, I haven't tried it with WM 6.5 since I use SPB Mobile Shell and it has a nice calendar widget. Might give it a shot this weekend for you and see if I can get RLCalendar to work.
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Don't do. I appreciate the thought and effort. But don't just for me please.
I have loaded a number of 'today' add-ins ( and uninstalled them ) when
they screw with my display res. or pixel widths or something.
Not worth it.
I downloaded the 'trial' SPB Shell program and calendar and I will play with that
thank you.
Maybe somebody else has fought this rlProgram wheel and will add feedback.
Thx again.
this is my first winmo phone so far
along its good features there are some bad ones
in comparison to other phones i used
its alot more complicated and dinasaur like user interface(at least for finger tapping)
i already lost my stylus which is gay... it caught onto something today and is now M.I.A. (only had it for 2 weeks)
the menus are way too small for normal finger and i dont have any nails.
i didnt nottice any major increases in the amount of tweaks besides registry editor. but that is acomplished by other means in many other phone OSes. like patches and editing the install files.
as far as actual user interface there are random one liners here and there.
for example: a pretty common guide you find in alot fo phone forums is how to create your own skin(theme) even software for it is available and beeing developed. not for WINmo.
you would think there would be much more flexibility in creating your own unique user interface. but as far as i know its opposite.
most of the skins are just wallpaper and color variations.
with same layout and menus.
now heres what i need help with
im using leaked TMO rom with 6.5
today window:
can i move the clock to the top bar?(im not that blind, the digit animations are cool for first few days...) i jsut want something simple.
can i make the weather tab more transparent?
can i get rid of call history and calendar buttons?
can i switch the camera and all people soft buttons?
can i make the shortcuts like they are on blackberry phone so it will show selected shortcuts wen i press one button without scrolling?( one of the cooked roms had something similar where shortcuts were under calendar scroll up)
then.
how can i arrange the start menu in windows style but with medium sized icons i hate scrolling thru a long list of programs.
is there a setting to go straight to INBOX and ALL messages? because the preview is very annoying. i still have to press a button to view. theres no purpose for it besides being cool at first.
thats it for now
forgot one more thins
how can i select an item without activating the link?
in other words "mouse-over" since theres no cursor when i tap it automatically selects and opens the item. i fkn hate that. when you try to select something in order to go to menu and it activates the item so i have to close it and start again.
like tapping on a phone number it starts caling right away WTF. makes me not want to use alot of features when i have to do everything twice..
SPB Mobile Shell
Too long try to minimize writings so people dont get bored
have you checked SPB Mobile Shell? .. its a really good customizable UI
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
It sounds like you just don't like the HTC Sense interface. As mentioned, SPB Mobile Shell is a very popular alternative. Otherwise, there are countless other Today screen plugins available (but many are outdated and require stylus). Or perhaps the default WinMo 6.5 Titanium interface will suit your needs?
im not sure if it comes with the winmo 6.5
whats the difference between sense and touch flo? if any
fuzzysig said:
im not sure if it comes with the winmo 6.5
whats the difference between sense and touch flo? if any
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default WinMo 6.5 Titanium interface is the normal Windows Mobile 6.5 UI, the one with the one list and you go up and down and scroll vertically.
Manila 2.0 = TouchFlo3D 2.0 (No weather on the clock and no shortcuts above the tabs)
Manila 2.1 = TouchFlo3D 2.1 = Sense 2.1 (Weather on the clock, and no shortcuts above the tabs)
Manila 2.5 = Sense 2.5 (Weather on the clock + Shortcuts above the tabs)
you probably have WM6.5 with Sense 2.1 (A.K.A TouchFLo3D 2.1 A.K.A Manila 2.1)
you can either use the default WM6.5 UI (A.K.A Titanium interface) or Sense 2.1 (A.K.A TouchFLo3D 2.1 A.K.A Manila 2.1) or install SPB Mobile Shell for a whole new experience.
hope things are a little bit clearer
what about the inboxes is there any way to get rid of that dang preview screen and go straight to inbox for txt and email?
One of things I've always wanted to do to Manila is remove the SMS and Email tabs in favor of having them appear on the Home tab.
When I get a new SMS, I miss being able to see a little "1" pop up on my messaging icon, and being to click it to jump right into pocket outlook and start my threaded conversation. (Right now, I have to slide over to the tab, read it in an admittedly eye candy scrolling fashion, often flicking back a couple of messages to remember what I was talking about, then click to open up HTC's messaging application. Its more clicks and swipes than I think necessary.)
I like that 2.5 lets you place shortcuts on the bottom of the home panel (finally), so I was considering making those shortcuts to SMS and Email and removing the tabs, but then I realized I'd be losing the notifications.
I'm still looking up and reading about Manila customization, and I think this should be possible... can anyone with some knowledge on the subject point me in the right direction?
Do I need to edit the home mode9 file?
Do I need to learn LUA?
Do I need both?