Reverting to 6.1 and issues - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Have TP2 and after update to "genuine" 6.5 decided to go back to
Win6.1 and downloaded "genuine" rom from HTC UK website. Installed OK
BUT seems to have kept a load of data I do NOT want. Simple things
like calibration, owner name etc. BUT more important, I have lost the
twin volume control (system + Rings) of the original.
I am a programmer and used to changing registry etc. but not too familiar
with the various roms, even after reading loads of posts!
What I am looking for is a way to COMPLETELY clear everything and really restore to a blank 'phone.
HTC inform that a clear install should ask for calibration etc. but this does
not happen!
Rom -HTC Touch Pro2-RUU_Rhodium_HTC_Europe_1.19.401.1_Radio_Rhodium_3.44.25.27_Signed_Ship.exe
Many thanks in advance
John,
UK

Have you tried a hard reset ?

thanks, yes - done
hard reset x 3
clear storage x 2
reflashed to 6.5
reflashed back to 6.1
seems to keep the registry intact but so far compared over 300 keys different, some self explanatory and still looking.
found a good guy at HTC in UK and seems that swapping from 6.1 to 6.5 and back with the HTC roms ONLY rewrites certain data, but retains all the settings!
HTC will take back with a little nudging and fully reflash tp 6.1 - but - I feel this is a waste of carriage etc. and most important, need to know HOW!!!
many thanks
JR, UK

you have a strange situtation here dude...
i have no clue how can a hard reset not erase your owners name or registry, this is practically impossible, but i'm thinking that as soon as you connect to the network it retreives and updates all of your previous info...try removing the SIM card when you hard reset
I can help you with the Volume control, there is a setting for that under the settings tab in TF3D there is an option for "sound" then youhave to scroll down to were it says "Volume Control" and you can turn it off or on as you like.

Cheers,
but seems an issue that the 6.5 UPGRADE ROM from HTC imports all the old settings - simple things like call timers stay the same (hence obvious no registry clean) and seems using their ROM to go back to 6.1 is not advised, as does the same thing. Will try deleting the registry from within 6.1 or corrupting it enough so stops working then we'll see what happens.
ONLY wish there was a Windows tools that allowed me to delete system files on the 'phone, then would be easy! Can't find one though!
Plus NO tabs to allow a separate volume control slider for "system" and another for "rings" as was on original 6.1 ROM
rgds

Related

How I made my XDA IIs more stable....thanks to Wilesd

I saw a post on here about the progs in the windows/startup folder. Someone mentioned that removing the "connections" executable file had made their XDA more stable. It seems to be the exe that places the O2 icon on the task bar at the top of the screen.
I tried just that...moved the file out of startup to a temp backup folder and did a soft reset.
That was a couple of days ago and I haven't had to reset since Previously I was having to reset 3 or 4 times a day just through very light use!
Thanks for the suggestion Wilesd
Hmm not sure what .exe you are talking about in the windows\StartUp folder.
All I have there are:
Code:
aPerSaveStark.lnk
Camera_Detect.lnk
CheckAutoRun.lnk
ChgDfLnk.lnk
cPerSaveStar.lnk
IA_Caller_ID.lnk
nPerSaveStar.lnk
O2 Connect.lnk
poutlook.lnk
RegNotify.exe
Run_BTTrayCE_10.lnk
Spb GPRS Notify.lnk
STK.lnk
tPerSaveStar.lnk
As you can see.. The only .exe I have is the RegNotify.exe.
The closest that I get to O2 is the O2 Connect.lnk shortcut..
Is that the one you moved?
I don't have the "02 Connect" link in my startup. The file I moved was called "Connections". I can't see on my pda what the file extension is so I don't know if it was a .lnk or a .exe. The mention in the previous post I got the info from was that it was an executable though.
THIS is the post I saw it in.
Maybe it's a country specific thing ?
After all the crashing I was getting with the 1.31 ROM and O2 Active which I never used I decided to do the Corporate install that does not put on the O2 Active rubbish. My phone has not crashed since before I was getting at least 4-5 lockups a day!
Glad I could help, anyway I had to hard reset mine after i installed some dodgy camera upgrade Cab file so decided to give the "Corporate" option ago this time, just select Corporate during the Boot up and type 0506 when it asks for a corporate code.
No looking back now, basically you get a clean WM2003SE install without ANY O2 rubbish but all the GPRS configs etc.. intact. I have not had to do a single reset since.
Recommend this method to any fed up with the O2 active stuff screwing up your IIs. I can honestly say I can't fault the device now.
Thanks for the info guys.
I been holding back from doing the ROM update on my XDAIIs due to everyone saying they have to keep sot reseting their device.
I've just removed the connections.exe from startup folder on my existing setup - make sure i'm happy to carry on without the O2 icon at the top.
Will let you know how I get on.
Thanks again.
Great I shall try this tomorrow.
I've been getting regular crashes on my XDA 2s since I upgraded to the latest ROM.
D
Thanks, removed the O2 connections as suggested 2 days ago and have not needed to reset since.
Was having to reset 2 or 3 times a day since I'd upgraded.
difference between corporate and personal
Whats the difference between corporate and personal mode?
Corporate mode basically doesnt install O2 Active at all so you're left with the default windows screen (presumably so you could customise with your own corporate guff)
numanoids said:
Corporate mode basically doesnt install O2 Active at all so you're left with the default windows screen (presumably so you could customise with your own corporate guff)
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Thanks and what do you mean "0506" as corporate code?
thanks ...yellow screen?
thanks guys the corp version seems to do the trick, look very stable now. who need o2 crap. however i can't fail that notice that the screen is slightly yellow from certain angles. it look whitish when you are right in front of it but from any other angle it looks yellowish...anyone else with similar screens? don't remember this to be the case with my previous trusted xda 2...it's a nice device though...
yanni
It seems to be a thing with the latest XDA2 "s" and "i" models as it didn't happen on the original XDA2. I did read that the original had Sony screens but the newer ones are made by someone else.
Regardless of this minor inconvenience, I do think the new screens are much brighter that the previous ones...Just my opinion of course :roll:
It seems to be a thing with the latest XDA2 "s" and "i" models as it didn't happen on the original XDA2. I did read that the original had Sony screens but the newer ones are made by someone else.
Regardless of this minor inconvenience, I do think the new screens are much brighter that the previous ones...Just my opinion of course :roll:
increase brightness levels
yes they are brighter indeed...also, the xda2s by default reduces the light of the screen to conserve power when used on a battery...if you fix this the yellowish feel goes almost away...why can't they get their sceens right, same probs with bloody apple products, don't they understand that their screen are the most important interface with their devices...
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connections.exe in start up
I removed the connections as advised in my XDA IIs and yes it did improve the stability, but after several days I found that even though the PDA was working well the phone would not work properly, either the phone would lock or it would not dial out, or you would answer a call but the caller could not be heard. On two occasions my blue tooth connection was lost. though this only happened on the first day. This was solved by a soft reset. So I have come to the conclusion that yes connections is the trigger but also it dose serve some purpose. I am therefore going to use the corporate mode which seems to be a common solution on many forum topic subjects. I hope this feedback helps others.
I have only just got an XDA2s & noticed that I was resetting 5 or more times per day. I have now removed connections.exe from the startup folder and also removed all references to O2 Active from the Today program and the Start Menus
I'll post results in a few days
Re: connections.exe in start up
fvau72 said:
I removed the connections as advised in my XDA IIs and yes it did improve the stability, but after several days I found that even though the PDA was working well the phone would not work properly, either the phone would lock or it would not dial out, or you would answer a call but the caller could not be heard.
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I tried corporate mode with removed connections.exe and installed beta of the new today screen.
I have noticed an issue with losing connections too, and your comment about not hearing caller reminds me that happened to me but I thought nothing of it at the time.
I have noticed a bit of a pattern to the not dialling out issue
Basically if the phone loses all connection for a while (not sure how long) then it seems to not get it back when you get to an area you can receive. A soft reset sorts this out.
But this is highly annoying for me, I live in London and go to work on the underground (subway to you yanks) and when I come out if I forget to reset my BA it will not receive calls or dial out.
XDA IIs Stability
What ROM version or versions are you all using?
I'm also having to reset my XDA a couple of times of day and would like to improve on the stability of the device. I've looked in my \Windows\startup and have various links (one is O2 Connect) and two executables (CommLoader.exe and RegNotify.exe).
Also, when I have had to do a hard re-set I have never gotten the option of 'Corporate or Personal'. Probably because of different ROM versions.
Also have any of you experienced problems with the Bluetooth no starting because of low memory on a regular basis?
Do any of you have an O2 XDA IIs from Asia?
Thanks
No resets in 3 days now I've removed connections.exe & stop using O2 Active UI Not using corporate mode though - I'm not brave enough yet to try upgrading my ROM

Xda_IIs_v131139_upgrade.exe Update

Hi guys,
Recently installed the latest ROM offered by O2 onto my XDA2s, having firstly been incredibly frustrated that I'd lost all my txt messages and installed applications, I have since found that the phone locks up almost daily now - it particularly seems to be whenever switching the phone on/off with the topright power button - at which stage it'll just freeze.
Sometimes when making a call, I'll dial the number, and when ringing starts, switch the phone display off so as to save batteries, when doing the same since the ROM update, the phone seems to hang.
VERY frustrated, anyone any ideas, or experiencing the same?
Another question, with Bluetooth Audio, is there any way to stream a telephone call through my PC via a bluetooth link allowing me to chat/hear through the PC instead of the phone?
And finally, does anyone else find the Network Connections settings on the PocketPC OS incredibly stupid, confusing and impossible to accurately setup for Internet access through Wireless/Bluetooth??
Cheers, Ash
this may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350
follow the above thread. I found by doing what it said about removing o2 active stuff I havent had to soft reset since..
I would also add that I have also upgraded to radio rom 1.12.00 and Blue tooth 3900 (shortly after so not certain it was due just to that but likely)
If I can be any help at all PM me and I will try and assist maybe talk on instant messenger..
But I must repeat it hasnt locked since the above and the battery life seems much much greater.... for instance I left it on from 6pm last night until 7am this morning and it appeared to loose only 10% battery including making a couple of calls..
I would do it again with and uk xda2s
Hope that helps
as for the rest of your questions no idea LOL
Stay happy
Thanks for your reply, I did install the upgrade in Corporate mode having read that thread first, but its still installed all the O2 Active stuff - so should I now remove the bits from my Startup folder that relate to O2?
Also, I now cannot find any easy way to disconnect GPRS once its connected????
yep
I would get rid of the active bits as said.. to disconnect gprs simply press and hold the red hang up button
I will look again at your posts and answer anything else I can.. dont know if you have noticed but this site is slow so sorry for the delay in replying
have you upgraded the radio rom and BT version?????
stay happy
did you enter a corporate code when setting up in corporate mode?
0506 i belive
stay happy
Ahhhhh, I thought Corporate Code was for the screen password lock or something, so I just entered my usual code - should I rewrite the rom upgrade again, or can I run the setup program separately on the XDA to enter the 0506 code??
I'm currently running...
Rom V: 1.31.00 WWE
Rom Date: 12/13/04
Radio V: 1.06.00
Protocol: 1337.38
ExtRomV: 1.31.139 WWE
Is that the latest? got from the official O2 website.
Thanks also for the GPRS disconnect, that helps, shame it doesn't tell you, hehe!
you should just be able to do a hard reset and put it into corporate mode. do a backup first though..
The versions you are running are the latest from O2 I think.... however you can find the ones I am using on this forum... I have found them much better and if you are going to do a hard reset you might want to do them first....
anything else just shout..
stay happy
Yeah but if you back up then you are backing up the O2 active stuff as well. When you do a hard reset and choose corporate ok. But when you use backup restore the O2 active gets restored. I use Sprite as backup and i can't see offhand how to backup everything EXCEPT the O2 active stuff so that it won't reinstall on a restore. I've manually put back all my progs etc and then backed up so O2 Active won't come back.
I have to say that the latest O2 Rom update using the personal rather than corporate mode is a disaster. My phone was locking up every day. I was getting really p***** off with it. Now I have got shot of the O2 active stuff everything works fine.
Hi
Here are the instructions I got form Brian at O2 data Support. Back up to PC rather than storage card and restore from there. Here goes:
Workaround - setup a 'Corporate' install that doesn't include the Active
User Interface
Before starting insure important data is saved by syncing to Outlook on your
PC if needed (do not use backup/restore)
* Hard reset.
* Near the end of the custom applications auto-install you will be
given a choice of "Corporate" or "Personal". You should choose "Corporate".
Note: you will only have approx 5 seconds to choose this option, after which
the 'Personal' option will be automatically selected
* You will be asked for a pin. Enter 0506 (that's zero five zero
six) and tap Finish
* You will see the message "Welcome corporate user, O2 Active won't
be installed". Your device is now ready and you will have everything except
the Active User Interface.
Important: the mobile web, WAP and mms settings WILL still be preset.
Hope this helps
Regards
Chris

Which is Better O2 XDA EXEC ROM, iMATE JASJAR or QTEK 9000

Can someone please share their experience.
I am interrested to know how the devices perform in the Corporate install of the O2 and the JasJar.
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
The corporate with the code 0506?
Is the pocket MSN there on that configuration?
Which one is the most generic config?
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
skearon said:
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
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Yes,you can flash any ROM to your Jasjar , you will lose your setting email..etc,others same as new.
I have just loaded my MDA PRO with the O2 ROM, and tryed all the possible installs (basic, Corporate with code 0506 and personal)
Only the Corporate one is really customisation free. I have myself bypassed the extended_ROM so now I have run only one cab the Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB which is responcible for the video call. Strangely enough I have the same scin in the dialer as I had in the JasJar ROM...
Also as mentioned by... that by O2 ROM the splash screen is not installed it is not true, as right after the upgrade to the O2 ROM and the reset you see the O2 splash screen, which is untill now the nicest looking splash screen.
What I can say after 2 hours of using the O2 ROM is the following:
1. The amount of free program memory after reset is the same as by JasJar ROM.
2. The device is at least twice as fast as with the JasJar ROM.
Conclusion for now I am much happier with the O2 ROM. Much more stable and responsive.
As I am using Jasjar and after your comments I am considering moving to o2 could you tell me how you configured your Jasjar? Specifically, I am using my jasjar without the extended rom except for the video dialler and the bluetooth patch. It is generally running well except for the need to hard reset once in a while. When comparing with the O2 were you also using Jasjar without extenstion?
Thanks, apap
Having used both ROMs, I think they're essentially the same ROM with a few minor branding cosmetic mods... The two ROMs are only dated 2 wks apart and doubt there are any major differences.
To be honest, I couldn't find any performance gain or loose using either one of them and the O2 ROM seem to be slightly smaller in size (maybe due to the additional Imate games/themes etc?) So after going Imate ROM with O2 extended ROM, I went back to all O2 ROM..
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
OK boys and girls...
I have tryed the O2 ROM the whole day yesterday and last night late reverted to JasJar ROM. Reason: maybe I did something wrong but in corporate install of the O2 ROM with the code 0506 but I had no pdf reader which is unfortunately a crucial software for me. I have tried to install it from the cabs of the O2 ROM and from JasJar ROM but it would not work. Of course the solution might be to get a cracked version. But that fact pissed me off so much that I have loudly cursed O2 and reverted to JasJar.
Observations: I have noticed that O2 ROM has more program memory when you reset the device but once you use the thing the amount of program ROM is the same as in JasJar. So the fact that just after the soft reset there is more ROM is actually not interresting. I also found that in the O2 ROM there is a problem with the start menu opening up first time after a soft reset (If you soft reset the device and then for the first time click on start it takes 10-13 seconds to open it up) and this issue was the biggest issue for me to change to O2 ROM. Pocket MSN seemed to work faster and is more responsive on the O2 and maybe overal performance is a little notch better then JasJar. The Bootup Splash screen on the O2 is much nicer then on JasJar it is really sharp and cool
Conclusions: If you like experimenting try out the O2 ROM because you get to see also (if you try out the Personal install) how badly an operator can F*** up the device, it is beyond my understanding but it is hideous their Launch software, the screen looks like a battle field and I get dizzy looking at it, the task manager which it installs is such a crap only due to a fact that once you close all the progs with the task manager the task manager is still running so to close it too you have to go to settings ->system->memory and close it from there. I can understand that the task manager which you can use from your today screen has to be running in order to work but this task manager you have to start by going to programs and starting it manually, It is comepletely beyond me what is the purpose of such a task manger, but hey maybe I am STUPID ???
The battery icon moved next to the start I can understand the handyness of this, but the O2 icon which does not do anything is also comepletely beyond my understanding. Plus when changing the screen orientation the battery and the O2 icons suddenly get a darker background and it looks like it hangs, but it only looks like it the device does not hang, but it is still an ugly sight to see...
If you opt for the Corporate install with the 0506 code I think you are fine the machine performs as it should, and is very stable, no O2 annoyances and no O2 **** to be seen apart from a couple of icons in the Programs. One of them is the O2 install which I beleive supposed to allow you to change your install type, without making a hard reset, but of course it only works in one direction, meaning that if you have a corporate install with the code 0506 and you want to change to standard or to personal it will work but if you are running the standard and want to go back to corporate or if you are runnning the Personal (full featuer O2) and want to change to standard it will not work. After playing around with that I have found that my simmanager and enroller icons dissapeared, but I was able to get it back by running one of the cabs. it was different with the pdf reader, since I need one I have decided to run that O2 install type thingy and chose first standard install which did not bring the pdf back, and then I have chosen the personal install which would mean that I should have now everything on it , the pdf icon was there but alais the pdf did not work I kept on getting an error.
One more thing when you install the CORP version the dialer skin is the same as by the JasJar so I beleive that that is the generic skin, since the O2 Dialer skin is very vague the buttons are beautiful, but have to much light in them so it is difficult to see the letters
SO I am back to JasJar ROM and I beleive will stick to it for a while.
The progs I run :
TT5.1
Resco Explorer
Skype 1.2 beta
Backgammon
Total commander
All installed on the storage card
I hope this not too boring and helps folks here.
srmz said:
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
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I have done it and reverted back to the JasJasr rom no problems and I have an MDA PRO, so I am even further way from home.
Follow this thread to learn what are the procedures for upgrading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Good luck
The Exec ROM (basic and Corporate) do not suffer from a buggy Messaging app on the JJ ROM. The JJ ROM can cause the JJ to freeze on SMS notification and can crash when receiving emails over UMTS.
You mean the imate email app ?? or the bult in functionality. Because I do not have those symptoms. and I have received only today already about 12 sms messages.
About receiving the e-mail overUMTS: I use exchange active sync over UMTS and works like a charm without any problems...Maybe it freezes when using pop mail or imap? What is your configuration ?
And once again by the "buggy messaging app" you mean the imate e-mail??
Can someone confirm the presence of MSN and PDF inthe O2 Corporate mode ????
Thanx
Jasjar or O2?
I have also been wondering whether to try O2. Overall, after many trials I am quite satisfied with Jasjar. I have not installed extended rom except for bluetooth patch and smardialer cabs. I am running: pocketinformant, magicbutton, repligo, netfront 3.3, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, microsoft voice command. I have done a number of recommended register tweaks. I have also updated the radio to 1.04.
Speed is good.
Remaining problems: Once in a while I need to soft reset to overcome freezes. My main problem now is that I cannot install new programs or updates, nor can I remove programs.
It would be useful to find out how others are dealing with these problems and whether thos running O2 corporate are confronting similar problems.
Should I switch to O2 corporate? There seem to be conflicting views on the matter.
thanks, apap
Churchill:
You wrote a few things about Extended ROMs, Code 0506 (for o2 Corp. mode?), and about bypassing the extended ROMs.
Also there was a mention of bluetooth and radio Cabs...
I would be obliged if you could elaborate and explain them to me.
I have the o2 Exec and would like to experiemnt with the corp. mode since I find that in personal mode it freezes up all too often (not enough memory I guess...) but I wouldn't like to loose essential functionality by changing my ROM.
Thanks in advance
Well I am right now updating my MDA PRo from JasJar Rom to O2 ROM, since I still think the O2 ROM was a notch faster in the corporate mode.
I would not advice you to bypass the extended rom install as I found that some things do not work properly like the sim manager and pdf.
You are fine with the Corporate mode since it is the cleanest of all options including the JasJar.
Also Pocket MSN is more responsive in the O2 corporate mode, then with JasJar ROM.
So just go ahead and do a hard reset and choose corporate mode with the code 0506.
By the Way as I have already mentioned earlier the Boot splash screen of O2 is the best till now. Funny is that I was called by T-Mobile representative a couple of days ago and asked what I think about the MDA PRO. I have told him that MDA PRO with t-mobile customization is history by me and I am running JasJar. He warned me that if something happens to my device they can not help me now since there is no t-mobile rom available to flash it with (I do not understand that where is the release rom? did they loose it or something?) but I am still eligible for my 2 year warranty. He also asked why I have switched to JasJar, I have told him that the t-mobile customisation is crap and that the device was slow and unstable. He confirmed that and also saysd that this is exactly the reason why he is contacting me, since they aparently received a threat from one of the major consumer organisations in the netherlands. So he sayd that they are verifying the isue with the users and it does not look good since everybody complains. So hopefully t-mobile will release new rom soon...
Funny is that I have mentioned to him that I hate the hideous colors and boot splash screen of t-mobile rom, his answere was that the boot splash screen they are extremely proud of since it took a long time to come up with the design.... DUDE how long can it take to come up with something so hideous?
Anyhow....
P.S. I let you guys know how is my MDA PRo with O2 ROM
Adobe acrobat reader is available freely from the adobe site, in the same way as their readers always are:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html
HTH
The O2 Exec has OS 1.13.48, which has a memory leak bug. Commontime mNotes synchronization cannot free the memory after use, so a 3rd consecutive sync empties out all remaining RAM. This was resolved in OS version 1.13.53, which is on the Jasjar.
Yes, the Exec ROM seems a tad faster, but at least for me the memory leak is decisive for the Jasjar ROM.
Jasjar or O2?
Wiz, have you reverted to Jasjar? Also, I do not quite understand the memory leak problem. Does this mean that there is a danger of losing note information? Finally, any suggestions on how to resolve the inability to add new programs? Does this problem occur only with Jasjar?
Thanks, apap

New XDA Zest firmware

There's a new Zest firmware available for download from http://www.my-xda.com/. The filename is Xda_Zest Firmware Update_V7.7.0S.WWE20.00_M4.6.5.P7_V2.1.4 GBR20, which seems to be updates to most of the roms inside the zest. It's installing at the moment, and the upgrade interface on the phone is displaying "GalaxyMini5 Eboot (3.33.0). Since this appears to be a codename for the P565, I guess this is more evidence that the XDA Zest is simply an underclocked P565 and more evidence that P565 firmware may well work on it.
Warning, this firmware does not appear to contain the O2 menu software, or the free GPS software that comes with the phone (although maybe the latter can be re-installed from the SD card). Shame - I rather liked the O2 menu interface.
what improvements does it have? Is it actually worth upgrading?
Thanks.
The only things I can see that I don't remember seeing before are a couple of new or updated control panel entries. Video calling is probably the really important one.
You seem to lose the RSS reader, the O2 auto settings, the O2 menu and the GPS s/w (although the latter was only a demo). I have no idea if using the SD card that came with the Zest will restore these, as I don't have it. (If the software is all on there somewhere, and someone could bung me a copy, I'd be really grateful.)
It does make me wonder how the P565 firmware compares. I understand it has a nice touch interface on it.
It seems odd that the new firmware would remove all the o2 specific bits. Great if you want to use it on another network I suppose, but I quite like the mobile shell or o2 menu.
The satnav software isn't on the sd card - only the maps.
The instructions say:
Please note that if you already have CoPilot satellite navigation software on your Xda, refer to the Xda Zest user manual before upgrading your device software.
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I couldn't see anything of significance in the user manual.
Interesting. I actually have Tomtom for GPS on a different SD card, which is related to the reason I don't have the original SD card. Tomtom autoinstalls from the SD card, so I thought it might be that the O2 software installed itself from the SD card provided by O2. I guess that if it's only maps on the SD card then that's not the case, and the new firmware does strip out all the O2 extras, which seems like a peculiar decision to say the least.
Still, it did get me to try the new SPB mobile shell 3, which is what the O2 menu is based on, but nicer. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth the $35 for just a flashy finger driven interface. The weird thing is, it actually might be.
I'm actually going to upgrade my firmware to new one which is currently available in O2 site. What I want to know is if upgrade mine to the latest what would be the changes I may seen... Is it worth upgrading by loosing all the software?
So far I've seen nothing to write home about. The only reason might be if you can't already make video calls and want to do so. (I never make them, so I have no idea whether or not they're supported in the original firmware.)
I just upgraded mine to new firm ware. It worked fine for me. I didn't lose any O2 extras inc O2 menu. It was Oki but haven't tried yet to make video calls.. I will install iGO8 and will uninstall the co-pilot.
SPB Mobile shell 3.0 Rocks working smoothly with my Omnia and Xda Zest
I've just updated, and I didn't lose any O2 extras either (including Copilot). I backed up the Program Files\Copilot folder on the device to my PC before updating, and copied it back over after the update and voila, I've still got my fully activated version of Copilot. It did still prompt for allowing it to connect to the net during the 14-day trial the first time I ran it, but the license screen confirms it's the full version.
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I have a working theory that the autorun on my Tomtom SD card might have run in preference to some autorun that might otherwise have run the first time the OS booted. I could test this by re-installing the firmware, but it's kind of a pain to have to put all the data on again.
Having played around some more and browsed the Extended ROM on my device, this does appear to be what happened, as all the CAB files are present. Fortunately this is a bonus for me, since I'm not on O2, and most of these files are useless to me, and I can therefore just pick and choose the apps I'd like to install.
This might be useful to other Zest users - the hack to make the Extended ROM visible:
Use your favourite Registry Editor to make HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ONDisk2\FATFS\MountHidden set to 0 (default is 1)
You can then browse to \ASUS_ROM\ in Total Commander to view your Extended ROM partition. The ROM does not appear to be write protected, so you can now put all the packages *you* want re-installed on a hard reset in there. Neat.
I contacted O2 support about this issue, and they replied saying that:
On occasions the O2 menu can drop off after a ROM upgrade, but this would usually be resolve by either hard resetting or running the upgrade again. The o2 menu is still installed on the new ROM.
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I have now done this upgrade and have retained the 02 menu. The radio reception seems a bit better as I now get HSDPA at home, which I didn't previously, so the radio upgrade seems to be worth it.
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ive got the zest and am happy with it so far apart from the last 2 days i cannot hear it when i get a call everything else works ie.system sounds,core player etc but the actual phone wont ring it just vibrates ive reset it a million times and checked system settings etc but nothing so if anyone has any ideas i would be very grateful, also how do you know if you are getting hdspa or not is there a setting for it or something, cheers guys.
The connectivity icon at the top right of the screen shows what communication protocol is being used by showing a symbol (usually just a single letter) in a solid square. The letters I have seen so far are:
G - GPRS (2G)
E - EDGE
3G - 3G (this is the odd one out with the two letters squashed together)
H - HSDPA
It's worth mentioning that on my train ride home I see all four protocols at different points, and the hand-off between them is very smooth.
thanks for quick reply i will keep an eye on it, still no joy with my ringer though its very strange. never had a problem like it on my orbit. i will keep investigating ,also do you know if anyone will be coming up with a rom for zest as i miss manila 2d although mobile shell v3 is good.
Have you checked:
Start->Settings->Sounds & Notifications
On the Notifications tab you can select the "Ring type", one possible choice of which is "Vibrate", which will make the phone only vibrate on incoming calls. Just guessing.
yes ive tried all that it might be affected by software ive installed recently i will try unistalling them one by one and see if that helps, failing that il do a hard reset i guess, anyone know how to hard reset the zest? thanks for your help.
There is a contortional key sequence for this, but you can also reset it by going to:
Start->Settings->System Tab->Default Settings
cheers managed to sort it , i installed mini lyrics software and ticked all in associating files which for some reason stopped the phone from ringing
thanks for your help.
Failure of firmware upgrade
Ive just had a power failure whilst upgrading the firmware on my new xda Zest and all it it shows when turning on is "OS Update failed! Please update again". Is there anything i can about this or will it need to be returned to O2. Any suggestions. thanx

New T-Mobile WM 6.5 COMPLETE FAIL (or may be not?)

IDK why, but since I have installed the new ROM released by T-Mobile, my phone is nothing but trouble. My text messages are really slow. Once I click the "All Messages" tab and I click on a conversation it needs 10 seconds to load it. Then if I try to go back, the phone freezes and the only way to unfreeze it is to soft reset it.
Then the Wi-Fi sharing doesnt work. I installed it but there is no trace of it in the whole phone.
The phone it self is slow. After a reset needs few mins (up to 10) to load that little quick menu that is located on the top right corner of the screen. No matter what I want to do it needs a sh*t load of time to do it.
It annoys the f*ck out of me, does someone else have the same problems with this ROM?
I apologize for the swears but I am really annoyed by this THING and I want to go back to the stock 6.1 or a cooked ROM.
BTW when I tried to download the HARDSPL from the forum, my anti-virus told me that there is a trojan in it.
P.S. I just saw that it doesnt show me the notification for new SMS, also I have the annoying (1) on the SMS icon in the HTC Sence. I know I can fix it with the fix that is given in the forum, im just saying... Is that a bug that should still be there? I am disappointed with WM, the 6.5 has more problems than the 6.1...
I've noticed when upgrading to vzw 6.5 my phone was slow too. I stuck with it for a couple days and gave up all hope. I'm now on MightyRom and occasionally load up SPB mobile shell. Mobile shell requires more frequent restarts (every other day). The mightyrom is mad stable and hasn't given me problems (you can't use mightyrom it is cdma only, I suggest pheonix or valkryie for you).
HardSPL is not a trojan if you download it from this site or ppc geeks, no need to worry on that end (i'm running business class vipre and malwarebytes professional).
I was running McAfee.
Can you give me a link for the HardSPL? Ill be looking for a cooked rom, but that will be when I am home. Anyway, Ill have another post in this topic soon, since I just did a hard reset and I want to see if it gives me the same problems, but so far is still slow and I don't give it much hope...
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I was running McAfee.
Can you give me a link for the HardSPL? Ill be looking for a cooked rom, but that will be when I am home. Anyway, Ill have another post in this topic soon, since I just did a hard reset and I want to see if it gives me the same problems, but so far is still slow and I don't give it much hope...
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you should install nopushinternet and ssk dynamic resource proxy cabs, those will help out immensely with some of that device lag. ( http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1295157&postcount=2 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=232414&d=1254156455
Personally I don't like McAfee or any of those bundled suites that dell/hp/gateway/etc include. Kaspersky, Vipre, ESET, BitDefender are all better IMO.
Downloaded it. It showed improovement right away just like you said.
Also downloaded HardSPL, McAfee shows no trojans. I will look for the ROMs you recomended and ill get back to the topic soon.
I'm not getting the same problems with the 6.5 update. It might be the other programs that you're running in addition to the update. I don't get the Quick Menu delay. Wifi sharing has been working.
Hard-SPL has NO trojans! This has to do with how they packed the file. For some reason, security programs have issues with it. Just completely disable all your security for a little bit and install it, no trojan.
I have no problems with my 6.5 update. Maybe you should try hard reseting your phone or flashing the software again.
Seeing as it has been way over a month since this was released and beyond your load voice, there have been few if any complaints, I'm doubting this update was a complete fail. As such your topic heading is WRONG.
And tell us what steps you took in flashing the update, was it a success. How did you restore your data to the device? Is it possible that your restore of text messages corrupted the device somehow (faulty backup/restore software?).
Again, I would hard reset/reflash the device. Load no software or backups and see how your text messages are.
I upgraded to Tmo 6.5 the night I got my phone, so I can't comment on the 15 mins I used 6.1 for. But all I know is that after 6.5 it was like getting the phone all over again. Everything worked perfectly, then I started getting stuff off these forums. While 98% of all the cabs and apps work great, and work flawlessly on the system, there's been a handful that haven't. I've down the "Clear Storage" 5 times since yesterday b/c I think I have finally developed a plan..
All I can say is that the swype 3.9 keyboard totally killed my phone, had to do sys restore for that (twice b/c I thought it was something else before I read that thread) I've tried all the WiFi Sharing cabs, and the only one that works is AssasinsLament 'slotted' cabs. Just chose any number of those and it will show up in your start menu, however, never your CommManager. SoftKey manager doesn't work (or anything to change the softkeys b/c TF3d overrides it no matter what)
Why would I want no-push-internet? I always want my phone to be connected, or am I missing something? I don't use exchange, and its off in my CommMgr, do I still need a cab??
but yeah, I don't think this rom is FAIL, if anything, I hope they release 6.5.3 w/ Sense 2.5 if they aren't going to give us our WPS7..that would be nice. But yeah, back to my plan, I never want to use a cooked ROM, not that I don't trust anyone, but its just damn scary and don't want to miss out on any stock features, so I just created a directory on my PC HDD called "Good Roms" once I determine which work the best, they will be there, I'll do one final Clear Storage and get it rocking!
I actually agree with him. tmo 6.5 update felt like the device was running through mud. everything was slow, scrolling, loading programs etc. the memory usage was too high as well; why anyone would want 66% of their resources dedicated to running eye candy is beyond me. the speed was fixed, for me, by installing cell pro and or cell evo roms. that guys roms are insane stable and fast. however the problem, again, was the memory usage which is a symptom of sense 2.1 or higher (dont get me started on sense 2.5). his roms were awesome but running multiple programs almost became impossible. i could open opera 9.7 and maybe one other program in the background. if i tried more than that i ran into memory issues. i like having my most commonly used programs loaded and ready to go. couldnt do that with any sense 2.1 roms. when I reverted back to stock 6.1 tf3d 2.1 every thing was fixed: speed and memory. now i can have opera open in the background (usually 4-5 tabs open) mylifeorganized, pocket informant, pocket player, newsbreak, email, pocket quicken, and excel. even with all that open in the background I am around 65% memory consumed, a full 1% less than sense 2.1 allows by itself.
what would be nice is wm 6.5 or 6.5.x with tf3d. small footprint interface and a userfriendly os.
I have to agree with the OP. I did the 6.5 update and immediately regretted it. Thank goodness cdguider posted a 6.1 for back up!!
Programs that worked well in 6.1 became glitchy in 6.5. It was slower than molasses, and I dropped calls and missed text messages.
As with ALL roms, it is a matter of personal taste. I went back to 6.1 and have been a happy camper. For me it seems to be the more stable and reliable rom...and I tried MANY, stock and cooked. 6.1 just works better with the applications that I NEED. I like the eye candy of 6.5, but eye candy isn't worth it if it doesn't run the way I need it to.
I had a Wizard for many years and was a rom flashing fiend. While I have tried many cooked roms here, the stock 6.1 seems to be the best fit. This is not a fault of the great Rhodium chefs, but rather, I believe, fault with WinMo/Manilla/Sense and whatever else is frankenstein'd into 6.5 roms.
same here. 6.5 has been a disaster from day one. i am going back to 6.1 .i soft reset 10+ times a day just so my phone does not grind to a hault. gwes.exe is a system program and is the problem, its just no one can fix it
I did do the flash correctly. I did it exactly as the tmo web site said. Also, I have done hard reset and I have done the flash again... no help. Now im running fireSTORM_LEO-v6 WWE, and my phone is a whole new thing. No lag, no freezing. Of course there are some things I dont like about this ROM but its all cosmetic, and im sure there are cabs out there that can help. Also, somebody said that it might be the programs I am running or the text messages and data that I have on the phone. No it is not that because the phone was giving me problems even before I restored the data on the phone.
Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts. I will rename the topic since its obviously not a complete fail.

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