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Working Android on BA! (tested myself)

Hi, yesterday i was trying to launch android on my BA and i DID IT!
It works like ****:
Touchscreen doesn't work (you can activate list scrolling by pushing it on the side)
Some buttons don't work
No sound
Navigation:
D-pad (left, right, up, down)
Enter (on the keyboard, since D-Pad center doesn't work)
!WARNING! there is no end call and back buttons, you can't exit applications
How to? Here is the tutorial:
Create a folder on your memory card
Get the latest HaRET from here http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/
Get the latest zImage from here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/htcblueangel/
(i use zImage-2.6.21-hh20-r16-htcblueangel.bin)
Rename it to zImage
Put that default.txt
Code:
set kernel zImage
set initrd "initrd-android.gz"
set CMDLINE "rootdelay=3 root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk_size=23504 init=/linuxrc"
boot
Now you need the system - Android
Get that: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/initrd-android
Don't forget to rename it to initrd-android.gz
I've got it from here http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/

it stays in jumping to kernel... i followd the steps above, did you copy pasted the command correctly??

rafyvitto said:
it stays in jumping to kernel... i followd the steps above, did you copy pasted the command correctly??
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Try different kernel. It works for me

GVG said:
Try different kernel. It works for me
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Could you please tell us how did you install android on Blue Angel? Procedures and everything else. And also your opinion about it's performance. thank you very much

blackout_pt said:
Could you please tell us how did you install android on Blue Angel? Procedures and everything else. And also your opinion about it's performance. thank you very much
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Just launch Haret.exe
Speed... hm... Almost like WM6

a lot slower than wm6 the android image should be tweaked in order to have proper drivers for touchscreen keys and sound

wow...very cool, I'll be looking for updates (if there are any)

hi friends,
i tested android and seems a good toy
i did make a rar with all files needed, you need only to extract to SD and run haret
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/147524450/android.rar.html
i'm really interested to go further on android.
about my tests, i can conclude two things:
- D-pad works, but not very well
- Touch screen is not working, but i know it detect moves on it
(try to dpad a icon, then touch the touch-screen, you ll see)
I'm not a expert on pocket pc, but i have my skills.
I found an other thing, hardware specification.
Code:
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHardware
if the information is right, the touchscreen is from the same family that the vogue one.
To continue this adventure, i need some lights. I know we have a developer from the kernel/Opie/GPE in this forum. If you are him, i need some lights about your work.
The other thing, i'll try to do is asking help to vogue/kaiser android project, to give me some lights how they touchscreen work.
The last thing. All the help is appreciated, everybody is invited in this project and all the help is welcome. And i really need it lol
udapte (23/9/2008)
Well i talk do vogue android project man, and the answer from him is simple. His work was only to port kernel to vogue platform. I will have to find who made the one we are using.

The touchscreen is detected, but somehow it doesn't work.

i have failed .
my BA get a FlashDIsk and ramdisk in WM6 enrironment..
when i run haret ....
after jumping to kernal
an error occur
can't mount SDcard .it's halt..
why...

How about your work? I'm working on this task also. Need more information to make it working. Could you give me some patches for BA's kernel.

Also the SC Card Message, any adivice o workaround?

w0w...
it runs on my BA. Great!
However I cant do anything inside. But thanks to all of you that make this possible.
I'm waiting for the next release, hope it will run faster, and all get better.
Thanks.

Is anything happening with this?

Any news?
Is vogue version working? I have try to build a kernel for BA but false to boot
Will try and report later....

kernel
I have A LOT of, like everything I could find, files to load linux on the Blue Angel. Angstrom, Familiar, QT...somethingsomething... Anyway, it works well except the wireless which I think should work until the thing goes into standby. Would the zImage/initrid files or any of the others help? I'd like to help ya get this working, I think most of the works been done. I must say, however, I am just learning about how this stuff works. I can't code, but I have a BA, lots of experience repairing hardware like ppcs and I really would love the chance to finally give back to this wonderful community after they've given me so much.

It would be great to get this working. It would give my pda2k a whole new lease on life.

any updates on this?
Thanks

so, any news? android would be quite nice.

i concur. i'd liketo see a android on the blueangel, why isnt there one? linux runs fine on it, theres an older android that supposidly boots on it.
cmon somebody make the damn thing work.

[2010.2.4 New Testing Package] Online..

Time changes, and things go better and better.
This thread is dedicated to test the android and try to figure out where is the problem
[NEWS]
The NEW KERNEL ROCKS.. With double RAM.
And the new rootfs is cleaner than before.
I am going to release a new package (which I just did some small editing)
What can you do with this package?
Connect ADB (very important for debugging)
Put everything in a folder of your SDCard
Supply with NEW kernel and now you have more free RAM
Enjoy the cleaner rootfs (I have made some small modifications)
Download : http://www.mediafire.com/?1tbnyz2jmky
If any of you know how to enable chat in irc, please let me know.
BASICS:
Current Android boot from HARET which start from Windows Mobiles.
It consist of several components. Each of those is having unique functions.
1. STARTUP.TXT
Passing parameters to kernel which enable users to specify machine specific data
Current parameters including screen size, dpi, rotation, etc.
2. Kernel
The most important piece of code that enable everything to talk to the machine.
Developers here are most focus on this area as the other are greatly supported by google and other developers.
Kernel also determine what the hardware could do, and how it connects to other devices.
3. rootfs.img
This is the root of the linux, which initialize the OS. Especially running some startup scripts and mounting folder.
4. system.sqsf
The is the base Operating System of something call ANDROID. For others, you may considered them the basic environment of mobile Linux. For what we call CupCake / Donut / Eclair are stored here.
What we will be doing is to test out the features and bugs and locate the part of the about components affecting it.
Updated ADB howto:
Grab my base package.
Connect to computer before running Haret.
Wait until Android boot complete.
Install Google SDK USB drive for whatever device show up.
droid explorer or "adb device" to test.
If no device found, replug the usb cable.

This post would be updated with agenda drawing most concerns. We need your testing to see if you have any similar problems.
Agenda:
Top priority:
Device can't be wake.
Rear speaker always on.

This post would updates the testing items, and report the latest status.
Everything here are replaced with most recent findings and once more users confirmed, it moves up.
Do not believe everything in this post, but try falsify it. Reports in here would be presices to the level of component and versions.
So make sure you know what you are testing.

This post is a testing invitation, with trials and errors.
If someone raised an interesting phenomenon, we are going to invites members to test it. And the result format would be given as well.
This post may be changed from time to time to refect the new items needed to test (including the return format)
Now, let's kick start.
#1 To Test the base package in post 1
Return with following format.
Machine Type: BLAC100 (other devices are welcomed, but of course we are BLAC owners and would focus on it)
Test build: 2010.2.4
Radio: 1.17.25.09
WIFI ON: YES (WPA)
WIFI OFF: YES
Calendar / Gmail : BOTH OK
Google Voice: OK
Deep Sleep: YES (To test it, disable WIFI, Any USB, and press END KEY to sleep. If deep sleep is working, the system should not be up with key other than the power key)
Wake up: Crashed sometimes initially and get stablized later
ADB Connection: OK
Additional Package Installed: Facebook, dolphin
Suggestion: Replaced with kernel version xxxx would help to xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (if you found out how to make the build better)
#2 DEEP SLEEP AND WAKE
Please post your kernel version (or if you have no idea, the file name of the wifi module) if you found youself never had problem with sleep and wake (not yourself, but your blackstone android).

Lets begin this thread with a constructive approach to achieve our desired goal.
Will Post the feedback as requested.

Machine Type: BLAC100
Radio: Security unlocked 1.16.25.48 (Kovsky)
WIFI ON: YES (WPA)
WIFI OFF: YES
Calendar / Gmail : BOTH OK
Deep Sleep: YES but say after 10 minutes it wont wake-up.
Market: Working with downloads.
Additional Package: Facebook, Wifi toggle, Currency converter, Battery lite.

imtiyazee said:
Machine Type: BLAC100
Radio: Security unlocked 1.16.25.48 (Kovsky)
WIFI ON: YES (WPA)
WIFI OFF: YES
Calendar / Gmail : BOTH OK
Deep Sleep: YES but say after 10 minutes it wont wake-up.
Market: Working with downloads.
Additional Package: Facebook, Wifi toggle, Currency converter, Battery lite.
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Thanks for your report. Developers is aware of the wake up issue of blackstone. It is however, seems still not fixed in the new kernel.
And Pierre-Hugues Husson would disable the deep sleep function (consume a little more battery) in up coming kernels, and we can try it on very soon.

mcdull said:
Thanks for your report. Developers is aware of the wake up issue of blackstone. It is however, seems still not fixed in the new kernel.
And Pierre-Hugues Husson would disable the deep sleep function (consume a little more battery) in up coming kernels, and we can try it on very soon.
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Thanks for the update.

mcdull,
Brendan shanks has changed pid on kernel to "0c01", this should enable working with ADB without hacking the inf file.
This was deployed on Build: [email protected]_071547.
Let us know if this makes any difference for you, and whether HTC sync is now possible.
Thanks

It works perfect
hello,
I am using ANDROID_bLACKSTONE_TESTBUILD_20100125.ZIP & zImage-modules-20100129_022341 and it works perfect on my Blackstone till now.
Wi-Fi - OK
Synchronization with google account - OK
Sleep mode - OK
It is FAST
Call IN and OUT - OK
SMS - OK
this combination is best of the best till now what I tried.
eligius

Roadrunner100 said:
mcdull,
Brendan shanks has changed pid on kernel to "0c01", this should enable working with ADB without hacking the inf file.
This was deployed on Build: [email protected]_071547.
Let us know if this makes any difference for you, and whether HTC sync is now possible.
Thanks
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AFAIK, HTC Sync will not work just yet. And I was not able to connect to ADB after the change. I need to test on some editing.
- Theory
As I already mentioned, the latest implementation of kernel prevent the proper installation of usb driver, and we need to fall back to old kernel to install the driver first (which the old kernel has 0c02 address).
Now, the modification has put the case into dead end. coz we can have no way to ask the computer to install a correct driver with 0c01 address.
In such case it is more difficult to modify the whole batch of driver setting then just the ini. I still have no go in using ADB.

The HTC Dream driver for windows seems works on ADB again.
As suggested by Brendan Shanks, you need to modify the "eclair.user.conf" (stored in the conf/ folder on your SD card), at the bottom, add this line to the custom_shells section:
echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch
And I have successfully to connect to ADB again.

mcdull said:
The HTC Dream driver for windows seems works on ADB again.
As suggested by Brendan Shanks, you need to modify the "eclair.user.conf" (stored in the conf/ folder on your SD card), at the bottom, add this line to the custom_shells section:
echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch
And I have successfully to connect to ADB again.
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Thanks for that. I will try also.

Today, I started seeing the traffic animating 3G icon for the first time.
Great.!!

ADB working
Thank's mcdull ,using the Brendan Shanks method , ADB is working very well.
I'm using the 29-01 kernel and i changed the eclair.user.conf.
After that , the Droid explorer works well .
Bluetooth and GPS , the last frontier.
Regards.

cbolumar said:
Thank's mcdull ,using the Brendan Shanks method , ADB is working very well.
I'm using the 29-01 kernel and i changed the eclair.user.conf.
After that , the Droid explorer works well .
Bluetooth and GPS , the last frontier.
Regards.
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Great. For others information, all needed changes and new kernel has been included in the latest package.

==REMOVED==

can some1 list what is working with this release of android and what isnt..thnx

WiFi don't go ON
In my blackston WiFi is not workng , anyone have some idea how i can solve this problem.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630643
Check Out 7) (2nd post)

[W O R K I N G] Kaiser-Buntu - Ubuntu on the HTC Kaiser (!UPDATED w/DL-links!)

Hello everyone,
I am happy to inform all those folks who waited for a full Linux operating system on the HTC Kaiser PDA that today a little bit modified version of Zubuntu finally booted successfully on my HTC Kaiser.
It is a really in the alpha-state but it works, let's see what do we have:
TouchScreen: works perfectly with calibration
Screen: looks good. but programs doesn't support Kaiser's small resolution. You can fix this by using INTERPOLATION, but this makes picture quality a lot worse. To try it out edit the default.txt, find the mddi.height and mddi.weight values and change to for example 480 and 360.
Keyboard: works exactly as expected, some fine tuning with the keyboard map will be done
ScreenRotating
Not tested/not working:
WiFi (MY #1 ISSUE, TRYING TO FIX): I extracted the wifi section from an Android rootfs, successfully modprobed wlan.ko, dmesg shows that the driver is loaded OK, but:
Code:
iwconfig
tiwlan0: no wireless extensions
ifconfig tiwlan0 up
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign requested address
TI's WLAN_LOADER program didn't work either, so now I am moving to the other driver (wl12xx)
Bluetooth (Driver is there, no BT programs installed, couldn't test it)
3G
Cameras
Phone (NO dialer, nothing, however perhaps gsm-libs can help us firing it up)
Many many thanks goes for all these people form the #htc-linux IRC channel: randomblame, Markinus, ali1234, Ondalf and bombenbach for their outstanding support and help!
I would like to say thank you especially to phh for his awesome help and patience with me!
Click on the image for more pictures!
Stay tuned for: hopefully working WiFi, screnshots, YouTube-demonstration.
If you are interested, want to say thank you, want to help, or have an idea how to fix some things please write into this topic.
Also if you like my work, please consider a little a donation for me
After all, I am pretty sure now you want to try this on your own too, so here is the link for the Google-Code website. Download all the files and read the Wiki to know what to do.
http://code.google.com/p/kaiser-buntu/http://code.google.com/p/kaiser-buntu/
Link to RootFS:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ANRC94ON
Mirror (thanks to jmcbrother):
http://rapidshare.com/files/371631240/ubuntu_rootfs.rar
Mirror #2 (thanks to hoatienii):
http://www.mediafire.com/?uvytadoykyy
Want to be updated? Check out the project's Twitter page!
http://www.twitter.com/kaiserbuntu
Thank you,
DOMy

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great work . please upload link to test

Sweet that is great news! I can't wait to try it out!

Me wants the alfa link
This is so great!
Maybe we can find a solution at my hackersspace.

Great Work... Luv Linux.... Ported Android on Windows Mobile Device... Eager to port Ubuntu on Kaiser...
can you please share the Linux Beta link ...

Makes me almost wanna install Ubuntu on my PC.

Dukenukemx said:
Makes me almost wanna install Ubuntu on my PC.
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oh……thank you……I wanna test……wait ……

Would it be destructive to flash it to nand at this point in the project?

I wouldn't count on it even remotely fitting on the NAND. Besides, you'll probably have to have half the apps on an SD card anyway...

how about a build that will work with the new nomorootfs installers so hose of us like me can try it without going back to winmo, Would like to install to ext2.img files or sdcard partitions.
And is this remotely close to the MER Linux build that progress seems to be halted on I was able to get it to work

working XWindow?

I wouldn't recommend installing it to NAND (it doesn't work so good, for example I didn't have time to test power/suspend).
Xwindows works perfectly (except the resolution issue).
DOMy

resolution issue. can you please explain that? (whats wrong in resolution) before i flash back to ,WM and try it

Michga said:
resolution issue. can you please explain that? (whats wrong in resolution) before i flash back to ,WM and try it
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The problem is that the rootfs is not for the Kaiser and the Xserver uses some hardcoded resolution (that means there is no config file for it) so circa half of the windows are too big for the screen. It is not a big problem because you can move them around so it is easy to get to one of the corners and resize them so you can see the whole thing at once.
Fixing this is on my To-Do list

sorry for the dumb question but...
will this support phone???
no mention in the OP.
I assume no. (for now anyway)

mnjm9b said:
sorry for the dumb question but...
will this support phone???
no mention in the OP.
I assume no. (for now anyway)
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Driver support is there, but AFAIK no frontend yet.
DOMy
mod: I found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/comm/gsm-utils and this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man8/gsmctl.8.html perhaps I will try it later (or someone can try it and report)

This intrigues me muchly, but why ubuntu/debian based?
There are other, (and imho simpler), bases to build on, slackware springs to mind, and there are some tiny distros out there, which may also be worth looking at, to say nothing of the likes of Familiar, an interesting candidate for a non-android htc-linux.

[ROM][Android] Myn's Warm Donut ported to Diamond!

First of all, it was very easy to get it working on Diamond. It is the fastest Android ever working on my Diamond. It version 1.6 ! But I think it's better because it is faster.
Still not working:
Camera
GPS ?
For a better Homescreen download PandaHome. With that tool you can download themes for Android and you can change the Lockscreen.
Also you can download OpenHome Lite, which runs much faster I experienced !
I think the battery is still a problem, because after a few ours it is empty if you are working much on your phone. Also Android says very early that your battery is empty.
The whole Android market should work!
If sound doesn't work on first boot, reboot! Then it should work.
1. Step:
Download Myn's Warm Donut for Vogue from here (The SQSH package)
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
Direct Download Link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?oitjoljxquj
Download the latest Zimage Kernel from here :
Without debugging (faster):
balsat.hopto.org/
Alternative, with debugging:
glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android
Download the latest RootFS from here:
http://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/
Download the latest Innitrd from here:
xdandroid.southcape.org/initramfs/
Download the Startup.txt from the Attachment!!!!
The "Startup battery fake.txt" disables the 15% battery message, because the phone now only shows "battery is loading"!
Install it like the normal startup.txt and rename it as "Startup.txt"!!
2. Step
Extract all packages!
3.Step
Open the Folder of Myn's Diamond Rom and delete the following things:
INITRD.GZ
Rootfs.image
zImage
DEFAULT.txt
DEFAULT 240x320.txt
4.Step
- Copy the file from the latest INITRD to Myn's Rom folder. Rename it to INITRD.GZ.
- Open the LatestLinux folder, your zImage Kernel, and extract the .tar file. Then copy both extracted files to the Rom folder
- Now copy the file from the rootfs folder to the rom and rename it as rootfs.img
- Now copy the Startup.txt from the attachment the Rom Folder
5.Step
Copy all files of the Rom folder to the fresh formated ! storage of your Diamond.
6.Step
Start Haret.exe on your Diamond
Then Android will boot!

is this booted via haret??
and didnt we get alreayd donut 1.6??

yes it is booted via Haret.
There are some 1.6, but not as stable and fast as this one.

mediafire link for sqsh is not working!

Thank you sooo much for this build...for putting it together!!
Any idea if we can use those awesome themes on that page?? n is the resolution 640x480??

I dont know why media fire doesn't work. Now the link is correct, maybe it is working tomorrow again..I'll see.
Today Screen:
I don't know how, but i am working on it. Installation with NoMoRootfs is not working for me, maybe someone can try it?
There you have to copy the theme "androidupdate.tar" into a folder name andboot, then start android while you put down the volume up button, maybe for Diamond the button is another one? I don't know.
Theres someting called "MetaMorph" which manages themes, but it was also not working for me.
The only way i know to change the themes is to use "PandaHome"

testing
im gonna test it now and report.
PS: you can use openhome too. its a really cool program for themes.

oke i tested it:
The build is superfast i must admit.
but u seriously must fix the battery problem.. is that so hard??
i was just on the browser for 15 minutes and from 92% it went to 69%.
if you can fix that problem i will be soooo happy and the android will be completed for me...

WELDONE!
Thank you.
it is not perfect but worse to try.
WELDONE my friend WELDONE!

yepp, the fastest android on our diamonds, with it's already well knows problems: no camera and gps. By the way: how do u set the operator (3g, edge) internet options? Caz i have internet in windows mobile, which is not the case when i boot into the android via haret. In the options i didn't find anything useful to set it. Anyone?

THX man this IS the most fast rom available and i like it... but when i try to sync my google account with WIFI (WPA or no security) it fails.... it says something about not a good connection or sim data..... i CAN go to browser and browse the web though ?!

I had the same problem . Try a restart of you WiFi . For me that was the solution.

Wow thats really nice...
Had anyone tried to use one of the newer Kernels from the glemson autobuild page here:
glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android
Don't really know whats the differences between the kernel site in the first post and this one except that there are newer ones!?
So i think this version is a good candidate to run as a normal OS on my Diamond.
Greetz

restart of the wifi, like turning it off and on again... that didnt work.
Still got the same error.... can't get an reliable connection... bla bla... someone...
Wifi is the only way for me to sync and i really like the build so far

hm. that sounds strange. For me sync worked after it. I think restarts etc..maybe work?
Kernel
The link you wrote is also right, but the kernel i linked to is without debugging and because of that it is said to be faster.
Maybe the kernel with debugging solves some problems? Maybe the sync problem? Anyone can try it?

hermanherz said:
hm. that sounds strange. For me sync worked after it. I think restarts etc..maybe work?
Kernel
The link you wrote is also right, but the kernel i linked to is without debugging and because of that it is said to be faster.
Maybe the kernel with debugging solves some problems? Maybe the sync problem? Anyone can try it?
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Had also no syncing probs...
Im trying the other Kernel right now...
Do you use Android for usual Day-Work? How long is your battery-life with normal use?
Anyone knows if theres a way to disable the annoying Battery Message with 15%? I think the indicator is not right and the bat can hold on longer...
Greetz

Okay tried it with the new Kernel. And your right. The one you mentioned in your first post is definitly faster and offers also less problems...
So my Android is running nice. Some minor improvements in Speed, the GPS-Module and more Battery life and i can wait another half year before buy a HTC Desire ;-)
How are the chances that GPS will work in next Kernel-Releases?
Ade

It's a nice built,and fast,but wi-fi doesn't work,and no home fullscreen,i will apreciate a little help from you,thanks!!!

liviu_007 said:
It's a nice built,and fast,but wi-fi doesn't work,and no home fullscreen,i will apreciate a little help from you,thanks!!!
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So whats your Diamond Type? Diam100, Diam300, Diam500
There are slightly differences in these types. Mine is a Diam300 and everything is working fine...
You can check this by pressing the Vol down - Button during boot, i think... (Not sure)
And also please explain your prob a little more. So what happens if you wanna activate your WLAN in the Settings?
Greetz

The battery problem of 15 % is solved with the new startup.txt i uploaded .
GPS:
I really dont know.

[Q] Android ROM for Raphael!

Will it be possible to make any true standalone Android ROM without using windows?
And for what device are this settings "RAPH800"?

Currently, no, but there is workaround - a light ROM with dualboot or directly HaRET in autorun.

Neopeek is working on it at the moment. It will come in the next few weeks. Be patient!

e334 said:
Neopeek is working on it at the moment. It will come in the next few weeks. Be patient!
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could you please give more info or a link

In the next days i will look into dzo's script and adopt our kernel + ramadresses to get a full working nbh so that i can flash it onto my device. Hope everything goes well. This will take some serious concentration. This is what I am going to do:
Compile the kernel from scratch
Strip-out nb.os + nb.payload.os from vogue / kaiser / polaris to see what's going on
Recompile a new test-nbh to NAND-FLASH it as bootloader for Android
And last but not least: Adopt NoMoRootFS
I hope I and my device won't get stuck with this (I only have 1 device to test). If you wanna share your thoughts or contribute this then just answer to this discussion and share your ideas. I will keep you updated on this and in my free time I will also try to update the various Android builds. But I can't promise you to do so.
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-neopeek
http://www.neopeek.com/en/community...67-Flashing+Android+on+our+devices?groupid=13 (mods please remove if this violates any rule of xda..)

Keep in mind that currently us TP user's DON'T have working camera (working on), and faster power drain (working on.) so if you end up using this rom (when it's done and released in time) you will have a phone that drain's faster then WM (meter usage is PRETTY accurate though itself.), and no camera anymore (until they finish adding support, and THEN add to this guy's kernal for the said ROM.), just so you know this
Currently, dual booting works just fine, and haven't experienced any negative's to date since using it this way. Hope that helps.

Ok. Tnx for the answers.
But can someone explain to me why it is so difficult to make working ROM for TP when the HTC Hero have the same hardware and powered up with Android? I am confused about that.
For what phone are startup settings (RAPH800)?
How much it will be faster with ROM flashed in nand memory than one run by heret in WM?
Tnx

mikx said:
Ok. Tnx for the answers.
But can someone explain to me why it is so difficult to make working ROM for TP when the HTC Hero have the same hardware and powered up with Android? I am confused about that.
For what phone are startup settings (RAPH800)?
How much it will be faster with ROM flashed in nand memory than one run by heret in WM?
Tnx
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Uhm the Hero comes with Android 'from the factory' - it's a native Android device. Just like WinMo is native to our devices...
The brilliant devs are literally trying to reverse engineer drivers so Linux/Android can run on our WinMo phones.
I forgot to answer your other questions... NAND should give some performance boost, but I don't know how much. Probably not much, it didn't do much for the RHOD - albeit a little.
Phone startup settings, you should have a STARTUPS folder and it should have the RAPH800 startup in there...

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Cant wait for nand support , i loved it on my Kaiser

Theoretical question: Will installation to NAND and starting directly from bootloader affect performance positively?

Corias said:
Theoretical question: Will installation to NAND and starting directly from bootloader affect performance positively?
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In theory yes, but so far the benefits have been minor, if any. Of course the NAND that is functional for the TP2 isn't technically a full NAND, so it's probably not the best example to use.

arrrghhh said:
Uhm the Hero comes with Android 'from the factory' - it's a native Android device. Just like WinMo is native to our devices...
The brilliant devs are literally trying to reverse engineer drivers so Linux/Android can run on our WinMo phones.
I forgot to answer your other questions... NAND should give some performance boost, but I don't know how much. Probably not much, it didn't do much for the RHOD - albeit a little.
Phone startup settings, you should have a STARTUPS folder and it should have the RAPH800 startup in there...
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Tnx for the answer. I know that I have RAPH800, but it can't work on my TP, only settings that work are RAPH, and I was wondering for what phone are these RAPH800 settings??

mikx said:
Tnx for the answer. I know that I have RAPH800, but it can't work on my TP, only settings that work are RAPH, and I was wondering for what phone are these RAPH800 settings??
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I'm not sure how to answer your question. Babijoee's builds have a STARTUPS folder, do you not have this?