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BLUETOOTH STACK - please please help me

I have read every post about MS bluetooth stack vs widcomm etc....
I know someone can build a cab file that will uninstall the MS one and replace with the newest widcomm stack.
I LOVE my universal but I carry TWO phones with me because the universal's connection via bluetooth is not PERFECT for phone calls like the blackberry (oh i fking hate the blackberry for everything else).
I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to use only my Universal but the static on bluetooth KILLS me because I am on the phone 10 hours a day.
PLEASE please help me. Fish

This file fix Blue Tooth

Bluetooth stack
I would second Fish's comments about the Univerasl and the Bluetooth stack. I have bluetooth in my car and it is great WHEN it works. When it doesn't work it takes a lot of tinkering to get the car to recognize the phone again. I'm of course not sure if the issue is on the Universal side, but Bluetooth turns it self off, so there is some kind of problem. I have tried different radios, currently 1.13 (tried 1.14 as well, but went back). I'm very interested in finding a solution (not using two phones), can you please provide some detail on what the CAB file does to Bluetooth?
Thanks,
Sven

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This file fix Blue Tooth
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What exactly does this file fix/change ?
I've just installed the WM6 crossbow helmi_c version
do I still need this file ?

This is a Stack changer to change from MS BT stack to Cambridge Silicon Radio BT stack. Originally developed for Dell AXIM (about what I've found). Seems to work fine there, but need to uninstall/reinstall after every soft-reset because of a volume lock bug.
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=392&more=1
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=108767&page=1

UPDATE
Do not install this patch yet. It is over a year old.
Follow the development/information on Widcomm BT Stack instead. Following links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003

SO this is a different BT stack then the original MS and the widecomm ?

Daelyn said:
UPDATE
Do not install this patch yet. It is over a year old.
Follow the development/information on Widcomm BT Stack instead. Following links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279236
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285696
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1073003
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True
reading the posts in the forum he linked:
12-12-05, 09:57 PM
I'd rather go with the widecomm BT

I installed the Hermes Widcomm BT stack on my Universal. Sound is great, but the rest is troublesome. We need a developer to fix the code for us so it works on the UNiversal .
Check my thread in UNiversal/accessories. Or move that thread over here please!

Daelyn said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419&page=20
Tried out BT Stack change for Hermes patch/program.
TEST RESULTS ON UNIVERSAL WITH WM6 (Midget aka Helmi unreleased)
Sound IS great. But other than that, this program does not work very well on my device. Of course this is designed for Hermes but I gave it a shot.
Issues:
1:
Screen flickers (only when this BT is turned on).
Flickers really bad and unable to use device.
Fix: set the device to standby (power button) and wake it up again. Flickering gone
2:
Once BT is deactivated for a few minutes I can't start it again.
Fix: No fix found yet. Only a Soft-reset and directly activate BT works.
3:
I can't use my GSM/UMTS connection anymore. Trying endlessly. Even after soft-reset's I can't connect. WiFi works fine though.
Fix: No fix found yet.
4:
Unable to uninstall this program. Tried several times. I get to the "Soft Reset Device Yes/Cancel". I soft reset, program still there and working.
5:
Hard-Reset, complete setup with WAP, MMS, MAIL etc.
Installed Widcomm BT Stack again.
Soft-reset:
Screen flickering (fix)
No 3G/UMTS connection avalible anymore. Even when BT stack is completly shut down.
We need a specific one for our Universal. Who's up to fixing this for us?
KEEPING this post updated.
EDIT 06: 18:40 @ 21/01/07
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Quoted from my A2DP/AVRCP thread in accessories.

Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.

xixfishxix said:
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
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try this link
it may help
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/increase_bluetooth_volume
frz

Thanks for the info
I changed the channel in the registry of the device to channel 5 as suggested on that webpage. It was the same quality. I then tried a few other channels and the same results - connection quality still staticy.
Thank you very much for trying to help me though. Fish

xixfishxix said:
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
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I'm also worried with the same issue, because I've exactly the same problem. But I don't think only altering of BT stack should fix the problem. My understanding is, something is also to be done in radio (rom) side itself. Because I was using a different radio rom last year at about May or June and my BT headset worked perfect. But I can't remember now about what build that was, because later on I've updated my radio to few other releases.

Radio rom has NOTHING to do with the Bluetooth or Wifi - It's ONLY the firmware for the GSM chip.

xixfishxix said:
Even with the new WM6 roms - I have tried ALLLLLLLLLL of them the bluetooth phone quality sucks.
I am using the new Pdaviet 2.0.03 (something like that) and i have tried
THREE different headsets
Jabra BT250v
Jabra BT500
Jabra BT500v
All have the same crackly sound issue. But with my blackberry (ass phone, i HATE it) the sound is PERFECT.
I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired of carrying two phones with me - i can not live without my memory (or i mean the universal, which i use as my personal assistant). But my clients can not live with the quality of the phone call connection. Now if I do not use my bluetooth and hold the GIANT universal up to my head (kinda like a military field radio) then the clarity of the call is great.
It is the Bluetooth stack i am 100% sure of it.
OMG Helmi_c let me have your widcomm stack PLEASE I will even pay you for it.
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We know the MS BT stack is crappy. I found out today that Helmi_c is developing one. But, still, this thread should be more about how to resolve the BT stack change (or just shut it until our friend Helmi_c finishes his school stuff and gets back to being the ROM-N3rd in need of more RAM that we all love so much) than bringing up more issues about the MS BT stack.
Thanks.

guys,tried almost all roms on my universal,some of them works a few days,after 3 months i flashed with the good old official rom,better and stable than all
anyway,the only reason for this waste of time was this a2dp issue,being not able to listen music to my motorokr(tested with 2 laptops and 2 htc,working great)
so i think is just some kind of incompatibility motorokr-universal(yes,i try all the a2dp hacks/registry editing found here

Different Bluetooth Stack?

I've been struggling for several months now to get my MDAC III working with my built-in car Bluetooth hands-free. The full details are below, but in short, I'm told that the system seems to work OK with Wizard, and I'm wondering what about the Wizard could be different to the Artemis (Bluetooth stack perhaps?), and if there is a difference, is there anything I can do about it?
The full issue: The system I'm trying to connect with is in a Land Rover Freelander 2 (LR2 in the US) Initial pairing was a bit hit and miss, but now I've got the the phone paired with the PTI, that's not a problem and they automatically pair whenever I start the car.
I can succesfully initiate or answer a call from the car, but the call itself isn't routed through the car's speakers/mic, it just goes through the phone as normal. However, once in a call if I select the "privacy" option on the PTI (which would normally have the effect I've already got of passing the call to the phone), and then select the "hands free" option, it does what it should and routes the call through the car. Effectively, it's as if the system starts in "privacy" mode rather than "hands free". Once I've done this once, subsequent calls work fine, routing straight through the car, but only until the ignition's turned off. The next time I start the car up I'm still paired, but calls go through the phone again.
If anyone's got any suggestions, I'd really appreciate them.
Thanks!

Try this
Had similar in a BMW...
Try www.jetwaremobile.com

Thanks, did try that but didn't seem to help, it seemed to be more geared towards additional functions like phonebook syncing rather than just getting a working connection in the first place. Maybe I'll give it another go.

Same Probleme On 207
hi,
I have the same ....
I precise that work fine with the original m650 rom, i search many hours but i found nothing, i try bluetooth toggle with no effect...
please help us !
thank for dev for everything they do !

RE
I try many combinaison so:
if i want to use my bt car kit, i'm forced to validate hands free option at every phone call...
I think it's btaudiotoggle the cause of mly problem, he is included in the aje rom...
you think it's possible ?

TangerineTractor said:
Had similar in a BMW...
Try www.jetwaremobile.com
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Thanks TangerineTractor!
I fixed the problem I have with car kit of OPEL ANTARA using the software you said. It works disable sending Phonebooks.

I am having a similar problem with Wizard Mobile 6 cooked ROM. Before with the official O2 ROM on my Xda Mini S, it worked fine. The car would automatically recognise the phone whenever in proximity, and all calls would go through the speaker.
Now, I have to press the car kit's button (Nokia Bluetooth) each time I get in the car, to tell it to search for devices - i.e. the phone doesn't automatically announce its presence.
So, is there a different Bluetooth Stack we can try?

My Orbit works fine with my Nokia CK-7W using a B&B ROM.

Thanks, and yep that's the same car kit I have.
When you get in the car, do you have to do anything, or does the car kit automatically detect the phone? Mine doesn't since getting the Wizard Mobile 6 cooked ROM.
Do you know what Bluetooth Stack you use, and if I can download it anywhere for the Wizard?

No, just switch on the ignition key and away it goes. Also if the car kit is set as the default hands free if the phone rings it should try to connect to the car kit.
The radio I am using is 2.95.90 I have no idea what bluetooth stack it is, Tom Codin cooked the ROM, he will know.

Okay thanks. Does anyone know if the BT Stack is part of the Radio ROM? If so I'll just try a different Radio ROM.

Problem with Bluetooth pairing

I have a bluetrek S2 headset, Since I flashed my MDAC III to WM6(B&B) I'm having problems keeping the headset and my device paired. I flashed WM6.1(B&B5.0) to the device but the problem still exist. I can pair them to each oter, and everything works fine. When I turn of the headset( to recharge or to save battery) The connection is lost the next time I turn it back on, I do have to pair them again. First I tough it was my headsets problem, but then I tried to pair a BT GPS mouse, the same result. I have the same problem pairing this GPS with other devices(TyTN, iMate Jamin) running WM6. Does anyone know how to fix this bluetooth problem I'm having?

There might be a connection here (no pun intended). For quite sometime, I was using an old SE637 phone and had it working flawlessly with my Garmin c550 GPS.
During an hour and a half trip yesterday, the Garmin notified me 3 times that the bluetooth connection with the Tilt was lost (the SE profile had already been removed from the Garmin). I never saw this message before with the SE. FWIW, the 2 devices are no more than 2 or 3 feet apart at all times, and neither of them are physically touched during the trip. I'm concerned that this might be an HTC problem. Any thoughts?

smonte said:
I have a bluetrek S2 headset, Since I flashed my MDAC III to WM6(B&B) I'm having problems keeping the headset and my device paired. I flashed WM6.1(B&B5.0) to the device but the problem still exist. I can pair them to each oter, and everything works fine. When I turn of the headset( to recharge or to save battery) The connection is lost the next time I turn it back on, I do have to pair them again. First I tough it was my headsets problem, but then I tried to pair a BT GPS mouse, the same result. I have the same problem pairing this GPS with other devices(TyTN, iMate Jamin) running WM6. Does anyone know how to fix this bluetooth problem I'm having?
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No one with an possible solution, or at least with the same problem??

Same problem here
I have just received a new HTC TyTN II on Orange that has the same problem. My old one (windows mobile 6.0) had no problem with my Motorola H12, but the new one (Windows Mobile 6.1) can't keep the pairing, and I have to turn Bluetooth on an off to get the connection. Always have to enter the passcode.
Version data is:
CE OS 5.2.19212 (Build 19212.1.0.3)
Processor: MSM7200-400MHz
ROM version 1.65.16.25
G 25.83.40.02H
D 3.28.00.00
Any help /advice much appreciated!
O.

Fixed itself...
This seems now to have fixed itself - I had to enter the password twice in a row for some reason and then it worked properly. So now all happy...
Windows Mobile 6.1 rocks...

Bluetooth pairing process is different, 6.0 vs. 6.1

The device is Holux GPSlim 236. The phone is Hermes. The phone will pair without question on a 6.0 rom, does not matter who cooked it.
It will specifically not pair with 6.1 roms.
I can see the device when scanning for bluetooth devices, i can choose it, it asks me for passcode, but will not accept the "0000" as the passcode. (tried hardware and software keyboards). IF i type in a passcode OTHER than "0000", it appears to pair, i can see the spp slave service and select it, but once the gps software tries to talk with it, it asks to pair again.
Something is definitely different in the pairing process between 6.0 and 6.1.
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Also see thread about it here from the Himelaya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378103
Thanks,
Rock

Did you select it as a serial port? You have to do this after you pair the device with the phone!

I am not familar with gps units, does it have a pairing mode like a headset? I know with my Plantronics headset, if I let my phone discover it without the headset being in pairing mode, the phone says it pairs with it, but it really doesn't, so I put it in pair mode then turn on bluetooth on my phone and pair up as normal(0000 passkey) and all works fine.

I have exactly the same GPS unit and have no problem pairing it with the probably 15+ WM6.1 roms I have tried.
Try leaving the battery out of the 236 slim for a few minutes and see if that helps. (can't remember is there is another way to reset it)

Bluetooth Pairing with 6.1
In the latest PC Pro magazine in the UK, there is an article on WM 6.1. It says:
"There's another neat feature in WM 6.1, namely that when you try to pair the phone with something like a GPS dongle or hands-free kit that has a fixed PIN, the operating system will cycle through a set of common codes (0000, 1234, 8888 and so on) to try to find the right one."
It goes on to say that there is the potential to get locked out of the pairing if it goes wrong.
I have to say that I have not had any problems pairing with my GPS unit and my car kit, using a number of 6.1 ROMs. Indeed I have seen no evidence of the above software routine trying to pair for me. Possibly, that routine will only appear in the production ROMs, rather than the development ones which we use on XDA Developers.

I had issues with the same device on some roms. I eventually changed BT drivers from WM6 and all went back to normal.
On some WM6.1 roms things went OK though.

Try not using any password when you try and pair it manually.
If it asks would you like to pair your device automatically select no and do it manually.
I was having this problem but WM6.1 does not require a bluetooth passcode for most devices.

mines gps is a holux 240 and i have the same probs
ive mentioned it on a couple of threads, im glad to know im not the only one
im stickin with K's 6 final until this problem gets sorted out

this thread doesnt seem to getting any viewing, so im asking could a mod move this to General Discussion>networking please, it might be sutible there

crusti said:
this thread doesnt seem to getting any viewing, so im asking could a mod move this to General Discussion>networking please, it might be sutible there
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ummm no, dont move my thread thanks. you can start one over there if you would like.

crusti said:
mines gps is a holux 240 and i have the same probs
ive mentioned it on a couple of threads, im glad to know im not the only one
im stickin with K's 6 final until this problem gets sorted out
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You are not the only one
I reverted back to the 6.0 and it pairs without issue. I am thinking that alot of these cookers do not pay much attention to the development of bluetooth in some of their roms. Its not like I changed something on the GPS, so something must have happened with the software.... Still investigating. I hope it works on schaps new rom.

miffymiffy said:
Try not using any password when you try and pair it manually.
If it asks would you like to pair your device automatically select no and do it manually.
I was having this problem but WM6.1 does not require a bluetooth passcode for most devices.
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this method paired my jabra automatically, it didnt even ask if i wanted to do it auto, i juck clicked "pair" and there it was.
When pairing the holux 236 on the other hand, it would ask for a passcode, then reject it if you put in the correct code of "0000". If you canceled it, it would appear in the connected devices list!!, but still ask to pair once the gps application tries to connect. VERY jacked up.

Hissing Syd said:
In the latest PC Pro magazine in the UK, there is an article on WM 6.1. It says:
"There's another neat feature in WM 6.1, namely that when you try to pair the phone with something like a GPS dongle or hands-free kit that has a fixed PIN, the operating system will cycle through a set of common codes (0000, 1234, 8888 and so on) to try to find the right one."
It goes on to say that there is the potential to get locked out of the pairing if it goes wrong.
I have to say that I have not had any problems pairing with my GPS unit and my car kit, using a number of 6.1 ROMs. Indeed I have seen no evidence of the above software routine trying to pair for me. Possibly, that routine will only appear in the production ROMs, rather than the development ones which we use on XDA Developers.
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Did that article describe any way of disabling that feature? That functionality could easily trick a simple bluetooth device if it is not expecting such a rampage of codes...

rock99rock said:
Did that article describe any way of disabling that feature? That functionality could easily trick a simple bluetooth device if it is not expecting such a rampage of codes...
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No, there was no mention of if it could be disabled.

Wam7 said:
I have exactly the same GPS unit and have no problem pairing it with the probably 15+ WM6.1 roms I have tried.
Try leaving the battery out of the 236 slim for a few minutes and see if that helps. (can't remember is there is another way to reset it)
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Wam, which rom are you using now that it works with? id like to download and try it. The 5 or so ive tried did not work.
I power cycle the device without any change in pairing succession.
Thanks!
BTW: Other users experiencing differences between 6.0 and 6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391488
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2240665

Excalibur rSAP pairing

Hi - I am a newbie here so be gentle with me
I have recently downloaded the rSAP enabling software from this forum to enable my Excalibur (HTC E600) to communicate with my in car BlueTooth system.
I have successfully established a pairing between the device and the car but it goes no further and I cannot enable phone functionality. I don't know if the issue is in the Excalibur or in the in-car system. Car is a VW Phaeton and their notoriously complex Bluetooth setup.
Has anyone seen this type of issue and, if so, any potential fixes. I feel so close to fixing this but just can't get that last bit done. Very frustrating.
Hope you can help
Thanks

I cant say . i dont have any issues with my bluetooth in my car. But or course, i have a 2008 ford focus with the MS SYNC system in it, which is hella cool and easy.

I am having problem pairing with different phones. If it does pair I will get an error or they will when files are being sent to me. Is anyone else having the same issue with Kavana´s WM6.1?