I really don't get it. Was wondering what rom goes with USA t-mo tp2? cdma or gsm ones.
I know that t-mo tp2 is gsm but I just dont want to brick my phone.
Going to use it in Europe. And what rom to use as well ?
Thank you
ladodo said:
I really don't get it. Was wondering what rom goes with USA t-mo tp2? cdma or gsm ones.
I know that t-mo tp2 is gsm but I just dont want to brick my phone.
Going to use it in Europe. And what rom to use as well ?
Thank you
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If you have the T-Mobile USA TP2 it's a GSM phone, and if you want to flash a custom rom it should be chosen from the GSM ones.
As for which ROM is best for use in Europe, it doesn't matter.
Edit: I assumed you're talking about an OS-ROM...but if you're talking about a radio-ROM then maybe some work better than others in different locations.
But, as far as I know, the TMo USA rom won't be able to access 3G signal in Europe because its radio hardware uses different frequency/bands for 3G than is used in Europe. It will work with regular GSM bands, though.
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If you have the T-Mobile USA TP2 it's a GSM phone, and if you want to flash a custom rom it should be chosen from the GSM ones.
As for which ROM is best for use in Europe, it doesn't matter.
But, as far as I know, the TMo USA rom won't be able to access 3G signal in Europe because its radio hardware uses different frequency/bands for 3G than is used in Europe. It will work with regular GSM bands, though.
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As i saw here, few people were using 3G in Europe (Turkey and Germany) without any problems.
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As i saw here, few people were using 3G in Europe (Turkey and Germany) without any problems.
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A T-MoUSA-branded TP2 in Europe and using a 3G data connection? If that's true, I'd be glad. I'd like the option of high-speed data on my TMoUSA phone while over there...
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A T-MoUSA-branded TP2 in Europe and using a 3G data connection? If that's true, I'd be glad. I'd like the option of high-speed data on my TMoUSA phone while over there...
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I'm getting mine, from USA, in a few days and will keep you informed
It works on every network I tried so far.
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so are the telus and euro hero the same hard ware wise?
could i install the telus ruu and get hspa on the 1900/850 bands? cuz my antenna can get it, it just takes gsm/egde/gprs instead of hsdpa...
does anyone know where i can find a link to this ruu?
if its not for sure, will i be able to just use my recovery image after?
if not because its an ruu, could someone package the ruu into an update.zip so i dont loose the recovery image in case it goes wrong?
thank you so much!
also to be sure
i thought i could use my phone as it is on telus! In which case,
1. is it possible to be partially unlocked?
cuz i can use rogers but not telus
2. why would telus site say my phone works when it doesnt?
3. how do i check if my phone is unlocked when i stick in a telus card and it doesnt ask for an unlock code!?
4. maybe they havnt worked out their kinks yet?
thanks again
The cpu controlls the radio bands, these are preset, one chip for us radio bands and one for euro, so your radio problem is hardware not software and your stuck with what you got ...... sorry
It's not 100% confirmed about the hardware. But at this time, no quad HSDAP band unlocks
you just got me super stoked... are you saying that the phone might be capable... it just has to be unlocked or something?
mancsoulja said:
The cpu controlls the radio bands, these are preset, one chip for us radio bands and one for euro, so your radio problem is hardware not software and your stuck with what you got ...... sorry
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thanks for the info! il be switchin to rogers i guess:|
you posted this in another forums.. we told you it wont work.. youll be stuck with a 2G phone.
European Hero = Hero100
Telus Hero = Hero130
2 different product numbers, which means.. different hardware. The radios are not software locked, they physically non existant in the phone you have
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thanks for the info! il be switchin to rogers i guess:|
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Switching to Rogers won't help with the frequency issue.
Rogers and Telus use identical bands for 3G/HSPA
cursordroid said:
Switching to Rogers won't help with the frequency issue.
Rogers and Telus use identical bands for 3G/HSPA
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Except that he will get GPRS/EDGE on Rogers, whereas he gets nothing on Telus. because apparently they don't have a 2G network, and haven't signed a roaming agreement with a carrier that does.
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Dave
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
i dont use data anyways so not having 3g doesnt effect mee (using pay as you go)
and whoa they sell sim cards for $40! but i found for 15 just gotta wait like three days for it in the mail :\
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Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
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Depends where you live, im a tester for Ericsson and i work everynight on Rogers sites, devices are all capped at 7.2mbit and the max you can get out of the connection is close to 3mbit.. its not network congestion its just a softcap set by Rogers to not cause congesting.
i dont know if they are made available to the public, but i use a 21mbit usb aircard for my tests and on Rogers i get 15mbit in montreal.
HTC MAGIC on TELUS.
if i purchase an htc magic unlocked originally from rogers will it work with telus hspa data + phone?
Here's a thought!
If you've a question about the Magic, why not go to the Magic forums and ask it there, instead of posting on the Hero forums where it is just spam?
Regards,
Dave
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Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
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Ha on rogers maybe, but on Bell 3G speeds on my phone are 4MB/s down, and 1MB/s up.
Does anyone know if this phone is for sure coming to t-mobile?
sorry dude. no tmo desire. so wish there was tho. im even thinking of using edge on tmo and buying this phone
Just buy the Nexus One from googles website .......99% Same Phone....with Tmobile 3G...and you can buy it now
sojizy said:
sorry dude. no tmo desire. so wish there was tho. im even thinking of using edge on tmo and buying this phone
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Sorry for asking. Did i understood correctly, that T won't let you use 3G unless phone is purchased from them?
incaaa said:
Sorry for asking. Did i understood correctly, that T won't let you use 3G unless phone is purchased from them?
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Tmo has a weird 3G frequency, and this phone's radio doesn't support it.
bigo1087 said:
Just buy the Nexus One from googles website .......99% Same Phone....with Tmobile 3G...and you can buy it now
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a nexus one is $530 and on contract there is a certain required plan that doesn't support family plans.
HTC desire and Tmobile
So if i understand it correctly,
Desire is NOT coming to T mobile for Sure ..
It will not work with T mobile frequencies, esp 3G network
which carrier will it work with ... better not AT&T
so basically no point of buying an unlocked phone then ..
drali154 said:
So if i understand it correctly,
Desire is NOT coming to T mobile for Sure ..
It will not work with T mobile frequencies, esp 3G network
which carrier will it work with ... better not AT&T
so basically no point of buying an unlocked phone then ..
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It is rumored that AT&T will get the Desire. Wait it out until April-June. Also, if Telstra gets the Desire, AT&T customers can POSSIBLY import one and MAYBE catch 3G.
As far as "T" goes, I don't know if they will get the Desire since...well...there is the NX-1.
Either way, you will not be able to get 3G speed if you import the Desire. So if you want 3G, go with the Nexus. If not...go with the Desire
Does T-Mo UK have the same 3G frequencies and whatnot as T-Mo US? Because according to MoDaCo's webiste, T-Mo UK IS getting the Desire. So if T-Mo US doesn't, we could always import and throw in our sim cards :]
guitargler said:
Does T-Mo UK have the same 3G frequencies and whatnot as T-Mo US? Because according to MoDaCo's webiste, T-Mo UK IS getting the Desire. So if T-Mo US doesn't, we could always import and throw in our sim cards :]
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If so...that would be awesome
UPDATE - everything on the two websites I posted are "rumored" for now.
http://www.cellphonesignal.com/rumor-t-mobile-training-employees-on-htc-desire/
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/T-M...rained-on-the-HTC-Desire-article-a_10155.html
Oh, i just remembered... US does not use SI system either
guitargler said:
Does T-Mo UK have the same 3G frequencies and whatnot as T-Mo US? Because according to MoDaCo's webiste, T-Mo UK IS getting the Desire. So if T-Mo US doesn't, we could always import and throw in our sim cards :]
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The UK Desire wont work on US TMo 3G. Its radio only does 2100/900 and 2100 is what TMo UK uses. TMo US uses the 1700 frequency. Ironic that the Nexus 1 radio does 1700/2100/900 so it works on TMo UK 3G.
redrazr7791 said:
It is rumored that AT&T will get the Desire. Wait it out until April-June. Also, if Telstra gets the Desire, AT&T customers can POSSIBLY import one and MAYBE catch 3G.
As far as "T" goes, I don't know if they will get the Desire since...well...there is the NX-1.
Either way, you will not be able to get 3G speed if you import the Desire. So if you want 3G, go with the Nexus. If not...go with the Desire
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Gay t&t also has the nexus one so if it comes to the US hopefully it will be on T-Mobile
hi, i have a brand new rhodium t-mobile version, flashed with the nrg rom feb 1st.
when i use the data connection the phone connects to the edge network, while the same sim card connects to 3g/H on a motorola milestone. i read on google that 2 or 3 users (the phone isn't sell in argentina) that have the same problem...
the 3g network in argentina works in the 1900/850 band, so i have it configured that way but it doesn't work.
does anyone knows how to solve this, please?
thanks in advance
lean04 said:
hi, i have a brand new rhodium t-mobile version, flashed with the nrg rom feb 1st.
when i use the data connection the phone connects to the edge network, while the same sim card connects to 3g/H on a motorola milestone. i read on google that 2 or 3 users (the phone isn't sell in argentina) that have the same problem...
the 3g network in argentina works in the 1900/850 band, so i have it configured that way but it doesn't work.
does anyone knows how to solve this, please?
thanks in advance
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3G with the T-Mobile version (RHOD210) works on the 1700/2100 MHz AWS spectrum. You will not be able to use 3G on your network with this device. There is no fix or work around. This is a hardware limitation.
EDIT: You should have gotten the Tilt2 (RHOD300). This is the AT&T branded version that has radio hardware which supports your network.
cajunflavoredbob said:
3G with the T-Mobile version (RHOD210) works on the 1700/2100 MHz AWS spectrum. You will not be able to use 3G on your network with this device. There is no fix or work around. This is a hardware limitation.
EDIT: You should have gotten the Tilt2 (RHOD300). This is the AT&T branded version that has radio hardware which supports your network.
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ok, last question, why in the band section it has the option to use 1900/850 Mhz?
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm5...5611&navtypeid=6&pagetypeid=7&prevPageIndex=5
that´s what i thought that it would work..
lean04 said:
hi, i have a brand new rhodium t-mobile version, flashed with the nrg rom feb 1st.
when i use the data connection the phone connects to the edge network, while the same sim card connects to 3g/H on a motorola milestone. i read on google that 2 or 3 users (the phone isn't sell in argentina) that have the same problem...
the 3g network in argentina works in the 1900/850 band, so i have it configured that way but it doesn't work.
does anyone knows how to solve this, please?
thanks in advance
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If it truly does support switching bands, as the link you posted would indicate:
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm5...5611&navtypeid=6&pagetypeid=7&prevPageIndex=5
Then, I would recommend flashing the Stock ROM. Then see if you can get it to work with the stock T-Mobile ROM. If you can, then it probably is possible to do it using an Energy ROM as well. But, I don't think it is possible.
I am not that familiar with T-Mobile phones, since I use an AT&T Tilt 2. It seems unlikely that this would work, since in the United States even the T-Mobile HD2 doesn't get 3G when SIM unlocked and switched to use the AT&T network with an AT&T SIM.
lean04 said:
ok, last question, why in the band section it has the option to use 1900/850 Mhz?
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm5...5611&navtypeid=6&pagetypeid=7&prevPageIndex=5
that´s what i thought that it would work..
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That band switching feature is to set network preferences for your carrier outside of the US. The radio hardware does not support UMTS 3G. You will only be able to get EDGE speeds at best from this device on your carrier. You need the RHOD300 (Tilt2) to get 3G on your network.
that´s a bummer
thanks for your answers
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that´s a bummer
thanks for your answers
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Anytime. Sorry for the disappointing news.
What's the differences between the two, if any?
I've been contemplating whether or not I should get the GSM version or CDMA. Are there any major differences between the two?
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If you're on sprint, you kind of need to change to Verizon if you want the CDMA version. CDMA also has LTE aka true 4G, so speed will probably be better. VZW also has further reaching 3G coverage than AT&T, generally. On top of this, in my experience VZW's customer service is great, but everyone's mileage varies there.
The GSM version is not "official" for the US - you will have to pay full retail price on one ($600-ish) and sign up with tmobile or att to use it. No carrier subsidy.
Without further information about you, it's hard to say anything more.
I think the op was asking about the hardware spec. CDMA version has bigger battery and twice the storage space.
Does this mean that the Verizon version will not work on at&t? Or have slower speeds?
thanks. I wasn't referring to carrier information, though. I meant as far as hardware and software.
Did android 4.1 come with the Verizon version as promised?
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SocialReject said:
thanks. I wasn't referring to carrier information, though. I meant as far as hardware and software.
Did android 4.1 come with the Verizon version as promised?
Sent from the future.
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Verizon comes with 4.0.1 with a small update leading it to 4.0.2
ootz0rz said:
Does this mean that the Verizon version will not work on at&t? Or have slower speeds?
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Yes, verizon version will not work on ATT.
In the US is very simple. Two types of radios: CDMA and GSM.
Verizon and Sprint use CDMA.
ATT and TMO use GSM.
The smaller carriers generally use either CDMA or GSM and piggy back off the larger carrier towers.
Hopefully android devices which have hardware and software capable of using both radios will arrive and it'll become less of an issue, but as of now, the galaxy nexus is either GSM or CDMA, but not both.
Hope that helps!
How about in the UK? Is there only one of these versions? And how do I find what version I have?
UK is gsm
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ZPrimed said:
If you're on sprint, you kind of need to change to Verizon if you want the CDMA version. CDMA also has LTE aka true 4G, so speed will probably be better. VZW also has further reaching 3G coverage than AT&T, generally. On top of this, in my experience VZW's customer service is great, but everyone's mileage varies there.
The GSM version is not "official" for the US - you will have to pay full retail price on one ($600-ish) and sign up with tmobile or att to use it. No carrier subsidy.
Without further information about you, it's hard to say anything more.
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LTE IS NOT true 4G.
There is no True 4G in the US.
Google the definition of 4G.
Hi everybody, I have a verizon Galaxy Nexus I understand it's a CDMA, is there any hardware differences between this and a GSM one? or is only software? will this device work on a GSM network if I flash a GSM Rom on it?
thanks for your help!
jhonyDroid said:
Hi everybody, I have a verizon Galaxy Nexus I understand it's a CDMA, is there any hardware differences between this and a GSM one? or is only software? will this device work on a GSM network if I flash a GSM Rom on it?
thanks for your help!
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Don't even think about flashing a GSM rom on it.
mudferret said:
Don't even think about flashing a GSM rom on it.
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thanks for your answer!
I thought it was some kind of adventurer try to mix roms but can you tell me what would happen by doing this? and, is there any way to get this CDMA phone work on a GSM network?
best regards!
jhonyDroid said:
Hi everybody, I have a verizon Galaxy Nexus I understand it's a CDMA, is there any hardware differences between this and a GSM one? or is only software? will this device work on a GSM network if I flash a GSM Rom on it?
thanks for your help!
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Your CDMA version has a CDMA radio, a LTE radio, and antennas tuned to the correct LTE and CDMA frequencies used by Verizon.
The GSM version has a GSM radio with antenna turned to all common GSM frequencies.
The radios and antenna hardware are completely different in these versions and so by this fact the firmware (the software or flash able 'radio') is 100% different. Flashing the wrong one can cause all kinds of issues from not working until reflashing the correct ones yo bricking your radio (depending on how the firmware is flashed, size differences, etc.)
CDMA and GSM and LTE are all very different. LTE is based off GSM which is why you have a SIM card in LTE (though CDMA can have SIM cards if that is how the company set it up, which also is why without the SIM card you can't use your CDMA parts either).
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jhonyDroid said:
I thought it was some kind of adventurer try to mix roms but can you tell me what would happen by doing this?
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You will destroy your phone. It won't work ever again.
is there any way to get this CDMA phone work on a GSM network?
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No. It's a hardware issue that can't be fixed with software.
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siberslug said:
LTE IS NOT true 4G.
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Sure it is. Just like EDGE is "officially" 3G whenever carriers think it's in their marketing interest to say so. No one owns the term "3G" or "4G" so there's no such thing as "true" or "official". It is certainly marked performance advance over HSPA+, with real world LTE uplink speeds higher than HSPA downlink. It's at least as big of a jump from EDGE to UMTS (200kbps to 600kbps) was.
If you're referring to LTE Advanced, expect that technology to be labelled 5G when it hits the carriers. Why? Why the hell not? It's just a stupid marketing gimmick. Most consumers don't even know what the hell it means, with something like 70% of the population thinking that the iPhone 4/4S has 4G. Mo G's mo money.
Just to go along with what you are saying, the ITU changed it so that the current "4G" techs such as LTE, WIMAX, and HSPA+ are considered 4G.
I found out quite late that Tmobile is limited to 2G data on IPhones.. (or atleast IPhone 4S). I use TMobile prepaid 3$/day package as my usage is limited and sporadic.
Considering the S3, can anyone please tell me if Samsung has released distinct versions of the S3 for the two networks, or the same model covers both?.
Thanks.
I believe att has the lte version. Yes different phones.
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Thanks Mr?Bmg
I suppose, the question I really wanted to ask was, is one network's version more of an international phone than the other with regards to data?... i.e if I were to take the phone to a)UK/Europe, b) Pakistan,
Would both phone be able to get atleast 3G, or, would the TMobile version still be restricted to EDGE?.
Thanks.
Riz
RizSher said:
Thanks Mr?Bmg
I suppose, the question I really wanted to ask was, is one network's version more of an international phone than the other with regards to data?... i.e if I were to take the phone to a)UK/Europe, b) Pakistan,
Would both phone be able to get atleast 3G, or, would the TMobile version still be restricted to EDGE?.
Thanks.
Riz
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There are different versions of the S3 for both the ATT and TMobile. On the S2, the difference was in the apearance, where the ATT was a little more square like, and TMobile had rounded edges. In the S3 though, the only difference is the name printed on the back (where it has either the Tmobile or the ATT logo). As for the mobile network support, I think that only the radio is different. Even now, you are not limited to 2g by your phone, but rather whatever TMobile decided to give you. Both phones will get atleast 3g. I know that TMobile version does not have LTE support, but im not sure about the ATT version.
RizSher said:
Thanks Mr?Bmg
I suppose, the question I really wanted to ask was, is one network's version more of an international phone than the other with regards to data?... i.e if I were to take the phone to a)UK/Europe, b) Pakistan,
Would both phone be able to get atleast 3G, or, would the TMobile version still be restricted to EDGE?.
Thanks.
Riz
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If you bring an AT&T phone to T-Mobile, you will not get 4G.
You can best 3G if your AT&T Phone has the 1900 range, you can get 3G on T-Mobile's service. Not sure how well it will be since it's only picking 1900 without others.
If you unlock your T-Mobile S3 you should be able to get 3G/HSPA+ on AT&T. The T-Mobile S3 is a pentaband device.
RizSher said:
I found out quite late that Tmobile is limited to 2G data on IPhones.. (or atleast IPhone 4S). I use TMobile prepaid 3$/day package as my usage is limited and sporadic.
Considering the S3, can anyone please tell me if Samsung has released distinct versions of the S3 for the two networks, or the same model covers both?.
Thanks.
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If you are using an iPhone you might as well do the $2 a day since the $3 will only affect you if your phone gets 4G. They will be exactly the same performance on the $2 since it will just be on unlimited EDGE.
rmanne said:
There are different versions of the S3 for both the ATT and TMobile. On the S2, the difference was in the apearance, where the ATT was a little more square like, and TMobile had rounded edges. In the S3 though, the only difference is the name printed on the back (where it has either the Tmobile or the ATT logo). As for the mobile network support, I think that only the radio is different. Even now, you are not limited to 2g by your phone, but rather whatever TMobile decided to give you. Both phones will get atleast 3g. I know that TMobile version does not have LTE support, but im not sure about the ATT version.
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The AT&T version does not get 3G on T-Mobile save for a few sporadic locations across the states. And yes, it also has LTE.
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The AT&T version does not get 3G on T-Mobile save for a few sporadic locations across the states. And yes, it also has LTE.
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I also want to know about this
suhailstar said:
I also want to know about this
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Know about what?
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