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Known Issues of The touch pro2 ( Rhodium )

First, Sorry for my broken english
I want all Issues of the touch pro 2 ( rhodium ) posted in this thread.
Here are as far as i know
- Touch flo 3D isnt starting sometimes
- Sometimes, volume buttons dont work ( you will be returned to home screen when you push on it )
Please add more if known, so other people with same problem, can see if its known or not.

these past few days. my phone is acting weird. The screen keep rotating as if i open the keyboard (I enable the sound when opening the keyboard. that's how i notice it)

crashes if closing apps before they have fully loaded
intermittantly rotates the screen and gets stuck on what ever its rotated to
random crashing if you try and use it with some sort of speed it just cant cope and crashes. i now am wishing i never bothered with htc anymore but i know its not them its microsoft.

But pls also mention the software you all installed.
Especially this screen rotating is fascinating.
As bug I may ad the notitifaction queue which gets corrupted with duplicates.
maybe the push internet is doing that. (Separate post)

Can't dial from Bluetooth device (car handsfree) when device is locked

Had a strange one this morning. The phone received an sms, and it made it's bleep and vibration to let me know. But then it wouldn't stop vibrating. It went on for about 30 seconds. So I powered down with long push of power button, and selecting yes. It still vibrated after shutdown. So I went to take back off to try a soft reset, and then it stopped. Powered up, and no weird things like that. So put it down to a glitch...

My main issue is that reading an SMS doesn't always mark it as read. I will have to get the keyboard out and scroll through the messages with the arrow keys to "read" the messages I have in a thread.

Fullscreen problem (selecting behind the active window)

I've had this problem for a while, but I'm pretty much fed up with it to this point that I've decided to ask about it. I don't know if this is restricted to the TP2, but I'd imagine it's probably a Windows 6 problem more than the device.
The issue is that when I play any full screen application (one that covers the top and bottom menu bars), typically games, sometimes it loses it's status as the active window but still remains in front of everything else. This means that where ever I pres on the screen, it will select whatever is behind the game and therefore gives me no ability to select the game itself.
This is most prominent with the keyboard button in the bottom bar. It's not uncommon for me to have to press something on the edge of the screen in one of these applications only to have the keyboard pop up and garble all of the graphics. Once this occurs, there is no real easy way to go back. I have to open up task manager and either close the full screen app or activate it again. Another time this becomes a big issue is if I'm on the program tab of TF3D (which frequently you are after you've opened an app) and basically anywhere I press just starts opening applications left and right.
Does anyone know why this occurs and is there a fix for it?

Few issues with my Verizon TP2..

Ok, I've had my TP2 for a couple of weeks now and I love it, but there are a few things I wanna get addressed and possibly fixed.
First things first, my phone was originally bought brand new from Verizon. It is now fully flashed to CricKet.
The first thing I wanna know is if there is a way to disable the built in HTC messaging interface. I'm fine with the older style of messaging (like that of the TouchPro 1). The HTC messaging seems slow and sluggish, and aside from accidentally clicking on the text message, I never use it. (Pics 1-4)
Secondly. After texting a message and pressing send, if I hit OK at the top right hand corner, it goes out and back to all my messages and usually hangs for about 40 seconds before I can do anything. Nothing will work. If I hit the end/home hard key, it will just beep, light up, but do nothing. I know when it hangs because it leaves a small part of the message at the top. (See top of pic 5)
Lastly. If I have my phone at the home screen and I get a text message my keyboard opens up on the home screen. Is there a fix or setting for this? Yes, I do have Swype (from the OmniaII), but this was a problem before swype, so I have eliminated Swype as a culprit. (See pic 6)
Oh and I'm running windows 6.5 professional

anyone? help?

This cab may disable the HTC SMS module for you...there's a couple of cabs that can do that (some work with some ROMs), this is the only one I happen to have handy. If it doesn't work for you, you can find others just by searching "disable HTC sms cab"

The attached worked for my keyboard, but mine was only appearing in txt messages, not on the home screen like yours.
I experience that same text at the top of the screen, but mine only lasts for seconds at most. I just reset my phone a couple days back so I only have a couple hundred messages, but even with a couple months worth I never had to wait that long. What are your running ram %s?
Whats the exact ROM you are using?

Infuriating SMS bug.

My Tilt 2 and my girlfriend's Tilt 2 suffer from the same issue. About 25% of the time when we open a text message, our phones do not scroll down to the most recent message nor give us a cursor so we can start typing a reply.
You have to manually scroll down to the typing area and manually click in the blank space, and even then, when you start typing and get to the end of a line, instead of automatically dropping down to the next line, the phone inexplicably scrolls back up to an older message. You then have to scroll back down and click in the typing area where your message was cut off to resume typing, but each time you get to the end of a line, it scrolls back up again. Using the task manager to close the sms application fixes the problem, but it reoccurs about one out of every four text messages we receive. I have applied both of the hotfixes, the sms patch and the caller id patch.
It's so much of an annoyance, she, being a bigger texter than I, hates the phone. If anyone else has had this issue, do any of the extant cooked roms fix the issue? We are both using the stock At&T Rom minus the crud.

sounds like it could be a case of the different programs interfering with each other. install one by one and see if that makes a difference, you might come to realize something. If you want to just uninstall those programs you should use an advanced uninstaller like TMS or SK Tools to make sure you change the registry settings.
I'd really suggest grabbing a visual kitchen and making your own custom ROM. It is really simple and in my case has been the most stable and quickest ROM i've used to date.

thats just the Windows Mobile messaging... its horrible, they should make a new one lol, Like Handcent SMS for android, that is like THE best texting app. but about the issue, it sounds like you just need to purge your SMS, I do it once a week,but I also do a PIM backup before so, just incase

I do.
I purge it every day. I delete everything, and then I empty out the deleted messages if that's what you mean. It pisses me off. Her phone has virtually nothing on it. It's completely stock. I know there isn't anything interfering with it.

same problem here.

No solution here, but I can more further identify the problem....
Does this seem accurate?
When I select a text message from the message inbox, it displays the message just like a normal reply window with the keyboard at the bottom, but then takes a second or so and then the keyboard hides and the message is displayed full screen and the reply area with the cursor loses focus. Then I have to click in the reply box at the bottom at which point the keyboard has to pop up again and resize the message. The action is as if I have touched the message itself which would of course expand the message and minimize the keyboard.
I was originally thinking it is a left-over phantom touch from the previous screen but that has been ruled out. Maybe this is a timing issue in the registry? It doesn't seem like it. It happens with every new message that you want to reply to. I'm at a total loss, but very annoyed by this. The email section works fine. I see a list of messages, I select one, if I choose to reply, the message pops up and the cursor appears inline right where I should type and the keyboard pops up at the same time. Once I have replied to a message, even if I reboot the phone, if I go back to a message I have replied to the keyboard is already up with the cursor focused in the reply box. I don't know why it doesn't do this when a new message comes in. Maybe it thinks you need more space to read the message, but this is silly considering text messages are usually very short….ie Short Messaging Service…
I saw someone else post that this is just sucky windows messaging. Well, it didn't do this on my Treo 750 with WM6.1. But there I had a regular keyboard, not a software keyboard on a touch screen.
So my guess is that something in the messaging system may be looking for the hardware keyboard and assuming we have it open and displaying the messages full screen.
So what I think we really need to ask is if there is a way to force the keyboard to just be open and put the cursor focus in the reply box when I open a new text message by default?
Alternatively, is there a messaging replacement that eliminates this problem?

Disappearing keyboard still not fixed?

Hey guys,
I'm running a Lumia 800 with the 8107 OS so I thought the disappearing Keyboard issue should have been fixed. However sometimes, when I write a mail or message it happens that the Keyboard still vanishes. I was not able to reproduce the Problem in parts. Could you please try the following and tell me what happens:
1. Go to the Home Screen
2. Open either an app from the home Screen or from the programs list
3. As soon as the Programm Shows the loading Screen hit the search button
4. Tap on the search box and wait
5. The Keyboard should now dissapear after a few seconds
This works best with Applications that take some time to load, like Facebook or Board Express. Instead of opening the Search App you can go into every app that opens the keyboard. I also guess that Network related callbacks are responsible for the dissapearing keyboard. You can try the following as well:
1. Open the Facebook App
2. Wait for it to load and Display the recent items
3. Hit "..." and "Refresh"
4. Tap the Search Button and open the Keyboard
5. After a few seconds the Keyboard disappears.
It would be great if some of you guys could try to reproduce this problem.
Regards
Chris

ChrisKringel said:
Hey guys,
I'm running a Lumia 800 with the 8107 OS so I thought the disappearing Keyboard issue should have been fixed. However sometimes, when I write a mail or message it happens that the Keyboard still vanishes. I was not able to reproduce the Problem in parts. Could you please try the following and tell me what happens:
1. Go to the Home Screen
2. Open either an app from the home Screen or from the programs list
3. As soon as the Programm Shows the loading Screen hit the search button
4. Tap on the search box and wait
5. The Keyboard should now dissapear after a few seconds
This works best with Applications that take some time to load, like Facebook or Board Express. Instead of opening the Search App you can go into every app that opens the keyboard. I also guess that Network related callbacks are responsible for the dissapearing keyboard. You can try the following as well:
1. Open the Facebook App
2. Wait for it to load and Display the recent items
3. Hit "..." and "Refresh"
4. Tap the Search Button and open the Keyboard
5. After a few seconds the Keyboard disappears.
It would be great if some of you guys could try to reproduce this problem.
Regards
Chris
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The keyboard isn't disappearing in that case, the app is loading, and you're intentionally trying to type before it's fully loaded to get this behavior. The disappearing keyboard issue would occur MID SENTENCE while typing something as simple as a text after the message had already loaded. What you're doing is intentional and happens everywhere.

FiyaFleye said:
The keyboard isn't disappearing in that case, the app is loading, and you're intentionally trying to type before it's fully loaded to get this behavior. The disappearing keyboard issue would occur MID SENTENCE while typing something as simple as a text after the message had already loaded. What you're doing is intentional and happens everywhere.
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Well, this are only two Scenarios where the Keyboard dissapears. However sometimes while composing a longer message for instance, it goes away. And I don't think this behavior is intended. Imagine you're in an area with bad coverage and hit refresh. This refresh can take around 20 or 30 seconds so you decide to write a text. Halfway in the text, the Keyboard will disappear while you are writing. At least that occurs on my device.

ChrisKringel said:
Well, this are only two Scenarios where the Keyboard dissapears. However sometimes while composing a longer message for instance, it goes away. And I don't think this behavior is intended. Imagine you're in an area with bad coverage and hit refresh. This refresh can take around 20 or 30 seconds so you decide to write a text. Halfway in the text, the Keyboard will disappear while you are writing. At least that occurs on my device.
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I'm not sure what to tell you then. I know that the disappearing keyboard was solved for me. It's pretty much a given that on any device, because this used to happen to me on Android and WinMo, that refreshing incoming data will cause your typing indicator to disappear once the data has completely loaded. You can try this on Internet Explorer on your computer. It might be a hassle, but that occured before Mango's keyboard issue. As far as typing a long message, I've typed 10 page texts and haven't had the keyboard disappear once. When I had the disappearing keyboard, it would disappear every 3-4 words, sometimes quicker, and was quite annoying.

i think its not an internet related problem, it is caused by ram issues...if i play with angry birds with dehydration hack, then i switch to an incoming message and quickly reply, the keyboard disappears after 2 sec...lg o7, sorry for bad english..

Updated to 8107 last week and haven't seen the disappearing keyboard since. I call fail on this thread.

Haven't had any issues with disappearing keyboard since 8107, although it was frequent prior.

for some reason, it took two updates for my keyboard to stay. I did an update last week...and for whatever reason, i had another update last night, which appeared to be the same one I did earlier that week...don't know why.
but since, i've had no keyboard issues.

I second the one who said this thread is fail.
The method you gave is a way to force the page to refresh, so as soon as the page (or in this case the app or Bing search) loads with the keyboard, the background agents from the opened app causes the page you are in to refresh as well, thus the keyboard disappears.
The incident before, is when you are already typing a message for 10 seconds or so, then the keyboard will suddenly disappear for no apparent reason. In some occasions, it disappears again when you type on the message box as if the keyboard is doing a "double take" disappearing action = annoying.

That's exactly what I said. He's purposely trying to type while data/agents/pieces of the app are still loading or refreshing. Obviously the keyboard is going to disappear once its done. Go to a website on the phone, and start typing in a text box before it fully loads. Once it fully loads, it'll disappear. This is common knowledge and happens on every platform I've ever used...

Thanks for pointing up that this is intended. I thought it would be odd if an app in the Background could hide the Keyboard in a completely diffrent active app. But it seems as this behaviour is a Feature and not a bug.