Develop Bugs

SMS with WM6

Does anyone has experienced the disappearing of SMS window while writing a message ?
This happens all WM6 ROM's.

I find the device sometimes kicks back to today screen when I select new sms...but pressing messaging button takes you to new message.

yeah i've had the kickback to the today screen as well, just a minor annoyance.
one thing that's been happening since WM5 is when i hit the messaging button, the top and bottom bar show the "messaging" title and the appropriate buttons on the bottom but the main part of the screen does not change.
know what i'm talkin about?

yes I've noticed the issue with the main window not updating to match the title and button bars.

My little fix for it is to open the phone, let it go to landscape mode and then close it and to let it get back to portrait... it should appear after that.

This start happening to me last night... its annoying the **** out of me!!

Issue with SMS

When I try to respond to a received SMS, sometimes I don't get a cursor to be able to start typing. I have to close the messaging tab and reopen it and then usually the cursor appears. Does anyone else have this issue.

if your using sense, then yes i have the same problem. maybe. if your keyboard is already out when you open the message it wont have a curser. all you have to do is tap the white box where yo type and it SHOULD be fine

It's more serious than that for me.
Sometimes the area where you are supposed to type is shrunk down to about half it's normal height, the messaging app doesn't scroll down to the most recent message in the thread, and there is no cursor to start typing. I'm using the stock at&t rom minus the bloat. I love this phone except this one quirk. I mostly use my phone for texting and every other time I receive a text it seems like I have to close out and reopen it. Very annoying problem.
dkdontforget said:
if your using sense, then yes i have the same problem. maybe. if your keyboard is already out when you open the message it wont have a curser. all you have to do is tap the white box where yo type and it SHOULD be fine
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Not to throw my 2c in but I just realized something on my Tilt2 when a msg txt comes in for me to reply to I dont get a cursor in the box either, but you can start typing without tapping the box or waiting for the cursor.

Recently been playing around with the MAX MANILLA rom just installed a few days ago. Tried playing around with my registry learning to fix some problems.
Usually I txt through TOUCH FLO 3D and the problem is. If i was to send a txt message, it won't show up on the screen, I would have to refresh my screen to another section and come back to see my txt message.
Any tweaking suggestions?
Thanks.

Infuriating SMS bug.

My Tilt 2 and my girlfriend's Tilt 2 suffer from the same issue. About 25% of the time when we open a text message, our phones do not scroll down to the most recent message nor give us a cursor so we can start typing a reply.
You have to manually scroll down to the typing area and manually click in the blank space, and even then, when you start typing and get to the end of a line, instead of automatically dropping down to the next line, the phone inexplicably scrolls back up to an older message. You then have to scroll back down and click in the typing area where your message was cut off to resume typing, but each time you get to the end of a line, it scrolls back up again. Using the task manager to close the sms application fixes the problem, but it reoccurs about one out of every four text messages we receive. I have applied both of the hotfixes, the sms patch and the caller id patch.
It's so much of an annoyance, she, being a bigger texter than I, hates the phone. If anyone else has had this issue, do any of the extant cooked roms fix the issue? We are both using the stock At&T Rom minus the crud.

sounds like it could be a case of the different programs interfering with each other. install one by one and see if that makes a difference, you might come to realize something. If you want to just uninstall those programs you should use an advanced uninstaller like TMS or SK Tools to make sure you change the registry settings.
I'd really suggest grabbing a visual kitchen and making your own custom ROM. It is really simple and in my case has been the most stable and quickest ROM i've used to date.

thats just the Windows Mobile messaging... its horrible, they should make a new one lol, Like Handcent SMS for android, that is like THE best texting app. but about the issue, it sounds like you just need to purge your SMS, I do it once a week,but I also do a PIM backup before so, just incase

I do.
I purge it every day. I delete everything, and then I empty out the deleted messages if that's what you mean. It pisses me off. Her phone has virtually nothing on it. It's completely stock. I know there isn't anything interfering with it.

same problem here.

No solution here, but I can more further identify the problem....
Does this seem accurate?
When I select a text message from the message inbox, it displays the message just like a normal reply window with the keyboard at the bottom, but then takes a second or so and then the keyboard hides and the message is displayed full screen and the reply area with the cursor loses focus. Then I have to click in the reply box at the bottom at which point the keyboard has to pop up again and resize the message. The action is as if I have touched the message itself which would of course expand the message and minimize the keyboard.
I was originally thinking it is a left-over phantom touch from the previous screen but that has been ruled out. Maybe this is a timing issue in the registry? It doesn't seem like it. It happens with every new message that you want to reply to. I'm at a total loss, but very annoyed by this. The email section works fine. I see a list of messages, I select one, if I choose to reply, the message pops up and the cursor appears inline right where I should type and the keyboard pops up at the same time. Once I have replied to a message, even if I reboot the phone, if I go back to a message I have replied to the keyboard is already up with the cursor focused in the reply box. I don't know why it doesn't do this when a new message comes in. Maybe it thinks you need more space to read the message, but this is silly considering text messages are usually very short….ie Short Messaging Service…
I saw someone else post that this is just sucky windows messaging. Well, it didn't do this on my Treo 750 with WM6.1. But there I had a regular keyboard, not a software keyboard on a touch screen.
So my guess is that something in the messaging system may be looking for the hardware keyboard and assuming we have it open and displaying the messages full screen.
So what I think we really need to ask is if there is a way to force the keyboard to just be open and put the cursor focus in the reply box when I open a new text message by default?
Alternatively, is there a messaging replacement that eliminates this problem?

Problem when texting (jumps to top of conversation time after time)

Hello people,
I have a problem when texting with my desire and it's this annoying i think of selling it if no-one has a solution for this.
The problem is when typing a textmessage to someone. When i have like a bigger conversation (in the way that you have to scroll up to see the first textmessage of the conversation) and i'm busy typing the message, the phone would suddenly jump up to the very top of the conversation. The keyboard dissappears and i have to manually scroll down the whole conversation again to be back at the screen where i was writing the message in to continue typing.
It's very annoying and sometime's it happens like 3 times typing one textmessage.
If the conversation is rather big (take 200 textmessages) i'm more busy scrolling than typing. Quite silly for a highend phone.
I flashed, flashed, flashed, full wiped everything over again and the problem just doesn't disappear.
Someone noticed this too?

I also suffer from this annoying issue from time to time. It would be great if somebody could help us!

Roger_Dodger said:
Since Froyo/Android 2.2;
Sometimes when writing SMS, the typing window can disappear and the display zooms all the way up to the very first message to that contact.
You could scroll back down endlessly of course, but instead just turn the phone to change the screen orientation and you'll get straight back to the text entry window.
SOMEtimes even that doesn't work, in which case menu/add subject. That'll get you back to the text entry window for sure. (Obviously don't actually enter a subject or it'll change the message to an MMS)
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jamesc123 said:
Also you can just hold down the Menu button and it will open the keyboard and go back to the bottom of the messages
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These posts from the tips and tricks sticky in the general section may help you.

Disappearing keyboard still not fixed?

Hey guys,
I'm running a Lumia 800 with the 8107 OS so I thought the disappearing Keyboard issue should have been fixed. However sometimes, when I write a mail or message it happens that the Keyboard still vanishes. I was not able to reproduce the Problem in parts. Could you please try the following and tell me what happens:
1. Go to the Home Screen
2. Open either an app from the home Screen or from the programs list
3. As soon as the Programm Shows the loading Screen hit the search button
4. Tap on the search box and wait
5. The Keyboard should now dissapear after a few seconds
This works best with Applications that take some time to load, like Facebook or Board Express. Instead of opening the Search App you can go into every app that opens the keyboard. I also guess that Network related callbacks are responsible for the dissapearing keyboard. You can try the following as well:
1. Open the Facebook App
2. Wait for it to load and Display the recent items
3. Hit "..." and "Refresh"
4. Tap the Search Button and open the Keyboard
5. After a few seconds the Keyboard disappears.
It would be great if some of you guys could try to reproduce this problem.
Regards
Chris

ChrisKringel said:
Hey guys,
I'm running a Lumia 800 with the 8107 OS so I thought the disappearing Keyboard issue should have been fixed. However sometimes, when I write a mail or message it happens that the Keyboard still vanishes. I was not able to reproduce the Problem in parts. Could you please try the following and tell me what happens:
1. Go to the Home Screen
2. Open either an app from the home Screen or from the programs list
3. As soon as the Programm Shows the loading Screen hit the search button
4. Tap on the search box and wait
5. The Keyboard should now dissapear after a few seconds
This works best with Applications that take some time to load, like Facebook or Board Express. Instead of opening the Search App you can go into every app that opens the keyboard. I also guess that Network related callbacks are responsible for the dissapearing keyboard. You can try the following as well:
1. Open the Facebook App
2. Wait for it to load and Display the recent items
3. Hit "..." and "Refresh"
4. Tap the Search Button and open the Keyboard
5. After a few seconds the Keyboard disappears.
It would be great if some of you guys could try to reproduce this problem.
Regards
Chris
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The keyboard isn't disappearing in that case, the app is loading, and you're intentionally trying to type before it's fully loaded to get this behavior. The disappearing keyboard issue would occur MID SENTENCE while typing something as simple as a text after the message had already loaded. What you're doing is intentional and happens everywhere.

FiyaFleye said:
The keyboard isn't disappearing in that case, the app is loading, and you're intentionally trying to type before it's fully loaded to get this behavior. The disappearing keyboard issue would occur MID SENTENCE while typing something as simple as a text after the message had already loaded. What you're doing is intentional and happens everywhere.
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Well, this are only two Scenarios where the Keyboard dissapears. However sometimes while composing a longer message for instance, it goes away. And I don't think this behavior is intended. Imagine you're in an area with bad coverage and hit refresh. This refresh can take around 20 or 30 seconds so you decide to write a text. Halfway in the text, the Keyboard will disappear while you are writing. At least that occurs on my device.

ChrisKringel said:
Well, this are only two Scenarios where the Keyboard dissapears. However sometimes while composing a longer message for instance, it goes away. And I don't think this behavior is intended. Imagine you're in an area with bad coverage and hit refresh. This refresh can take around 20 or 30 seconds so you decide to write a text. Halfway in the text, the Keyboard will disappear while you are writing. At least that occurs on my device.
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I'm not sure what to tell you then. I know that the disappearing keyboard was solved for me. It's pretty much a given that on any device, because this used to happen to me on Android and WinMo, that refreshing incoming data will cause your typing indicator to disappear once the data has completely loaded. You can try this on Internet Explorer on your computer. It might be a hassle, but that occured before Mango's keyboard issue. As far as typing a long message, I've typed 10 page texts and haven't had the keyboard disappear once. When I had the disappearing keyboard, it would disappear every 3-4 words, sometimes quicker, and was quite annoying.

i think its not an internet related problem, it is caused by ram issues...if i play with angry birds with dehydration hack, then i switch to an incoming message and quickly reply, the keyboard disappears after 2 sec...lg o7, sorry for bad english..

Updated to 8107 last week and haven't seen the disappearing keyboard since. I call fail on this thread.

Haven't had any issues with disappearing keyboard since 8107, although it was frequent prior.

for some reason, it took two updates for my keyboard to stay. I did an update last week...and for whatever reason, i had another update last night, which appeared to be the same one I did earlier that week...don't know why.
but since, i've had no keyboard issues.

I second the one who said this thread is fail.
The method you gave is a way to force the page to refresh, so as soon as the page (or in this case the app or Bing search) loads with the keyboard, the background agents from the opened app causes the page you are in to refresh as well, thus the keyboard disappears.
The incident before, is when you are already typing a message for 10 seconds or so, then the keyboard will suddenly disappear for no apparent reason. In some occasions, it disappears again when you type on the message box as if the keyboard is doing a "double take" disappearing action = annoying.

That's exactly what I said. He's purposely trying to type while data/agents/pieces of the app are still loading or refreshing. Obviously the keyboard is going to disappear once its done. Go to a website on the phone, and start typing in a text box before it fully loads. Once it fully loads, it'll disappear. This is common knowledge and happens on every platform I've ever used...

Thanks for pointing up that this is intended. I thought it would be odd if an app in the Background could hide the Keyboard in a completely diffrent active app. But it seems as this behaviour is a Feature and not a bug.