Is there an application which can remind people of the possible time zone in which the called number is or tell what is the time?
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The calling number would not necessarily lock down the timezone the caller is currently in because.... given that these are mobile phones, and people are, well, mobile what you'd really need is an application that tells what timezone the tower that originates the call is in. I don't think you're gonna have much luck with that.
You are right. May be if there is an option to manually enter the time zone for a given cell number, it may resolve the problem partially. But for a home phone (land line), it may not be an issue, I suppose.
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It's easy enough to find a map with an overlay of land line area codes. But even if one had once existed for cellular numbers if would no longer be relevant because of the Local Number Portability Act of ~2005, aka LNP. Because of that law we can now take our cellular numbers with us wherever we go (as in I move from Florida to Californian and take my number with me), cellular area codes can actually be mishmashed to such a degree that they can't begin to provide a clue as to where the owner of the number lives, let alone where he or she is at the moment. The carries have, track, and of course make call origination available to law enforcement. They also use it for their own metrics and reporting for analysis of trends and to compile new plan offers. But I haven't seen an application to do what you're wanting that is available to us the general public. There may be one, I just haven't heard of it.
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hey guyz..
the scene is set, dont want to tell anyone where it happened by whom and ofcourse who got robbed but here's the story.
User had an o2 Xda II, customized rom, with IIWPO Theft Control installed in the rom, so that means hard reset wont wipe IIWPO out of the pda.
Robber comes puts a knife on the user's throat takes away cash and the pda, user gives it happily thinking she will get a msg on the other number with all the info of sim changed.
4 days pass by no info come's and the pda is sold or forwarded to someone else or whatever. END OF STORY.
now how did the user not get a msg of the new sim info.
1. SIM WAS NOT CHANGED.
2.SIM CHANGED BUT NO CREDIT IN NEW SIM.
3.BATTERY TAKEN OUT PDA TOTALLY DEAD TILL NEW CUSTOMER GETS IT. ETC ETC.
WHAT CAN BE DONE.
ok guyz this is the part where i would like allll the geeks & gurus to put in some effort, i know it will be tough but i have a feeling its not impossible.
CAN UR,LL UPDATE IIWPO IN SUCH A WAY THAT WHEN WE ARE FEEDING OUR NAME AND OTHER INFO IT WILL ALSO ASK FOR A SECURITY PASS TO BE PUT IN, SO THAT WHEN ROBBER CHANGES SIM THE IIWPO RECOGNIZES THE SIM CHANGE AND LOCK'S THE PDA AND ASKS FOR THE PASS, AND WONT UNLOCK TILL PASS PROVIDED, REBOOT WONT HELP.
Now ofcourse the robber can be anyone, so the robber plans to hard reset and still the device would recognize the sim change and ask for pass now so annoyed he plans to flash the device and what happens after that all of us know.
To prevent this THE GEEKS & GURUS can just build a small security patch that can wont allow flashing of device till pass given, it would work like this, we flash our device for the first time install IIWPO and the NEW SECURITY PATCH (with passwords) device is robbed, robber changes the sim gets pass error he gets pissed and tries to flash the device and that clever software would not flash the device till pass provided, this would prove that all the efforts the robber made to steal the device are gone to waste.
And ofcourse someday someone might put in a sim with credit and we would get the info.
NOT FORGETTING CHARLES WARNER FOR THE GREAT WORK HE'S PUT IN FOR ALL xda-developers.com USERS and also giving the IIWPO to us for free, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK SIR !! THANKS ALOT.
no one interested in being secured ?
I think the IIWPO idea can definitely be improved, BUT: It will never protect you from being robbed.
The true advantage of IIWPO in its currect form is to be able to get track of the 'new' owner of a nicked device. In the end: someone will put in his/her sim and then its just bing!
All other enhancements will just make sure noone else gets to use the device. Sure an improvement, but less important to me: I just want my device back and get the thief nailed!
Interesting...
But I think you have misunderstood how IIWPO works.
IIWPO does not detect if someone changes the SIM card. It ONLY acts when the someone changes the Owner Information (Start/Settings/Owner Information), so no matter what SIM card there is, as long as it has credit it will send an SMS to the recipient's phone number. That's the beauty of it, that it silently sends the SMS with the 'new' users data so there is a slight chance of knowing who's the 'new' owner.
But! This is by no means fool proof. It's what they call 'protection by obscurity', so if a savvy robber knows how to reflash the device it will get away with it no matter what features we can integrate to IIWPO.
That's one of the cool new features of WM5.0, that we can at least know for sure that our data is SAFE by wiping the info remotely if necessary.
Just a thought.
Rayan
edsub said:
The true advantage of IIWPO in its currect form is to be able to get track of the 'new' owner of a nicked device.I just want my device back and get the thief nailed!
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so if a savvy robber knows how to reflash the device it will get away with it no matter what features we can integrate to IIWPO
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ofcourse this is why we all love IIWPO cause it sends use a msg, and ofcourse even if someone was to modify IIWPO iam sure that this feature would'nt wipe out.god forbid you get robbed u get a msg frm the cell but you for some reason cant track the person or some other c#@p...and the pda is gone....WHY caz it only sends sms it does not block the screen....if you were to have a feature which would jam or freeze the pda on change of the name then the pda would be useless to the robber nothing much he could do....unless he knows how to flash it...now comes a part where we can do something about not flashin the device with out a pass....this would totally make the pda useless to the robber and would also keep sendin us msgs and secondly the robber maybe maybe next time might think twice before robbing a pda and might go for something else
How about a device that would be installed internally to the xda and if it is stolen and a different sim/different user info is entered and the person makes a call it fires a large captive bolt which nails the phone to the head of the user, it then adjusts itself to full volume with all lights flashing and announcing "This is a stolen phone...call an ambulance...or hearse".,
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How about a device that would be installed internally to the xda and if it is stolen and a different sim/different user info is entered and the person makes a call it fires a large captive bolt which nails the phone to the head of the user, it then adjusts itself to full volume with all lights flashing and announcing "This is a stolen phone...call an ambulance...or hearse".,
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tht would be great..... are u goood enough to build something like tht ?
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But I think you have misunderstood how IIWPO works.
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I perfectly understands the IIWPO functionality. It was me who put together IIWPO for other devices than Wallaby.
Let me explain how my earlier post should be interpreted: Sure it is triggered by the change of owner info, but most thieves (or buyer from a stolen device) will put in another SIM (simply because they dont have the pin of the stolen sim or because the stolen sim is blocked by the network). Thus: As soon as the 'new' owner puts in a SIM AND he/she has changed the owner info (and every one does that!) the sms is sent.
Also: Eventually a thief might flash a device, but ost certain a thief (or buyer) starts it up to test whether its working or not.
Imho IIWPO can be improved, but practically chances of getting a device back will not significantly improve
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Rayan said:
But I think you have misunderstood how IIWPO works.
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I perfectly understands the IIWPO functionality. It was me who put together IIWPO for other devices than Wallaby.
Let me explain how my earlier post should be interpreted: Sure it is triggered by the change of owner info, but most thieves (or buyer from a stolen device) will put in another SIM (simply because they dont have the pin of the stolen sim or because the stolen sim is blocked by the network). Thus: As soon as the 'new' owner puts in a SIM AND he/she has changed the owner info (and every one does that!) the sms is sent.
Also: Eventually a thief might flash a device, but ost certain a thief (or buyer) starts it up to test whether its working or not.
Imho IIWPO can be improved, but practically chances of getting a device back will not significantly improve
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Sorry edsub, I should have specified to whom I was refering to (zairyaab) when I wrote that comment.
Best regards,
Rayan
np m8
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It was me who put together IIWPO for other devices than Wallaby.
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Can you explain what should I change in the cab to make it work on other devices (Like ETen M500/Torq P100)?
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Yeah, but still I would feel somewhat better if I can at least call the thief/buyer and shout some expletives if he/she refuses to cooperate!!! :twisted: :lol:
Best regards,
Rayan
i have my girlfriend's number as my report number.. what if were together and we got robbed both our phones are taken away.. a multiple report number would be a good addition to IIWPO
The changes I'd like to see done to IIWPO include:
a) not using "IIWPO" or 'xda-developer' in the registry (user customisable registry key)
b) user customisable executable file name (IIWPO_startup is like a dead giveaway)
c) not storing owner name & number 'in the clear' (a simple XOR to hide it would be just as effective)
d) a hash of the entire owner info page (not just the last name) so unit will resend an SMS if any info changes
e) a new sms is resent after a preset time (eg: every 24/48/120 hours for example), regardless if owner info has changed or not.
I also like the idea of multiple number reporting.
a,b,c) Considering the concept of IIWPO is 'security by obscurity'; it will help if one could hide it more effectively. (no one is going to bother too much about bluetooth.exe or msn_update.exe in the startup folder for example...)
d) Most people get their name right; then meddle with the other bits of information as time goes on - it'd be good to get 'updated' info as and when it happens.
e) Consider it a 'keep alive' thing, so we'll know the unit is still in use, and can continue to keep in touch with the new owner =) I've no moral issues burning up the credit of someone who refuses to give me back my property either. =P
If nothing else, we'd be able to know when the unit gets reflashed, and can quiety say goodbye to our unit after not hearing from it for a while... =(
Is IIWPO still being maintained by the author, or anyone on xda-developers? If not, is the source available? I might be interested in following up on it (time permitting...)
Edited to add: A really vicious version of the IIWPO would possibly send out:
a) phone numbers stored in the SIM card
b) phone numbers stored in the addres book
c) recently dialed/received phone numbers
d) recently sent/received SMS phone numbers
Not all in one go; but in bits and pieces (eg: every 20 startups; send phone numbers of last 5 SMSs sent/received + last 5 phone calls dialed/received).
That would allow us get in touch with his friends and would possibly aid in getting the unit returned (use your imagination... probably easier to get them tell you who/where he is, rather than to get them convince him to return it...)
Probably this would add too much bloat to IIWPO; but hey, could be useful... =P
WOW, ok.
First of all - I registered 2 this forum less than a week ago,
and great job for doing these kind of things.
second - where can i d/l the prog?
and last another idea: when some1 steals ur pda he's usually gonna sell it over. meaning he made his money.
HOWEVER - if even after a HR after changing sims (maybe even without) there will be a picture message saying:
"You cannot use this phone"
"This phone can only be used by me - *name*"
"However, Im willing to buy this phone back from you. call +......"
there wont be a place on the screen to enter the code.
however - the phones' user knows he can type his password and unlock the phone. you might even integrate a handwriting recognition programm for signature or somthing but that will be super hard, i know.
another option is that when seeing this message user has to touch 4 corners of the screen with the stylus in a specific order, then he'll have a please enter password screen.
any comment?
is it do-able?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=IIWPO
I can't figure out this problem for the life of me. When some of my contacts CALL ME (they have the same 954 area code), my 8525 displays a "+ 1" before the area code and number for some of them. I can't figure out what is causing this, as all my contacts are setup with the area code also.
I noticed when browsing in the SIM Manager, that my own phone number is listed in my phone with just a 1 in front of the number.. would this be causing the problem? Has anyone else experienced this?
edit: Im running vp3g's WM6, with 1.48 radio, and olipro
I asked this same question awhile back... apparently it's just how it is and you're not charged long distance or anything as long as it's local.
You didnt get much of a response or what? I know that my buddy has the same phone as all of us, and he doesnt seem to have this problem. I figure its something related to my sim card and the fact I just switched over from a RAZR. He bought his straight from an AT&T store. I wish I could figure it out..
I suppose its not much of a big deal, but it is a bit annoying..
Isn't this just the country code? Like we in Norway have "+47" usa got "+1".
Outlook can be set up to add this automatically when creating new contacts, maybe that is the reason some contacts have this and others not?
If you are roaming with your phone this number is essential.
I made absolutely sure all my contacts dont have a 1 in front (except for ones not in my area code). I'm not roaming at all either. Even contacts with the same area code sometimes pop up with the + 1 in front.. ****, I'm not in a different country, I dnt want to see that.. it makes me feel like im dialing long distance.
Don't know down there in USA, but here in Europe any mobile number is shown with the Country Code before, even if you are in the same country of the caller.
It depends from carrier configuration, but, for us is normal to see +39 in front of an italian number...even it you call me from 3 metres away from me !!! Anyway, I think it could depends from different method of showing the callerId used by operators.
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I can't figure out this problem for the life of me. When some of my contacts CALL ME (they have the same 954 area code), my 8525 displays a "+ 1" before the area code and number for some of them. I can't figure out what is causing this, as all my contacts are setup with the area code also.
I noticed when browsing in the SIM Manager, that my own phone number is listed in my phone with just a 1 in front of the number.. would this be causing the problem? Has anyone else experienced this?
edit: Im running vp3g's WM6, with 1.48 radio, and olipro
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Im having the same issue, pretty recent too. I started noticing the +1 in front of my incomming calls as well. I dont know what is going on either.
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Im having the same issue, pretty recent too. I started noticing the +1 in front of my incomming calls as well. I dont know what is going on either.
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Then I understand the answers above doesn't apply?
Or...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes
+1: Country calling code, North America Numbering Plan (NANP)
Seems like this system that is very common at least in Europe is a pretty new thing in North America?
Well.. it is on the telco setting. normally they will add +code so that it is easier for the roaming user and also when partnering with other telco.
You don't have to worry since you'll not be charge for long distance call..
Normally telco will send you prefix +6 (in my case), but mobile phone (like nokia and any other brand) is intelligent enough to omit this and still display the correct name even if we store the number without the + prefix.
That's why you didn't notice this when using razr...
relaxxx...
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Well.. it is on the telco setting. normally they will add +code so that it is easier for the roaming user and also when partnering with other telco.
You don't have to worry since you'll not be charge for long distance call..
Normally telco will send you prefix +6 (in my case), but mobile phone (like nokia and any other brand) is intelligent enough to omit this and still display the correct name even if we store the number without the + prefix.
That's why you didn't notice this when using razr...
relaxxx...
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The plus makes is so you can dial internationally without using the specific international access code. Having +1 or whatever the country code is for a specific number saves time and aggravation of having to find out the access code in each country. This is very helpful if you travel a lot. I spent much of the past 10 years traveling around the globe and it really made my life easier. I don't store numbers without the + and the full number including country codes.
Doesn't matter.
It won't matter for you when you call back to such a number. As in, you won't get any extra charges or anything.
Travelling a lot, I always save all my numbers with the plus sign and the country code. That way you can be sure you will always get through, whereever you are calling from...
Yeah, I'm not too concerned about it costing anything (I know it wont).. it just seems a little weird how when some people call, they have the +1, but others do not. They are all calling from the same area code too..
Sorry all, I think I posted this in the wrong forum but I can't see how to move or delete it! I will repost in the correct forum
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Hi all,
I am working on an application that calculates your position using the location of the cell towers. The trouble is that with Windows Mobile I can only seem to find the current cell ID that the phone is connected to. There doesn't appear to be a way to get the neighbouring cell ID's and details. I have looked around and found some hacks but they are not guaranteed to work on every phone. I really need something that will work on all WM phones (I am actually targetting WM 6.X)
I know there is code out there that calculates your position using the single cell ID but that only returns your position based on the actual cell and I currently have this working with OpenCellID. What I want to do is get the location of at least 3 cells and then triangulate combined with a weighted centroid calculation to give a more accurate position.
This can be done on other phones and I have managed to get the CELL ID's on a Nokia S60 phone and I know of a similar application on the Blackberry that does the same but I want to target WM as I have moved away from S60. It just seems that WM phones don't support this feature although I believe that the phone core does through AT commands but without security access, there is no way to get this information from the phone.
Any help appreciated.
Dave...
What if someone develop an app that can unmask private numbers? Will it work or the signal come directly masked so the phones can not unlock it. I dont know how it works but it will be cool if someone develop such an app?
I don't think it can be done, it's hidden on a network level rather than phone level.
Wondering if my phone got hacked. I am running infamous rom on tmobile. Tonight my friend received my text messages from another number, and when my friend questioned who he was, he either didnt seem surprised or he was just playing along. If my phone did get hacked, do you guys have any advice like a system format, a setting I can change, or should I call tmobile directly?
Thank in advance
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Wondering if my phone got hacked. I am running infamous rom on tmobile. Tonight my friend received my text messages from another number, and when my friend questioned who he was, he either didnt seem surprised or he was just playing along. If my phone did get hacked, do you guys have any advice like a system format, a setting I can change, or should I call tmobile directly?
Thank in advance
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I'd call T-Mo directly and advise them of the situation. You might ask your buddy if he would participate and allow his carrier to use information to find what phone did the spoofing, and they can track the user via the IMEI number that is recorded when transmission is initiated. You MIGHT be required to have a police report to get the tracking done, so you ought to consider making the report to your local PD.
Be SURE your buddy isn't jerking your chain before you do anything, and I'd probably want to SEE the TM before any action on your part.
Aloha and Good Luck!
Bobolinko's advice is correct and the best course of action.
But to answer your specific question about the phoen being hacked...No, wiping it won't help. Neither will installing a different ROM or anything else.
If what your buddy is saying is actually happening, it's most likely not that someone have hacked into your phone and is remotely sending messages from your phone. It's far more likely that someone intercepted your cell signal, hacked the IMEI number (as stated above) and applied your IMEI number to another device, thus cloning your phone.
That message to your buddy came from another device entirely and never went through your phone at all. The problem is that this is very hard to fix. You can't have T Mobile jus tblock your IMEI number because then your phone won't work either. T Mobile can't distinguish between your phone and the cloned fake phone because both are broadcasting the same IMEI number, which is the identifier T Mobile uses to use your phone.
Have you left the United States recently and used your phone in another county? This whole scenario is vey common in Russia and other Eastern European countries. People got there on a vaction, use their phone, and immediately the phone's IMEI is captured and stolen. If you had mobile data turned on or used wifi, the user data on the phone is also likely compromised. Meaning all passwords, etc.
If you haven't left the US, it's much less likely, but still possible this is what happened.
Someone could have also physically looked at your phone, wrote down the IMEI number under the battery, and cloned it that way just to screw with you. No intercepted radio signals or anything. Just good old fashioned "copying the key". In that scenario it's almost certainly someone you know (unless you are in the habit of leaving your phone completely unattended around strangers).