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Hi everyone... I am new to the PPC world... being just recently swatch from my Treo600 to a new XDA2s, I am having a little difficulty getting used to the Microsoft way of doing things in PPC2003... I am just wondering is there anyone who can help me or point me to the right direction where I can get some external program that can help me from going insane... here's my problem... I usually keep a huge contact list with all my customer, supplier, co-worker, family and friends contact all in my PDA... so the usual way for me to make a phone call is to search it from the contact list... but here's my problem, I travel alot with my job and depending on my current location, I have to edit the number in my contact before I dial the number... in my old palm, I can simply edit the number before I dial that number (there's a funtion on my palm that allows you to edit before call... so it allows me to edit the number without physically changing the number in my contact list)... I am just wondering can PPC do that? Or is there any program in PPC that will allow me to do that? As far as I can see... in PPC, as soon as I have search for a contact and then I click on his or her number with my stylist... it will automatically dial... I can not edit it before I dial... the only way I can edit it before I dial is to physically edit the contacts... which is very annoying as I sync my contacts with my exchange server, I don't wanna to have to have all my contact get mess up with different area code and dialling code from different country... anyone know how can I solve this problem? Thanks for your help in advance... I very much appriciate all of your advice in advance... Peter
I think the most straightforwards solution here is to store all of your numbers in the international dialling format; that way, wherever you are, your device will place the call correctly
For example - if I had a contact in Glasgow, UK, it would be stored as +44141xxxxxxx (+44 for UK, 141 for Glasgow and the remaining seven digits as the local number)
In my experience whenever I have been abroad, any calls to any of my stored numbers are placed correctly first time by either my SmartPhone or PPC.
If you're problem is regarding a slightly different issue then please expand on your problem by detailing what you mean by "modifying" your contact before you dial.
My problem is a little bit more complicated I think... I already has most number stored in the international dialing format... but my problem is that, depending on my location, I have to dial a certian set of numbers in front of the phone number to be dial in order for me to save on long distance and roaming... for example, while I am roaming in Mainland China if I want to dial home in Hong Kong with my mobile... normally, I will dial 0085226****88 but that will cost me like USD2 per minute... but if I dial with a prefix of 17909 (hence I will type in: 179090085226****88) then my per minute charge will now be something like USD0.10 per minute... which is a huge saving especially when I make roaming and long distance call all the time... the same thing in Hong Kong, if I dial 1666 before I dial long distance, I will get a much higher savings over regular long distance... my problem is that I can not possibly store all of these information for all the locations that I am going to be in, each places that I am going to be in, have a different sets of number... so is there any intellegent way to add additional numbers in front of the number stored in the contacts before it is being dialed in pocket pc? I know on my old palm... I can solve this problem in two ways... 1) I can set a certain dialing prefix before the system dial any number (normally I leave that blank, as I prefer edit before dial function)... I can use this prefix function but it will require me to change the prefix when I am at a different location but it is a workable solutions... is there something like that in PPC? 2) The second way to solve this was the edit before dialing function on the palm... I just click on the number, it allows me to edit the number temporary before it is automatically paste onto the phone software and before the phone dials it...
Anyway, I know this is very complicated and it is a very rare issues thats probably just affecting me or a very small number of users... but it will be great if there's some simple solutions to this... but I think this problem is mainly due to the lack of flexiblilty in the contact list rather then the function of the phone itself! :O) Anyway, thank you very much for your help and suggestions again... very much appriciate it :O) Peter
Try if this works
http://www.handango.com/Platform ... sp?productId=152403
Can you please post the link again? It doesn't work :O) Thanks for your help :O) What kind of program is it? :O)
here's the link
[url]http://www.handango.com/Plat...Type=2&catalog=0§ionId=0&productId=152403
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you got it all wrong
... if you ask me: your approach is wrong. Here are the basics. Windows XP, for instance and Outlook, that is the source of the contacts (and phone numbers and other details that are entered), stores phone numbers in this 'international' format:
country code (MS has a list of countries and codes of its own)
are code (another, separate field) and
number
If you respect the fields provided by Outlook then you get a number generated by Outlook that looks like this:
+381 (064) 6185250
THIS is the 'correct' international format recognised by Microsoft Phone Dialer (well not actually MS but Active Voice, but that is a completely different issue)
My point is that +448704364673 is NOT a correct international phormat, because MS cannot differentiate between the international country code and long distance (area code) and therefore the phone dialer cannot parse the numbers correctly.
NOW, how to get the system to know WHERE you are and should it use the area code when dialing or you are in the area your friend is, or you want to call a toll free number that is in 'another' area, or you are dialing a client abroad etc. Well, there is the 'Dialing Rules' settings! THERE you create a profile (home, office, abroad etc.) and provide the area code for the dialer to differentiate...
This is all well with the Windows XP/Outlook 2002+ I know well, BUT when it comes to PPC... sorry, I have the same problem...>
FACTS:
fact no. 1: Outlook separates phone numbers in groups of>
country code
long distance code (area code)
number
fact no. 2: phone numbers entered this way are stored in a format>
+381 (064) 6185250
fact no. 2: Microsoft Phone Dialer recognises this number and dials correctly
via a voice modem... (headset or speaker/mike required)
Question: what hapens when contacts entered this way into Outlook are sunchronized with the
Pocket PC (Windows Mobile 5.0)?
Answer : all contact's numbers are entered into the Contacts list in the 'correct' format.
(the same format with the bracket, as is noted in PC Outlook)
My findings: the problem arrises when you use your mobile capable Pocket PC
(i.e. the super cool Qtek 9000) and try to dial someone on to his mobile or office phone that are on another
area code...
the Pocket PC, or Windows Mobile 'Phone dialer' dials EXACTLY
as the number is entered in the above mentioned format
(the mobile operator recognises the + at the beggining of the number, but
does not understand the spaces and the brackets!!! and offcourse
the mobile operator returns an error voice message that a wrong number has been dialed!
What am I to do?
Can I find/download/install a proper phone dialer (i.e. MS Phone Dialer) that comes with Windows?
Phone Dialer 1.5
Developed for Microsoft by Active Voice
http://www.activevoice.com/dialer
bottom line is that CISCO systems aquired this Phone Dialer in 2001 and Active Voice discontinued developing/supporting whit app. (link on the Active Voice site is outdated and no support on MS site, as well)
(please do not post solutions as: "you should reformat your number entries etc. because I have 800+ contacts and counting...)
P.S. what I gathered is that this is not device related it is just OS and app related. I had the same problem with my previous Nokia phone... (I did not solve. Actually I thought I will solve with this device...)
I've set the Dialing Rules with my country code and area code (Mobile etc.) So, I don't have a clue what am I doung wrong
The problem is I have 2 different contacts with the same last 7 digit nos. only their 3-digit prefix is different. when one of them sms to me, the name that appear will the first listed in the contact list. i think this is because the messaging program does not translate the whole 10 digit of the no. this problem does not occur in Phone program.
I've tried LVSW 260307 & 050507 and also Black 2.5
anyone has a fix for this? pls help
TQ
I believe this is a function from MW. I do have the same problem, even there are only 5 digits same as the calling or SMS number. it will display the first on the list as the caller or SMS sender.
but the problem did not occur when the person calls me. only when sms.
any fix? tq
I have just purchase the above PDA (ROM:1.56.721.3 dated 29.08.07) with radio version 1.27.2.11. When I receive a local call from contact, the name of the caller does is not displayed. Only the phone number (7 digits). However, when I receive an SMS, the name of the same caller is displayed. If I remove the country code in the contact number and leave the local number only, then the name of the caller is displayed. In that case, the name is not displayed when I receive and SMS from that contact. Can you please help?
I've got the same problem. After upgrading I imported all my contacts from outlook and the phone doesn't display contact name on receiving a call.
I created a contact using the phone contacts app and that is recognised when it is called.
Something different between an imported contact and one created using WM6 contact app?
Anybody know what is going on here?
Wrong Forum
The Tytn II is also called "Kaiser", theres another forum for it.
Try to post your question here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=377
Thank you very for the info. Posted new thread on the specified forum.
Regards
Hi in my country Lebanon ,mobile numbers starts with 03 or 70 or 71 than the 6 digit contact number.. the problem is that my HTC desire doesn't show SMS sender name upon receiving sms sent from senders that starts with 03(local sms), instead showing the sender number.I am having this sender in my contact list. There is no issues while receiving international SMS or senders with phone numbers starting with 70 or 71.
But when the same person calls me, its displaying the caller name correctly.
What would be the reason?
I tried the adding the country code +961 to the contacts, but if i do that, the sms problem disappear BUT call receiving stopped showing caller name - only number is shown.
One thing i noticed is, while receiving SMS, the sender number is preceded by country code(+961) while receiving a call only caller number is there.
a temporary workaround is to add 2 numbers for each contact: when with the country code +961 and another one without it.. but it is frustrating if u have hundreds off contacts
My iphone had the same problem but it was fixed easily by downloading a program "Caller Id fix, i think this is due to the number of digits in the phone number it seems.the device needs minimum 8 digits and it doesn't consider the zero in 03 as a digit!
Any help?
I am in Lebanon too and I have the same problem.
Since we have the (03) area code, the matching fails on it because the phone number would be 1 digit less than the configured matching preset in Android.
This sucks big time. I've read on all forums, and there's no fix. I tried asking in htc-linux chat room, and no one answers We're doomed lol..
I'm on Android 2.2 by the way, and the problem is still there.
Apple fixed this on iPhone it by adding a database of countries and specifying the matching preset for each country. Android = no
Same problem here, there must be a way. Perhaps modifying some XML in Android root?
Same problem here. no solution yet.
Only workaround is to Backup ur google contacts (CSV), edit them in Excel so that you would have 2 numbers for each contact, then re-import into google.
Even with hundreds of contacts it should not take you more than 10 minutes.
Hopefully this would be fixed soon.
i am using handcent sms. it is a good temprorary solution. it shows contact names correctly..
But I would like to see a solution for the built in sms application from htc
ebaak said:
i am using handcent sms. it is a good temprorary solution. it shows contact names correctly..
But I would like to see a solution for the built in sms application from htc
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Hi Guys,
Anyone found a solution for this issue. I am on HTC Desire HD and still have the problem.In addition if you store the number as 9613xxxxxx then the name will not be shown when someone calls in.
Apparently it's a problem only with HTC since Samsung Android doesn't have this problem.
Thanks
Are you all on custom software? Have you recently flashed a new ROM??
I had the same issue once, where I hadn't restored Contacts from Titanium properly, so all SMS I received did not show sender ID.
Just a thought...
I have my new HTC Trophy set up to sync with Exchange/Outlook. I'm in Norway, so my contacts phone numbers are stored in Outlook in this format: +47 12345678
Now, when in Norway and getting incoming calls from 12345678, the phone does not recognize the caller.
Is this a known issue? Any workarounds other than removing +47 from all my contacts?
I'm having the same issue!
Anyone know how to setup WP7 to recognize not only the full number?
Nothing new here?
i noticed that in the windows live contacts section you can specify which country the contact is in,..would that help?
i don't know..i'm not having these problems to be honest!
In outlook you store the phone number with +47 but when you dial the number, you want to dial it without the +47
Is that correct?
I have had similar issues with other phones with extra "0" in between region/country/city codes, for example in Germany.
I have a couple of ideas:
1. There is the International Dialing assist function. I have no idea what it does other than what's described undertneat it... Does that do anything helpful?
2. What if you create a separate Windows Live account, and add in /copy your contacts, without the +47; then link the two contacts. The contacts will appear as just 1 contact in your phone, and you'll have the option to call with or without the +47
So here is the deal:
I have set all my contacts mobile numbers using the right local area code (for example 04111-8181-8181) so when I’m traveling to other city the call is routed correctly. But when someone call me I receive the number without the area code (example 8181-8181) and the phone did not match this with the contact.
So the problem is not when I'm dialing the number but when I receive an incoming call from my contacts.
I don't know what this International Assist do too but is turned On.
And hboos, I didn't find where I do set up this Country in Live Contacts but I don't think that this is the problem since all of my most important contacts are coming from Outlook.
Thanks
I store all my contacts like this one: +49123456 without any spaces. My HD7 recognizes them all. Perhaps you have to remove the space?
Well, if removing the spaces/formatting doesn't work, you can always go with my other suggestion. Create a separate address book in a Windows Live account with the incoming CID number, and link the two contacts on WP7 (open contact 1, click the chain link at the bottom, click contact 2). WP7 is even smart enough to suggest you likely links.
Talys, this suggestion lead me to another question: Is there one button to link all my contacts or I need to go one by one (because I have 1200+ contacts).
I'll try to remove the spaces.
Just an update, didn't work removing all the spaces
I've got the same problem. Living in Norway, syncing with Exchange/Outlook and storing all my phone numbers with a +47 prefix. I'm sure creating a windows live contact for each of my Exchange/Outlook contact and link them would work. But with 800+ contacts, the thought of maintaining two lists doesn't sound like a feasible solution for me.
I've tried the following.
Using a 0047 prefix instead of the +47. Same problem.
Removing any spaces that Outlook add automatically. Same problem
Using a windows live contacts instead of Outlook/Exchange contacts. Same problem.
The best solution I've come up with so far, is to store all my Outlook/Exchange contacts with two numbers. One without the prefix and one with. This isn't really working either I like to store mobile number where they belong.
However, everything seams to work as expected with SMS/MMS messages. The +47 prefix doesn’t cause any problems what so ever.
Now with some developers already getting access to WP7 registry I think it's a matter of time to find the entry to edit
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Talys, this suggestion lead me to another question: Is there one button to link all my contacts or I need to go one by one (because I have 1200+ contacts).
I'll try to remove the spaces.
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I don't think there's a button to automatically link your contacts.... that's a lot of contacts to link! But you only need to link the ones that are important for Call Display, right? So the list would be smaller?
i always have the same problem on wm6 and had was to edit the registry caller ID match the default is 8 so if you change it to 6 or 7 then it will be ok..so its just to get access to the wp7 registy to change that setting
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i always have the same problem on wm6 and had was to edit the registry caller ID match the default is 8 so if you change it to 6 or 7 then it will be ok..so its just to get access to the wp7 registy to change that setting
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Sorry to bring that again but that's THE POINT!! We need to hack the registry to edit this.
Anyone have done this?
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Sorry to bring that again but that's THE POINT!! We need to hack the registry to edit this.
Anyone have done this?
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no....there is no access YET to the registry or file system
try this reg key
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone]
"CallIDMatch"=dword:7
Have you tried Settings -> Applications -> phone and International assist - On?
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i always have the same problem on wm6 and had was to edit the registry caller ID match the default is 8 so if you change it to 6 or 7 then it will be ok..so its just to get access to the wp7 registy to change that setting
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I don't think this is the problem, or if it is, the default value is higher than 8 as all phonenumbers in Norway has 8 digits. 11 if you also count the +47.
In any case, works fine for me using Telia in Sweden - I have numbers stored in a variety of ways including +46 (0123) 12345 as well as +4612312345 and they all seem to show who's calling. Could be it's operator dependant somehow?
I have the same problem, my contacts are synced from Google. Country Slovenia, format +386 31xxxxxx. Number does not link to name of the contact. Tried Caller ID fix from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907971, but problem remains. Can someone try and see if it works for him?