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Since we are getting ROMs out nearly every day and the Wiki page does not seem to keep up to date as frequently, can I propose that in fast time we have some sort of visual list that people can add new ROMs to and this list has categories which people can vote on after installing the ROM. It will then give people an indication of the quality of the ROMs.
Here is a suggestion out of 10:
Rom Name | Stability | Feature Completeness | Overall Quality
rytrytrytryr(1.0) 8 6 6
Overall Rating is: 20/30
Can anyone second this idea? This could be linked to the Wiki page or even a replacement, such as Mozilla does on their web site. I would expect users to be able to vote on each category - perhaps this could be pinned at the start of the forum?
Hawk
i know where you're coming from, but the nature of all these roms is that it's pretty subjective as far as 'feature completeness' etc.. some people love stripped down clean roms.. some think the more software the merrier.. so i think it would be pretty hard to get a proper view of the roms via a rating system. best bet is just to have a proper features list/changelog for the roms so we can see what's in and out..
Well the view I am suggesting is regardless of features included or not, it will let members know the quality of the ROM version. As it stands at the moment it is hard to determine which version is best from what developer. If there is a quality system indicator based on members votes it would help others decide what to install.
Just another point - the Wiki is editable by everyone. I have already updated ROMs on the available ROMs page - I encourage others to do likewise (if the cook doesn't do it - do it for them - they do enough for us as it is).
So what do U prefer ? A rom loaded with apps, or a striped one, ready for u to install what ever u want ?
I love a ROM with a little more than the basics. But just a little. then a nice extROM with other apps. This way 3 clean flashes - radio, ROM, extROM and the phone (bar say TOMTOM and a couple of games) is ready to go.
Currently the PDAVIET 3.00.07.08 ROM with AX3L's extROM is a winner for me. fast, stable and all the functionality that I need (although I personalise splash screens and also dialer (touch) and would love to see a smooth fast and stable portage of TouchFlo for my Trinity). If I found that - I think I'd stop flashing then!
I'm a little confused on which ROM to go for. Ideally I need it for the following purposes:
1. IT Management/Networking - For my employment
2. University Purposes
3. General purposes as I also work freelance.
I would also hopefully like it to be fully loaded with apps as I'm not going to install anything else and also fast and stable. I have a 1GB Card for storage if that helps.
If anyone can suggest something I would appreciate it.
try all roms if you hav time
im using t-mobile beta but duttys supa dupa rom is great
schps 3.60a great but just wait till 3.60b few isues now
TNT V2 is loaded. But so are some others. U need to read the COOKS rom threads / posts for information and see which one U want for yourself. Also, their are a number of rom POLL treads around.
hello friend! I already used lots of roms,, I like Shaps roms!
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I'm a little confused on which ROM to go for. Ideally I need it for the following purposes:
1. IT Management/Networking - For my employment
2. University Purposes
3. General purposes as I also work freelance.
I would also hopefully like it to be fully loaded with apps as I'm not going to install anything else and also fast and stable. I have a 1GB Card for storage if that helps.
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There will never be a "perfect" ROM; each chef has their own favourite base applications that they cook in to the ROM, but these don't always suit everyone.
You're not giving too much away, are you??? What device do you have, what country are you in, what provider do you use, etc.....
As for "purposes", they're pretty nondescript - IT Management/Networking is my job too, but there are countless add-on applications you might need over and above the standard issue WM6 apps (like RDP client - and there are several versions of that!!). University purposes; does that mean you need Word or OneNote for lectures, or what? Similarly, Freelance covers a multitude of sins......so you're a freelance what?? Hitman, photographer, journalist, the list goes on.......
Everyone you ask will recommend their own personal (current) favourite ROM, but their favourite may not suit you at all. As for my personal recommendation, it would go something like this....I use JJ's Black ROMs - currently Black Satin, but I have also heard good reports of Schaps 3.57x series of ROMs (the 3.60 series is still being developed and there are one or two oddities still being ironed out).
Honestly, your best bet would be to start with a "Lite" ROM (one without all the extra crap built in) and then add the things you want; networking utils, productivity tools, etc....oh, and the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT thing to do before you start on your ROM flashing expedition is to READ - the guide(s) written by MrVanx (http://www.mrvanx.org) and the XDA Wiki for the Hermes (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes) are essential reading material.
Everyone who has replied to your post has given good advice - it's up to you the route you take, but there are plenty of willing people ready to help if you get stuck along the way.
Enjoy!!!
Mark.
for the time being tnt v2 is the most fastest and stable one...
I had this dilemma, I eventually went for Schaps or whatever it's called as it seems the most popular all rounder. I'm loving it and I think I'll keep it on. I get extremely nervous flashing ROMs so once a year sounds good to me, can't afford to be indesicive and brick it.
would suggest any ROM with LITE versions then you can just look around for applications that you need and install them..
hi, there are so many roms out there, quite a few have lots of added apps, some useful some not, but if you using your phone just for specific things, get a 'LITE' rom and add what you need, search for the new supa duper lite rom, its got loads of space, very nippy... then just fill up what you need.
Actually Scrub that, Supa Dupa Lite Rom is the Dogs, But in all Fairness, You want a 'all rounder', a rom with a good selection of apps, very very nice and very stable, my friend, i think that ANY schaps roms will fit the bill
i dont know why but 3g and hsdpa data works with tmobil based roms, htc one wont work just gprs and edge. is there any tmobil patches to make it work?
And to throw another option out...there are several very neat kitchens out there, if you look around. Using one (or more) of them will enable you to whip up exactly what you need/want.
Of course, learning that process is somewhat involved.
-pvs
Hi there!
Kudos to all of the ROM developers out there. I'm getting a hard time to get along with all those new ROMs: which one suits my needs? which one based on what original ROM version? Known issues, startup memory sizes, additional apps, reg tweaks, SPL needed/tested, etc.
So I have an idea of a pinned thread where registered ROM developers can detail some predefined params of their releases for an easy way of comparability for all of us, especially for beginners. Also official ROMs could be included for "milestones". And some trusted reviews should be included in links for each ROMs. And of course discussion should be placed in a separate thread.
Is this possible?
i know what you mean, im following the forum every day on the possibility i will get a diamond, and im even struggling to keep up to date with what is available.
I agree the selection is great, and im sure the different versions of roms available will really make the diamond an even greater smartphone.
What i would advise is a thread with a simple vote on what rom they use on their diamond. This would give a rough estimate of what rom a noobie should try which will give them the most advantages
there's already a vote thread in existence, and most (i think all) of the ROMs posted list which version they are based on, as well as any apps removed/added.. shouldn't be that hard to nail down
Right now there's not alot of difference between the roms. The basic differences to look for:
1) Have any tweaks been applied already? You can apply these yourself or edit them by reading the tweaks post in the diamond general forum. If you'd like a clean untweaked ROM - with useless stuff removed, then the diamond surface rom is probably for you.
2) What applications have been removed, and do you need them? So far the roms posted only removed useless programs, that wont work (windows update) or are superceeded (MSN by windows live). BUT keep an eye out here, you may see roms WITH and WITHOUT touchflo for example. TLR v2 rom may be for you, you can uninstall touchflo if you want to use another UI like SPB Mobile Shell.
3) Upgradability and current version. What rom is it based on? All roms list this. Also can you upgrade any aspects of the rom without having to hard reset and loose anything. EG TLR roms use app2date to update applications that may have been updated in a new rom. (This is probably why the TLR rom is the most popular)
4) Reputation. Cooked roms rely on the 'cooker' making some decisions on your behalf. What tweaks to use and what not to. What values to set for the tweaks (eg fatfs). If you've had a device before and liked how a certain person works then right now there's so little difference in the cooked roms, you should stick with their work! Eg Elite rom, alot of people are using this rom.
Hope that helps. Me? I'm using TLR v2 with SPB Mobile shell.
Your asking chefs to try all kinds of different apps for compatibility... this is a lot to ask. What you need to do is read the threads, listen to what other users have to say, this will be your best feedback for bugs, compatibility, stability, etc...
Most importantly, just READ instead of polluting with useless threads in the development section
Hi,
Last few days I've been trying a bunch of unofficial ROMs.
Here are my experience and ideas about this whole situation.
* There should be a "TIDY" ROM thread, or a wiki page, (including comparison if possible). I'm willing to start the initial work, if needed.
* More sticky threads needed, so that each team/individual can post in those threads, and that only.
What I liked best was the Diamond Project and then Dutty's "hybrid" ROM. But neither was error-free. Then I've been through totally messed-up ROMs, hardly reverted back, to the stock ROM and tweaked myself.
IMO, Those ROMs should be more "generic", so that more people can use em, and they should be avoiding "geeky, cute" graphics (salut, Diamond Project's beating-hearts ). ROMs should also be looking more "professional" (see 1.93.456.2's boot screen).
Anyway, keeping on MY ideal ROM idea, it would be great if it had these:
* OTA updates (AppToDate) looks very promising
* No personal applications (tomtom, skype, other BS games) should be included.
* Opera 9.5 b1 is out, AND AWESOME should be included.
* No TouchFlo3d Themes, PLEASE
* Should be tweaked well. (And applying whole set in the tweaks thread is not "tweaking well")
* All unnecessary stuff should be removed (incl. bunch of wavs, images)
* And yea, should be based on the latest official ROM :b
Anyway, this is my two-cents
Nice thread, thanks maybe it can help cookers to bring up what really the needs are.
So I'd like a modulable ROM, as the GM360D Lite edition. I'd like the latest core and as an Elive distro ("beta" docet ) all the last-minute nightly builds of each component.
I would be useful for developers as well as for those want check the last miiles of any package.
Anyway I guess Opera is a must have, as well as a registry editor, a PDF viewer and player (VLC or CorePlayer).
I use also SyncMate for Mac (I have a MBP) and it could be insert as default (driver is less than 40kb).
I'd like also a touchable Calendar (XDA docet ) and a VNC Client.
I can't forget the wonderful display of my Diamond then I want a stunning GUI.
Makes sense, there is a wiki page already and anyone can edit it I guess ..
Personally I would prefer Skype and Tomtom to Opera, it is not really usable on such compact device regardless of what version it is ..
Good idea....imo, it should be a thread with all the "slang" for ROM flashing....for some newcomers (like me) words like SPL or RUU sound scary...
You are the first, (wanted to write the similar
Absolutely agree!
By me, I prefer "lite" line. More choice for user's fantasy
Impossible to make "universal" image.
Duttys_Diamond_HybridV1 my choice at last moment. The fastest & stable enough. Very smart programs list. But... not ideal, of course.
May the best way - this scheme, aka "modular":
"kernel" - the minimalist image;
"modules" - list of optimized programs for this image.
"tweaks" - .regs for image or program.
So....
i like CLEAN ROMS without any Additional programms (like youtube, googlemaps...) and NO TF3D , and provide all them in CAB files so u can instal any 1 u like manually or per UC!
The thing is, every single person wants something different from the roms, thats why theres so many different cooks who make different roms and even different versions of those roms but you can never satisfy everyone.
I do a lot of work on Vista Sidebar gadgets, i start off making a gadget for myself, then i decide to release it purely so the wider community can enjoy it too. Then I get a few people who want an odd feature or two so I put it in because it'll make them happy. Then by the time everything is said and done people are moaning at you because you put in too many things and it's bloated and doesn't do EXACTLY what every user wants. I imagine this is a similar scenario to what the cooks here go through.
I don't really have a point, but I guess I'm trying to say is be grateful of the Devs, it's not easy trying to please everyone and what you want isn't necessarily what others will want.
I do agree with the idea of basic and lite roms though, they allow the devs to make optimised roms and the user to install whatever apps they want.
hertc said:
Makes sense, there is a wiki page already and anyone can edit it I guess ..
Personally I would prefer Skype and Tomtom to Opera, it is not really usable on such compact device regardless of what version it is ..
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Well, actually what I meant was that applications like Skype, Tomtom, or other installable applications should not be included
Btw, I wasn't expecting this much "good" replies.
I hope cooks -especially Diamond Project members- will hear those comments.
I completely agree. It's like building your own computer and catering it to however you see fits vs. buying a pre-built computers with a bunch of unneeded software taking up spaces (im not discrediting cookers with their own unique ROM! They did a fantastic job!). If someone could baked a fast, barebone ROM and give users the choices of installing their own programs, that'll be fantastic.
i think all of us agree to have a stable ROM with biggest Storage and RAM, and that can be reached only with CLEAN ROMs.
I have 1 question, is it Possible to have a ROM Package which ask u before Flashing starts, which Softwares do u want to include? an Interface with a list of programms to un/check? just a thought!
Basically, I use my TYTN to take the odd picture, write stuff on WORD, play lots of games and browse using netfront, using a older ROM, will it make difference? also, because there is well over 100 roms for either, it would be nice to know a good rom, fast, not buggy, doesnt need hard resets very often, do any of you recommend a good rom? also, although i made a rom well over a year ago, which is the best (and noob-y friendly) kitchen to cook maybe a little rom dish of my own?
Any help given is appreciated.
Regards
The reason I ask is, I have been away from PDA's for well over a year
Thanks for any help
Hi, welcome back. There are many WM6.1 rom threads on page 1 for u to check out (forget the old wm6.0). Here's a thread post's info on the same question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442159
6.1 vs 6.0
I like all the flash which is built into most of the newer (6.1) roms, but after trying most all of them have stayed with 6.0. The major reason is stability. I have not yet had a 6.1 rom go more than 4 days without needing a hard reset. For those who are into flashing frequently anyway, that's no big deal. But if you want a rom that works reliably, and that you can load up with software without worrying about having to reload everything after a hard reset, I'd stick with 6.0.
Best wishes all,
For the Hermes, I have to agree with Edhaas. 6.1 has never worked as solidly for me as 6.1. (My Athena is another matter.) If you can do without the threaded SMS, then stick with 6.0.
Two I recommend are:
Edhaas' SuperD-Lite (Most worry-free ROM of the 25 or so that I have flashed to the Hermes.)
Or Shamanix Ultimate V2 (Very solid with more polish than SuperD-Lite.)
And as far as Kitchens are concerned, I found the easiest to use was Matt's Pandora Kitchen. It has a lot of options to play around with, so don't expect to get things perfect the first time, but once it is set up it is dead easy to make a ROM.