I am using WM6.1 ROM which is last updated by HTC.
By default I can add maximum 7 program shortcuts to the Windows Start menu.
Hence Blackstone screen is 800 pixels long there is extra space for 2 more shortcuts but windows mobile does not allow me to add more than 7. I use Resco Explorer to manually add shortcuts I want to the start menu.
Is there a registry tweak or something which will enable me to change this maximum number of allowable shortcuts in the start menu?
Thanks.
Hmm ... guess there is not an easy solution as nobody has replied.
I would really appreciate if any of more experienced guys out there would help me about this.
Thanks a million......
Nobody answered because I think no one understand what you mean.
Which start menu you are talking about?
If you have WM6.5 there is no limitation in number of icons
And if you are using WM6.1 use Rhodium base cooked ROM which you can have Manila's program tab instead of start menu
Sorry if my post is not clear in the beginning. I have edited my initial post and I hope now it is more clear.
I am trying to find a solution without changing ROM.
Thanks a lot
i fear you will have to use a 3rd party software . you might want to take a peek at wisbar lite
I have previously tried Wisbar Advance but I don't like it.
As it is only 2 extra icons I need to include I was wondering maybe it is possible with a registry tweak .
Thanks for the advice
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I want to remap my right softkey to "Programs". Its a long story but basically Im using the latest manila and installed some progs and now need to set the right softkey back to programs.
HD tweak wont do it, it only shows up ICS_Camera.
What I want to know is from anybody who has the right softkey showing as programs and is willing to tel me what the reg settings are under -
HKLM\Sofware\HTC\Manila - HomeRSKPath.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
Shetlander said:
I want to remap my right softkey to "Programs". Its a long story but basically Im using the latest manila and installed some progs and now need to set the right softkey back to programs.
HD tweak wont do it, it only shows up ICS_Camera.
What I want to know is from anybody who has the right softkey showing as programs and is willing to tel me what the reg settings are under -
HKLM\Sofware\HTC\Manila - HomeRSKPath.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
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Try this thread. Provides registry settings you are looking for!!
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Try this thread. Provides registry settings you are looking for!!
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Only shows entries for allocating calendar and agenda. I need the specific wording so it takes me to the equivalent of the old manila programs tab which is now the new start menu with the Rhodium packages as my new start menu has disappeared (Long story).
I am running wizbar v3 which changes my Start Menu which I like, but I'd like to be able to keep a way to access the default Start Menu that includes app shortcuts (without restoring the Programs tab on the touchFlo interface). What I want to do is create a soft key on the homescreen labeled "Programs" that points to the TF3D start menu so I can have it available while running wisbar. Anyone know how this can be done?
I think I understand what you are trying to do but Wisbar is a today screen plugin that replaces TouchFLO 3D. Without TouchFLO 3D running, you will not be able to access it's program menu interface. I think Wisbar has an icon based start menu, could you use that instead?
thanks for the reply. I'm not sure about that though, my touchFlo is definitely running while I run wisbar..I can go through the tans and all the touchFlo features are fully functioning as wisbar is running. Wisbar's start menu is like a list view instead of the larger icons that touchFlo displays for its design of the Start menu.
Ok, sorry for the misunderstanding. There are several different versions of Wisbar. I thought you were talking about Wisbar Advance Desktop which will replace the TouchFLO 3D. Wisbar Advance is just a start menu replacement and I think that is the one you are using. I don't know if there is a setting to allow you to see the original icon based start menu in Wisbar. You may have to edit the registry to change the soft key or modify one of the xml files for TouchFLO 3D. I have used a different program called Quick Menu that replaces the start menu with one like in Wisbar. It has an option that you can set that will open the original start menu with a long press on the start button. You may want to try Quick Menu, it is a free application and does what you want.
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What I want to do is create a soft key on the homescreen labeled "Programs" that points to the TF3D start menu so I can have it available while running wisbar. Anyone know how this can be done?
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Not real sure what wisbar does, but this cab will put the manila start menu as just another tab on your slider and gives the original start menu back. If wisbar is just another start menu replacement, then that would still work. credit cookiemonster
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539107
Right I'm using the Wisbar Advance 3 so my Desktop is the default design. I've used QuickMenu before it's pretty neat, didn't know it had that function with it. In general though I think it would be great to have a way to change each of the softkeys for this new TouchFlo since they change depending on which tab is selected. Hopefully someone is working on this...
I recently moved from Dutty WM 6.1 to EnergySun WM 6.5 application and I have, as usual, disabled HTC Manila.
Is WM6.1, when I click start button (top left) the top bar would show the last 4 lauched applications. A very nice applet, I guess, whose name I am unaware of.
The 4 last used applications were displayed on top of the main window, at the left of the icons showing clock, network signal, wifi signal level, etc.
Now, in WM6.5, when I click start, yes, I can have the whole desktop appear, but this nice applet is gone...in other words, I cannot see anymore the 4 last used applications on the top bar.
Can someone point me to where I can download this small program to display (on top bar) the 4 last used applications?
Thanks
Saulo
or shall I assume that this is not a tiny program but just a setting?
If so probably I can make the top bar re-appear (showing the last used applications) simply by tweaking with WVGA Tweak?
If yes, can someone please explain how to do?
Thanks a lot
Saulo
I have tried to use WVGA Tweak and Advanced Config, but I see no settings to change there to enable this feature (to show the 4 last opened programs)
Can somebody share his suggestions?
Thanks
Saulo
Personally, I use wisbar advance 3...gives me options to use cascading menus along with most recent applications...pretty good so far and gives the phone a nice pc feel...
Thank you Telegraph!
Can you kindly point the link for the latest version? I wish to give it a try
Again thanks
Saulo
I have found the link:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/
I wish to try it, but anyway are there other similar applications available, fee-based or freeware?
Thanks
Saulo
sent you a PM
Hello everybody, have finished my modification of kenia1234 sense startmenu replacement, using CHTeditor I have seen we can change programpages from 4 to 5 columns, wanted to do the same on kenia startmenu replacement...here is the result...
This is my first try in modding manila files, and I am quite happy to have understand the thing in half a day, hash file name is really a pain to work with...
But now I have what I wanted, a really usable start menu ( not too much long to scroll like list or 4 columns), included in the cab, shortcut to control panels item so you can disable the Windows mobile start menu to same a great 10mb of RAM, this hack to disabling completely the startmenu is from arto, I have attached the startmenu disabler for wm 6.5 and for wm 6.5.x, Install this to gain system memory...
Thanks to members Etoy & Abrasive We now have VGA versions as well !!!
VGA 4 rows
VGA 5 rows
Here is the link for original WVGA Kenia1234 version :
Original Kenia1234 Thread
Really nice!! I m glad to see that my work was useful for you...
thanks for the quote!
Anyway Good job!!
What would be great is the folder ability like the real startmenu, but thats definitely a hard work of coding...
My real goal to achieve, is to replace the recent program list from the bottom, and to replace it with shortcut for "recent program", "All programs","Control Panel".
This way we can have acces to parameters without loosing the ability of recentprogramlist. but I really don't know enought by now on lua script etc to program the whole thing, we have the layout, we need a good dev to make the whole thing, but I think it's a bit difficult to do as it need the script to understand how to lauch cpl files...
my real dream is a lightweight startmenu replacement like "Panoramic Launcher"...
This looks great - I never knew (or noticed) that the Start Menu was so heavyweight on memory. I might give this a go over the weekend. Nice work!
ocman, this is a very nice tweak to get more ram. I tried Panoramic Launcher, but believe it or not, found it to be a bit buggy. Sometimes it launched and sometimes the start menu launched. I want something which I can get used to. I am trying your program and like it very much. The only thing I would change is to give the settings menu items the same icon as before. I think I can research this one as I know you can add icons to shortcuts.
It does seem to save some ram too.
Well done and thanks!!!
How to put back the start menu?
Hi,
is it possible to creat folder in this start menu (i think yeah but need be sure )
Bye bye (et merci!!)
Hmmm, pitty did not work for me.....did not get te square with start icons. Instead icons where similar oriented as current start menu and logo's where gone.
great job.i ve been looking for a start menu disabler and a replacement for a year.
GREAT JOB,piece of ART !
Not work too at wm 6.5.x.
I installed the cab to replace and the cab to remove start menu, but when i soft reset my device the windows flag has disappeared and i get no more startmenu. Neither new or old
yeah in 6.5.x lost but I gained like 30mb wow
I see were this would really help with CHT or any other version thinking about installing it to see how it works on overlay sitting idle right now with NRGz 8-6 I have 96mb free! That is a good hack either way maybe needs to be cooked into roms and have a shortcut to the windows/startmenu for access to startmenu. Either way nice job.
****you lose your settings menu access as well because I was going to map my windows button to the windows/startup/program files*****
hahaha nice appbutyou forgot something theme settings !
dude wonderful app , but you forgot a shortcut to change the theme and the theme wallpaper ! in WM6.5 and 6.5.3 it has a special path ,not like 6.1 ,you might need to tweak it a little bit ! ! ! !
but its a great RAM saver and super practical ! great job
@ocman,
thanks for sharing..!
Works perfect for me...!
Greetings
sv0911
this works with all devices? and which files should I download and install?
Wow this really makes such a big difference, even on my HD2. This seems to have saved me about 20mb on my memory and has sped up my entire phone quite a lot.
The only problem is I'm using arkswitch and that covers up the start menu button and the start menu hardware button doesn't seem to work so at the moment I've got no way of getting to the start menu. Is it possible to make the hardware button work again?
Overall though it's a big improvement and it has definately made a speed difference and personally I think that this looks better than the default start menu anyway.
I hated the start menu layout and always wished for a CHTEditor grid type layout. Can't wait to try it out!
EDIT: Tried it out and love it. On my HD2, pressing the hard Start button seems to confuse it for a few seconds and then nothing. The soft Start button works fine and the app is VERY good in general. Like others have said, it would be perfect for me if the hard button worked or could be mapped, the scrolling speed was increased and folder creation.
Excellent job!
Can you do a 4 column version also?
Plus 1 for folder creation for this menu.
I contacted Cookie once and he said Cookie Manila Start Menu would be on his next release. Seems like you beat him to it
OIY OP FUK YOU.....
but in all seriousness, I offered a bounty both here at XDA and over at PPCG for a CHT or classic WM6.1 StartMenu/Programs for $20...
Keep up the good work, make it (talk to CHT/CHTE) compatible and customizable with CHT/CHTE to be merged into or if you want to keep it alone make it an add-on still for CHT/CHTE (so we can change the columns/row amount/setup)
$20 for the finalized version with customization possibilities (it can do folders?), make that bottom row optional and customizable, Recent Programs or Folders or like Win7 even with the "Pin to StartMenu"
Either way, when done and I can use it reliably $20 is yours (paypal?!)
hi i installed this program and it does saved 10 M ram! thanks a lot!
however i have a few problems. in sense 2.5, the calendar and setting tabs dissappeared.
i also try to map this program to a hardware key, but can't seem to find the shortcut to the app. can you tell me where to find it?
thanks for helping!!!
Hi everyone, I am a cooker ( doing great things, but mainly a noob one compared to some masters out there ) .
Cooking on the Omnia I900 & Acer S200 ( french rom only), these devices have low memory.
For example the acer S200 only has 256mb of ram, but mainly the same hardware than the powerful HD2(except ram....:-( )
Arto ( great cooker of the Acer S200 scene ) has found that removing the start menu completely gains 15mb Ram on our devices ( by fooling the system with empty .cpr grid, icons caches aren't generated.)
This can help people make really light roms!!! The main problem now is the we don't have here a real startmenu alternative, a eye candy one than keep the spirit of our devices... Quickmenu is functionnal but not too beautiful.
After many searches over xda, the only thing I found was Quickmenu and the sense Startmenu replacement ( I modded the kenia1234 startmenu replacement to give it 5 columns, here is the work : 5 columns start sense2.5 menu replacement )
I don't know why developper aren't interested in making a real , fast and beautiful startmenu replacement ( with full fonctionnality, at least control panel wikth .cpl files abilty, and even more folder architecture, fullscreen, lightweight ),
but here is the request or that, If others than me are interested, please reply and tell your needs, to help developpers...
Something like Panoramic Launchpad would be great!
Last week I started creating a startmenu alternative. It's very underdeveloped, and I have no idea when it's finished, but to give you an idea I attached two screenshots.
It still lacks a couple of features (if someone can point me in the right direction, please do so ):
- no control panel items yet
- no icon transparency (I got that working, but it was horribly slow)
- no background (because of the lack of transparency)
- no hook on the hardware windows key (like quickmenu)
- no hook on the software start button (like ameba does on winmo 6.5.x)
- if there's no png file attached to a link, no icon is displayed
But the other basics are working:
- starting programs by clicking (yes I know, very basic )
- flipping pages by swyping your finger (left->right, right->left, up->down, down->up)
- opening folders, and going back up one level with the left soft button (just like the usual start menu)
I actually started this because I'm not a fan of the hexagon grid styled start menu, not because of memory issues. I did take a look at the current memory usage of my start menu, and currently it is 1.41MB. But that will grow with more icons and transparency I guess.
If you're interested I can continue developing this startmenu.
The most important thing to me is ram usage, the lower it is the best it is,
the png file limitation to display an icon should be reconsidered, the ability to display native icon is much more important, or, much easily to program, you can make your app request the "HKLM\Security\StartInfo\Start\myprog.lnk" key to read the icon you should display, if nothing is entered, lets just start the native icon.
This is important to make your startmenu replacement user friendly. nobody likes assigning manually an icon to an app, having the ability to do it is good, but the most important for the users is that your program automaticaly displays the native icon like the start menu does.
To use cpl, you just have to use a ctlpnl.exe command line, like this :
ctpnl.exe mycpl.cpl
if cpl has multiple tab, ctpnl.exe mycpl.cpl,1 ( where the number is the tab you want to be open)
for cpl files, I thinks its the big part of the job :-(
What I meant with:
- if there's no png file attached to a link, no icon is displayed
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My program uses the icons set in HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start, but if it's an older program, there might not be a high resolution icon, and in that case I won't display any icon. That's something I will fix ofcourse.
I'll have a look at the cpl files, and I guess google will help me there as well.
Also looking for a way to show my startmenu instead of the winmo startmenu, but no luck so far. If anybody knows how to catch when the winmo startmenu is activated in c#, please let me know.
Hi guys
Have you ever heard of iPhoneToday http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633618 ? It's so light and configurable
XTask has a good looking, light start menu replacement.
If you leave out the start_icon.png's, then the native icons are used. The 6.5 start menu also slows down boot time dramatically. Just delete all the shortcuts, soft reset, and check the millisecondtoidlethread in hkcu/performance. Boot time may be 20-30 seconds faster.
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Last week I started creating a startmenu alternative. It's very underdeveloped, and I have no idea when it's finished, but to give you an idea I attached two screenshots.
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If you're interested I can continue developing this startmenu.
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This certainly looks very interesting! Please continue, I also hate the honeycomb (as many people around).
I like this
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What I meant with:
My program uses the icons set in HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start, but if it's an older program, there might not be a high resolution icon, and in that case I won't display any icon. That's something I will fix ofcourse.
I'll have a look at the cpl files, and I guess google will help me there as well.
Also looking for a way to show my startmenu instead of the winmo startmenu, but no luck so far. If anybody knows how to catch when the winmo startmenu is activated in c#, please let me know.
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Hi m8
I also hate the startmenu but this is cose it eats arround 30mb of ram...
There is a way to disable the default startmenu ....
Look this post its working fine on Blackstone NRG roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7911317&postcount=16270
I just dont like the replacement menu or the quickmenu
Your app can be assigned to startmenu button with ameba
If can i help with your project on this just let know
Also keep in mind that many shells (Throttle Launcher, Mobile Shell etc) read the data to load program shortcuts from the start menu, so that the replacement has to take care of that too.
what do you think about wisbar 4? would this be an alternative to quick menu? i was using this prog. a year ago and i was totaly impressed. now i use it again together with the new energy rom from august 28. after the replacement from the start menu i have real nice and fast blackstone