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When using my Touch Cruise with Manila 2D, I was able to change the number of rows and columns for the Launcher Tab with M2DC, but now I was unable to find the solution to modify Touch HD's Program Tab, and apparently the options is not available to Advanced Config Tool and HD Tweak, anyone can point out to me how to do it?
Thanks a lot.
Yes, I like to know that too. When you use NoProgBack.cab and get rid of the gray cubes the 3 horizontal items are lost in space. It can handle 4 items next to each other with ease. The spin off would be that the tab can contain more programs.
Or, if that's easier: how to make two tabs called Programs...
Regards,
I don't start a new thread cause that's exactly what I am looking for... any news since december ?
I'd also be interested in any means of extending the amount of apps that can be accesed via the programs tab, beyond the standard 24.
If you add a 25th key and other details into the registry a new "option" block appears - but it is unusable.
Has anyone managed to get more than 24 option blocks on the standard HTC Touch HD Orange Rom type of Manila?
From settings tab: Touchflo3d v.1.3.35350.1_1630.38
from WinMo SETTINGS>TOUCHFLO>About v3.0 (Build 32567)
I'm not on a custom ROM and don't have the enthusiasm for using a custom rom.
Tiffa said:
When using my Touch Cruise with Manila 2D, I was able to change the number of rows and columns for the Launcher Tab with M2DC, but now I was unable to find the solution to modify Touch HD's Program Tab, and apparently the options is not available to Advanced Config Tool and HD Tweak, anyone can point out to me how to do it?
Thanks a lot.
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Yes, I like to know that too. When you use NoProgBack.cab and get rid of the gray cubes the 3 horizontal items are lost in space. It can handle 4 items next to each other with ease. The spin off would be that the tab can contain more programs.
Or, if that's easier: how to make two tabs called Programs...
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I don't start a new thread cause that's exactly what I am looking for... any news since december ?
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I believe this is your answer - CookieMonster
TouchFlo Detacher is yet another way to simultaneously have TouchFlo 3D and the regular Today screen. Previous excellent solutions include SecondToday and ManilaControl.
Description
So what makes it different? Well, this app is actually very similar to MastSogo's ManilaControl. The main difference is that the author plans to actively develop it for a while, whereas ManilaControl has been a bit frozen in development for a few months. It is also open source, licensed under the Ms-RL. The program is on CodePlex, so download speeds should be much better than the average rapidshare link. Finally, it is in English and not Spanish. Other than that, it's just another solution for the same problem!
See it in action on the YouTubes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk0xWm8PMGQ
Download the CAB and source code here: http://www.codeplex.com/TFDetacher
Installation
As explained on CodePlex...
1. Install the CAB
2. Run the configuration app
3. Enable all the standard Today Items you want to use
4. Do not re-enable TouchFlo 3D in the Today items (if you do, it will undo all your other Today plugins)
Requirements
Windows Mobile 6.1
.Net Compact Framework 2.0
A device that runs TouchFlo3D / Manila
Current features
- Free up your Today screen by hosting Manila outside of the Today screen! TouchFlo Detacher can launch/show/hide/close Manila independent of any other Today screen settings. Now you can have your TouchFlo cake and eat it too! The most obvious use is to assign a soft key to toggle between seeing TouchFlo and seeing the regular Today screen.
- Service runs as a background application (in your StartUp folder) for maximum speed when toggling Manila modes.
- NO ANNOYING SPLASH SCREEN when application launches.
- Service is 100% idle when not receiving messages or controlling TouchFlo, so no CPU is wasted! (Just a tiny bit of RAM)
- Configuration application allows modifying manila.exe location, manila window class, and more, so that this utility can (presumably) be used with other manila versions (such as TouchFlo 2D). This is untested. Out of the box, it supports TouchFlo 3D in its default configuration as seen on the Diamond/Pro/HD.
- Configuration application can clean out the ManilaActivateToday.exe from the notification queue. (That app can interefere with TouchFlo Detacher's operation.)
- Shortcuts to start/show Manila, hide Manila, and close Manila. These can be assigned to hardware buttons (if your device has them) or virtual hardware buttons through the use of 3rd party applications such as AE Button Plus.
- Configuration application can customize the softkeys in both Today and TouchFlo's Home tab. You can use it to not only assign TouchFlo Detacher operations (show/hide/close), but any other application on your device.
I want only to say many thanks for that cab it works very good on my Touch HD ... Great App cardefbel
THE best piece of software I've downloaded. Used it on both Touch Diamond and Touch HD and love it!
Perfect - thanks
Thanks for this awesome app....
Would I be correct in thinking that with your app I can go all out on WAD2 or something and still be able to switch back and forth between WAD2 and Touchflo without all the hassle?
Thanks. Downloaded, installed, and be able to switch between TF3D and my old style today with Spb Diary.
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Would I be correct in thinking that with your app I can go all out on WAD2 or something and still be able to switch back and forth between WAD2 and Touchflo without all the hassle?
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This is not my application, but I realy love it and would share it with y'all.
Is it also possible to have TF3D together with SPB today screen combined whit SPB mobile shell?
Hi Guys,
i add a screenshoot just to share with you the result of this great app.
i have one question, maybe someone of you have the same problem.
i am running the "non TF3D" screen with Resco today plugin and launcher.....if i try to put a background (via setting Today, use picture as background...) no matter which kind of picture i choose, they are opaque.
cant figure out a solution.
thanks and Ciao!
that app is very great. but i got ine problem that the home icon button dont's work, it just has the force feedback.
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Hi Guys,
i add a screenshoot just to share with you the result of this great app.
i have one question, maybe someone of you have the same problem.
i am running the "non TF3D" screen with Resco today plugin and launcher.....if i try to put a background (via setting Today, use picture as background...) no matter which kind of picture i choose, they are opaque.
cant figure out a solution.
thanks and Ciao!
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hey guy,
can you share with us how you achieve your today screen as you attached?
it is nice.
Sounds great, will keep an eye on this one!
giangishanghai said:
Hi Guys,
i add a screenshoot just to share with you the result of this great app.
i have one question, maybe someone of you have the same problem.
i am running the "non TF3D" screen with Resco today plugin and launcher.....if i try to put a background (via setting Today, use picture as background...) no matter which kind of picture i choose, they are opaque.
cant figure out a solution.
thanks and Ciao!
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Look at the this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468215&highlight=today+background+transparent
It solves your problem.
cardefbel said:
Look at the this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468215&highlight=today+background+transparent
It solves your problem.
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Thanks cardefbel !!!
i can tell that this is the best suggestion i have never got in this forum.
you have got the point at the first shot!!!!!! and i have my second today with a brilliant background.
of course thanks to chaosdefinesorder that playing with the device have found out the problem.
for those are asking about my second today:
Resco today plugin
Resco explorer 2008
that's it.
ciao!
Looks great!
I have tried WAD2 and Spb Mobile Shell and I like many of the things that those things bring that TF3D doesn't. I like them both, but I have not been able to break away from the TF3D which is one of the major factors I purchased the phone. Now I can have my cake and eat it too. We'll give it a shot! Thanks.
Update - I loaded it and it seems to work great. I loaded back my Spb Mobile Shell and seems to be working nicely between. It did take a few tweaks, but it is running fine. One thing however is that when I am back in TF3D my hard home key doesn't work to bring me back to the TF3D home. Any ideas?
Thanks for the program cardefbel but I am having a problem with it....notice that if I'm using the SPB screen it won't go back to TF3D after 15mins.....if I want my TF3D i need to reboot it.....but if I on the TF3D I can swap to SPB anytime.....
absolutely excellent, having my appointments on the screen with a 1 button press to TF3D is awesome
WingZer0n said:
Thanks for the program cardefbel but I am having a problem with it....notice that if I'm using the SPB screen it won't go back to TF3D after 15mins.....if I want my TF3D i need to reboot it.....but if I on the TF3D I can swap to SPB anytime.....
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Are you using SPB mobile shell or SPB pocket plus. I tried to reproduce it with SPB mobile shell, but the switching to TF3D worked for me after 15 mins.
BTW, it's not a program I wrote, found it on the net and realy liked it.
I have a problem with WEATHER page
I have started the program
il works perfectly BUT
if i go in the weather page, under TF3D, he changes automatically to today.
Any idea ????
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One thing however is that when I am back in TF3D my hard home key doesn't work to bring me back to the TF3D home. Any ideas?
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Same issue here .. If anyone has a key..
I prefer to have this button for TF3D Home instead of going back to Today
Manila
No Manila
Just out of curiosity to see what you guys are using.
I personally dont use manila, with the default home screen i see everything im interested in on the main screen.
i use it and like it
now i wait for a final version of manila 2.6
wah im surprized haha,, i actually thought everyone would be using the default home screen!
Woaaaah, why would you buy an HTC device if you shut down the main reason of it? TF3D makes WM so much easier and it's the biggest reason why I bought a HTC TD2. But to answer the poll, I sometimes turn of TF3D and use the normal home screen with some plugins like SPB News, SPB Weather and SPB Wireless Monitoring.
I started off with manila in Wm6.1
But when i went to WM6.5, Titanium looked a hell lot better than the normal today screen.. and it took up a lot less resources. (I found manila to run pretty slow.. random split second halts and judders here and there)
Manila
had a BA earlier.. had winmo 6.5 with titanium on it. Now i'v switched to Blackstone..
still have the default ROM wid winmo 6.1 n manila 1.3xx version i m liking it over titanium on BA
thinking of flashing soon so that i can compare titanium and manila on my blackstone
I think manila/htc sense is not just the best UI on wm devices, but also the best UI on all phones. I think it's far better than the s-class UI on LG devices and much, much better than the touchwiz interface on samsung devices.
i do agree that it makes everything so much easier, but what kills me is the warp, like Nickch said, the split second, while scrolling from side to side, and then without u wanting it you've stopped at the music tab, and you cant go on cause the phone takes a mini time to load ur music files,.. i hope in the HD2 is much smoother!
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 FTW
i usually install a manilla ROM but adding TFDETACHER to switch it to the classic today screen !
SPB 3 - best UI I've ever seen
Manila to me is better: I tried PointUI, SPB 3, Titanium (gastly!), standard home, widgets home and so on...
The only problem is the limited link personalization.
D'rath
I use Manilla - while it isn't as customisable as other shells, it is the most practical. You can see multiple appointments without hassle and has a favourite programs launcher =]. Another big plus is the Manilla Calendar app in v2.6 - the fact that Manilla even covers the ugly Windows Calendar app when you input a new appointment is awesome.
Tried SPB Mobile 3/3.5, but the widgets are just too ugly and i couldn't find widgets that I liked with the user-made ones
PointUI looks interesting, but i feel that it wouldn't provide /that/ much of an advantage.
Titanium is good looking and smooth, but impractical for appointments and the user-made plugins (e.g.: fav contacts, etc) are not refined enough to look that nice.
I swap quite regularly between Titanium and PointUI. I love both of them equally. I did really love TouchFLO for a long time, but found what other people have said - it's occassionaly laggy and/or slow, and sometimes doesn't even notify me of things like new texts or emails.
Looking forward to trying the latest Manila on my new HD2 next week. I reckon the 1GHz CPU should make a difference, maybe
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5
I was using Manila for couple of days and then I found SPB Mobile Shell 3.0. After this switching back to Manila (every time when I installed a new ROM), was a disappointment. Still completely faithful to SPB Mobile Shell, now in updated version 3.5
I tried them all for a while (SPB,Titanium, PointUI), forcing myself to like them, but in the end I ALWAYS go back to manila. It presents all the info nicely on the home screen, and allows a nice interface to see your sms and emails with just a tap on the slider. I love the way sms and emails appear in manila, instead of SBP using the standard windows mobile messaging thingie.
Now tf3d 2.5 or 2.6 watever it is rocks my pants off and to me is the best interface for the hd.
I love Manila 2.5, but it could be visually better with the Manila 2.1 "People" and "Email" Widgets...The cube-like slider columns and row isn't much of an eye candy! IDK..just my opinion...
I use Manila 2.5 and I have to say I'm impressed with it. I love HTC's additions to hide the base WM environment. I have tried Point UI, SPB MS 2/3/3.5 and a couple of others and the only other time I would use something that wasn't TF3D would be if I wanted simplicity and in that I would use titanium.
Manila for me wins hands down currently.
I don't like Manilla 2.5, it's just too slow. I like Manilla 2.1, which is a lot faster, but I'm sad to see that all the roms that come with manilla are full of bloatware
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SPB 3 - best UI I've ever seen
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I am absolutely agree with you!
this is my first winmo phone so far
along its good features there are some bad ones
in comparison to other phones i used
its alot more complicated and dinasaur like user interface(at least for finger tapping)
i already lost my stylus which is gay... it caught onto something today and is now M.I.A. (only had it for 2 weeks)
the menus are way too small for normal finger and i dont have any nails.
i didnt nottice any major increases in the amount of tweaks besides registry editor. but that is acomplished by other means in many other phone OSes. like patches and editing the install files.
as far as actual user interface there are random one liners here and there.
for example: a pretty common guide you find in alot fo phone forums is how to create your own skin(theme) even software for it is available and beeing developed. not for WINmo.
you would think there would be much more flexibility in creating your own unique user interface. but as far as i know its opposite.
most of the skins are just wallpaper and color variations.
with same layout and menus.
now heres what i need help with
im using leaked TMO rom with 6.5
today window:
can i move the clock to the top bar?(im not that blind, the digit animations are cool for first few days...) i jsut want something simple.
can i make the weather tab more transparent?
can i get rid of call history and calendar buttons?
can i switch the camera and all people soft buttons?
can i make the shortcuts like they are on blackberry phone so it will show selected shortcuts wen i press one button without scrolling?( one of the cooked roms had something similar where shortcuts were under calendar scroll up)
then.
how can i arrange the start menu in windows style but with medium sized icons i hate scrolling thru a long list of programs.
is there a setting to go straight to INBOX and ALL messages? because the preview is very annoying. i still have to press a button to view. theres no purpose for it besides being cool at first.
thats it for now
forgot one more thins
how can i select an item without activating the link?
in other words "mouse-over" since theres no cursor when i tap it automatically selects and opens the item. i fkn hate that. when you try to select something in order to go to menu and it activates the item so i have to close it and start again.
like tapping on a phone number it starts caling right away WTF. makes me not want to use alot of features when i have to do everything twice..
SPB Mobile Shell
Too long try to minimize writings so people dont get bored
have you checked SPB Mobile Shell? .. its a really good customizable UI
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/
It sounds like you just don't like the HTC Sense interface. As mentioned, SPB Mobile Shell is a very popular alternative. Otherwise, there are countless other Today screen plugins available (but many are outdated and require stylus). Or perhaps the default WinMo 6.5 Titanium interface will suit your needs?
im not sure if it comes with the winmo 6.5
whats the difference between sense and touch flo? if any
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im not sure if it comes with the winmo 6.5
whats the difference between sense and touch flo? if any
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default WinMo 6.5 Titanium interface is the normal Windows Mobile 6.5 UI, the one with the one list and you go up and down and scroll vertically.
Manila 2.0 = TouchFlo3D 2.0 (No weather on the clock and no shortcuts above the tabs)
Manila 2.1 = TouchFlo3D 2.1 = Sense 2.1 (Weather on the clock, and no shortcuts above the tabs)
Manila 2.5 = Sense 2.5 (Weather on the clock + Shortcuts above the tabs)
you probably have WM6.5 with Sense 2.1 (A.K.A TouchFLo3D 2.1 A.K.A Manila 2.1)
you can either use the default WM6.5 UI (A.K.A Titanium interface) or Sense 2.1 (A.K.A TouchFLo3D 2.1 A.K.A Manila 2.1) or install SPB Mobile Shell for a whole new experience.
hope things are a little bit clearer
what about the inboxes is there any way to get rid of that dang preview screen and go straight to inbox for txt and email?
Yesterday I installed HTC ROM upgrade and unbeknownst to me installed WM 6.5. It does not seema s bad as some here make out but I have come across a couple of irritation stumbling blocks that I am sure someone here can resolve for me. How the hell do I get into basic wondows/phone settings such as backlight, power settings etc. Is there a way to customise what used to be called the Today screen, now the Home screen I suppose, beyond what little is available on the Home screen menu. In the old 6.1 version I had until yesterday when Touch Flo didn't have a settings option you were dropped back into windows settings, can't find a way to do this now. BTW does Manila = Touch Fl0 3D and is Sense an updated version of the same?
jbevan said:
Yesterday I installed HTC ROM upgrade and unbeknownst to me installed WM 6.5. It does not seema s bad as some here make out but I have come across a couple of irritation stumbling blocks that I am sure someone here can resolve for me. How the hell do I get into basic wondows/phone settings such as backlight, power settings etc. Is there a way to customise what used to be called the Today screen, now the Home screen I suppose, beyond what little is available on the Home screen menu. In the old 6.1 version I had until yesterday when Touch Flo didn't have a settings option you were dropped back into windows settings, can't find a way to do this now. BTW does Manila = Touch Fl0 3D and is Sense an updated version of the same?
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ok, im figuring u have the wm 6.5 now. yes manila is touchflo, and sense is just the newest UI. touchflo3d is a UI and Sense is a UI. if u have touchflo3d and want to change today screen settings(which is limited with out modding) go to ur start menu. then settings. then go today screen. u can change your themes on appearance tabs. if u want windows default today screen, click on the items tab on the bottom of same screen. then u can uncheck touchflo and check windows default. its a more basic setup. if u really wanna modify ur today screen/tf3d, check out the Themes and apps thread here in Rhodium. theres all sorts of tweaks to make ur tf3d look nuthin like it does now. Like transparent sliders, new icons, new taskbar, new transparent clocks, and it goes on and on.
i know it can seem confusing with all the icons trying to find ur main system settings. For the main ones, press start menu. then go settings. then go to system. u will be able to modify backlight/power settings and more. these are the main windows mobile settings. U also have a settings tab in tf3d that lets u change some things in system and tf3d but not as much or detailed like main system settings. try it out
Hi Jeremy.
In the 6.5 ROM you can find all the old regular WM settings by just sliding to the "settings" tab in Sense, and clicking the bottom-left soft key, "All Settings". Yes it's an extra click, and yes it gets annoying.
Manila is the underlying operating name for HTC's custom UI. First version was TouchFlo, then TouchFLO3/TF3D (which you just came off of), then Sense. All of those are just "generations" of Manila.
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Yesterday I installed HTC ROM upgrade and unbeknownst to me installed WM 6.5. It does not seema s bad as some here make out but I have come across a couple of irritation stumbling blocks that I am sure someone here can resolve for me. How the hell do I get into basic wondows/phone settings such as backlight, power settings etc. Is there a way to customise what used to be called the Today screen, now the Home screen I suppose, beyond what little is available on the Home screen menu. In the old 6.1 version I had until yesterday when Touch Flo didn't have a settings option you were dropped back into windows settings, can't find a way to do this now. BTW does Manila = Touch Fl0 3D and is Sense an updated version of the same?
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The fix is noted above, but I would recommend burning a custom ROM. I'm using the Energy ROM, and in that version the Settings goes to the WM settings rather than the Sense Settings tab. Plus, these ROMs can have a lot of nice customized programs already burned in.
I just downloaded and installed Easy Today Launcher on my WM Prof 6.1 and I am really happy with it. It allow you to put shortcuts on your today screen. I have TF3D turned off, so no idea how it works with that. The Easy Today Launcher is free and super easy to use.
thats right...in that tab theres the all settings to...a lil faster..lol
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Hi Jeremy.
In the 6.5 ROM you can find all the old regular WM settings by just sliding to the "settings" tab in Sense, and clicking the bottom-left soft key, "All Settings". Yes it's an extra click, and yes it gets annoying.
Manila is the underlying operating name for HTC's custom UI. First version was TouchFlo, then TouchFLO3/TF3D (which you just came off of), then Sense. All of those are just "generations" of Manila.
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Hi. Thanks for explaining the Manila naming thing.
Unfortunately, for some reason, I do not have the All Settings soft key, its what I was looking for - the same option as in 6.1 with TF3D. Any ideas? Maybe I shoud just flash with the Energy custom ROM and be done with it!
Hello to Austin Texas btw from sunny north london!
Jeremy
I have found the All Settings option, it was under the Menu soft key! Anyway I have taken the good advice of stevedebi and installed the Energy custom ROM, which was a cinch to install and looks fanatsts so far. A happy man here!