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Hey all,
I love the work Kyphur has done and am using .10 of his Live ROM now with no problems. I see .20 is coming out, but he has put ClearVUE PDF back. Am I the only one that thinks this program sucks? On my HTC Hermes I went through everything I could do to get rid of it, and I am loving PocketXdf right now, but now it seems to be coming back! Lets vote on it and maybe change Kyphur's mind!
best pdf viewer
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i have a copy of PICSEL BROWSER... imho its the best..
if kyphur wants to embedd this one in the .2 version of the rom.. ill send it to him by PM
I dont think we should be picky, it is his ROM but I vote pcketxpdf, small and low resources. Pretty quick viewing, and free.
I have had problems opening some pdfs with both the clearvue and pocketx so my vote goes for adobe even though it has the most memory footprint. Cant have it all i guess....
I would vote for Adobe, as I also have had problems opening newer pdf's with PocketXpdf and ClearVue. and Adobe is also free...
Isn't Adobe also like 8MB?
Okay, I hear you. ClearVue got back in because I never removed it from my original Base Rom.
I want to Release v0.20 Wednesday Evening. So to be sure I have time to do as voted, this vote will be closed Tuesday Evening at 8:00Pm (US Central Std Time (-6.00 GMT).
This is a Rom for the people, by the people and of the people... err well maybe not that last one but you know what I mean...
Kyphur
I initially voted for PocketXPDF but I'd like to retract that vote and put it in for Adobe. Less than 5 minutes after voting, I quickly found the limitation of my selection as it couldn't open 2 different PDF's mailed to me. Adobe doesn't have an issue with these files on my friends 8525.
I don't understand why the WM5 version of Foxit Reader never makes it to these PDF viewer listings... it's the smallest memory footprint (1,350kB), fast like hell, works fine here since ages...
Sorry, I couldn't list them all, maybe vote for install your own!
szlevi said:
I don't understand why the WM5 version of Foxit Reader never makes it to these PDF viewer listings... it's the smallest memory footprint (1,350kB), fast like hell, works fine here since ages...
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One vote for PocketXPDF
I keep service documentation with me in PDF - files as big as 30MB. I have installed Adobe, ClearVue, PocketXPDF and Foxit Reader. I got less problems browsing big documents with PocketXPDF so it is associated with .pdf extension in my TyTN.
My vote goes to adobe.
I used ClearVue and I don't like it (does not open all pdf files), never used pocketXpdf but apparently it also has problems with some files.
So its better 8mb of reliable program than 1mb of problems.
ClearVue PDF is actually a commercial product, but I guess it's embedded in most HTC phones anyway, so not a big deal.
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My vote goes to adobe.
I used ClearVue and I don't like it (does not open all pdf files), never used pocketXpdf but apparently it also has problems with some files.
So its better 8mb of reliable program than 1mb of problems.
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I think Adobe should be off the list since it is HUGE. I have not heard of problems with pocketxpdf, but if it is true then stick with clearvue. 8MB is ridiculous.
in terms of reliability, I would vote for Adobe.
If Adobe reader can be aqueezed into the ROM that will be great, even though it is 8mb, it wont take up any user ROM storage.
If it cannot be squeezed in then I would go for pocketxpdf.
Clearvue is ridicously slow and unusable when viewing multiple pages imho.
hmpf...
Pleeease,
not Adobe. Its a massive RAM eater.
I did install PocketX a couple of days ago and it works great.
I'm closing this discussion
If I have any hope of changing it for tomorrow's release I can't wait longer for the results. Looks like Adobe gets it.
Like anything embedded in the Rom if you don't like it simply don't use it and install what you prefer, it won't touch your RAM if you never launch it and deleting 1 shortcut from your Programs folder won't hurt anyone.
In the event that I can't get it in in time for this release then it will be in the next one.
Hey everyone, I am running an XDA IIs at the moment, and have alot of pdf's that I would like to read on my one hour bus ride into the city, I have tried the latest adobe reader but it is slow and not very "reading" friendly. Does anyone have any suggestions, I have tried converting the pdf is .doc format but that is a no go as well because I could never find a coverter that actually worked. I did a little search on this forum but no definitive results. Thanks alot
On my device, ClearVue PDF is preinstalled. But there is also a good freeware alternative (PocketXpdf).
Hey there Alegra, thanks for the tip, will give it a try... will also see if I can purchase ClearVue for a try.
i often convert dpf's to Lit to use the ms ebook reader which is free and let one set bookmarks which is importent if i read whole novels
That might be a good idea, I do like the .lit format, will have a look at that too
Did you tried XPDF?
http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/
Freeware and work's great.
Valeriu
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Hey there Alegra, thanks for the tip, will give it a try... will also see if I can purchase ClearVue for a try.
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If it is preinstalled, you don't need to buy it. If not, there are enough freeware alternatives.
You can also look for the thread "iPhone style browser" here in the forum. That's Picsel Browser, also a very good web browser / Office / PDF viewer.
EDIT: XPDF is a PDF viewer for computer (I couldn't find a Windows Mobile version on their page). There is a port for Pocket PC (PocketXpdf) which I already mentioned.
I'm really curious about how Office Mobile performs on HTC Touch HD.
As i tried it with HTC diamond i view doc file or pdf file in vertical way and can be ZOOMED easily. But when i tried it in horizontal way these two file types aren't zoomable ? Is it the same to HTC Touch HD. Is there any solution for it ? Can u show me your picture with the solution. Many thanx. That's the most important thing i really care about the HD because as u know it's very nice to browse web on HTC touch HD but is it the same to reading offline document (pdf and doc file i really hate to read in vertical way especially for pdf file)
I took some pictures of a pdf and a doc file, each in portrait and in landscape mode. I could zoom fine at all times in every mode. The Word doc is at 75% zoom in the pictures. For Word, you have the option of 50, 75, 100, 150, 200% zoom. I also included a picture with the keyboard showing in landscape, so you see how much screen it takes.
Keep in mind that when reading pdf files, there are two options:
1. If the file is "tagged", then it's text will reflow upon zooming. This means you don't have to scroll left and right to read a long sentence. It will just reflow to the next line, so you only have to scroll up and down. This is nice for reading, but the layout might be messed up depending on whether or not there are pictures, tables, columns etc.
2. If the file is not tagged, then it will look just like on your desktop pc. You'll have to scroll up/down and left/right to read.
I believe transferring a pdf through ActiveSync can (or will?) tag it in the process. I'm not sure, though. However, a pdf file transferred through normal copy and paste into a folder will not be tagged.
On your desktop PC you can also open adobe and select to view a file in tagged (=reflow) view. Just open a pdf, zoom in so that you can't see an entire text line from left to right. Then press Ctrl+4 or go to view--zoom--reflow.
I find that the search function in a pdf on a pocketpc is really slow. However, I must say that some of the pdf files I've tried it on are 700 pages long. I don't read them on my HD; they are more of a reference material.
I hope it helps.
EDIT: I FORGOT SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT..... Keep in mind that to rotate these files into landscape mode, you need third-party software like Gsen or Gyrator!
I noticed that there was no option for reflow on the Acrobart Reader LE built in my HD. However, I have found Adobe Reader LE Diamond version from the net and it can use reflow for all the pdf books I have tried so far. It has the option in both landscape and vertical orientations. One proplem I had was once you make full screen there is no way back. But still,it not a big deal. PDF performance has been increased a lot with this version and I have been reading huge sized boks since.
Micro olap chm reader is also perfect for CHM books and works very vell on HD
Correct, I don't see a reflow option in Adobe Reader LE on the HD either. I didn't know you had one on the Diamond.
As far as the full screen issue - when you are in full screen just tap twice on the screen to exit full screen mode.
Another suggestion is to convert your pdf file into an ebook. You can do it all for free. I have tried it out with MobiCreator and it worked okay except for any pictures and tables in the pdf. So, depending on the pdf file's contents and layout, you mind find it to work very well or only so-so. The nice thing about doing that is that the text will reflow quite nicely. Anyway, for someone who often reads pdf files on the HD, it would be worth it to give it a test-run. I'm sure there are other software options. I have only tried it with with Mobi. If anyone has any suggestions please post them. One downside here is navigation (unless you spend time creating a few navigation links).
Links:
MobiCreator (will work on Vista too)
MobiReader for the HD (download the second to last one on the list - name = "mobiread.arm.cab"). This allows you to read the created files.
I'll have to check Micro olap chm reader. I have some chm books I would like to load onto my HD. Thanks for the tip.
Thank you very much for your opinion. I'm considering to choose HD or Xperia but now I will buy HTC Touch HD when i go back to UK. Is there any recommend shop in uk which i can buy HTC Touch HD without contract? I found somepeople talk about www.clove.co.uk. Is it safe to buy there i mean in case my phone has any faults on design, software, screen ... Can i send back to the shop or i have to send it to HTC Europe warranty ??
I have tried double tapping of course Unfortunately, in this version with freeflow, it doesn't seem to work. Even if it cannot go out of full screen, acrobat reader le with reflow makes it ideal for reading and I cannnot really complain.
I am attaching the version with reflow but I really cannot remember from which forum/thread I have downloaded this and sorry about the missing credits.
Thanks for the tip regarding MobiCreator I didn't know it could convert from PDF as well.
Hi there,
after some year or so of Windows-Mobile abstinence I am now the proud owner of a Touch HD. Since the device's gorgeous screen and (in my opinion) decent battery life make it an ideal platform for ebook reading, I'd like to ask if someone has already found some Touch-HD-like software. Key points are the absence of suitable hardware buttons for scrolling, so something with drag-'n-scroll or even sensor integration would be nice... Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot,
Abed
I use Mobipocket Reader
http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/ProductDetailsReader.asp
Install on PC then convert PDF, Doc, ... and transfer to SD-card.
On the PocketPC you can turn pages by tapping on the screen
I agree with the above post... MobiReader works great for me... reading a David Webber book on mine now... Couple of tips... Go into the options and turn screen tap navigation on... tapping on the left side on the screen goes back... right side goes forward... I also use gsen to rotate screen automatically and actually hold the device upside down so I don't acccidently press one of the 4 home row keys.
Also Mobi has a fullscreen mode that removes top and bottom bars
AGREE !
Mobipocket is excellent. So much better than Microsoft Reader which since I dumped on my Tytn II I have not used on the HD.
But, I must admit to using my ebook - Iliad - more often than the HD for reading.
Find mobipocket here: www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/application.asp?device=WindowsMobile
iSilo (www.isilo.com). I used it for years on the palmpilot and was very, VERY happy that they had a ppc version, too.
It's the only one which does fullscreen as it should (totally fullscreen, no toolbars or anything else), with correct screen or line scrolling (I use AEbutton to set volume up/down to screen up/down). No screwing around with virtual book pages or whatever...just text (and [embedded] pics) on screen (I mean, wtf, it's an Ebook, not a book...why even have pages!).
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iSilo (www.isilo.com). I used it for years on the palmpilot and was very, VERY happy that they had a ppc version, too.
It's the only one which does fullscreen as it should (totally fullscreen, no toolbars or anything else), with correct screen or line scrolling (I use AEbutton to set volume up/down to screen up/down). No screwing around with virtual book pages or whatever...just text (and [embedded] pics) on screen (I mean, wtf, it's an Ebook, not a book...why even have pages!).
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I use mobipocket which has full screen, but still show critical information all all time such as what time it is, my battery level, a percentage read, etc. Totally full screen is not necessary a good thing. I mean, who wants to get in and out all the time to find out if the bus shoud have arrive by this time, how close am to to finishing the book, etc?
That said, comparing software and improving on my choice of software is my hobby, so thank you for the lead.
If you really want all that info, just don't use isilo in fullscreen mode! And you can set it up however you like, anyway (with/without scrollbar, info bars etc). Personally, when I'm reading I'm reading, and the bus will come whenever it comes...and I'll finish the book whenever it's done...if I really want to know how far in I am, I'll check. So for me, true fullscreen is the best
Some kind of topscreen tap to show battery level when you're reading for a long time would be nice, I guess, but if I'm doing that, I'll probably hit the battery level warning anyway
i like word in mi computer and word mobile in my htc touch hd. i can move with my finger and i can edit text.
i don´t like pdf.
i like isilo and mobipocket because they have a good vision in htc touch hd.
You can remap volume buttons to up and down and use any e-reader
It might be worth having a look through
MoblieRead http://www.mobileread.com/forums/
Mobipocket gets my vote too....
Alreader !
Alreader is definately the best.
Discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449778&highlight=alreader
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325622&highlight=alreader
and elsewhere.
You can find link to version 2.3 (english!) in above discussions.
I'm using AlReader V2.3 now and love it. Is there a way to make it read PDF file though?
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I'm using AlReader V2.3 now and love it. Is there a way to make it read PDF file though?
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PDFs cannot be read by alreader. Use Adobe Reader 2.0
Or: Extract text out of PDF on your PC. Than read text with alreader.
One of the best imho is Alreader 2.3. It works very fine in full screen mode, tap on the right to switch to task bar mode, tap down or up to move one site ahead or back. Huge variety of settings - TOP 1 for me. No need to convert files..
I use "repligo 2" to read my ebooks on the Touch HD. On your PC you can change (via a printer driver) merely each format (pdf, doc, and, and, and) into the repligo format.
Unfortunately the development of repligo is stopped (formerly I could use my fingers to move text, now I have to use the volume buttons to go to the next site of the book) - but for my purpose repligo is a very comfortable prog to read ebooks: A full screen with adjustable fonts and sizes and no disturbing menues. Try it!
it depends on what format of ebook you'd prefer to read
i personally dont like using PDF because when it shrinks the whole page sometimes you cant read anything.
I vote for Mobipocket
most of my ebooks are on PRC format
My old reader was repligo... very nice and you can get a batch converter for pdf.
My new reference is mobipocketreader.
Pro:
:: it's free
:: fullscreen mode with progressbar
:: no problems with clearview (like repligo)
:: perfect reflow
:: hardware button support in fullscreenmode
:: you can change line height and font (I love Helvetica), of course also text size
:: and the best... a FREE converter for ALL important files (html, word, pdf....) with syncronisation when you connect the phone
:: it's a good newsreader too
contra
:: no batch converting of files
:: buggy hardwarebutton support on hd --> only forward, backward don't work
:: interface is very small --> not really touchfriendly
Freda - a new ebook reader
Hi,
Maybe you'd like to give this new program a go?
Jim
Jim Chapman said:
Hi,
Maybe you'd like to give this new program a go?
Jim
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This Freda program is great for our HD's. So simple to use. Highly recommended! Nice one Jim.
Hi,
I'm looking for a DjVu reader running on the newest versions of WM (6.5.x).
I've found some pretty old projects:
pocketDjVu and DjVuCE
I'm going to try them tomorrow if they work.
But I would rather have a fingerfriendly DjVu reader that is made for WM 6.5 (or 6.1 at least, lol).
Any tips ?
They should support WVGA and 800x480 px.
Or perhaps there is a plugin for Adobe Reader?
Update:
I tried pocketDjVu and runs quite well on my 280xx build.
It works with WVGA and except for the option menu you can controll it with your fingers. Not perfect as it was made for WM5 but acceptable.
When zooming it makes a notification that there is not enough RAM for this size but it still works.
Please feel free to post other DjVu readers as there may be a better one .
Anyone else with experience to share in regards to WM 6.1 and application mentioned above or any other app suitable for opening DjVu files?
i tried one of the two programs mentioned above,but i couldnt get my phone to associate it with djvu files.
it would only say "this file is not associated with any...." etc..
+ when i tried to find it inside the program istself it didnt list any of the djvu files.
any tips?
any tips?
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nope, but i can assure you, that this filetype is useless on PDA's.
Let me say this again:
i am fanatic of collecting methods for opening as many filetypes as possible on PDA and that one is not suitable for that kind of devices. Maybe it was matter of size of files i tested, i am not sure about it, page loading was puren nonsense.
Now, what to do?
..i am struggling too. ideal situation would be converting djvu to CBR/CBZ, but...jesus, this would be nightmare.
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any tips?
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quick thought:
did you try to add gsgetfile/tgetfile to your system(file requester changer, A MUST, imo)?
if i am thinking right, maybe that problematic software is just using default WM requester and it is just NOT searching inside of card subfolders. i do not remember what the problem was with these programs - you may try copying test file into /my documents to check, if it became visible(i know, ridiculous advice, but..).
otherwise, use total commander(PPC) for force-assigning filetype to djvu software - it may not work sometimes(it depends, if software can properly use %s's).