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If any of you of you guys are like me you've been waiting for BlackBerry connect to work for the blueangel forever. I have downloaded the software and fiddled with it a million times, the fact of the matter is that it only works for Tmobile UK right now. The rest of us are screwed. But there is an alternative, microsoft has recently release pocket MSN, it works exactly like the blackberry web client, except that after the initial 19.99 fee it is completely FREE!!!!!!. Unlike other push email alternatives where although you might get a few months grace period they are pay services. Pocket MSN pushes your hotmail account directly to your phone, and no text messaging BS like activesync AUTD. its actual push email. You can either foward your email to hotmail, or have your hotmail account search you pop mail boxes. And plus since microsft makes the phones operating system and has access to the source codes, Pocket MSN works seamlessly with the phone. Now that I finish telling the benefits, the downsides is the fact that there is no alert sound when an email comes in, or at least I dont know how to set it up. Another downside is the fact the there is no way for it to push you coporate email, unless you foward your coporate email to hotmail, which is a security risk. Another downside is having to create a hotmail account, but then again you have to create a blackberry account when using blackberry web client. The last downside the I can think of is the 19.99 freaking fee!!!, I guess a one time payment is better the monthly payments that most companies charge. Tell me what you guys think, I think its worth though
^-- thanks for the infomation. This would be an asset so long as it isn't a spamware of some kind and as long as I don't get any spams from MSN.
Is there a email server script that would do the same thing if one owns there own unix server? I will research on this, but just in case someone out there knows the answer.
So what your telling me is that:
* Pocket MSN works with my companies Corporate eMail services
* Pocket MSN works with my companies iPager (Interactive Pager) service
* that my companies multi thousand dollar BES infrastructure can utilize Pocket MSN
* That As a message is delivered to the system you get a notification
* That as a message is delivered to a user I get a notification
* As the user reads the message I get a notification
* As the user deletes the message I get a notification
* That it is instant and ready for corporate usage
* That I can attach an intranet link (not InterNET) and the receiving party can then access that link over the PocketMSN network
Or are you telling me that you nor your company do not highly depend on these features..... because ours (Large telecom company) lives, breathes, and dies by these little devices.
Thanks for your advice on PocketMSN, however I WANT and Need Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC, regardless if you are happy with PocketMSN or not.
I hope all that use and depend on the blackberry devices will continue to borrow, test, and hack the software until one of us gets it working. That's what this board is for.
Raptor
Hmm, I don't think Pocket MSN is implying on changing the face of such technology. Some of us home users don't have the capital to run a service such as yours, nor do we even use your network. I am looking for a free altrenative that works correctly with no string attached. The key word is "alternatrive", NOT replacement.
Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.
Raptor said:
Yes I understand, was just commenting on then first comment to "Stop waiting for BlackBerry connect". I know there are other services (such I am currently using XpressMail), but those of us who are waiting on the Blackberry Connect for Pocket PC...... need just that and no other service will suffice.
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I wasn't aware PocketMSN was pushware. Refuse to pay £20 for the software when it will be free with magneto devices.
Patience on BB - I have been using the latest version, and all indications are that it's mostly good.... as far as BB ever goes on a non-RIM device....
8)
Might not be BES but still great software
Hey Raptor, yeah ok I understand that if your going to use blackberry to the fullest extent, then pocket MSN or any alternative does not nearly match up. But alot of us only use the most fundamental features of blackberry email, and for that this software seems to be more then enough, as a matter of fact, for those of us who only use blackberry web client, I find Pocket MSN is just as good if not better, paying 20 bucks for the software really sucked especially for a cheap ass like me. But I am not paying any extra monthly fee. Which is good. So this software might not be suitable for your coporate "MEGA" company. But for blackberry Web Client users this software is a great substitute maybe a replacement, I am not sure why microsoft did not offer this for free. Usually when microsoft tries to bully other companies to the ground (Lotus 123, Netscape, Real Audio) they give it away.
Not as cheap as me... Whenever I need to check my Hotmail, I go to http://mobile.msn.com/pocketpc/ and read my Hotmail for free...
Hope the Pocket MSN pushed email feature comes with message notification. If not, it's no better than going to the link above...
For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!
For something that's "in the middle groud" try Smartners "always on mail" (www.alwaysonmail.com) 2 months free then $4 per month. True push e-mail, so no need to keep checking e-mail accounts..
To fix the alarm and wake up problems I recommend trying Pockmax AlarmToday and PhoneAlarm (www.pocketmax.net). Great apps and great tech support form Bruce!
Questions About Pocket MSN
For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David
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davpel said:
For those who have tried Pocket MSN, a few questions:
- How does this app impact battery life?
- Has anybody been able to get audible alerts working?
- Are you positive this does not rely on test messages/autd?
Thanks in advance.
David
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Does it impact battery life, yes i guess it does. Because technically your leaving your gprs data connection on all the time. But if you compare it to checking your email every ten minutes then its way better. AS for audible alerts i have not been able to figure that out as of yet. And yes i am positive that there are no text messages, it is purely data based
To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.
Thanks for the quick reply. One more question. Do you know whether you can specify a "reply to" address for replying to messages recieved on your device via Hotmail? The reason that I ask is that if I go this route, I will set up a Hotmail account and have it pull my mail from my normal email accounts via POP/IMAP, but when I reply by phone, I don't want the Hotmail address showing. I know that I can do this with the standard Pocket Outlook mailbox and with the autd/exchange solution.
If this works for me, I guess the crappy thing is that it will cost me about 40 bucks. 19 fo Pocket MSN, and then another 19 yearly for Hotmail Plus since, as far as I can tell, Microsoft now makes you get a Plus account if you want to be able to have your Hotmail account pull from POP/IMAP. Kind of crappy, if you ask me. Yahoo!'s free service includes POP/IMAP.
David
Couldn't you just set up a forward from your pop3 account to hotmail?
Yes, forwarding will work. But then if I hit "reply" to the message, it will send the reply to my POP account rather than the actual sender -- at least, that's what I assume will happen.
To Raptor - chill out - nobody is planning to take your toys away. We aint curing cancer here.
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Obviously you do not understand.... with better communications programs we are much closer to curing caner and a host of other diseases....
I've had a quick poke around and cant find anything obvious about tweaking the activesync security settings so it doesnt lock out after the configured time when running an app such as TomTom, bit useless if it keeps doing it realy. Our Policiy is max 20 mins before the device locks. bit of a PITA if youre trying to navigate your way somewhere.. anyone got any ideas??
I'm having the same problem. I have my device setup with MS Exchange and the password lock is set to kick after 5mins. Annoying for navigation software.
Any more info on this?
yep there's a small app attached, once installed it intercepts the exchange policy push which allows you to set the lock to kick in when you want it or just to switch it off, I would suggest that you use it with caution, as you would be breaching your company's security policy, e.g. only disable the password when you are using tomtom, the rest of the time you should set it to whatever your company security policy is.
Disclaimer, I am not telling you to use this so you use it at your own risk.
Nice one- seems to be working a treat.
I am using Exchange server for work email and use LockPicker to get by the constant entering of a security code to un-lock the phone. Not sure I should load 2.2 because the developer has informed me that LockPicker will not work with 2.2. If anybody is running 2.2 and Exchange server, does 2.2 offer an option of the screen time out vs. the exchange lockout????
Im running exchange and have to enter the code if the phone sleeps for more than 15 minutes. The time is adjustable, plus the code entry keyboard is huge not a problem to enter at all, overall its a minor pain but workable. The guys that developed lockpicker have an app out that disables this, it is only in the beta stage now and not released to the general public but should be soon.
if found that any of my end users were attempting to disable/bypass the Exchange security...i would haul their ass to HR faster than they could enter their PIN.
DraginMagik said:
if found that any of my end users were attempting to disable/bypass the Exchange security...i would haul their ass to HR faster than they could enter their PIN.
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He He, I'm thinking if I were an IT guy i'd do that too. Lucky for me I'm an end user, I'm hoping somebody comes up with a way to just toggle the time to a longer value say options for 30 - 60 minutes. In reality the new code entry screen is a breeze to use, not such a big deal as before. I'm just wondering if the time delayed is specified by the Exchange server or if it is built into the phone app.
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I'm hoping somebody comes up with a way to just toggle the time to a longer value say options for 30 - 60 minutes.
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/shudders at the thought.
I haven't played with it yet, but pray there is no way for my end users to set a 60min lockout period. that's just waaaaaay too long. how long do you have before your work desktop auto-locks? 15min? and that is for a device that doesn't move and if anyone else is at it would draw attention.
perhaps you feel that you are not important on the food chain and have nothing important in your email. but as these type devices get more powerful folks keep more data on them... pictures, movies, xls, doc, mp3 etc. plus tons of email (with email addresses, names and numbers), some folks will setup the VPN function and map network folders or setup VNC/RDC connections (server names, ip addresses and domain name).
it's not "JUST" that someone may see who you're going to lunch with or that your racquetball game got rescheduled. its all that other crap that concerns us. stuff that you may or may not have. for things that you probably don't see as being a possible security breach. sorry if this has an overbearing tone, it's one of those things i have to beat into folks head everyday.
"i don't care if they know my password, maybe they'll do my work." /facepalm
no...they won't.
ask your favorite IT nerd how many pwd's he has floating in his head and how many times he has to unlock his computer each day.
/steps down from security soapbox
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/shudders at the thought.
I haven't played with it yet, but pray there is no way for my end users to set a 60min lockout period. that's just waaaaaay too long. how long do you have before your work desktop auto-locks? 15min? and that is for a device that doesn't move and if anyone else is at it would draw attention.
perhaps you feel that you are not important on the food chain and have nothing important in your email. but as these type devices get more powerful folks keep more data on them... pictures, movies, xls, doc, mp3 etc. plus tons of email (with email addresses, names and numbers), some folks will setup the VPN function and map network folders or setup VNC/RDC connections (server names, ip addresses and domain name).
it's not "JUST" that someone may see who you're going to lunch with or that your racquetball game got rescheduled. its all that other crap that concerns us. stuff that you may or may not have. for things that you probably don't see as being a possible security breach. sorry if this has an overbearing tone, it's one of those things i have to beat into folks head everyday.
"i don't care if they know my password, maybe they'll do my work." /facepalm
no...they won't.
ask your favorite IT nerd how many pwd's he has floating in his head and how many times he has to unlock his computer each day.
/steps down from security soapbox
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I here ya!!! can we comprimise at 55 mins???? Ok 30 mins?? ;-P How did you know my R-Ball game was rescheduled????????????
/retires from badgering the IT guy!
LOL ... if only we lived in a perfect world.
Solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745065
Anyone here tell me what the actual setting in the Exchange Active Sync profile causes this error? I am working with my IT group to get back access to the Exchange server that is currently locked out because of a missing security setting.
Microsoft dissed me, Samsung blames Exchange, Exchange peeps won't budge with out direction and I love my phone so I won't go back.
Thanks,
Brian
It has to do with security policies... It could be a number of things (I think on the older WM6 phones, sometimes it actually would tell you why)...
Your IT department should be able to look at logs on their side to find out why it's not being passed...
Keep in mind, this could be something as easy as you not having a pin password when you use your phone (phone lock). But if your IT department have changed default settings, it could be something more complicated.
First off, I would set a phone lock password, and try setting up the sync. If that doesn't work, you'll have to wait for your IT department.
Zhariak said:
It has to do with security policies... It could be a number of things (I think on the older WM6 phones, sometimes it actually would tell you why)...
Your IT department should be able to look at logs on their side to find out why it's not being passed...
Keep in mind, this could be something as easy as you not having a pin password when you use your phone (phone lock). But if your IT department have changed default settings, it could be something more complicated.
First off, I would set a phone lock password, and try setting up the sync. If that doesn't work, you'll have to wait for your IT department.
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Thank you for the response. I have tried several gyrations of password before Exchange add, Exchange delete and reinstall, number of things. The real puzzling thing is that the settings they have shown me from screen grabs are all supported by WP7. I posted the error code on the Windows Phone boards at MS and no response yet. I have seen other codes for security issues, this one seems to be a lot more obscure. I was hopping someone could bust out a decoder ring so I could just tell our IT guys what to do (pretty common).
I told them about being able to circumvent the password lock in Win6.5 with a simple registry edit, blew their minds.
IT found the fix, sort of. They rebuilt the security policy as part of an another user issue and the phone syncs correctly. Apparently, importing the security policy from Exchange 2003 into 2010 brings along some baggage.
Still no clue what actually caused it, but if anyone else around the web finds this thread because of the error code, ask your peeps to rebuild the policy. They will have other issues besides yours, eventually.
My company uses an Exchange server for email, and it works great....except for one thing:
Due to their arcane policies, I am only able to use a pin lock on my phone. All of the other lock options are disabled, even face unlock. Also, they have the screen set to time out at 1 minute, which sucks when trying to use pretty much any application.
Does anyone know of a way to override these policies since my device is rooted?
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14577188
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
You could also get Enhanced Email from the market. Although its pricey, it works great.
That is not arcane at all, those are good security practices. This is why Android still lags behind apple and rim at the enterprise level - too many easy hacks to bypass the security that businesses need. Faceunlock can be cracked by a polaroid and many swipe patterns can be guessed by looking at fingerprints on the screen.
Honestly, with all the personal information that resides on a smart phone I don't understand why everyone doesn't have a strong pin on their phones. Hope your buddies don't swipe your phone at the next party, unlock it with a facebook pic, and play some prank with your work email account.
for me I guess its the stupid 1 minute lockout period. For example, if I am trying to use my phone as a GPS, I only get to see the screen for 1 minute. BOOM...locked out.
Pandora... NOPE. locked out after 1 minute, sure the music still plays, but I have to unlock the stupid phone to change songs and what not.
Scold me all you want virtualcertainty, the minimum 6 character pin, and 1 minute lockout drives me nuts.
Wasn't trying to scold you, just explaining the risks involved and the reasons for the policies. I wouldn't recommend to any of my clients to set policies lower than that. And I know a bunch of people that want an android for work but the IT department won't issue one or even allow people to use their own because of the work arounds.
My work policy is a 4 character pin with 1 minute time out. I exceed that on my device - 5 character pin and 30 second time out. In no time you won't notice it at all.
I don't know if this is a bug, but I have been able to remove the pin lock policy on my exchange account EVERY time
This is what I do
Set up Account
When it tells me that it's going to disable face unlock ,etc , HIT THE BACK key
Voila, you're out of there and it lets you go forward.
Don't know if it's our exchange server but that works for me
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for me I guess its the stupid 1 minute lockout period. For example, if I am trying to use my phone as a GPS, I only get to see the screen for 1 minute. BOOM...locked out.
Pandora... NOPE. locked out after 1 minute, sure the music still plays, but I have to unlock the stupid phone to change songs and what not.
Scold me all you want virtualcertainty, the minimum 6 character pin, and 1 minute lockout drives me nuts.
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Then you should probably talk to your employer about it. This is an extremely basic security practice, and like multiple people have already said the easy "hack" to get around the practices is the exact reason most employers don't allow Android users access to their Exchange servers.
My company doesn't allow any Android phones on their Exchange network, exactly for this reason.
BTW, just for reference, it is possible to implement monitoring tools in an Exchange server to notify the administrators of changes to security features. Most employers wouldn't even talk to an employee that's violating security practices...it's just "Here's your box and there's the door". Complain all you want about them, but they're there for a reason. I wouldn't risk it just to escape having to input a key combination.
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My company uses an Exchange server for email, and it works great....except for one thing:
Due to their arcane policies, I am only able to use a pin lock on my phone. All of the other lock options are disabled, even face unlock. Also, they have the screen set to time out at 1 minute, which sucks when trying to use pretty much any application.
Does anyone know of a way to override these policies since my device is rooted?
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I lol'd.
How dare a company try to protect their IP with a password on your phone...
Samsuck said:
I don't know if this is a bug, but I have been able to remove the pin lock policy on my exchange account EVERY time
This is what I do
Set up Account
When it tells me that it's going to disable face unlock ,etc , HIT THE BACK key
Voila, you're out of there and it lets you go forward.
Don't know if it's our exchange server but that works for me
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Maybe your admins didn't force device security. My company doesn't even allow pattern locks
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I lol'd.
How dare a company try to protect their IP with a password on your phone...
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Im totally aware of a company eanting to protect thier IP. I dont even mind having some sort of lock on my phone. But it would br nice to be able to at least bump the lockout time a bit to make the phone useable. Or at least let me do pattern lock.
Theres no sense in trying to make this a pissing contest on security policies.
soapbox,
I sign up to get company email on my own phone as a convenience to both of us. If their security policy was so strict that it made it difficult to use my phone, that convenience would go away and any after hour emails would have to wait until the morning. Obviously not everyone can get away with that, but luckily I can.
I second trying EE,
I picked up Enhanced Email from the amazon app store when it was the free app of the day and have been happy with it(It can disable exchange policies). I do have the lock feature on my phone enabled however because I also use Google Wallet, so I want a little extra protection.
So, you need my phone an also need two separate passwords to use Google Wallet. Hopefully by that time I will have wiped my phone and/or located it.
once on a custom rom, ive never had a problem with exchange security settings. unless i'm going out for a big night (and might lose my phone) i leave the security off.
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once on a custom rom, ive never had a problem with exchange security settings. unless i'm going out for a big night (and might lose my phone) i leave the security off.
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If you are able to turn off the PIN lock while using corporate exchange mail then your exchange server does not have the required security policy.
Unless there's something else you've done which you didn't post.
Samsuck said:
I don't know if this is a bug, but I have been able to remove the pin lock policy on my exchange account EVERY time
This is what I do
Set up Account
When it tells me that it's going to disable face unlock ,etc , HIT THE BACK key
Voila, you're out of there and it lets you go forward.
Don't know if it's our exchange server but that works for me
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Yep, that'll be the server as I get a security pop up and you can't dismiss it. Once setup all other lock options are off limits.
The annoyance for me was the inability to change the time out period, it made it unusable in certain situations.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
BooDaddy... I'm an IT Director for a large, publicly held company. We allow iPhones and Android devices to use our enterprise Exchange email with a 4-digit PIN, 1-minute lock AND the understanding that we can wipe the employee's phone if necessary. Installing software to circumvent this security would violate our security policies and would result in a disciplinary action.
Is this your personal phone or did your company provide it?
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BooDaddy... I'm an IT Director for a large, publicly held company. We allow iPhones and Android devices to use our enterprise Exchange email with a 4-digit PIN, 1-minute lock AND the understanding that we can wipe the employee's phone if necessary. Installing software to circumvent this security would violate our security policies and would result in a disciplinary action.
Is this your personal phone or did your company provide it?
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Not sure how the question is relevant to the thread topic but it is my personal phone.
Look here for solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19792676
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Not sure how the question is relevant to the thread topic but it is my personal phone.
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Not really relevant, just curious because if the company bought it and pays the monthly costs then you really shouldn't have too much to complain about. So I guess it's your choice to connect to the Exchange server, I would never expect a company to mandate corporate email on an employee's personal phone.
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Not really relevant, just curious because if the company bought it and pays the monthly costs then you really shouldn't have too much to complain about. So I guess it's your choice to connect to the Exchange server, I would never expect a company to mandate corporate email on an employee's personal phone.
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Yeah, had it been their phone and plan, I wouldn't mind it. Their dime, their rules.
While its not mandatory for me to have it, it is very handy since I am a systems admin (Linux) and its nice to get alerted via logwatch emails when something bad happens.