{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
[Intro]
This thread is for all of the people who want to try Android but don't have a clue what they're doing.
But then people say:
OMG WHY U DOZ THAT DER R LIEK OVER 9000 (LOL) RIOD TREDS!!!one!11exclamation point!
My answer:
Do you want to sift through the [almost] 900 pages of the official Andriod thread to find a build? Yeah. I didnt think so.
[Sources]
Needed Files
You need all of these files on your SD card root:
(haret.exe) {this runs the program that boots Android}
(default.txt) {this is edited for your device and to the system file you want to run}
(zImage){Basefile; this does not have a file extension, it is just zImage}
(initrd.gz) {Basefile; another one}
(rootfs.img) {Basefile; another one}
(system.img/system.sqsh) The Android OS files {the file can be named either system.img or system.sqsh; see below for notes}
(**.user) {User files, they are like hero.user; rogers.user, ion.user and so on; these tell harnet how to use the system file; see below for notes}
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Created File
This file is created automatically when you run Harnet with a new system file
data.img {this is created when you 1st run harnet, if you are going to use a new system file, rename this file or it will not work!}
User Files
Depending on the system file and/or the base files being used you can have user files in 2 locations. The user files for most builds need to be on the SD card root; and for some they need to be in a folder called CONF. I recommend having them in both places. I was unable to get my Rogers build to work until I put them in that folder. However when I moved (not copied) them into that folder, none of my other builds worked. So I copied them in both locations and now they all work.
Also, when I had them in the wrong location, the build would start, but then the starting animation/logo would loop; just keep playing, and never go into the phone.
Updates?
Just make sure all of these files are on the root of your SD card, and you are good to go. Usually the system, roofts and zImage files get updated on a regular basis, so 1st backup the one that works, try the new one and if it works, leave it. If not, restore the old one and wait for the next one to come out.
Update/Replace System file
If you want to use a new/different system file and don't want to delete the old one, rename the old system file and the data file. I use names like system-robger.img and data-rogers.img; This allows you to have multiple system and data files on one SD card.
Where are the files on the net? They are not on www.AndroidOnHtc.com
There are 2 great sources for files (all of them) and these sites are updated on a regular basis.
Vogue-Android site and Vogue-Hero and yes, these files work great on the kaiser, just make sure to use a default.txt file for a kaiser
[Builds]
Google apps are on all builds!
ION
[10/20/09]ION Hosted on Filedropper
[10/21/09]ION Hosted on MediaFire
ION was built using the latest files from Vogue-Andriod. They weren't tagged with a name. If it was you, let me know so I can give you credit!
What Works:
Wifi
Phone
Camera
Market
Data (if you configure the PPP)
*Note there is no Bluetooth driver yet
HERO
[10/20/09]HERO Hosted on Filedropper
[10/21/09]HERO Hosted on MediaFire
[10/21/09]HERO[jamezelle] Hosted on MediaFire
HERO was built using the zImage and rootfs from KB7SQI amd ZenMagic's system file.
What Works:
Wifi
Phone
Market
Data (if you configure the PPP)
Camera [Only on Jamezelle, through propaint]
*No camera on hero/rogers builds, and as always, no bluetooth yet.
Donut
[10/20/09]Donut Hosted on Filedropper
[10/21/09]Donut Hosted on MediaFire
[10/22/09]Hosted on 4shared.com
What works (as tested; I will update as I continue to test)
Calls
SMS
data connections
e-mail...
CAMERA is working !!!! (not video yet)
[edit]wifi works
What does not work
MMS?
crashes everyonce in a while, but they all do that...
Hosted on 4shared.com
[Data Backup for Build Switching]
Backup non-protected apps
Start by installing Astro file manager from the market. Then open astro and press menu, select tools, select Application Manager/Backup. Select all the apps you want and back them up. You now have the saved apk files in the \Storage Card\Backups folder.
Backup protected apps
If you need to backup a "locked" app (that is not a paid app, if you do use this for EEEVILLL it is on you and your Karma...) anyways back to reality...
1. start ADB (this is a program used on your PC to access the android stuff through Dos; Google it, you will find it and the windows USB driver to use it when in Android mode)
2. Start dos or command line on your computer; go to your ADB folder and type the following:
Code:
adb shell
su
cd data/private-app/
ls
cp app.apk /sdcard/androidapps/app.apk
adb shell is the command to access the device
su to become root; though I don't use this command
cd data/private-app/ takes you to the folder where your apps are stored
ls this is hard to read, but the apps and their names will be there, may have an "m" in front of the name, ignore the "m"
cp app.apk /sdcard/androidapps/app.apk the app.apk is the name of the app, like time.apk or com.crazyman.apk... This copies the apk file to your storage card in the androidapps folder.
Get the files ready
Make a folder on the root of your Storage Card called AndroidApps. Place the .apk files in there. This will install all the apps when you run harnet.
Cleanup
Don't forget to move/name that folder or the apps will reload every time you run harnet. It will also work to install apps later after you have created a data.img
I will give it a try!!
Hello!
Thanks for the quick answer on the other post!
I will give it a try and report back soon!!
This is my system:
ROM: Ultimate-X2.V11 WWE
RADIO: 1.65.14.06
a quick question
a quick question before this thread get swamped aswell. can u guys actually USE android. because i cant and not because of not trying. i can rin everything fine. its just that its so SLOOOWWW. u think my sd card has something to do with it. i got an 8GB class 4. shld i get a smaller 1 or 2 gb one. will that speed it up. its takes FAAAR too long to load ANYHTING. contact list, SETTINGS MENU etc. even on ion ( though its MUCH FASTER THAN HERO)
Everything is running pretty well on my ION build.
Try partitioning the card into 2 4gb sections, or 2 2gb's and a 4gb.
Although, since the data.img is the actual 'hdd' of the phone, there should be no reason why it makes a difference.
Also, make sure you delete your data.img when you run a new build, or thatll mess everything up.
ok , if I was to partition the sd into 2,2,4 which section would the files go into, or would it matter? right now I'm using kb7sqi from 10/18, runs great, no camera, but wifi, calls, e-mail, text,
The camera only works on ION builds. the kb7sqi is a HERO build.
Put it in one of the 2gb parts, but i suggest you try the ION build above first.
Great Thread...
Tyeo098... I have been playing around with the ION and Hero builds for a while and have run into some issues until now... THANK you for this thread, hopefully we will keep it updated!
Only question I have that I see in these configs and did not see in others... my resolution looks grainy, or pixelated. Any reason why I would be seeing this on my Kaiser (ATT Tilt)? I have tried both the ION and Hero version you have posted and both do the same thing, so I am thinking it is something in the default config file. Looks like the default has the correct data settings, so I do not need to change it, and it seems to work fine other than the resolution looking sloppy. And help with this would be VERY appreciated.
Tutungzone said:
Tyeo098... I have been playing around with the ION and Hero builds for a while and have run into some issues until now... THANK you for this thread, hopefully we will keep it updated!
Only question I have that I see in these configs and did not see in others... my resolution looks grainy, or pixelated. Any reason why I would be seeing this on my Kaiser (ATT Tilt)? I have tried both the ION and Hero version you have posted and both do the same thing, so I am thinking it is something in the default config file. Looks like the default has the correct data settings, so I do not need to change it, and it seems to work fine other than the resolution looking sloppy. And help with this would be VERY appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem is with the htc-paneltype option in the default.txt
Cange it from 2 to 1 and it should be fine.
Also, yes I set up the data for ATT not TMOBILE.
donut link doesn't seem to be working
nw86281 said:
donut link doesn't seem to be working
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Filedropper seems to be down. Im working on a MediaFire mirror. It should be up by tonight.
Exchange feature...
Ok... I tried the change in the panel type and it seems to work beautifully... actually changed from 1 to 2, as the default in the file is 1, thank you for that.
My next question is about functionality of the different builds. I like the ION build obviously for the speed of the build (very fast compared to other builds) but there is one function in the hero build that I miss most... the exchange functionality. Hero has an exchange client built in, and I was wondering if there is something for ION that does the same, or can be added via Market or something. The exchange feature is the only thing that keeps me from using the ION build full time.
Let me know if there is something I need to do to get it, or if I just have to live with the speed loss in Hero. Unless partitioning the SD Card offers that much more speed that I could usably have Hero as the facto OS of choice. What has been your experience?
Tutungzone said:
Ok... I tried the change in the panel type and it seems to work beautifully... actually changed from 1 to 2, as the default in the file is 1, thank you for that.
My next question is about functionality of the different builds. I like the ION build obviously for the speed of the build (very fast compared to other builds) but there is one function in the hero build that I miss most... the exchange functionality. Hero has an exchange client built in, and I was wondering if there is something for ION that does the same, or can be added via Market or something. The exchange feature is the only thing that keeps me from using the ION build full time.
Let me know if there is something I need to do to get it, or if I just have to live with the speed loss in Hero. Unless partitioning the SD Card offers that much more speed that I could usably have Hero as the facto OS of choice. What has been your experience?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im pretty sure the Market has an exchange client.
Ive never really used exchange, and Im stil unsure of what it does. I havent needed it until now, so im pretty sure I wont need it for a while.
And the slowness of Hero is mistly due to the UI's (blurry, moto, etc) while ION has the default UI, which makes it snappier.
My SD idea was based on the fact that I thought it ran of the SD card, but I forgot that the OS lives inside of data.img so Part-ing wouldnt have any effect.
Check out the Market, they have some pretty nice apps, and like 90% of them are free. (the first thing i did was install the weather app and added it under my clock )
Any of you get the issue where it says Incorrect pin code even if you enter the right one ?
Edit: Fixed it by removing pin code
Seems pretty cool sofar
Just a reminder for Noobs...
Remember that Android is in Development, as the porting of the OS still has issues.
Also... before anyone asks, when you first start using Android, or start it up... make a call to set the correct call settings. If you do not you may have some issues with incoming calls... just an FYI.
Tutungzone said:
Ok... I tried the change in the panel type and it seems to work beautifully... actually changed from 1 to 2, as the default in the file is 1, thank you for that.
My next question is about functionality of the different builds. I like the ION build obviously for the speed of the build (very fast compared to other builds) but there is one function in the hero build that I miss most... the exchange functionality. Hero has an exchange client built in, and I was wondering if there is something for ION that does the same, or can be added via Market or something. The exchange feature is the only thing that keeps me from using the ION build full time.
Let me know if there is something I need to do to get it, or if I just have to live with the speed loss in Hero. Unless partitioning the SD Card offers that much more speed that I could usably have Hero as the facto OS of choice. What has been your experience?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can also up the resolution to make the grainy part go away (previous question), I use
Code:
middi.width=320 middi.height=480 lcd.density=160
This will also make the menus fit the screen better.
I saw a post saying that you can rip the exchange part out of the rogers and hero builds, but have yet figured out how to really do that. If I do, I'll post how to. If sopmeone else figures it out, please let me know.
As for the market program, it costs; since it is free on Hero and rogers I agree that it would be nice to have as a cab.
MediaFire mirror uploaded
Thanks a lot tyeo098 for your iniciative
UrbanRider said:
Thanks a lot tyeo098 for your iniciative
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Buy me a beer? [SIG]
wifi issues
Having some issue with wifi (as with the latest builds). It connects but most of the time I can't browse. Sometimes I am able to browse the internet but I have to be persistent coz most of the time I can't. Google maps uploads maps and then says it lost data connection, retrying. I have an Open network. Had to go back to 9/13 build by scarlet-arrow (I think). Any help would be appreciated.
clemsyn said:
Having some issue with wifi (as with the latest builds). It connects but most of the time I can't browse. Sometimes I am able to browse the internet but I have to be persistent coz most of the time I can't. Google maps uploads maps and then says it lost data connection, retrying. I have an Open network. Had to go back to 9/13 build by scarlet-arrow (I think). Any help would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're not using one of my builds, please post in a different thread.
Im trying to keep this thread on topic. I think in the official thread there are like 20 pages about cats because someone went and posted:
This thread is now about cats.
Related
This thread is for development related to the Google Android OS running on the CDMA version of the Touch Pro 2.
Special Thanks to all of the GSM developers for taking care of the hard stuff
Last Update Date: 2/27/2010 11:45 PM EST
Current Download Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T0RSJ0AW
For those who still can't get wifi to load with the most recent upload please try the 2 suggestions below:
-Ensure wifi is started in WM prior to initiating haret
-Turn off security on your wireless connection
Instructions:
1) Delete existing android files (ensure data.img is deleted)
2) Extract files from zip onto root of SD card
Use this at your own risk. I doubt any harm will come to you or your phone, but if you get hit by a bus while loading android don't blame me.
Please see post #2 for zImage Downloads, FAQ, Detailed Status and Change Log
Detailed Status and Change Log
Upcoming Changes:
-CDMA Data
-SMS
-Speaker w/o calling prior to loading Haret
Change Log:
2/27/2010 11:45 PM EST
Issues with previous upload. Please try new link.
2/27/2010 10:00 PM EST
-autobuild zImage and my modified rootfs to use CDMA radio
-WIFI thanks to MrPippy
2/27/2010 2:22 PM EST
-Many many new enhancements from the current repository. Still no wifi, data or BT, but some great UI and other hardware updates. Special thanks to phhusson, mrpippy and the rest of the GSM guys for their constant changes!
1/25/2010 1:10 AM EST
-Mic is now functional in calls w/o having to initiate a call in WM
-Power management is now active, screen will turn black
-Keypad response on dial pad has been greatly improved
-Phone can now be fully powered off by holding end key and selecting "Power off"
Please use full download link in post #1
1/12/2010 11:24 PM EST - Updated Keymapping
Working
CDMA Radio - Ability to make and receive calls
Mic
Keyboard
Key Mapping
Power Management
Screen Rotation
WIFI
Not working:
CDMA Data
Speaker
GPS
Camera
Bluetooth
Much Much more...
Notes:
-In order to fully utilize mic / speaker you must place a call in WM prior to loading haret. Easiest method is to call your VM then while connected load haret. If you do not place a call prior to loading haret only your mic will function.
-If you have trouble registering onto your network follow the instructions below:
Go to Settings
Select "Wireless & networks"
Select "Mobile Networks"
Select "Network operators"
(Let the phone search)
Select "Select automatically"
You should now receive a message stating that you have been "Registered on Network"
If this does not work the first time, try it again.
For anyone who is interested in setting up their own dev environment follow my guide below.
Even if you don't have any programming expeierce you may have fun exploring the inner workings of Android.
Quick and Dirty Install Guide to setting up local dev environment by 95-Civic:
1) If you don't already have a linux box setup I would suggest downloading VM ware and finding a free image of Ubuntu.
2) From there head over to
http://source.android.com/download which should walk you through the installation of all packages required to retrieve and compile the source code.
3) It will take several hours to pull in the entire repository. Once download you do not need to compile the android code in order in order to build the kernel, we will use the prebuilt directory
4) Once you have copied the repository you will want to get a copy of linux-on-qualcomm. cd into the android source directory
5) type:
git clone git://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm.git
this process may take several hours depending on your internet connection speed
6) Copy the prebuilt directory from the android source over into the new directory created by the command above (linux-msm)
cp -r prebuilt ./linux-msm
7) CD into the linux-msm directory
8 ) Run the following command
make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.3.1/bin/arm-eabi- htc_msm_android_defconfig
9) If no errors are listed you will receive the following message: "configuration written to .config". Continue to step 10
10) Run
make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.3.1/bin/arm-eabi- zImage
11) When complete (if compiled successfully) you will now brand new zImage located in ./arch/arm/boot/zImage
As long as you use the rootfs.img and system.sqsh that I provided in the zip file you should have access to the CDMA radio to make and receive calls. In some cases you will not have access to the radio depending on the default configurations in the htc_msm_android_defconfig file.
Custom config is attached. You will need to unzip and copy the attached file into the linux-msm/arch/arm/configs directory. When running step 8 replace htc_msm_android_defconfig with htc_tp2_cdma_defconfig
This will not have any of the changes, additions, and tweaks I've made to the linux-msm source. However it should give you a fresh bootable image and a great place to start. I would like to create a gitorious clone in the near future but right now any free time is better spent on data.
Happy coding and please feel free to PM with any questions.
Just wanted to thank you for your effort, this is very exciting! Are you planning on following this all the way through until everything is functional and it can flashed on to the phone?
95-civic said:
Working
CDMA Radio - Ability to make and receive calls
Keyboard
Key Mapping
Not working
Just about everything else
Wifi
CDMA Data
Mapping of the End key (I'll post an updated image tomorrow with the correct mapping. Easy fix)
Speaker and Mic (unless you make a call from WM prior to loading Haret)
GPS
Camera
Bluetooth
Many more...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a GSM phone I see your working on the end key mapping for cdma.
I did ask in the bounty thread about learning how to map and fix end key for tilt 2 gsm your compiled zimage wont work for my gsm phone with the fix will it?
Looking forward to testing your work Civic, great job so far and looking forward to future updates.
Craig
Greatness
Way to go Civic, this is extremely exciting. I have been quite envious of the RAPH800 Android functionality (turned my RAPH800 into insurance for the RHOD400).
I have you bookmarked, will continue to test updated builds and report back.
On this one, nothing new to report on errors - no data, but I did connect to sprint network. I had called my VM before booting, but I had no mic or speaker, will try again.
Thanks and great job!
Great Job
Hi Civic,
I just wanted to thank you for your work, flashed the rom last night, this is the best build thus far.
I did try out your version of XDAndroid and it seems a bit more sluggish/buggy than ones I have used out of the Topaz/TD2 thread.
CDMA radio works for me in both versions.
Obviously No Data or SMS.
One good way to speed up the install on the slower SD cards is to put the card in a memory card reader on a PC and run windows defragmenter on the card.
This is after you have booted into android the first time so you have the 256MB data.img already generated. I personally noticed a speed/fluidity improvement on my 8gb Class 2 SD card (came with BB Storm), however your mileage may vary.
defragmenting works on regular HDD because if a file is spread across different sections of the disk, it takes time to move the head and read those parts of the disk.
defragmenting won't make any difference with solid state media because there are no moving parts and its access time is virtually 0. it doesn't matter if a block of a file is on sector 0 or on sector 308563434, solid state drives access them all with exactly the same speed.
defragmenting on solid state media is a snake oil recipe.
torn8o said:
I have a GSM phone I see your working on the end key mapping for cdma.
I did ask in the bounty thread about learning how to map and fix end key for tilt 2 gsm your compiled zimage wont work for my gsm phone with the fix will it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Shakes head, you do realize why this thread was started. Not to work on GSM, but for CDMA version. There are a TON of GSM android threads right now, but no real CDMA thread.
And 95-civic... THANK YOU!!!
Thanks been waiting for this kind of thread.
I loved using Android on my XV6800 but once I switch to TP2 I lost access to the marketplace (still waiting to see if someone can get wifi working). So I cannot wait to try this for TP2!
Just out of curiosity, what is your end goal? A fully functional flushable android rom (which would be great) or a fully functional harret?
---and I am more that willing to donate some cash for the final result
klynch_gdd said:
Shakes head, you do realize why this thread was started. Not to work on GSM, but for CDMA version. There are a TON of GSM android threads right now, but no real CDMA thread.
And 95-civic... THANK YOU!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do realize this is a cdma thread you must have missed this statement
I did ask in the bounty thread about learning how to map and fix end key for tilt 2 gsm your compiled zimage wont work for my gsm phone with the fix will it?
I asked here because an option to help was offered in the prior posts in another thread.
Also, is it possible to get the gsensor working. I find pulling out the stylus to activate landscape to be somewhat annoying. Is that just a temporary thing, will we eventually get to use of the gsensor and the keyboard slide activating the landscape?
It's amazing how such great progress can be made and yet someone has to ask about the gsensor working. Baby steps man. Speakers and Mic are very important. Then data and SMS. Once the basic phone functions are there, I'm sure Civic or someone else will start attacking things like Gsensor. Sorry, not trying to be rude but focus on what's more important and don't worry about the smaller stuff. Kudos Civic. Well done.
On a side note, I also would like to know if you plan to take this all the way to the finished product with a flashable ROM. Either way, you can expect a donation in the next few weeks from me. (Christmas wiped me out!)
Thank you so much!! I love this phone, and I think android on it will blow the nexus one away. I cant stand on screen keyboards!! Keep up the good work and you will be getting my donations and many many thanks!!
new zImage Available
The most recent zImage can be found in post #2. Unzip the zImage to your SD root and over write existing file. Don't forget to delete the data.img file as well.
Not a huge change but I've fixed the key mapping. I've had less than an combined hour over the past 48 hours to get in front of my home computer due to long days at the office this week, next step is to tackle the speaker / mic issue.
Enjoy!
torn8o said:
I have a GSM phone I see your working on the end key mapping for cdma.
I did ask in the bounty thread about learning how to map and fix end key for tilt 2 gsm your compiled zimage wont work for my gsm phone with the fix will it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't own a GSM phone so I can't confirm. Try the most recent zImage in post #2, just remove the ".95-civic" from the end of the file and overwrite you existing zImage.
BTW the ".95-civic" will be removed in the next build. Obviously it's just a simple renaming of the file, but we'll call it .CDMATP2 or something along those lines.
drb115 said:
Just out of curiosity, what is your end goal? A fully functional flushable android rom (which would be great) or a fully functional harret?
---and I am more that willing to donate some cash for the final result
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would you like me to put a project charter together? lol... j/k
For now I will continue with Harret, but ultimately we all would love to have a flashable rom to utilize the phone's internal memory. Since just above every other htc phone is ahead of us with their android ports, I'm hoping someone figures this part out by the time we catch up!
drb115 said:
Also, is it possible to get the gsensor working. I find pulling out the stylus to activate landscape to be somewhat annoying. Is that just a temporary thing, will we eventually get to use of the gsensor and the keyboard slide activating the landscape?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As mentioned in another reply this is low priority on the list, however if you could get everyone else in the group to agree that this is more important that the speaker / mic I'll gladly do this for you.
First of all, it was very easy to get it working on Diamond. It is the fastest Android ever working on my Diamond. It version 1.6 ! But I think it's better because it is faster.
Still not working:
Camera
GPS ?
For a better Homescreen download PandaHome. With that tool you can download themes for Android and you can change the Lockscreen.
Also you can download OpenHome Lite, which runs much faster I experienced !
I think the battery is still a problem, because after a few ours it is empty if you are working much on your phone. Also Android says very early that your battery is empty.
The whole Android market should work!
If sound doesn't work on first boot, reboot! Then it should work.
1. Step:
Download Myn's Warm Donut for Vogue from here (The SQSH package)
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
Direct Download Link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?oitjoljxquj
Download the latest Zimage Kernel from here :
Without debugging (faster):
balsat.hopto.org/
Alternative, with debugging:
glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android
Download the latest RootFS from here:
http://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/
Download the latest Innitrd from here:
xdandroid.southcape.org/initramfs/
Download the Startup.txt from the Attachment!!!!
The "Startup battery fake.txt" disables the 15% battery message, because the phone now only shows "battery is loading"!
Install it like the normal startup.txt and rename it as "Startup.txt"!!
2. Step
Extract all packages!
3.Step
Open the Folder of Myn's Diamond Rom and delete the following things:
INITRD.GZ
Rootfs.image
zImage
DEFAULT.txt
DEFAULT 240x320.txt
4.Step
- Copy the file from the latest INITRD to Myn's Rom folder. Rename it to INITRD.GZ.
- Open the LatestLinux folder, your zImage Kernel, and extract the .tar file. Then copy both extracted files to the Rom folder
- Now copy the file from the rootfs folder to the rom and rename it as rootfs.img
- Now copy the Startup.txt from the attachment the Rom Folder
5.Step
Copy all files of the Rom folder to the fresh formated ! storage of your Diamond.
6.Step
Start Haret.exe on your Diamond
Then Android will boot!
is this booted via haret??
and didnt we get alreayd donut 1.6??
yes it is booted via Haret.
There are some 1.6, but not as stable and fast as this one.
mediafire link for sqsh is not working!
Thank you sooo much for this build...for putting it together!!
Any idea if we can use those awesome themes on that page?? n is the resolution 640x480??
I dont know why media fire doesn't work. Now the link is correct, maybe it is working tomorrow again..I'll see.
Today Screen:
I don't know how, but i am working on it. Installation with NoMoRootfs is not working for me, maybe someone can try it?
There you have to copy the theme "androidupdate.tar" into a folder name andboot, then start android while you put down the volume up button, maybe for Diamond the button is another one? I don't know.
Theres someting called "MetaMorph" which manages themes, but it was also not working for me.
The only way i know to change the themes is to use "PandaHome"
testing
im gonna test it now and report.
PS: you can use openhome too. its a really cool program for themes.
oke i tested it:
The build is superfast i must admit.
but u seriously must fix the battery problem.. is that so hard??
i was just on the browser for 15 minutes and from 92% it went to 69%.
if you can fix that problem i will be soooo happy and the android will be completed for me...
WELDONE!
Thank you.
it is not perfect but worse to try.
WELDONE my friend WELDONE!
yepp, the fastest android on our diamonds, with it's already well knows problems: no camera and gps. By the way: how do u set the operator (3g, edge) internet options? Caz i have internet in windows mobile, which is not the case when i boot into the android via haret. In the options i didn't find anything useful to set it. Anyone?
THX man this IS the most fast rom available and i like it... but when i try to sync my google account with WIFI (WPA or no security) it fails.... it says something about not a good connection or sim data..... i CAN go to browser and browse the web though ?!
I had the same problem . Try a restart of you WiFi . For me that was the solution.
Wow thats really nice...
Had anyone tried to use one of the newer Kernels from the glemson autobuild page here:
glemsom.anapnea.net/android/htc-msm-android
Don't really know whats the differences between the kernel site in the first post and this one except that there are newer ones!?
So i think this version is a good candidate to run as a normal OS on my Diamond.
Greetz
restart of the wifi, like turning it off and on again... that didnt work.
Still got the same error.... can't get an reliable connection... bla bla... someone...
Wifi is the only way for me to sync and i really like the build so far
hm. that sounds strange. For me sync worked after it. I think restarts etc..maybe work?
Kernel
The link you wrote is also right, but the kernel i linked to is without debugging and because of that it is said to be faster.
Maybe the kernel with debugging solves some problems? Maybe the sync problem? Anyone can try it?
hermanherz said:
hm. that sounds strange. For me sync worked after it. I think restarts etc..maybe work?
Kernel
The link you wrote is also right, but the kernel i linked to is without debugging and because of that it is said to be faster.
Maybe the kernel with debugging solves some problems? Maybe the sync problem? Anyone can try it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Had also no syncing probs...
Im trying the other Kernel right now...
Do you use Android for usual Day-Work? How long is your battery-life with normal use?
Anyone knows if theres a way to disable the annoying Battery Message with 15%? I think the indicator is not right and the bat can hold on longer...
Greetz
Okay tried it with the new Kernel. And your right. The one you mentioned in your first post is definitly faster and offers also less problems...
So my Android is running nice. Some minor improvements in Speed, the GPS-Module and more Battery life and i can wait another half year before buy a HTC Desire ;-)
How are the chances that GPS will work in next Kernel-Releases?
Ade
It's a nice built,and fast,but wi-fi doesn't work,and no home fullscreen,i will apreciate a little help from you,thanks!!!
liviu_007 said:
It's a nice built,and fast,but wi-fi doesn't work,and no home fullscreen,i will apreciate a little help from you,thanks!!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So whats your Diamond Type? Diam100, Diam300, Diam500
There are slightly differences in these types. Mine is a Diam300 and everything is working fine...
You can check this by pressing the Vol down - Button during boot, i think... (Not sure)
And also please explain your prob a little more. So what happens if you wanna activate your WLAN in the Settings?
Greetz
The battery problem of 15 % is solved with the new startup.txt i uploaded .
GPS:
I really dont know.
Due to a lot of newbie questions arising in the Kaiser forum lately, I've decided to open this topic. Maybe we can all contribute to it and also make it sticky. Hopefully it will prevent pollution of Kaiser Android forum with common newbie questions that were answered like 100 times already.
Here are some common questions I've seen lately, with answers. Suggestions and corrections are welcome. I invite all experienced Android users to contribute to this topic with their Q/A posts or maybe suggestions and corrections for my Q/A post.
Q: I'm trying to install Android, but don't know where to start and how to do it?
A: You have to options, SD install (keeps Windows Mobile on the device in case you change your mind about Android) or NAND install (it wipes your Windows Mobile of the device). Follow the guide for SD install here or the guide for NAND install here.
Q: Everybody is talking about DZO's repository for kernel (NBH/zImage) files. Where can I find it?
A: Here!
Q: Found the kernels but I'm confused now. Which kernel / panel should I choose for my Kaiser?
A: You will have to find out which panel type is your Kaiser using: 1, 2 or 3. If you pick wrong you will have errors on your screen. The best way to test is to start with an SD install, use zImage kernel and edit andboot/default.txt with the "board-htckaiser.panel_type" set to 1, 2 or 3, until you get the righ one for your Kaiser. User zenity wrote also about this here.
Q: I'm trying to do an SD install to ext2 partitions but don't know how to format SD card?
A: You will need an Ubuntu Live CD. Get it here. Then boot it and just follow this great video guide by user loserskater.
Q: I installed Android 2.1 (eclair), but camera and BT audio is not working. What am I doing wrong?
A: Camera and BT audio are currently not supported under Android 2.1 (eclair) on Kaiser devices. You could however use one of the older Android builds (Donut), like Myn's Warm Donut. Camera and BT audio are supported on most of the Donut builds, but keep in mind that quality is still not comparable to quality on Windows Mobile.
Q: How can I mount SD card through USB?
A: Here is the same problem with a solution.
Q: Which is the best Android build for Kaiser?
A: Hard question to answer. Actually there aren't many Kaiser dedicated builds. Luckily Vogue builds works on Kaiser, if you apply Wifi and BT updates (if they are available). You should probably try and decide by yourself. Keep in mind that older Donut 1.6 builds have camera and BT audio supported, while newer Eclair 2.1 builds have more functions and also better UI. Two very popular builds are Myn's Warm Donut and Incubus26Jc's Super Eclair 2.1.
Q: I installed Android but now everything is blurry.
A: It's due to wrong resolution. Kaiser phones have panel for 230x320 but you're probably using 320x480 build. Here is a post by user tatnai where he explains this situation for Vogue devices (it goes same for Kaiser).
Q: I have Android up and running. Now I need navigation software. Which one to use?
A: Well, iGo & iGo Amigo works on Android, so does Ndrive and Sygic. But you may bump into the resolution problem if you are using 230x320 and want to use iGo. Read this topic.
Q: My battery status is wrong. How can I fix this.
A: You need to "calibrate" the battery with your Android. Here is a guide made by user Millence.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I'd also invite all Android newbies to go through Android Vogue FAQ topic as mostly it's all valid for Kaiser devices as well.
BT Audio work in the old polymod build. Use delta or gamma+BTUpdate.
Sd Install guide.
I just checked out the SDcard link its outdated, doesn't reference androidinstall.tar. Having l33t xperts direct n00bs to easy sounding guides which result in failure is a huge pet peeve, so please stop if your not even going to test your own advice. Newb's, like myself?, are having issues because we are trying to use haret or otherwise we are trying things reported to work, yet seem to have never been tried in recent times. FYI: Haret method is broke. If you don't believe me disprove me, please disprove me. Start from scratch, reference http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680963. For now it seems that sdcard/nand not using haret is the only way to get a working droid w/ sound and everything. That guide is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680963, but I haven't gone that route as I like my winmo. The furthest I got with haret was booting droid w/o sound and no one has been able to offer any advice that i haven't already tried. I tried a bunch of different kernels, a few different radios. Please prove me wrong I think requiring users to nuke their winmo when android is still beta and lacking drivers is insane. (i.e. my winmo takes about 6hours to install and tweak everything and I use it regulary, why should i have to wipe it just so I can preview the development progress?)
thebulletfromhell said:
BT Audio work in the old polymod build. Use delta or gamma+BTUpdate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I almost forgot that BT audio works on polymod. Couldn't we just take the fix and apply it to other Eclair builds like Incubus26Jc's Super Eclair or mssmison's CM 5.0.7 test 3?
tyler51773 said:
Newb's, like myself?, are having issues because we are trying to use haret or otherwise we are trying things reported to work, yet seem to have never been tried in recent times. FYI: Haret method is broke. If you don't believe me disprove me, please disprove me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm Haret booting every day. It works. With sound. On some builds also with camera and BT. But you're right - the links are outdated, it's for the old SQSH method - sorry. Can't find any newer in-depth SD install guide (if somebody knows one please post a link) but here is a quick quide by user tatnai that works.
However I believe Android on Kaiser is still not ready for prime-time use. If you need a stable OS where everything works as it should, you should stick to WinMo at least for a while. You want to contrubute do developement? Welcome. If you have a problem / question? That's what forum is for and we will help you if we can.
I made this FAQ in a good faith to help users start - I had problems starting Android on HTC also when I first decided to do it. But I tried & tried, read the forum throughly and eventually I succeeded.
Android on Kaiser is still in developement and things change on a daily basis. Thta's why forum is for, so we can discuss that and help each other.
Versioning?
Maybe its cause I've used the newest sources or because my hardware is different, would be nice to know either way what it is that causes me not to have sound. I basically did follow that guys guide, but I'm still sol. Can you download the newest ones and give it a go? If it works then I'll follow your instructions, if not can you backtrack which sources you used so perhaps we can do a diff on it to see what needs to be done? Please check out the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680963 and post a solution if you can come up with one that produces an android w/ sound via haret, about 3-7 of us who have posted there would appreciate it, and god knows how many others who are keeping their mouth shut as well.
tyler51773 said:
Maybe its cause I've used the newest sources or because my hardware is different, would be nice to know either way what it is that causes me not to have sound. I basically did follow that guys guide, but I'm still sol. Can you download the newest ones and give it a go? If it works then I'll follow your instructions, if not can you backtrack which sources you used so perhaps we can do a diff on it to see what needs to be done? Please check out the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680963 and post a solution if you can come up with one that produces an android w/ sound via haret, about 3-7 of us who have posted there would appreciate it, and god knows how many others who are keeping their mouth shut as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let's try it like this.. Here is the link to copy of my andboot folder, with incubus26jc's & Vilords Tattoo Sense Android androidinstall.tar build for Vogue and Kaiser. This one is native 240x320 with working Wifi and Camera on Kaiser. Latest dzo's zImage is included. This one works for me superbly. Build still lacks support for BT but I think it will be solved soon.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/72524/andboot.7z
Download it and install it. Before installation change (in default.txt) panel setting "board-htckaiser.panel_type=3" to your panel type and also set "board-kaiser-battery.battery_capacity" parameter to 2000 if you're using 1350mAh stock Kaiser battery. Please report if your sound works with this configuration. Hope it helps.
Two things....one can we get a Tutorial for how to revert back to WM? Also can we get an admin to make this sticky!!??
toolfan2k4 said:
Two things....one can we get a Tutorial for how to revert back to WM? Also can we get an admin to make this sticky!!??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have flashed winmo ever before, you shouldnt have a problem. just boot into the bootloader and flash as usual.
i install system in NAND and data in ext2
but when i check in my sd (windows only can detect fat32 format),
data.img in my sd. it is normal?
You suppose to put data on sd card partition. Its kinda confusing.
thebulletfromhell said:
You suppose to put data on sd card partition. Its kinda confusing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i cant understand?
i wnt data in ext2. so android can run faster
but when i check my fat32 partition, data.img in this partition
should i put androidinstall.tar in my ext2 partition when i install??
Select Data On SD Card Partition. The Other Option Make Data.IMG(which is formatted in ext2)
thebulletfromhell said:
Select Data On SD Card Partition. The Other Option Make Data.IMG(which is formatted in ext2)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i cant choose NAND and SD partition...
only can choose NAND and ext2
Still no sound.
I get the same series of errors every time. (The slide that is most specifc to sound, i.e. ept error)
milanche said:
I'm Haret booting every day. It works. With sound. On some builds also with camera and BT. But you're right - the links are outdated, it's for the old SQSH method - sorry. Can't find any newer in-depth SD install guide (if somebody knows one please post a link) but here is a quick quide by user tatnai that works.
However I believe Android on Kaiser is still not ready for prime-time use. If you need a stable OS where everything works as it should, you should stick to WinMo at least for a while. You want to contrubute do developement? Welcome. If you have a problem / question? That's what forum is for and we will help you if we can.
I made this FAQ in a good faith to help users start - I had problems starting Android on HTC also when I first decided to do it. But I tried & tried, read the forum throughly and eventually I succeeded.
Android on Kaiser is still in developement and things change on a daily basis. Thta's why forum is for, so we can discuss that and help each other.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey milanche, thanks a million for making this FAQ. It has been very helpful for me. I am LOVING android on my Kaiser! I got a sweet sweet taste of it when using my friend's X10 and was HOOKED. Now, I'm HOOKED UP!!!
deezy7?
Deezy, are you using haret? Did you get sound off the bat?
The 'local ept for program xxxxx' error is normal, as are the first ones about tty and job control, I see these 'errors' every time I boot, and it seems to have no effect, the rpc ones i get sometimes, usually followed by a load of FC's once android starts, the init sys_prop ones I have seen before also, with the same results.
Basically once this happens I have to pull the battery and reboot, which usually fixes things, in my case that is.
However I'm beginning to wonder if there is something more serious going on with your device, having followed your trials it seems that no matter what you try you are dogged by bad luck, I'm sure it's not you, or that you are making mistakes, simply that, for whatever reason, android hates your Kaiser.
Sorry I can't be of more help, this one simply baffles me.
@tyler51773
Did you try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6570064&postcount=7
And what were the results?
what option i have to take if want install system in NAND and data in ext2??
because when i choose system on NAND and data on ext2, my data.img will go to my SD
Known Filemanager.
Most popular is sTune.
PSAS 1.5 with TFS Browser (Samsung Modem)
PSAS can create folder.
BUT folder can't be delete.
Write protected. So maybe this is 1 reason why not possible in sTune...
TkFileExplorer_2.2.exe
Seems Original leaked Samsung stuff, but extreme old... 2001 or something.
Not really tested yet by me.
Maybe someone saw newer Version TkFileExplorer?
PSAS will soon offer few more features.
In PSAS 1.5 SD card is included, so not use Backup to Zip...
Best Regards
P.S.:
One dream is an Filemanager bada App on handset.
But at the moment it seems many restrictions, so no access to internal FS from handset...
gr8 information buddy
stune hangs a lot
still searching for the best file manager!
it wud be really helpful if u cud provide the download links..............for all these managers
THAKUR90
see section bada utilities u will get all these
sTune I used many times without problems.
PSAS 1.5 has few problems at the moment.
BUT will fix soon in new Version.
http://psas.revskills.de/
- Backup FS to Zip not work correctly
But you can create folders.
TkFileExplorer is attached. But not tested by me... maybe tooooo old.
Maybe someone could upload newer or complete TKTool.
Best Regards
adfree said:
Known Filemanager.
Most popular is sTune.
PSAS 1.5 with TFS Browser (Samsung Modem)
PSAS can create folder.
BUT folder can't be delete.
Write protected. So maybe this is 1 reason why not possible in sTune...
TkFileExplorer_2.2.exe
Seems Original leaked Samsung stuff, but extreme old... 2001 or something.
Not really tested yet by me.
Maybe someone saw newer Version TkFileExplorer?
PSAS will soon offer few more features.
In PSAS 1.5 SD card is included, so not use Backup to Zip...
Best Regards
P.S.:
One dream is an Filemanager bada App on handset.
But at the moment it seems many restrictions, so no access to internal FS from handset...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HI.
You can use mini commander on the phone to access all the internal files of the phone. its a java version..
mini commander sounds interessting.
Thanx for hint.
I will download and try and post later result.
Best Regards
Edit.
Now tested, seems nice. But not what I thought...
Anyway. Thanx.
Try MyExplorer. Its a native Bada app.
Today I tried MyExplorer.
http://www.samsungapps.com/topApps/topAppsDetail.as?productId=G00000248525
Also not exactly what I wish... But you have access to hidden folder on Memory Card.
[email protected]@[email protected]@__
Best Regards
I'm working on a FileExplorer for Samsung Wave, you can read about it in the other bada section (which i'm not allowed to post in):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958457
I had a good play with TkFileExplorer. It should be able to connect with the Wave, but I was not able to make a connection stick.
TkFileExplorer isn't very friendly in terms of how to set it up, but I was able to get it to at least try and connect to the phone. However it times out afterwhile, and you see there's a new drive letter P:. But it disappears from TkFileExplorer as soon as you click ok on the error message screen.
I tried connecting it in Kies mode and also usb debugging mode. Still not sure which one it's supposed to be set to. But I did find some posts for older Samsung phones where they connected in PC Studio mode.
I'm going to try again on another computer as I think the usb drivers and such might be conflicting.
It might help to know what the COM settings are that WaveBackup and sTune use to connect to the phone. I've been leaving all the settings at default but there might be some trickery that needs to occur.
About incoming WaveBackup Tool.
More and more progress, see Screenshot of Version 1.0.7
Fell free to test self. Here are the infos:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958457
@ mortara
Thank you very much for developing hard.
@ KrazyKong
Thank you very much for testing and reporting.
@ all
Please help to improve stability. Test and report will help to make Wavebackup more stable.
Thanx.
Sorry for resized Screenshot. Limit seems 640 x 480... so look into attached
WaveBackup107.rar for full 1920 x 200 Pixel.
Best Regards
Hello,
Version 1.0.7 of WaveBackup can now be obtained by everyone from my homepage.
No registrattion the forum needed anymore.
Patrick
mortara said:
Hello,
Version 1.0.7 of WaveBackup can now be obtained by everyone from my homepage.
No registrattion the forum needed anymore.
Patrick
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks
i'll try it right now
mortara said:
Hello,
Version 1.0.7 of WaveBackup can now be obtained by everyone from my homepage.
No registrattion the forum needed anymore.
Patrick
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks man! you save me!
You're welcome! I just uploaded Version 1.0.10 to my homepage. It has an option to add files and folders to a 'blacklist' so that they won't be copied in file explorer operations anymore.
... Mortara hello I've been on your forum and I downloaded the application ... Unfortunately, the release is 1.0.9 ... where that next ... thanks by psycoy
Oh, sorry, you're right. Something must have gone wrong with the upload. I've fixed that now, so just download it again from my homepage (can't put external links here yet).
Version 1.0.12 of WaveBackup is up since a few days. I have done some smaller changes to stop annyoing owners of Wave II and 723 with that long error-message when connecting. Another change is that sizes of folders will be displayed now in explorer view, when the complete folder tree has been fetched. I've also fixed a few bugs.
Oh, and last but not least: Files can be copied now to the phone in explorer view (but still restricted to some special folders (<Appid>/Data for example)
I still can't post in the other bada board here, where the 'real' WaveBackup Thread can be found, so i hope everyone there sees this too!
@ All
I found a "new" version of TkFileExplorer - 2.4, it works fine with my Wave. TkFileExplorer is able to delete or rename folders and it is more stable than sTune.
06/16/2011
The screenshots are not important. This is not a theme!
You can install a theme from here, for example if you like.
The theme it comes with is the:
Go Louncher Classical Theme (The new version of it)
The software installed is also not important, because you can remove it.
Google Market is installed, and you can install what ever you like, just like on your computer.
https://market.android.com
This is the actual Android Froyo operating system for the HTC Kaiser
So, stop asking me for screenshots and software installed, it's not relevant.
And the how to install guide is been posted here
Bug reports are welcome, other then that, I don't wont to hear from you.
Don't post a thank you either, there is a bottom for that, and you can also vote on the poll up there, but install and test it first!
Again Bug reports only, please!
I been working on this for 3 days straight, and figure I'll share what I got.
Everything seems to be working, except the camera is blurry, but that seams to be the norm.
Included is the rom, radio and kernel
ROM: 2.2.1
Kernel: 2.6.25
Radio: KAISER 1.70.19.09
Panel: 2
Key Map: US Normal
Resolution: 240x320
Storage: Nand & Nand
Most everything is installed in userspace and can be uninstalled or upgraded.
Oh got GO Launcher EX installed (Also in user space)
Credits:
I stole ideas from, and used following tools:
Makers of atools
Makers of NBH creator
HTC Flasher
kallt_kaffe
Krazy-Killa
dzo (dzo's posts wore a big help. just wish he would answer his own questions after he found the solution)
n2rjt
and many more.
@todo
Resize NAND partitions to the smaller system size
Original post and download Links are posted on my blog:
http://press.pzzazz.net
Can you write something more about this? Is this your system and kernel(compiled yourself)? Any changes?
MaRekRM said:
Can you write something more about this? Is this your system and kernel(compiled yourself)? Any changes?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah witch apps are include. Some yours tweaks or etc... ???
MaRekRM said:
Can you write something more about this? Is this your system and kernel(compiled yourself)? Any changes?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That sounds like a trick question.
Yes, at first I compiled everything my self but then to resolve bugs, I looked at other systems and basically stole stuff from them to fix my bugs. In other words, I can't take all the credit, it was a community effort.
Neo2SHYAlien said:
Yeah witch apps are include. Some yours tweaks or etc... ???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I removed most everything from the system and installed it in user space. So the system is very lean. You can uninstall what you don't like.
how is the rom？just waiting to see
gruessle ...!! thanks for your efforts in getting this done... I been looking from long time to install Android on my HTC TyTN II. However i was not able to get the proper build...
can you share the screenshots of the build which you provided as well some steps at high level on installing this..
Thanks in advance.
Please, I don't really understand how to go upgrade this. I find it hard to do. Is everything needed packaged in this download, or please can u list things needed to change to android. I'll appreciate your response.
tundelogic said:
Please, I don't really understand how to go upgrade this. I find it hard to do. Is everything needed packaged in this download, or please can u list things needed to change to android. I'll appreciate your response.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
here is the howto
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
kkp said:
gruessle ...!! thanks for your efforts in getting this done... I been looking from long time to install Android on my HTC TyTN II. However i was not able to get the proper build...
can you share the screenshots of the build which you provided as well some steps at high level on installing this..
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The screenshots are not important.
This is not a theme.
You can install a theme from here, for example if you like:
http://golauncher.goforandroid.com/category/themes/
The theme it comes with is the:
Go Louncher Classical Theme (The new version of it)
The software installed is also not important, because you can remove it.
Google Market is installed, and you can install what ever you like, just like on your computer.
https://market.android.com/
This is the actual android froyo operating system.
Anyone else having trouble getting the kernel to install?
I get to 33% and the phone reboots...
Radio installed fine even though I was already using 1.70.19.09, just to be sure I installed everything in the package.
Installed HardSPL 3.34 and a WinMo 6.1 rom (custom) to see whats wrong. Installed L1q1d's kernel and goes right in like it should.
Checked .NBH with NBHCreator and only found 1 thing wrong: kernel set to Eclair instead of Froyo. Changed to Froyo and saved, attempted reflash and still won't go in...
;(Losted);
I also tried to install this kernel but I can't. Flashing in hardspl after few second give folowing error:
00018003
Os Fail
Update Terminate
UPDATE Fail.
Changing parameters in atools not helping. Every another kernel is flashing without problems so it's not phone fault
Gruessle, thanks for your efforts! I want to try your rom but being a noob waiting for more comprehensive list of known errors before flashing it to my kaiser.
Ok, quick "bug report":
After working with the kernel pack multiple times I have come to the conclusion that there might be a bug in the actual kernel file itself, throwing a code back to HardSPL and RUU (how I install).
I first noticed a problem in that the kernel was originally set up for a Polaris and had no resolution set. The size of the file should be unimportant as Scoot's newer kernel is in the order of 3.2-3.3MB in size (with the RIL patch installed it gets even larger), this one is 3,099KB, and l1q1d's is almost always 3,092KB.
The second issue I noticed is with the Froyo package itself... It's split up into many files (open the package in 7zip and you'll see what I mean). Normally, the packer has the files all listed inside the .tgz file, this one has the files inside many other files.
I have thus not installed the system on either phone because (correct me if I'm wrong), the kernel contains the basic directories for where everything is installed, and if I were to try and install this package on say, l1q1d's kernel, the phone would most likely crash because the files would not be found, including /system.
If ANYONE wants to dig deeper into this problem, feel free to message me. Personally, I think we've about finished getting all we can from the Kaiser, and much respect goes out to those who have done all the work in the past, but there's always that glimmer of hope that someone will find a way to pack this into a working rom installable through RUU or HardSPL.
I have one last thing to say:
Gruessle, please do your homework BEFORE posting things like this. There are people out there who still depend on this phone to operate as it is their only phone. I Personally cannot afford to go spend $100-200 on a replacement phone if this one goes down (thats why I have 2 of them). If you post something that does not work on the platform that you say it will, please correct it or move it to the proper forum.
BTW, I call shenannegans on one of the 5-star votes... just sayin'.
Your kernel have fake ;/ . rom works great ;D
sorry for bad english;p
PoXFreak said:
Ok, quick "bug report":
After working with the kernel pack multiple times I have come to the conclusion that there might be a bug in the actual kernel file itself, throwing a code back to HardSPL and RUU (how I install).
I first noticed a problem in that the kernel was originally set up for a Polaris and had no resolution set. The size of the file should be unimportant as Scoot's newer kernel is in the order of 3.2-3.3MB in size (with the RIL patch installed it gets even larger), this one is 3,099KB, and l1q1d's is almost always 3,092KB.
The second issue I noticed is with the Froyo package itself... It's split up into many files (open the package in 7zip and you'll see what I mean). Normally, the packer has the files all listed inside the .tgz file, this one has the files inside many other files.
I have thus not installed the system on either phone because (correct me if I'm wrong), the kernel contains the basic directories for where everything is installed, and if I were to try and install this package on say, l1q1d's kernel, the phone would most likely crash because the files would not be found, including /system.
If ANYONE wants to dig deeper into this problem, feel free to message me. Personally, I think we've about finished getting all we can from the Kaiser, and much respect goes out to those who have done all the work in the past, but there's always that glimmer of hope that someone will find a way to pack this into a working rom installable through RUU or HardSPL.
I have one last thing to say:
Gruessle, please do your homework BEFORE posting things like this. There are people out there who still depend on this phone to operate as it is their only phone. I Personally cannot afford to go spend $100-200 on a replacement phone if this one goes down (thats why I have 2 of them). If you post something that does not work on the platform that you say it will, please correct it or move it to the proper forum.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) The kernel doesn't care where you place the files. Right now I use a debian system with Ferora and Gentoo in a chroot. Both work fine with the Debian kernel.
In other words, if you have a kernel that works for you then use that it should work with the rest of the installation.
2) I don't get what you mean with files are "split up into many files", I am just guessing but you must be extracting it wrong. Maybe it's a windows thing, I haven't used windows in 15 years so I wouldn't be able to help you with that.
3) I have included everything you need to duplicate what I got, which works for me, and it appears to work for others too. Now i don't use that phone much, and there might be bugs I am unaware of, but don't tell me it doesn't work at all, just because you can't get it to work.
barmalini said:
Gruessle, thanks for your efforts! I want to try your rom but being a noob waiting for more comprehensive list of known errors before flashing it to my kaiser.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
barmalini, it appears that a few people have trouble installing the Kernel, but the ROM seams to work for everybody as far as I can tell.
According to my server records the files have been downloaded over 200 times and I have yet to hear a complain about the ROM.
So I would say try to install the Kernel, but if you can't still use the ROM with a Kernel that works for you.
If you have trouble installing from windows you can also try a live CD from debian or knoppix. I installed everything from a Debian system. (Knoppix is based on Debian)
If you don't know what a live CD is then go here for info:
http://wiki.debian.org/LiveCD
PoXFreak said:
Installed HardSPL 3.34 and a WinMo 6.1 rom (custom) to see whats wrong. Installed L1q1d's kernel and goes right in like it should.
Checked .NBH with NBHCreator and only found 1 thing wrong: kernel set to Eclair instead of Froyo. Changed to Froyo and saved, attempted reflash and still won't go in...
;(Losted);
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
PoXFreak,
you are not the only one having trouble, installing the ROM it appears.
I am wondering, are you also using Microsoft Windows to install the ROM?
If so can you try again with Linux, because it worked fine for me.
If you don't have Linux you can use a Live CD
Also if you can't get it to work, try the ROM with a Kernel that works for you.
Please report, I will check back.