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I just hate TouchFlo3D! Want TouchFlo2D.

yeah, i made it. nearly a year with my hermes, flashed over 300 times, now he rests in peace in my top drawer - some day we'll meet again...
got my lovely blackstone. for free on a £35/mo contract on Orange through Phones4U web site. kinda funny for me being an ex-carphone warehouse employee :•))
anyhow... what's wrong with this TouchFlo3D thing? it's just damn vile! i totally hate it, really, really. i wonder if i had never seen touchflo2d (manilla2d) i would like it. i was using a rom on my hermes with touchflo2d and the scroll of tabs in it is just sooo much smoother than in the HD! i put them side by side and the difference is impressive, even my partner agrees.
the favourite people screen is really cute but it's so not practical. i thought i was gonna have my mates' big faces showing on the screen but all i have is something that stretches up their photos which looks terrible and doesn't feel that i'm almost skinless of trying to flick to the next contact.
any suggestions?

SlakerBoi said:
yeah, i made it. nearly a year with my hermes, flashed over 300 times, now he rests in peace in my top drawer - some day we'll meet again...
got my lovely blackstone. for free on a £35/mo contract on Orange through Phones4U web site. kinda funny for me being an ex-carphone warehouse employee :•))
anyhow... what's wrong with this TouchFlo3D thing? it's just damn vile! i totally hate it, really, really. i wonder if i had never seen touchflo2d (manilla2d) i would like it. i was using a rom on my hermes with touchflo2d and the scroll of tabs in it is just sooo much smoother than in the HD! i put them side by side and the difference is impressive, even my partner agrees.
the favourite people screen is really cute but it's so not practical. i thought i was gonna have my mates' big faces showing on the screen but all i have is something that stretches up their photos which looks terrible and doesn't feel that i'm almost skinless of trying to flick to the next contact.
any suggestions?
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have you flashed any of the current cooked roms? I am using Dutty's and it speeds everything up and my favorite people tab photos are crisp. I personally never owned a device with 2d though

SlakerBoi said:
the favourite people screen is really cute but it's so not practical. i thought i was gonna have my mates' big faces showing on the screen but all i have is something that stretches up their photos which looks terrible
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press the right soft key and assign a decent quality photo on the photo contacts screen rather than the really small lo-res ones from outlook.

fards said:
press the right soft key and assign a decent quality photo on the photo contacts screen rather than the really small lo-res ones from outlook.
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yeah, i did that... but still dont like the pictures moving. on the 2D you had their faces right there, it was just thumb a name to call them. it would be great to have something similar to 3D with its resolution it'd be possible to put more contacts together...
but i'll have a go on one of these cooked rooms. kinda worried about that, to be honest. lol

nope! still the very same thing.
flashed the phamquang one which is promised to be stable and fast but to be honest i found it exactly the same as the previous rom. there must be some option...

Pentile for the anally observant / S-LCD

Hi, I really want to buy a Desire but when I tried it in a store I could easily notice the fuziness caused by the Pentile subpixel layout. This was on white text on a medium coloured background - I've read it's worst on black/white. I also looked at the Galaxy S and the fuzziness was much less noticable - I just hate the look and feel of that phone.
The problem is I have a pretty low tolerance to small details like that and pretty good eyesight, so I was wondering if anyone here is as anal about visual flaws as me but happily lives with the Desire's screen? I want my next phone purchace to last a couple of years at least...
I also thought it might be nice to wait and see if HTC release a Desire with a S-LCD screen - sharpness wins over deep blacks for me considering the other potential flaws with the AMOLED screens. Any thoughts?
(If the Wildfire had either an AMOLED RGB screen or a higher resolution LCD then I'd just settle for that - it looks sexy enough to live with the lack of power.)

any thoughts? eh, sure. I don't see the the "potential flaws" of AMOLED screens at all. Sure a true LCD display will have sharper definition for black on white text, but I hardly would clal my Desire screen blurred or fuzzy. I think its fine. I do a lot of reading on the net too and its absolutely fine, but you are right an LCD like iPhone is sharper for text.
I prefer the colours and the perfect blacks myself. Makes using the phone for watching movies etc a pleasure. If you use it just for very small text though, get something else. If your as picky as you seem, you will definitely have problems with this one with its amoled screen. I won't even mention the over saturated colours or the pink hue when viewing grays. You won't like that either.

i compared the screen on my desire to my friends new iphone 4 and honestly i could only tell the difference when i got so close it was physically hurting my eyes to focus on it, i really think that the screen on the desire is top and i dont seem to have much trouble with it in the daylight either for some reason

By potential flaws I meant the uneven & relatively fast fading and the burn in that some people are reporting.
I looked for the pink hue in the shop but couldn't notice it. Isn't that a hit or miss thing?
OLED is a major selling point for me. But then is resolution (<3 my x50v)
Anyone think the Desire with an S-LCD would be a big improvement?
Yeah, daylight didn't seem to be an issue at all, compared to other devices I've used over the years.
I definitely see a huge difference between Desire and iPhone 4 though. Desire is actually about on par with the previous iPhones in terms of actual blurryness, but the fact the pattern is staggered makes it more noticeable.

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I looked for the pink hue in the shop but couldn't notice it. Isn't that a hit or miss thing?
Anyone think the Desire with an S-LCD would be a big improvement?
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No the pink hue effects all AMOLED screens when displaying certain gray shades. I suggest you read the sticky post all about the AMOLED Pentile display and how it works.
Is the Desire available with S-LCD? If not, whats the point? Just get yourself a phone with LCD and be happy. The power drain on a desire with LCD would be significantly increased too. Sure AMOLED uses more on a 100% white screen, but it use much less on darker themed screens or coloured screens.

I've read the sticky and think I have a good grasp of the issue, but I've seen reports from people saying the pinkness varies.

I also have 20/20 vision and this screen is fine, the only times I'm disappointed is while text is scrolling there is a visable wave in the letters and outdoor in direct sunlight you need to find the good angle to read.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I used to be very anal about my phone. And of course you might be different but for me trying to choose the perfect one / making the perfect one ever more perfect just does not work. Huge effort, lots of frustration, little or no results and even the ones you get are brief. That's the problem with this attitude - you'll just always find another flaw to frown upon.
What worked for me was taking positive action rather than getting rid of all the faults. I implemented Allen's GTD system and I'm using my phone as a collection/organisation tool. Works great and now my phone is a very useful tool instead of being just a gadget. Flaws don't matter anymore. And with GTD I can be as anal as I only wish and still happy
BTW totally agree on Galaxy S. It's so much better phone than Desire but it's simply atrocious. Couldn't bear the thought of carrying something that makes me wanna puke for next 2/3 years.

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No the pink hue effects all AMOLED screens when displaying certain gray shades. I suggest you read the sticky post all about the AMOLED Pentile display and how it works.
Is the Desire available with S-LCD? If not, whats the point? Just get yourself a phone with LCD and be happy. The power drain on a desire with LCD would be significantly increased too. Sure AMOLED uses more on a 100% white screen, but it use much less on darker themed screens or coloured screens.
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Pink hue is not AMOLED related since it shows also in software emulator (on PC) and varies among phones. Sticky post is wrong all around but arguments for that are buried too deep in long thread.
AS for OP, HTC announced LCD Desire, and I would like to see one. I can notice PenTile artifacts and don't like it (together with over saturated colors and pink hue), but phone is so good in other segments it is worth owning.

Lots of anal talk in this thread!
Seriously, I have never seen the pink everyone is talking about and I have had my phone since the middle of april. It's weird that some phones are affected and some are not.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Yeah sure the screen has some negatives about it but when compared side to side to my old iPhone's screen its blows the iPhone out of the water. I prefer AMOLED because I can turn it up full brightness and not be blinded by an annoying backlight that make sthe phone more suitable as a flashlight than a screen.

I thought I replied earlier, but it seems Opera 10.60 is a little glitchy with the forum (and in general...)
Anyway, thanks for all the replies guys. On the way home I had a look at the Desire again in another store and found the screen a lot more agreeable. I tried it sitting down, making me naturally hold it a couple of inches farther away, which makes a big difference. Plus I had more of an "how nice is this display?" attitude rather than "can I notice the flaw?"
So I came home and ordered one online. If the text bugs me that much, I can always stick to my Axim for ebooks.
edit: Still eager to see what S-LCD brings to the table, though.

Apparently, S-LCD does not stand for 'Super LCD', it is just a name of Samsung-Sony LCD factory.

Schmeggma said:
I thought I replied earlier, but it seems Opera 10.60 is a little glitchy with the forum (and in general...)
Anyway, thanks for all the replies guys. On the way home I had a look at the Desire again in another store and found the screen a lot more agreeable. I tried it sitting down, making me naturally hold it a couple of inches farther away, which makes a big difference. Plus I had more of an "how nice is this display?" attitude rather than "can I notice the flaw?
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Did you know that PenTile OLED was in tens of thousands of cell phones for over a year before anyone noticed that they were different? If one has to be told that they are different... well that tells me that they work as designed.
Full Disclosure: I'm one of the inventors of PenTile technology.
PenTile technology was actually designed with a specific minimum distance from which to view it. Bring it too close to one's eyes, one will see the pattern. Actually the same thing also happens with the legacy RGB Stripe matrix, but since one is used to seeing that pattern, one mentally filters it out. The same should happen with the PenTile screen, once one is used to seeing it, one no longer "sees" it, if you can pardon my circular explanation, but it's true. If you use the phone at a more comfortable distance, as opposed to as close to your eyes as you can get, the screen will appear as intended.

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Apparently, S-LCD does not stand for 'Super LCD', it is just a name of Samsung-Sony LCD factory.
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That makes me happy, if it's just another IPS or whatever then I know what to expect.
DisplayGeek said:
Did you know that PenTile OLED was in tens of thousands of cell phones for over a year before anyone noticed that they were different? If one has to be told that they are different... well that tells me that they work as designed.
Full Disclosure: I'm one of the inventors of PenTile technology.
PenTile technology was actually designed with a specific minimum distance from which to view it. Bring it too close to one's eyes, one will see the pattern. Actually the same thing also happens with the legacy RGB Stripe matrix, but since one is used to seeing that pattern, one mentally filters it out. The same should happen with the PenTile screen, once one is used to seeing it, one no longer "sees" it, if you can pardon my circular explanation, but it's true. If you use the phone at a more comfortable distance, as opposed to as close to your eyes as you can get, the screen will appear as intended.
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I definitely would have noticed it if I didn't know in advance. (I'm not trying to imply there's anything good about extreme pickiness - it's a compulsive disorder and a bloody nightmare.)
I appreciate the minimum distance thing, but obviously it varies with eyesight - hence the brief controversy over Apple's 'retina' claims. It's just going to require a slight adjustment to my habits while standing to compensate for this.
As for the RGB thing, I feel that's easier to mentally filter out because it's consistent vertically whereas Pentile alternates the relatively larger red/blue subpixels. I imagine this is why the effect was less noticeable on the Galaxy S's RGBW layout, despite the slightly lower DPI?

markuz85 said:
Lots of anal talk in this thread!
Seriously, I have never een the pink everyone is talking about and I have had my phone since the middle of april. It's weird that some phones are affectewd and some are not.
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So your saying the new forum theme doesn't look pink to you on your phone? All the grey bits around the forum are definitely pink in colour on mine. Maybe i have one of the affected phones.

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Pink hue is not AMOLED related since it shows also in software emulator (on PC) and varies among phones.
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Well then it can be fixed with firmware right.
markuz85 said:
Lots of anal talk in this thread!
Seriously, I have never seen the pink everyone is talking about and I have had my phone since the middle of april. It's weird that some phones are affected and some are not.
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you have not noticed the pink? well then you are not anal enough. try harder
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Did you know that PenTile OLED was in tens of thousands of cell phones for over a year before anyone noticed that they were different?
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As above, I think this is subjective. Some people stare at their phones looking for dust, looking for a hint of pink, looking for a mark in the case, looking for... etc etc etc... If you want to treat it like that you will be a very miserable camper. It's a phone, it has an average lifespan of 2 years probably. Use it. It reminds of these people who own a beautiful Ferrari but on't drive it. just keep it in a garage and rub it with a cloth. whats the point?
I think the only thing thats variable on the pink hue thing is the persons opinion of how pink it is. not noticeable or noticeable. some people will say its not there, some people will say it sso pink they cannot even see any other colours.
I had my eyes colour calibrated in a 16 hour operation at an optical lab in switzerland 4 weeks ago, they now recognise 400 shades of pink and have 20/20 vision, so I KNOW my phone has pink. etc etc LOL

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So your saying the new forum theme doesn't look pink to you on your phone? All the grey bits around the forum are definitely pink in colour on mine. Maybe i have one of the affected phones.
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The forum doesn't look at all pink on my phone, I've never seen this issue either.

mcgon1979 said:
people who own a beautiful Ferrari but on't drive it. just keep it in a garage and rub it with a cloth. whats the point?
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Rubbing certain things can be very, um, therapeutic...

DisplayGeek said:
Full Disclosure: I'm one of the inventors of PenTile technology.
PenTile technology was actually designed with a specific minimum distance from which to view it. Bring it too close to one's eyes, one will see the pattern. Actually the same thing also happens with the legacy RGB Stripe matrix, but since one is used to seeing that pattern, one mentally filters it out. The same should happen with the PenTile screen, once one is used to seeing it, one no longer "sees" it, if you can pardon my circular explanation, but it's true. If you use the phone at a more comfortable distance, as opposed to as close to your eyes as you can get, the screen will appear as intended.
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Sorry, but all your arguments don't add up. On LCD screens i have perfectly straight horizontal and vertical lines, there is no need to filter out anything.
On PenTile displays i dont have straight lines because of the pattern that is used. THAT is the problem. Lines look like zigzag-lines not straight ones. And no i'm not looking at my phone from 1 cm distance, i'm looking at it from a normal distance and i can see the pentile effect on my Nexus One. I also had a Motorola Milestone which comes with an LCD that surpasses any AMOLED PenTile screen quality regarding resolution. (while both claim to have wvga)
There is a very easy test for this. Take a Motorola Droid and a Nexus One. Place them side by side and open a webpage on full zoomed out view. You will see the difference in resolution quality VERY clearly. Anybody who claims that there is no difference is lying. You can't just imply that the eye can't see an difference because there are many people out there with normal eyesight (i'm not talking about eagle eyes here) which see the pentile pattern too clearly.
The whole topic is quite frustrating because when buying a nexus one you make one step forward (generall hardware) and two steps back (pentile).

New screen is terrible.. I think. Help?

Can people please post pictures of their phones so I can see the grays? My keyboard and my menus all look TERRIBLE. And I just got this phone today... The store said call them tomorrow if I want to go back out and get a new phone so id like to see if its just me being crazy or if my first galaxy nexus was really better... Thank you for any help

Sounds like you may have banding? Give this thread a look

My issue is with my first one the menu was basically black at the top. and the bottom wasnt too too much lighter. This phone starts out at white on the bottom and is just washed out the entire way up. Idk if its normal or what but my other one was definitely better. I was running ARHD which i dont believe would have really helped. I just wanna see some keyboards and settings menus to see whats going on... The pictures came out a bit darker than real life but I believe they show how off the grays are. The blacks are pretty spot on its just once gray hits its washed out.

Anyone I only have till tomorrow so im gonna unfortunately be persistent.

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My issue is with my first one the menu was basically black at the top. and the bottom wasnt too too much lighter. This phone starts out at white on the bottom and is just washed out the entire way up. Idk if its normal or what but my other one was definitely better. I was running ARHD which i dont believe would have really helped. I just wanna see some keyboards and settings menus to see whats going on... The pictures came out a bit darker than real life but I believe they show how off the grays are. The blacks are pretty spot on its just once gray hits its washed out.
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uh, thats by design. the menu is supposed to fade from black to gray going down.

I wish I could better explain... My other phone just flat out looked better... I just wanna see phones so I can tell if im going to even find one that looks good again... And my keyboard the top bar where the symbols are is the lightest part... I doubt thats by design.

The stock keyboard has a gradient. Rotate the phone and you'll see it in any orientation...
Another way to test is to take a screenshot with the phone and view it on the computer, then you'll see the true gradient that it's supposed to have so you can tell if your screen really is showing what it's supposed to or not.
Gahh Its Lee said:
I wish I could better explain... My other phone just flat out looked better... I just wanna see phones so I can tell if im going to even find one that looks good again... And my keyboard the top bar where the symbols are is the lightest part... I doubt thats by design.
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I believe the point is quickly getting lost... I know for a fact that my other phone had a better looking screen. I just want to see other peoples phones... Im not asking if mine should look this way as far as im concerned it shouldnt if my original didn't... The verizon tech support agreed but said this may just be how 99% of these phones are.
Great way to put it finally came to mind... The screen has the same amount of wash out at 10% brightness on this one as my old one did at 100%

Quality sucks but it was the best I could do on shorthand. Mine has the gradient as well...definitely by design and I think it looks good.
Edit: This is on auto-brightness, lowest level.

*shrug*

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Thank you... Mine doesnt actually look like that. my grays are all out of wack
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Quality sucks but it was the best I could do on shorthand. Mine has the gradient as well...definitely by design and I think it looks good.
Edit: This is on auto-brightness, lowest level.
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Would it be possible for you to take a picture of your entire phone?
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Uhhh, maybe. Let me try.
Edit: Not at this time. I am getting blue tinted pictures in my current lighting.

Thanks anyway man. The one person showed me my grays are definitely lighter than they should be. I was told by tech support I can demand to be shown the phones until I find one I like... Tomorrow shall be fun

Is my Galaxy Nexus screen okay?

Hello. So this is my 6th GNexus that I received today, because I just seem to be getting phones with the same dark screen (in my eyes they are dark). This is at 25% brightness.
Or maybe I'm used to my first brand new one that was just perfect to me? It was naturally bright. The current one I have seems good, but the keyboard is darker and in the notification greys and browser bar grays u can notice the color differences. When I go to a website that's background is reddish/organish it's pretty noticeable there.
As of me typing this, I spoke to Verizon and said if on my 7th GNexus (next one coming Thursday 3/29) had the same issue with the screen they'd be consulting it with Samsung to see if it's a software issue or the LED inside the screen is messed up or something.
Thanks. So how would you describe a "good" screen? Pictures appreciated, just making sure I don't have one that's fine and I'm freaking out about it.

Are you for real or just trolling?
Seriously? Complaining about a dark screen when you have the brightness set to 25%? The screen is supposed to be dark the lower you set the brightness at; that's just common sense, geez...
I think I've finally decided to stop coming to XDA. Coming to these forums just gives me a headache now. All the absolutely idiotic threads/posts by what seem to be either trolls or complete retards. /endrant

I'm for real.
It's at 25% brightness and I've held not one but two GNex in my hands that looked fine at 25%. Something is wrong.
If the forums give you a headache and you can't tell the difference between trolling and reality, welcome to the interwebz. /endrant.
Maybe the thread wasn't completely necessary, but there's the occasional decent person that likes to input on the situation.
Let's start by clearing your headache, you didn't need to reply, if it was a "idiotic thread by a troll or compete retard". Lol.

Let's look at the one constant between all 7 phones, you. I've got one guess where the problem is located.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

Let's look at the one constant between all 7 phones, you. I've got one guess where the problem is located.
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Okay, thanks. I appreciate you coming forth with a more reasonable reply.
In case I'm still being looked upon as a troll, does anyone know the symptoms for a "bad" screen? I searched and read the thread about what's okay and not for a Galaxy Nexus screen but seems like I have some good stuff and some bad stuff, which is confusing.

User error. Obviously.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.

So I'm guessing you've had a look at the sticky on this forum? I don't see what's so confusing about it? You either have unattainable expectations on what the screen 'should' be or your the most unlucky person ever. There's no way 7 devices in a row would be faulty.

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So I'm guessing you've had a look at the sticky on this forum? I don't see what's so confusing about it? You either have unattainable expectations on what the screen 'should' be or your the most unlucky person ever. There's no way 7 devices in a row would be faulty.
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Yeah, you got me thinking now, anyway here are some pictures, while I'm not a pro photographer I tried my best as I was in a hurry. These are taken from an HTC Thunderbolt. (25% brightness) These look right?
Anything odd in the color of the yellow coins in Temple Run?
Red and Brown seem odd to any of you?
Keyboard, here's where I really think it's a bit dark, look behind the keys. This is a screenshot but if the issue shows even in the Android OS Screenshot.. isn't that an issue?

Icey34 said:
Yeah, you got me thinking now, anyway here are some pictures, while I'm not a pro photographer I tried my best as I was in a hurry. These are taken from an HTC Thunderbolt. (25% brightness) These look right?
Anything odd in the color of the yellow coins in Temple Run?
Red and Brown seem odd to any of you?
Keyboard, here's where I really think it's a bit dark, look behind the keys. This is a screenshot but if the issue shows even in the Android OS Screenshot.. isn't that an issue?
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i think a visit to your friendly neighborhood eye doctor will do wonders. or an eyepatch so the looks you get won't be so bad.

Ehh a nice amount of sarcasm there but, that can mean 2 things good or bad, so you think it's alright?

Looks fine. I've seen pictures that were easily worse.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.

Okay, thanks huge sigh of relief.
So the other ones I had that were brighter, were just different screens but they weren't bad (nor was this one)? Right?

Looks just fine to me.
You have the brightness at 25% though? If the screen on another one looked fine at 25% (maybe a demo in the store?) maybe you should think about the lighting where you used it. If it was inside and fine at 25% but you are using yours outside at 25% then that is likely the problem. The brightness needs to be higher in brighter rooms / brighter days.
Try setting it to auto and see if it works fine for you that way. If it does, then you are using it as intended AND it works for you, so no worries. Remember, it is an AMOLED display and is designed to be more power efficient than other displays, so having it on auto should be just fine.
I personally set mine to 20% on another phone (totally different type of display, though the backlight itself might be similar, IDK) and its fine until a bit of sunlight hits it. I then switch it back to auto when I exit a building or enter a place with those obnoxiously bright halogen lights.
I suspect that is the issue you are having, how you are using it vs how it is designed to be used.

I know what you mean. But the 3rd GNex and the first I had, everything on the phone was literally brighter on 25% brightness. So I guess every phone has a different screen? (The phones with working/good) screens.
What I mean by "brighter" is for example the background of the keyboard set when your going to type a message, it varies a lot in brightness from phone to phone.

Brightness Uniformity of Note 2 Display.

When you go into LCD Test (*#0*#), I notice that the brightness is not really all that uniform on the display. If I bring the device close to my face I see the brightness as same and when I extend the phone further away from I can see a little difference of brightness (very minute difference; extremely hard to tell unless you play with the different brightness modes). To appreciate the difference you need to squint your eyes. Am I trying to be too nit-picky?

Okay, my eyes are playing with me; just washed my eyes and everything looks normal, what AMOLED should look like, early mornings, lol :silly:

winlinmac001 said:
When you go into LCD Test (*#0*#), I notice that the brightness is not really all that uniform on the display. If I bring the device close to my face I see the brightness as same and when I extend the phone further away from I can see a little difference of brightness (very minute difference; extremely hard to tell unless you play with the different brightness modes). To appreciate the difference you need to squint your eyes. Am I trying to be too nit-picky?
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yeah seems you're trying really hard to find any imperfections. "extremely hard to tell, play with brightness modes, squint eyes etc"
should i do this under a full moon or candle light?
i usually stay away from these threads but just found all the conditions you mentioned funny. just use your phone under normal conditions. i havent noticed a single flaw... cause im not looking & digging for them.
you have three threds open discussing screens, mura & audio problems... seems like maybe you're trying to convince yourself or others about something?
EDIT: Four threads.... Refurbished phone

Perhaps, I know I paid too much, and finding flaw's like these shouldn't be so easy. I mean, I've been through '3' Note 2 already, currently on my 3rd Note 2, and am I trying to mend my relationship with the Samsung Company, especially after facing more or less similar experiences on the S2 and Note 1. I know my AMOLED display is fine, but physical things like chrome-paint finish, and elevated home button are things I really hoped Samsung would improve their quality-control on; pretty soon, they will loose business as a result of this. I made threads not only to share my insight, but to also have an open discussion about everything I have come across with the Note 2. Not surprising, many have seemed to confirm the same things that I see. So, I'm just joining the bandwagon and moving along. :good:

I think I'm going blind because im very satisfied with screen on my note or maybe I'm not that picky. I be happy if it last next 2-3 years or until my next impuls buy.
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I put the brigher note app on mine and I love it .Seemed to help the whites look better also.

I don't think I can do that.
SlsAustin said:
I put the brigher note app on mine and I love it .Seemed to help the whites look better also.
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