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Hello,
Having used lox devs dev Eclair AOSP ROM I've realised how lacking the Hero is in its standard form - general speed of use and just the way the system feels.
In short I love using 2.0 with none of the HTC bloatware, its a shame as I don't think the ROM devs think there is much call for this - Hopefully in this thread everyone who agrees will shout up.
Obviously the dev one has its issues - sync, random crashes on phone function, etc, but I'm happy to work with it if I know there is development coming.
It would be great for one of the devs to take the project on board, knowing there is community support for this. I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels this way.
Unfortunately I'm no way programmingly minded and struggle with linux at the best of times, never mind thinking about coding, but I'd donate/support/playtest any work in progress clean android *latest version* ROM for the Hero.
Sorry...subtract 1 No. I am not an android Dev..but have been drinking Leffe
anybody got anything to add to this?
i will request Lox_Dev to update this rom when he gets some free time as i know he is working hard to get Eclair 2.1 done. I and a friend of mine is using 2.0 AOSP for last 5 days and none of us is complaining with basic features. all look good.
just 2-3 things need to be fixed.
* cant set own wallpaper as album/gallery app isnt there.
* bluetooth pairs but cant send/receive files
* camera works upto 3 megapixel.
otherwise i dont find any major problem with AOSP 2.0. i dint face a single hang in 5 days and neither did my friend.
Well, first off all. The current 2.0 / 2.1 builds all run very laggy and crappy. It is as if the video drivers aren't using any acceleration at all or something.
In Lox's 2.0 clean build (which I've used for the past few days) every bit of animation except the lockscreen goes laggy. Scrolling through the menu, opening the menu, opening the notifications... it never goes as smooth as on the 1.5 based ROMS.
I'm in no way complaining, don't get me wrong. I'm very interested in using a stock android experience but so far nothing is working good yet. The 1.6 based tries don't support all the hardware, and the 2.0 / 2.1 based ROMs aren't up to speed.
This is more than understandable ofcourse. The 2.0 / 2.1 based ROMS are based on leaked alpha / beta work which just isn't ready yet, and 1.6 differs too much from the stock android ROM to get all the hardware working OK.
So my hope is that when HTC releases their 2.0 / 2.1 official ROM, we can use it to make a clean vanilla Android 2.x experience which runs as snappy as our current HTC 1.5 versions, and still with all the hardware working OK. Maybe even with a guide how to 'backup' or transfer the googlebits from the official 2.x ROM.
A clean 2.x ROM, but with the googlebits, and with the HTC music player + album + camera + browser... now that would be awesome.
Starting a thread like this isn't really much use right now, since we only have buggy laggy 2.x bits from a leaked ROM to get stuff working.
dipje said:
A clean 2.x ROM, but with the googlebits, and with the HTC music player + album + camera + browser... now that would be awesome.
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Ha, ridiculous. Seriously I don't get people's issue with Sense UI, if you don't want it fine.. But deal with the fact that you're losing HTC apps as well.
kwiksand said:
But deal with the fact that you're losing HTC apps as well.
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omg how am I ever gonna live without a laggy browser, calendar, contact list or sms application?
It would be the best thing ever, IMO.
And nobody needs to be offended, those who want sense UI can just use that
Exactly! So stop flooding Hero (HTC) ROM threads with useless crap about wanting a ROM minus Rosie/Sense UI, E2K you've been the worst offender?!?!
You must be happy now that a almost fully functional AOSP ROM's in the wild!
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Exactly! So stop flooding Hero (HTC) ROM threads with useless crap about wanting a ROM minus Rosie/Sense UI, E2K you've been the worst offender?!?!
You must be happy now that a almost fully functional AOSP ROM's in the wild!
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Happy?? I am more happy than ever! (regarding the hero)
Also very thankful that the developers got their sh*t together and are pumping out roms like real pro's.
THe devs should be called "hero" not this 2007 pos A7200 cellphone
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Ha, ridiculous. Seriously I don't get people's issue with Sense UI, if you don't want it fine.. But deal with the fact that you're losing HTC apps as well.
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wtf is wrong with stating what would be a nice combo in my opinion? I even started by saying that for now there should be no hope and 'just requesting it to the devs' right now is bonkers. When a good HTC 2.x ROM comes along the devs have something to play with, until then this thread was useless... and still you gonna call that ridiculous? Your even saying that to a user who has tried a vanilla ROM for the whole of 30 hours before running back to my nandroid backup with MCR on it.
Go troll somewhere else please, or at least read the posts carefully and whole you're going to attack.
Hi Guys apologies if people know about this found this elsewhere but below is a link to a video of HTC desire (black T-mobile) running sense and live wallpapers i know that in terms of specs its far superior to the hero,but has anyone got thier hands on a leak of this rom ? is there one available ? and what would be the chances of porting this to hero with live wallpapers or using the base perhaps to build an AOSP 2.1 rom for hero with live wallpapers ?
hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-mUxxJIEM&feature=player_embedded
EDIT:Ok so yes there is an alph 7 release that has been ported to nexus one over at modaco and the guys there have a release candidate rom over there that there also working on porting so could we get this on our Hero's ?
The desire has a different resolution so it's probably not worth the hassle to port it over.
The Desire ROM isn't really portable to a Hero or Legend. Just use the Legend ROM for that.
The hardware platform is different, the resolution and all the graphics in Sense are (probably) different.
You can use any of the AOSP 2.1 ROMS (like Kagudroid 1.2 or 1.3) and try Live Wallpapers on there. What is working works, what doesn't is because of hardware restraints.
CKDroid (or something) managed to get some more working by playing with the OpenGL drivers, but anything more than that is simply impossible on the hero hardware.
mobby0411 said:
Hi Guys apologies if people know about this found this elsewhere but below is a link to a video of HTC desire (black T-mobile) running sense and live wallpapers i know that in terms of specs its far superior to the hero,but has anyone got thier hands on a leak of this rom ? is there one available ? and what would be the chances of porting this to hero with live wallpapers or using the base perhaps to build an AOSP 2.1 rom for hero with live wallpapers ?
hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-mUxxJIEM&feature=player_embedded
EDIT:Ok so yes there is an alph 7 release that has been ported to nexus one over at modaco and the guys there have a release candidate rom over there that there also working on porting so could we get this on our Hero's ?
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that desire isnt even running 2.1....
Hi guys this is a Ion Donut Build based on Zenulator's Build http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-de...d.php?t=582810
Working
everything
Use this kernel NBH voguimg-320x480-02-07-10.nbh from dzo's site remember to edit it with your desired settings
RLS 3 http://www.mediafire.com/?yynhm0re58n2jq2
added News and Weather Widget
it is now odexed and zipaligned
enjoy
Screens below
screenshot please..
im pleasing too.. thx
Camera works fine for me perhaps your nbh is wrong.
Is it possible to unlock the market to have full paid and free apps with an ion build?
Are there any skins for ion build?
Thanks. Great build so far.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using XDA App
Nevermind. Unlocked the market with Market Enabler.
I like it, camera works but still dark. Widget Power control doesn't work for wifi, gps and sync.
Im still testing it, but i like the speed and the stability. thanks a lot mate good work
what 'ion build' mean? (i'm noob on android porting stuff, so sorry if the question is too stupid)
The ION was/is a Google dev phone, so Ion Donut is a donut build based on the Ion.
It's not too stupid a question, I bet there are loads of people who wondered that, just none were brave enough to ask
All versions of android after 1.1 ( the first official release), have cake related names.
1.5 Cupcake
1.6 Donut
2.0/2.1 Eclair
2.2 Froyo ( FROzen YOghurt)
3.0 Gingerbread ( presently expected september-december 2010).
My Feedback
I installed the build and I first noticed the simple Android boot logo. It looks good. I had a few problems with the lockscreen button (power button). It didn't work at first, but after two tries it did. Wifi works. I haven't tried bluetooth though. Of course the camera didn't work.
I'm a little confused.. It says it's Firmware Version is 1.6 but it has the FroYo Status Bar? I like that, but It would be nice to have 2.1 or 2.2. It seems to be very close to Myn's Warm Donut RLS 5.
Keep up the good work
Thanks for the feedback guys I will have a look at it tonight and try fix the camera and enable full market
Sent from my HTC Vogue FroYo using XDA App
This looks great !, i will try asap
Donut is the better and faster Android build for the kaiser, hopefully this project will last a long time, thanks a lot!
Regards
This build is the fastest and most stable I have tried. Thanks!
good donut stable and fast for the moment
can you reintroduce "News & weather" on next release ?
thank you
Yep I will add the news and weather app when I get the chance hanks for the feedback enjoy
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updated see first post
I'll test it and let you know. Thanks.
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added News and Weather Widget
it is now odexed and zipaligned
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yu're the one
i'm very sad about your phone bricked
hope we'll see you around there
1000 thx
why not using very latest dzo nbh ?
the camera would not work for me if i used the latest one i don't know why either i tested it and the camera wouldnt work in myns warm donut either
There are significant differences in the newer Froyo nbh's that 'break' camera for donut, at the moment older nbh's work fine, just stay clear of the froyo ones
For Polaris 100:
i'm actually testing with lastest dzo's polaris nbh
camera work fine, wifi and bluetooth don't
with the nbh you purpose on the first page, i can't have data connection and that's very annoying.
Hi,
Most Hero ROMs try to port FriendStream, News and Live Wallpapers from the Legend/Desire to our Heros but wouldn't be better to just use a Legend port?
I've read about a few problems in the past, when we were still waiting for the official 2.1 update for the Hero and the Legend/Desire were just being released, about doing stuff like this that it would never be 100% like the current official 2.1 update for the Hero (well, it's not 100% either, but you know what I mean).
But now we have official RUU updates from the Legend (the most similar to the Hero of the new phones) we also have the source for the Hero 2.1 kernel, wouldn't that be enough to create a good and fully working port for the Hero? Wouldn't be better instead of using the official Hero 2.1?
I'm not as experienced as most devs here, that's why I'm wondering if this would be better and if there's some problem porting the Legend ROM that I'm overlooking...
No one has an opinion on this?
Nazgulled said:
No one has an opinion on this?
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There was this ROM called Legendroid, I don't remember who was the developer But the ROM was pretty fast and stable.
Dr.dre said:
There was this ROM called Legendroid, I don't remember who was the developer But the ROM was pretty fast and stable.
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Sure, but that doesn't really "answer my question"
I mean, we know have the source code for the kernel, which we didn't back then when such ROMs were released...
I'm wondering if that makes a difference...
Changing the kernel is not enough.
You could be more explicit...
I'm not a dev, but as a user I can say, that those were slow and battery sucker.
But if you do one what is speedy, uses battery at least as good as the official based ones, and it'll have more features....
Hero community will love you C:
liljom said:
I'm not a dev, but as a user I can say, that those were slow and battery sucker.
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I am pretty sure this was caused by the lack of the .29 kernel it should be better now.
Well I can't really see why a Legend ROM would be better than a Hero ROM, but I would like the News Reader Widget, I find it dumb how HTC wouldn't give the 2.1 Hero this widget but whatever.
OH btw don't take this as discouragement by all means go for it since most people ditched their Legend ROMs so if you can do it I don't see why not variety is good .
i thought the only problems transferring features from the legend ROM was the friendstream widget as everything else was ported over to normal Hero ROMs one way or another before the official 2.1 RUU came out.
it would obviously be easier to port the extra stuff from the legend ROM to the Hero ROMs
I don't think it would cause the Legend ROM has more things than the News and FriendStream widgets... For instance, the browser has quick actions for selected text which is cool, the mail widget has 3 variants (Hero's only have 1). And I'm sure there lots of other tiny little details...
It's a pain to port all these things one by one, it's just easier (I think) to port the whole thing with a Hero kernel (but I'm not the one to do it).
And I'm sure there are other "hidden" stuff that our Heros lack, it's just their way to differentiate their phones. It sucks for customers, but it's good for them.
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I don't think it would cause the Legend ROM has more things than the News and FriendStream widgets... For instance, the browser has quick actions for selected text which is cool, the mail widget has 3 variants (Hero's only have 1). And I'm sure there lots of other tiny little details...
It's a pain to port all these things one by one, it's just easier (I think) to port the whole thing with a Hero kernel (but I'm not the one to do it).
And I'm sure there are other "hidden" stuff that our Heros lack, it's just their way to differentiate their phones. It sucks for customers, but it's good for them.
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If we take a legend port suppose would you be able to modify the Hero kernal to work on the port with OC.
As I said, it is not only the kernel that needs to be changed. But... we already have a Legend port... Fallah
I don't want to be rude but cloud you please stop saying that changing the kernel is not enough without explaining why and/or what else is needed?
You're not being very helpful like that...
And that Legend port is not based on WWE, so it would be a no go for me.
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I don't want to be rude but cloud you please stop saying that changing the kernel is not enough without explaining why and/or what else is needed?
You're not being very helpful like that...
And that Legend port is not based on WWE, so it would be a no go for me.
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Have u tried asking the author of Fallah about it?
you guys got some response at least. good try.
my post in june just got rejected and ignored about the same exact thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698053
should have free time in the coming months and i'm going to try make a legend port. i'm not a "dev" i know a little but i cant do what a lot of these guys do by any means. if its stable i might share
still use my G1 for random development as well as a magic 32b and now i got the desire i can try be brave and try out things on the hero.
logcat is your friend
There is a legend ROM on this Swedish forum. But the ROM should be wwe.
http://www.swedroid.se/forum/showthread.php?t=8217
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I don't want to be rude but cloud you please stop saying that changing the kernel is not enough without explaining why and/or what else is needed?
You're not being very helpful like that...
And that Legend port is not based on WWE, so it would be a no go for me.
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I tried using Legendroid 1.0.1 with Behnaam .29 kernal Ben 23 with OC, It works very well except for the Browser it lags a bit rest all is fine
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I tried using Legendroid 1.0.1 with Behnaam .29 kernal Ben 23 with OC, It works very well except for the Browser it lags a bit rest all is fine
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could you please add links to each post where we can download those two flashable files?
Also, has anyone tried fallah or the swedish rom yet? I downloaded them both just now but am running the just released updated cronos froyo rom right now and don't want to reflash until I've tested this baby thoroughly.
what I miss most about the old legend ports was the FAR superior text selector system with zooming etc. Is that part of these roms or was that a bit of a hack in the older roms? it sure was sweet....
It really should be part of android, but considering it's similar to the apple copy/paste concept, I'm wondering if there might be some patent infringement going on there which might explain why it's not used by HTC in other roms than the legend stuff. But that is just a rumor I pieced together myself so it's probably wrong.
anyway, it's the best text selector system on android. froyo's selector comes close but isn't still as good imho.
Azure465 said:
There is a legend ROM on this Swedish forum. But the ROM should be wwe.
http://www.swedroid.se/forum/showthread.php?t=8217
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It looks hacked with a different theme, I'm not very fond of that... Thanks for sharing though.
I might try to do a port myself when I get the chance, similar to the Nebulae (my own ROM) features and see how that goes...
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It looks hacked with a different theme, I'm not very fond of that... Thanks for sharing though.
I might try to do a port myself when I get the chance, similar to the Nebulae (my own ROM) features and see how that goes...
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i have ported a legend rom, newest ruu from shipped roms...
it works pretty good, exept wifi, need a modified libhardware_legacy.so, so it use the wlan.ko instead of tiwlan_drv.ko :/
have to make a alfa corner, so we maybe can work on the problems together...
but all that when i come back from my vacation...
now that there's a 2.3 build with sense for HTC Sense leaked out there, i wonder if it's possible to port it to our devices?
Dump source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11379272#post11379272
was hoping port a port too.. maybe it would take up to 2 months to go for an official update.. a ported version would suffice
Actually it should be possible, but since the DHD has the Adreno GPU it could result in the same little issues CM7 has. Some 3D Apps do have trouble and performance isnt really the best for everyone (different results from user to user). There are no official Gingerbread drivers out for the Adreno Chip.
But, considering how well CM7 already runs on the DHD, it should be no problem after all.
Lets just hope some talented devs can look into it and get a stable build together until the official stuff gets released by HTC.
i will get working on a port straight away
RaiderX303 said:
i will get working on a port straight away
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SWEET!
is sense any different for 2.3? are there any changes from 2.2 w/sense to 2.3 w/ sense?
intelintelintel said:
is sense any different for 2.3? are there any changes from 2.2 w/sense to 2.3 w/ sense?
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It's probably Sense 2.1, the one on new HTC devices they have announced at MWC2011. It has more function and let's hope for better performance
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i will get working on a port straight away
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Great, man, and if you fel like you want another beta-tester, just count me in!
If needed, I could have access to a HardSPL-ed HD2 as well, just ask...
LE: Oh, I just saw you already have an HD2 as well. Nevermind...
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is sense any different for 2.3? are there any changes from 2.2 w/sense to 2.3 w/ sense?
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Gingerbread has smoother scrolling & transition effects, thats the only thing I have noticed.
Hope the fonts are small like the regular desire hd roms & not gigantic.
RaiderX303 said:
i will get working on a port straight away
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Let me know how you get on mate, was working on it a few days ago but dex-opt kept failing
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Im not getting any dexopt issues but I am gettin gpu driver issues due to diff gpu, huashan is omap3 instead of msm
I'm so happy to see, that 2 such great developer work on porting it