How to install rom without RADIO - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Can someone tell me how to install any extended ROM (i.e. ROM + Radio) without installing radio or in other words how to install the ROM part of the available ROM not the embedded radio.

All the cooked ROM's that i have seen here come with no radio. Because flashing the radio is one of the most risky things to do with your phone.
If you flash an original manufacture ROM it installs the radio with it. Unless you find the stripped version.

yes everything is true!!!
but... you can change the name of the shipped romd to .rar or .zip intead of exe....
Then extract just the Ruu_signed.nbh... paste it into a ruu wrapper folder and flash it... the ruu_signed nbh is just the rom...
If you saw inside of the shipped exe you will find maybe ms.nbh (extended ROM) radio.nbh ipl.nbh spl.nbh... so you dont need the others... this kind of tricj was implemented to the last shipped rom... the Stripped Att rom for HTC Hermes.

Thank you +Que. Sorry i am new to all this. Thank you for the clarification.

+ Que PPC said:
yes everything is true!!!
but... you can change the name of the shipped romd to .rar or .zip intead of exe....
Then extract just the Ruu_signed.nbh... paste it into a ruu wrapper folder and flash it... the ruu_signed nbh is just the rom...
If you saw inside of the shipped exe you will find maybe ms.nbh (extended ROM) radio.nbh ipl.nbh spl.nbh... so you dont need the others... this kind of tricj was implemented to the last shipped rom... the Stripped Att rom for HTC Hermes.
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The radio is inside the ruu_signed.nbh, and you have to use something like duttys nbh tool to extract all the nb files, then put it back together without the radio.
Try it! here is the at&t shipped rom: http://www.4shared.com/file/9694978...3625023_6275_1540700_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship.html
And dutty's nbh tool http://gator1032.hostgator.com/~boog/rom_stuff/nbhtool.7z

Thanks to all of you for giving answers, i donwloaded the nbhtool and extract the contents of the nbh file to a folder but when i go for making a nbh from nb files i become confused. wat'll be the version and signature size of the new nbh file, is it the version of the official rom and what'll be the signature ????

Being new, you shouldn't worry about trying to strip a rom yet. Get some reading and experience under your belt.
You can grab the at&t stripped rom from my signature (or search the forums, there are other places to get it as well), it has the radio removed.
And the cooked roms here in the forum do not have the radio, either.
If your really wanting to get into the guts of the rom, search for all the terms you see in the nbh tool (there might possibly even be a tutorial on it), and grab a few kitchens. The best way to learn is to mess it up a few times and have to fix it.
Maybe I could try to show you where things should go, but I'm posting this from my phone, so it will have to be later.

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I Require a definitive method to dump a ROM

OK, i've been reading about for a few days now on the ROM dumping procedure, and i have myself a shiny .bin file.
I have tried using dumprom on this, with it just sitting there in an endless loop hammering my HDDs.
What i would like to do is get this to a form where it could be reflashed onto the device.
The otherthing that i would like guidance on is file extraction from another device's ROM (The purpose of this is to get msn messenger on a vodafone v1640)
Comeon, surely there is someone out there after the Vodafone v1640 1.13.62WWE ROM that could help me get a flashable dump?
heliosfa said:
What i would like to do is get this to a form where it could be reflashed onto the device.
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just look at link at buzzdev.net re encoding the Rom.
You Decode a rom then substitute the decoded nk.nba with your raw dump, then encodd then you can flash back. it's all there at buzz's forum. I've done it with my Spanish ROM as there seems to be no downloadable Qtek spanish rom
Jorgee said:
heliosfa said:
What i would like to do is get this to a form where it could be reflashed onto the device.
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just look at link at buzzdev.net re encoding the Rom.
You Decode a rom then substitute the decoded nk.nba with your raw dump, then encodd then you can flash back. it's all there at buzz's forum. I've done it with my Spanish ROM as there seems to be no downloadable Qtek spanish rom
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I want to know how to substitute. Is it just to open the dumped raw ROM with Hex editor, and then copy all the content to replace all of the decoded nk.nba. Then, encode the modified nk.nba back to nk.nbf?
I need your advice, Jorgee. Thanks in advance!
Jorgee said:
You Decode a rom then substitute the decoded nk.nba with your raw dump, then encodd then you can flash back.
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so all i do is rename my dump.bin to nk.nba?
Yes to both.
AFTER decoding nk.nbf following the procedure in buzzdev, you will get a file named nk.nba.... Just rename your Dump file to nk.nba then encode. It will overwrite nk.nbf with your dumped ROM then you can now flash
cheers jorgee, i'll be trying that tonight.
The other question i have, how do i get the extended rom and radio rom to add to this package?
To get the bin dump, i used grabit.
I suppose that i could use the extended rom unlocker for the extended, but what about the radio ROM?
**EDIT** Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to have rendered a valid file for encoding into nbf . Is grabit the correct tool to use to dumpo a rom for this?
you can't use grabit on universal, yet.
follow the topic "how to dump OS rom" @ buzzdev.net
it is on the frontpage.
if the standard d2s doesn't work for you, read the forum thread there.
buzz
With regards to the Radio, they are not Language specific so i guess it doesn't matter from what ROM you get it from but it is the radio_.nbf file. Just look for a ROM with the same radio. The extended rom, you can just copy the partition, then copy it back after.
Cheers Buzz, i was hoping that you would see this and point me in the right direction after reading some of your posts
Funnilly enough, i looked at that thread and must have missed the pdocread bit :side:
Thanks for your help aswell jorgee, i'll let ya know when i have a v1640 rom so that you can all have some fun with it (intergrating msn messenger HINT HINT)

Ripping .cabs from other ROMS

I have searched for the last 2 hours and cannot come up with a good answer.
I have a collection of various ROMS that people have cooked up, for instance Blinky and others. There are some items I would like to grab from these ROM sets and either make my own or install a ROM and install these other file individually from the .cab files.
I guess the question is how would I go about tearing apart the .nbh file so I could get what I wanted from it?
ThanX in advance.
Use ROMDonalds kitchen to extract whatever you want out a ROM. Use the signature link before to search for the Kitchen!

[Q]Replace/update OEM packages and other issues...

First of all I'm sorry for my english, hope you can understand me...
I'm going to cook my first ROM...
The idea is to make 2 versions (with/without manila) of a clean "uc capable" rom; what I want to do is take a 1.93 official base and update some oem app and sys (i.e. htc camera and netcf) and remove some others to replace theese with 3t part usefully app (i.e. putting in wktask manager instead htc task).
Now my doubts:
(I've readed a lot of wikies and thread but didn't find a CLEAR answer to all my questions)
1- If I use an official .exe rom as base I obiouvsly find inside it the radio part...have to remove this befor but in base folder due i don't need it for my work? How?
2- I'm able to remove oem pack from my rom base and I'm also able to repack new ones starting from a cab file...but I don't know if it's possible to take (exactly as they are) some oem pack from a stock/custom(when not protected) rom to use in mine...I saw that a lot of cookers use oem pack taken from raphael official roms to update thair roms and I would know if the process to do this is just open the rom, copy the oem and past it in mine... In this case...where can I find a good very update raphael rom?!
3- Opposite than this, for manila I would use the "animated switches" version. I want to downgrade it to the version with theese animations but I don't know if there's a particular process to replace this oem...can you tell me? PS: what is the exact manila version I need to do it?
4- TO UPDATE NETCF TO THE 3.5 VERSION WHAT HAVE I EXACTLY DO? And is the Alexandre's oem pack good for my pourpose?
Thank you a lot and sorry if (maybe) some questions were answered in other threads...I searched and readed a lot but there are too many informations in this forum for a noob/bad english speaker/... like me so I decided to ask!
GriFolle said:
First of all I'm sorry for my english, hope you can understand me...
I'm going to cook my first ROM...
The idea is to make 2 versions (with/without manila) of a clean "uc capable" rom; what I want to do is take a 1.93 official base and update some oem app and sys (i.e. htc camera and netcf) and remove some others to replace theese with 3t part usefully app (i.e. putting in wktask manager instead htc task).
Now my doubts:
(I've readed a lot of wikies and thread but didn't find a CLEAR answer to all my questions)
1- If I use an official .exe rom as base I obiouvsly find inside it the radio part...have to remove this befor but in base folder due i don't need it for my work? How?
2- I'm able to remove oem pack from my rom base and I'm also able to repack new ones starting from a cab file...but I don't know if it's possible to take (exactly as they are) some oem pack from a stock/custom(when not protected) rom to use in mine...I saw that a lot of cookers use oem pack taken from raphael official roms to update thair roms and I would know if the process to do this is just open the rom, copy the oem and past it in mine... In this case...where can I find a good very update raphael rom?!
3- Opposite than this, for manila I would use the "animated switches" version. I want to downgrade it to the version with theese animations but I don't know if there's a particular process to replace this oem...can you tell me? PS: what is the exact manila version I need to do it?
4- TO UPDATE NETCF TO THE 3.5 VERSION WHAT HAVE I EXACTLY DO? And is the Alexandre's oem pack good for my pourpose?
Thank you a lot and sorry if (maybe) some questions were answered in other threads...I searched and readed a lot but there are too many informations in this forum for a noob/bad english speaker/... like me so I decided to ask!
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1. When dumping a ROM, it will dump separately the splashes, radio, os and extrom (if any.) Extract the exe with WinRAR and dump the nbh.
2. When dumping a ROM, it will create packages if ROM is unprotected. A good place of finding a Raph ROM would be the Raphael forums.
3. Delete the old package from kitchen and replace with new one (in your case, the old one, animated).
4. You can find ready made NetCF 3.5 packages. You should delete the old NetCF 2 from SYS folder and replace it with the 3.5
tnyynt said:
1. When dumping a ROM, it will dump separately the splashes, radio, os and extrom (if any.) Extract the exe with WinRAR and dump the nbh.
2. When dumping a ROM, it will create packages if ROM is unprotected. A good place of finding a Raph ROM would be the Raphael forums.
3. Delete the old package from kitchen and replace with new one (in your case, the old one, animated).
4. You can find ready made NetCF 3.5 packages. You should delete the old NetCF 2 from SYS folder and replace it with the 3.5
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Thanks a lot!
So, to replace OEM, just put out (from a rom) and put in (in mine)...so simple?!
Ahahah...
Please, excuse me for my stupidity...BUT I REALLY NEED AN HELP!!!
(I'm following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782&highlight=kitchen)
Here's what I do:
1) I've downloaded from htc site the last official stock rom (localized for my country) \HTC Touch Diamond\QMR\RUU_Diamond_HTC_ITA_1.93.408.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
2) I've extracted all files and putted them into Base ROM folder of surface kitchen.
3) clicked on begin and obtained some folders in the kitchwen one
Now if I go into one package folders in OEM (htc gesture in example) i can't see dsm or rgu files, but just dll and .provxml ones...WHY?! I don't think it's good, right? Where is my fault?!
SO SAD...
PS: I've searched a lot but I've not found a netcf prepared package to cook...
Thanks a lot!
GriFolle said:
Please, excuse me for my stupidity...BUT I REALLY NEED AN HELP!!!
(I'm following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782&highlight=kitchen)
Here's what I do:
1) I've downloaded from htc site the last official stock rom (localized for my country) \HTC Touch Diamond\QMR\RUU_Diamond_HTC_ITA_1.93.408.3_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship
2) I've extracted all files and putted them into Base ROM folder of surface kitchen.
3) clicked on begin and obtained some folders in the kitchwen one
Now if I go into one package folders in OEM (htc gesture in example) i can't see dsm or rgu files, but just dll and .provxml ones...WHY?! I don't think it's good, right? Where is my fault?!
SO SAD...
PS: I've searched a lot but I've not found a netcf prepared package to cook...
Thanks a lot!
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You have to create the packages!
Don't know the kitchen but it should be like this in every kitchen.
Also, you can check inside provxml file (notepad will do), maybe the rgu (registry entries) are set through provisioning.
tnyynt said:
You have to create the packages!
Don't know the kitchen but it should be like this in every kitchen.
Also, you can check inside provxml file (notepad will do), maybe the rgu (registry entries) are set through provisioning.
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confused...
I think I have to create just the packages of apps I would to add...not even all the apps contained in the stock rom!
Looking and reading tutorials in this forum I understood that If I would (i.e.) add/rmv apps to my rom I've just to put its files in base rom and then (after extract all) add/remove what I want. Then rebuild.
But for all others teorically I don't do anything...Is this wrong?
PS: thank you for the previous reply

Nbh to Nb and back.

Hey there guys, im looking for a tool similer to nbhtool floting around here on xda. I found it last year but cant find it now. Reason is I downloaded a windows mobile 6.5 beta rom and its got a radio.nb file in it and I dont like to flash my device with radio. Can anyone direct me in the right direction or at least tell me what setting to use in nbhtool to flash all the files back to nbh excluding radio rom? Thank you.

Customize/edit cooked rom?

Hi all.
I have a Touch Diamond (bought in Denmark).
I have tried many cooked roms now and the best I have found than runs blazing fast is this one: httpREMOVE://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483539 - with danish language (hurray).. (cannot post links yet)
But, I find the apps that are preinstalled quite old and I would really like to update them (and maybe completely remove some apps).
Is this possible? I don't know anything about cooking roms. I downloaded Gen.Y's kitchen but with this I can't open a .nbh fil - only .erv can be opened.
I hope someone can help me. I have finally found a rom that suit my needs (well almost), but it is just a bit outdated..
Best regards from Denmark.
Use this to open the .NBH file
cdynu said:
Use this to open the .NBH file
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Thank you very much for your reply.
I can open the nbh file with htcRIE.
I have found some programs in OS>IMGFS>SYS> and in OS>IMGFS>OEM that I would like to remove/update.
But that doesn't seem possible in htcRIE? I cannot delete any files..
Maybe this is harder to do than I thought?
Best regards from Denmark
Some .nbh files (roms ) are protected for delete ,change some files ; others no .
I am so close (I guess)..
I downloaded "Surface Kitchen" and got the rom file extracted.
I removed som apps.
I build a new rom - but here it goes wrong. Under the process it reports missing "boot.rgu" and something with XIP?
It builds the rom but it doesn't boot up on my phone, guess the boot.rgu file is some crucial
How can I extract the boot.rgu from the rom? Or can I use a boot.rgu from another rom??
Best regards from Denmark

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