Htc stop implementing the hard zoom feature in your phones! - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I Dont know about you guys but I really hate the built in zoom feature on all of the new htc phones. To me it is a waste of space that could have better implemented with a Dpad. I hardly ever use it and it doesnt even work for very many things except the web browser. I see htc messing up all of their new good phones with it.
I see it as a waste of space. I see myself missing a dpad or scroll ball a lot more than I even think about the zoom option.
How do you feel?

I have two gripes about the TP2 hardware:
No scroll wheel or D-pad for ease of navigation
Seidio doesn't have a spring-clip holster yet

Does it work on word or excel?

Yep it does work with excel, word, pictures, internet....
I use the bar all the time, just love it.
So HTC: Please keep the zoom-bar!!

Don't use the zoom a lot, but it does work great when I do...
Would like to change it into dpad though! (Zooming can be achieved by other means)

Well I can think off cool games with throttle.
But other then that, the zoombar just doesn't work to well for me. If it did work well, more fluent I would like to keep it. It's nice to zoom in a little bit on webpages, and not to far like what happens when you double tab in opera.

Well, I'd like to have a D-pad (because it's handy in games) but I don't have a problem with the zoom bar on my TP2. I'd like both, really. My only gripe is that too few applications support the zoombar. If Opera 9.7 beta supported it I'd stop using 9.5 altogether, but because it doesn't I still use both.
That said, iPhone-style multi-touch pinch-zooming is a MUCH better solution, and I'm looking forward to trying out the Leo.

Shasarak said:
If Opera 9.7 beta supported it I'd stop using 9.5 altogether, but because it doesn't I still use both.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
2nd subject down should sort you out!
hope this helps
Joe

Joe Pinball said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
2nd subject down should sort you out!
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Oh, cool! I'll try that when I have a moment....

ronh said:
Yep it does work with excel, word, pictures, internet....
I use the bar all the time, just love it.
So HTC: Please keep the zoom-bar!!
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Uh, people you will see me migrating from X1 to TP2 pretty soon...

ronh said:
I use the bar all the time, just love it.
So HTC: Please keep the zoom-bar!!
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in complete agreement.

Joe Pinball said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
2nd subject down should sort you out!
hope this helps
Joe
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I checked this out. I've already got the registry setting in question, but the zoom bar doesn't do anything in Opera 9.7. So.... (shrug)

mschaffer said:
I have two gripes about the TP2 hardware:
No scroll wheel or D-pad for ease of navigation
Seidio doesn't have a spring-clip holster yet
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3. Location of the power button gets in the way of typing at times. I have the powerkey fix by one of the xda members but its still a pita at times.
I havent really used the zoom bar but its koo. Im with shasarak far as the dpads & games.

Hi All
I have made this mention in another post, but to me at least, what we need is a reg hack that will allow the Zoom Bar to work with more apps, not just Album, Etc.
Now THAT would be worth having.......
Imagine being able to add whatever App you like to the Zoom Bar Active list,
even just to zoom the screen of any app or function would be a bonus too!
Sort of like with the G-Sensor hacks.
Maybe someone will find a way...??
Cheers
Jabberoo

mmafighter077 said:
I Dont know about you guys but I really hate the built in zoom feature on all of the new htc phones. To me it is a waste of space that could have better implemented with a Dpad. I hardly ever use it and it doesnt even work for very many things except the web browser. I see htc messing up all of their new good phones with it.
I see it as a waste of space. I see myself missing a dpad or scroll ball a lot more than I even think about the zoom option.
How do you feel?
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I agree. The zoom bar is retarded and serve 0 purpose at all.

I love the zoom bar. Use it all the time. Especially useful for navigating forums like XDA! Maybe my fingers too fat always cannot hit the number to navigate to the next page, even after double-tap. So always use zoom bar to zoom big big so that I can tap on the link.

Can the Opera be updated in the VZW TP2? I thought it was hardcoded into the ROM.

Seifer1975 said:
I love the zoom bar. Use it all the time. Especially useful for navigating forums like XDA! Maybe my fingers too fat always cannot hit the number to navigate to the next page, even after double-tap. So always use zoom bar to zoom big big so that I can tap on the link.
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yeah that is true but a dpad would make it even easier to select small text w/ out having to zoom in and out all of the time.

I LOVE the zoom bar, but miss the scroll wheel of my Titan and my Clie's. So I'd like both please. the d-pad... eh? Don't really see a need. There is a keyboard with arrow keys if need be.

The d-pad is important for one handed use. Besides, if you want the 'already there' argument, opera already has a built in software zoom bar. and it work just the same.
Coming from the g-1, I really miss the little trackball. It was such an excellent feature to have. It was small precise, and it didn't take up too much room on the device either. I think that would have fit nicely on the tp2.

Related

Probably one of the BEST contact programs and keyboard you will ever use

I found this Contact Manager just today while I was browsing online.
http://pocketcm.com/index.php
It works great on my 8525 and is all touch activated, kind of resembles the iphone. Works nicely. There is also a keyboard program that copies the iphone as well.
Just thought I would share with the community.
- Aaron
alltheway said:
I found this Contact Manager just today while I was browsing online.
http://pocketcm.com/beta.php
It works great on my 8525 and is all touch activated, kind of resembles the iphone. Works nicely. There is also a keyboard program that copies the iphone as well.
Just thought I would share with the community.
- Aaron
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I like it also, but I find it difficult to scroll precisely. Sometimes it goes 10 contacts ahead, sometimes 100!
And it is a litte difficult to really close it.
The keyboard I really like.
There are big threads running in the General section.
pietrucci said:
I like it also, but I find it difficult to scroll precisely. Sometimes it goes 10 contacts ahead, sometimes 100!
And it is a litte difficult to really close it.
The keyboard I really like.
There are big threads running in the General section.
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Sorry I didn't really know where to post it. I guess I should have put it there.
What I figured out is that if you want to close it, you just hit the hang up button and then it closes like with any other program really. And if you want it to scroll slower you just move your finger slower. I've been playing around with it all night and seems to be working out. Remember this is just a BETA version of it. So it has a lot of potential and it moves pretty fast.
There are threads already for it. Please research a bit before posting, Please read rules before posting http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
mushipkw said:
There are threads already for it. Please research a bit before posting, Please read rules before posting http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
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Im sorry...as noted in the above post I already appologized for posting this....thank you for being redundant.
Yep pocketcm is great (checkout the photo viewer) the developer tene is a regular on these forums (check the hacking/general section for the latest updates) also if you check the general/hacking forum you can find a bunch of alternate themes for pocketcm
pietrucci said:
I like it also, but I find it difficult to scroll precisely. Sometimes it goes 10 contacts ahead, sometimes 100!
And it is a litte difficult to really close it.
The keyboard I really like.
There are big threads running in the General section.
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Easy way to close it is to take it out of fullscreen mode. Then you can hit the x-button to close it like any other program.
thanks!
I just want to say big ups to all of you guys. I just recently completed some customizations on my (once boring) 8525. The pocket cm is wonderful and the pocketcm keyboard is a nice touch. I do have one question.
It seems that i cannot send sms' directly from pocket cm. Is there a way that you can sms your contacts directly from the pocket cm?
Thanks
just have to press and hold the send button in pocket cm for like a 2 second count and it sends.
just have to press and hold the send button in pocket cm for like a 2 second count and it sends.
PocketCM it's great, but about keyboard I think that "touchpal" it's better.
link for touchpal is http://www.cootek.com/intro.html

Artemis Touch 4.01 Not keeping time & other bugs

Hi, any one know why my clock constantly slows down and I need to set the time again ? It is not an active sych issue... it just slows down.. looses time..
Everything seems to be working other than that on my arte110....
But.. the touch cube/ flow stuff... would be nice if there was some instructionst on that because I dont see any of that happening on my phone even though I got it set to default in the touch flow settings....
No animated cubes or other stuff inn navigation.... Not sure what it is exactly supposed to look like...
the only animated feature is the contact list and the opera mini , as a page loade it slides in... cool,
But other than that opera mini sucks...
it can hardly search this forum.....
and no tabbed browsing or selecting, copying text...
it is however very fast.
And isnt there some sort of function holding down the buttons to the phone vibrates? Would be nice to know about how that works....
Zoom on the camera doesnt work at 2 mp setting...
media player part of the home screen seems non functional...
And what is this hibernation feature?
BTW, it seems that when my screen is dark the phone stops keeping time...
I hope I am not missing any calls durring this time....
Robert
AntiNSA said:
Hi, any one know why my clock constantly slows down and I need to set the time again ? It is not an active sych issue... it just slows down.. looses time..
Everything seems to be working other than that on my arte110....
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Can't comment on that, mine keeps time quite nicely
But.. the touch cube/ flow stuff... would be nice if there was some instructionst on that because I dont see any of that happening on my phone even though I got it set to default in the touch flow settings....
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The TouchFlo configuration utility clearly lists what you have to do to make it work, the best setting for me is the top to bottom option, never fails
No animated cubes or other stuff inn navigation.... Not sure what it is exactly supposed to look like...
the only animated feature is the contact list and the opera mini , as a page loade it slides in... cool,
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But other than that opera mini sucks...
it can hardly search this forum.....
and no tabbed browsing or selecting, copying text...
it is however very fast.
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considering it's a beta, it's a million times better at browsing the web that Pocket IE. Can't expect everything and surely not from a beta at that.
And isnt there some sort of function holding down the buttons to the phone vibrates? Would be nice to know about how that works....
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The first post to Touch 4.01 defines which hbutton command are set by default. You can add your own extras from the hbutton commands in programs
Zoom on the camera doesnt work at 2 mp setting...
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I don't use my camera much apart from contact photos so again, can't comment
media player part of the home screen seems non functional...
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I use mine EVERY day, works fine, where it says 'launch music player', press it, it'll work just dandy.
And what is this hibernation feature?
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Frees up extra ram, that is all
You just need to take the time to explore the features this ROM has, there are a lot of applications included, some may not be to your taste, and others you'll think are fantastic(like hbutton), if there is a specific application you need to find more about, try searching through the forums or on google, there is a lot of information out there regarding most of the applications, unfortunately we can't expect Meschle to produce a lengthy instruction manual detailing each and every single aspect of his ROM, part of that is the expectation that the people using custom ROM's should be able to figure out the nitty gritty details.
Of course the forums are here to answer questions, but it is also a repository of answers to the questions already asked. The TouchFlo one has come up many times.

[REQ] Fingerfriendly shopping list application

Hi
I am looking for a fingerfriendly shopping list with wvga support. Cannot find any on google or xda when searching.
Think of it like this. Look almost like the settings-tab in tf3d, large icons that you can thumbscroll easily. When hitting one it gets checked or removed optonal. For not confusing scroll with click let there be a longhold to check an item. Just that, simple is beautiful.
robnil said:
Hi
I am looking for a fingerfriendly shopping list with wvga support. Cannot find any on google or xda when searching.
Think of it like this. Look almost like the settings-tab in tf3d, large icons that you can thumbscroll easily. When hitting one it gets checked or removed optonal. For not confusing scroll with click let there be a longhold to check an item. Just that, simple is beautiful.
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I use Upvise for lists and tasks.. also very finger friendly.. overall nice app!
check it out here!
http://www.upvise.com/business/mobiletasks.aspx
hmm interesting, ill check it out! thanks
Handyshopper does well for me, basically you just tell it you have the item as you put it in the trolley and it moves to the next one. Finger scrolls if you need it too.
task2gather. my wife (who has an iphone) and Inupdate each others list over the air, brilliant if either of us syddenly remembers something.
Kangburra said:
Handyshopper does well for me
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Same for me. Is use it since years in Palm, and now in Blackstone. There are also settings to enlarge font and/or to make multiselection for a more finger friendly UI
You can find it HERE
Upvise looks nice..but can it be used offline?
Have a look here http://www.fehnerssoftware.co.uk/myshoppinglist.shtml
A nice basic shopping list.... thats finger friendly... 50p
+1 for HandyShopper
Can i fingerscroll in handyshoppr?
nurps said:
Can i fingerscroll in handyshoppr?
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yes, if you configure it
My personal favorite
My personal favorite is MyShopi; only disadvantages are that you cannot sync over the internet or easily import a list from an sms (my wife always smses me what to buy at the grocery store).
Wemelboy said:
My personal favorite is MyShopi; only disadvantages are that you cannot sync over the internet or easily import a list from an sms (my wife always smses me what to buy at the grocery store).
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I dont see the Windows Mobile version on the authors site.

[DEV] [12-3-08 ] Manila Style Gaming Preview [NEW DEMO]

hey guys... me and I3v5y
have been working on a ui for gaming on the HD... here is our template.... but as i do not have my HD with me nor does he... we need to find out how it works....
please post a screen shot and report problems.... the faster you do so the quicker we can get this project done....
Where are we in Development?
We have finished Ui development and are starting the game development...
*UPDATE*
New TEST VERSION
Download here: http://cid-cddbf77985693632.skydriv...A files/Programs/ManilaGames/base.Demo.02.exe
guys we need to know!!!!
does it work smooth....
almost no description
no screenshots (you're asking us to post some, yet you're the developer)
a .exe (which to my knowledge wont work on mobile phones, i dont have a WM-powered mobile phone but i've read that install files are in .cab)
6 posts makes you think you're new and therefore many ppl won't download it and trust you.
so either its a virus and the-like or its real but you provided almost nothing that makes us think its 'real'.
topic reported so mods can take a view
Edit: took a look at your other posts and it looks like you're being serious. So sorry if i interrupted your topic with my (probably) false-indication
Edit2: nvm, its real. a mod made this exe. so again im sorry for the false statement and the report
for people reporting this thread
all is good....just checked posts look here if still unsure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3114391#post3114391
there is nothing wrong or "fishy" with this thread.
thank you
thank you.... i think????
lol
so can someone give me a report on how it runs on the device???? and a screenshot?
The app runs smoothly on my HD (IT ram 1.14): see screenshot attached.
hey, apart the game: what about making it as a launcher too (as touchlaunch or M2DAppLauncher? it seems perfect! and those apps seems to be dead...
I tried your game and till now it works very well. The touchscreen reaction is very good. But on the top in the left corner of the slider is one litle blue line. I marked this with a red square on the second sreenshot.
thanks for that blackmonkey we will try to fix it but for now we need to get the actual game running
No problem...I´m waiting for more..good luck
New Demo Version check it out at the first post...
please post screenshots and tell about your experience....
ok i got demo 2 up and running,
let's say im at the home icon and want to go to stock. when i click on stock it shows the home icon. the sliding bar at the bottom wont go where my thumb is. it does follow the movement if i slide it over the screen (i hope you get what i mean)
also ermm the first time when im on a new screen it shows the icon for a very short time when i press the screen.
please post a screenshot i don't understand....
I pressed the stock button with my thumb on that pic.
oh i see...
yes at the moment it is made for sliding use only.... so you willl have to drag the slider from tab to tab.....
Maybe you will see an actual game release tommarow... nothing advanced... maybe a tick tac toe game....
but I will get the helicopter game finished
ahh cool, when i release my finger it does go to that spot so it does work like that the slider is just not sticking to my finger on the spot i press the screen. can't wait to see a game on this it runs smootly
Get read for the first actual game release tommarow!!!!!!!!
Can someone explain exactly what this is?
OK well the idea is to create games and applications that keep the manila style look....
so if you want to get to the settings portion of a game... you have the tf3d thing at the bottom of every app and game....
understand?
Ok. It wont intergrate into TF3D, it will just look like it?
first of all, fantastic work. i have a couple questions.
1, is it possible to get this to use the manila resources so whatever theme we're using is also used by the game?
2, how hard would it be to port across a few emulators into this? while things like morphgear work fine, the are hardly finger friendly. i'm thinking running game on the first tab, list of roms on the second, maybe in the style of contacts or music player so case pictures can be added. and then settings on the third tabs. that sort of thing anyway. how feasable is that?
i'm personally of the opinion that the more things that have a unified look the better so i think what you're doing is great.
many thanks
mass

XDA 2013 Beta Theme is Now Live! [Comments Thread]

Today we are announcing the public beta of the new "2013" theme for the XDA forums. This theme is in active development, though for the most part it should be suitable for daily use. You can access it via the "Style Chooser" in the bottom left corner of most pages.
Please note: this theme is not bug free. It's possible that you will notice some funky behavior while using it.
Some of the primary benefits/features:
When we finish optimizing, it will be significantly faster than the existing "XDA 2010" theme.
Optimized for displays 1280 width screen resolution
We've added a sidebar to update you on PMs and subscribed threads/forums. This is collapsible for users when reading threads.
Tabbed home page which will default to showing your subscriptions to give you easy-access to the forums you care about most.
Enhanced device information pages (for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1533) that will show specs and root instructions for some devices.
Plus many other little additions and improvements.
Most of the user-facing changes are cosmetic. We created XDA 2013 as a platform for much more significant enhancements to the site, which will be rolling out over the next few months.
Please use this thread to post your comments and suggestions. If you have bugs to report, please post your thoughts in this thread.
Thank you for your help!
Just wondering, is there a place where we users can send in our device's info, so that the people working on it won't have so much work?
Cheers for all the effort put into it! Looks awesome!
Use it sice a week and its very fast. the only problem is the thanks-expand-arrow, he is too wide away from the text
Admin Edit: I made the "expand" text clickable also. - js1999
Edit: Thanks Admin
Awesome loving the new refreshed look of the site
just a suggestion.
The "online" symbol should be more green as currently difference between offline(black) and online(green) is very less noticeable
I really hate that there is so much crammed everyhwere, the right side portal stories are annoying, if I want portal stories I click on "portal"
I think the 2010 version is better, some of the fonts are cooler on the 2013 version but there is just way too much crammed on the screen at once.
sweet, trying it now.
This is defiantly different, looks clean, futuristic. I like it, will take sometime for my eyes to adjust to it tho.
orangekid said:
I really hate that there is so much crammed everyhwere, the right side portal stories are annoying, if I want portal stories I click on "portal"
I think the 2010 version is better, some of the fonts are cooler on the 2013 version but there is just way too much crammed on the screen at once.
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You can close the sidebar if you don't really like it.
So far, the only thing I don't really like about this is the fact that if you click on a device (e.g. the HD2) all of the subforums appear. I understand that outside of the HD2 this won't be a major problem, but it still looks a bit clunky. Also, on normal zoom (i.e. I've pressed ctrl+0) I get a scroll bar thing along the bottom? Seems a bit odd, probably just a little glitch. Don't have it outside of when I'm replying though.
Needs are darker font system wide. Post_bit fonts are too light. That's the only thing that I see that I would change at this point.
But, that's just the VBulletin Admin in me coming out. LOL.
the_scotsman said:
You can close the sidebar if you don't really like it.
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I only see the ability to close the sidebar while viewing a post and not forums. Is there a option Im missing?
I like the look but would like the ability to collapse the sidebar.
eollie said:
I only see the ability to close the sidebar while viewing a post and not forums. Is there a option Im missing?
I like the look but would like the ability to collapse the sidebar.
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It's up the top right in the forum view too.
I think he meant the Forum Home view. There is no choice to collapse it on the main All Forums page.
Hmm I must not be special enough to get that option yet .
How about an inverted/dark/black theme for AMOLED devices when people don't use Tapatalk?
Oh my, this is quite nice.
The new theme is kinda awesome
But the page goes out of my screen so i have scroll a lil bit ... !!
Can we maybe have an option to only remove the portal posts from the side bar but instead display ALL messages and subscribed threads / fora?
Because clicking on "View all messages" takes you to the PM page. I'd rather have them in that list (best would be if it takes as much place as available ) (same for threads and fora)
if possible remove xda portal sidebar......if other guys agrees on it

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