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I've been playing around with all the WM6 rom for my trinity and found that just about all of them have a "battery drain" problem....
Anyone, anywhere has a soltion to this?
Thanks
Dag
daghood said:
I've been playing around with all the WM6 rom for my trinity and found that just about all of them have a "battery drain" problem....
Anyone, anywhere has a soltion to this?
Thanks
Dag
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Well try to keep your bluetooth active only when needed. same applies to wifi and gps.
Other than that some people have suggested that original radio is less power consuming so if you have upgraded it maybe you can consider going back to standard!!
For me the phone with periodical use of bluetooth, wifi, gps and about half an hour of talking time in calls, can last easily on two days!!!
The same
I have the same problem. For "steladamo": Of course I have a GPS, BT and WiFi turned off.
In such a circumstance my batery drains after one day whereas WM5 kept my battery alive for several days.
Any solution?
Is there any tool how to log system actions? I'd like to see what my WM do.
Thx!
Just upgraded to wm6, found out that the incoming beam (infrared) is turned on by default...and that is a power-user...no probs after I switched it off...
Have the same issue.
Infrared was turned on also in my case. Turned it off, let's see how long my device will last now.
Thnx anywayz.
How can you tell infrared is on or not?
By 3rd party tool?
do you try last radio 1.46.00.11 or 1.46.30.11 ?
cafpeter said:
How can you tell infrared is on or not?
By 3rd party tool?
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Yea, how do you do that?
Settings --> Connections --> Beam
Or with the cab which allows to have 10 buttons in commanager
just flash 1.46 radio ...
same problems with both radio 1.41 and 1.46
wm6 and the battery lasts one day, without beam, wifi, or bluetooth on
Turned off infrared. Switched synchronize every X minutes to manual outside office hours. Made a lot of difference for me.
UMTS band ???
Go to settings and choose phone icon then go to the band tab don't use auto but just put it to gsm....utms eats power....
Where is the 10-button com cab?
Does that work with the ax3l rom?
I can confirm that the AX3L_WM6_WWE_v2.0.8.1 rom has had the battrey leaking problem resolved!
So if your not using this rom, flash it now!
WWWeed said:
I can confirm that the AX3L_WM6_WWE_v2.0.8.1 rom has had the battrey leaking problem resolved!
So if your not using this rom, flash it now!
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I confirm that with heavy use I can still "drain" the battery every day.
Anyone has the CAB file for the Communication Manager with the IR Beam on/off button in an HTC Touch style ?
I can see that NBD has it in his Wizard ROM
Hi,
Did a quick assessment in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319278
Here it is for your convenience:
Here is a guide from my recent observation.
It is based on WM5 using BatterieStatus.cap, would be great if someone can do similar to WM6 in comparison.
I also used :
HTCustom1.7 to turn off HSDPA
Turned off Bluetooth and Infrared Beam
(I did discount short burst when app switching)
Idle, screen off = around 21mA
Idle, screen on, low brightness (3 notch from left) = around 62mA
As above, connected to 3G, No applications running using 3G = around 64mA
Active browsing, basic sites, 3G, around 300mA - 400mA
Active browsing, graphic intensive sites, 3G, around 400mA - 600mA
Active browsing, HSDPA on, basic site 500mA - 600mA
Passive browsing, IE open, no action, 3G, drops to 68mA
TomTom using inbuilt GPS, waiting for GPS lock, 180mA
Idle, screen on, low brightness, but 'Receive all incoming beams' (IRDA receive on) also 62mA!!!
Audio call, 3G, 350mA
Mediaplayer, streaming video from Internet, around 600mA.
I believe 600mA is around the ceiling.
Some calculations: Standard Batterie is 1600mAH.
So total idle/standby time is about 1600mAH/20mA = 80hours or 3.3 days
Total call time is 1600mAH/350mA = 4.3 hours approx
Total surf time is 1600mAH/400mA = 4 hours.
This lines up with my usage patterns, idle, screen off most of the day, usage about 30 mins browsing every day, batterie last about 2.5 days.
(Hobby engineer hehe)
Nice man!
And this does also fit into my calling pattern. I have to load my battery every evening, but I also call for about 2 hours per day. Use wireless mail/calander/contactsynchronization with outlook and Windows Live mail. And regular use of some other features.
So like i said in other posts, the drain issue has probably also to do with the expectation people have from the standbytime of their device on heavy usage.
I want to enable the gps module of my mda compact iii permant. The problem is, that tomtom enables the module at startup, but if I exit the application, tomto disables the module. It tooks to much time for the gps sync.
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Rushmore
sorry, no chance. If there is no software, wich is using the GPS, the GPS urns off.
That's okay, because with GPS on, your device will run 4-5 hours, only.
you can use fransons gpsgate
what i usually do is just press the red 'End call' button, this 'minimises' TomTom, so it is still running in the background, thus still connected to GPS
Realflo said:
sorry, no chance. If there is no software, wich is using the GPS, the GPS urns off.
That's okay, because with GPS on, your device will run 4-5 hours, only.
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after walking with memory map on, after 2 hours the battery went down only 8% and thats with the cpu overclocked, I reckon it would last a good day with gps always on...
could use visual GPSce its a small free program that just uses the gps to get a siginal and gives details about your position, its not cpu demanding at all and will run in the background with hardly any drain on the battery
Has anyone tested how long the battery lasts when using GPS?
PaulusUK said:
Has anyone tested how long the battery lasts when using GPS?
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I can't imagine any reason to just run the GPS.. What context? Car navigation? GPS Tracking? What?
The Tilt used about 120mA just for the GPS, I suspect the TP2 would be very close to that.
As a handheld GPS for walking.
I use a program called Memory Map which has terrain maps and plots routes, waypoints etc.
The GPS would need to be on all the time, but the screen could be off and just turned on when I need to glance at the route/map
I used to get just under 2 hours from my Diamond and about 2 1/2 hours from my m700 - so I had to carry some external batteries
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As a handheld GPS for walking.
I use a program called Memory Map which has terrain maps and plots routes, waypoints etc.
The GPS would need to be on all the time, but the screen could be off and just turned on when I need to glance at the route/map
I used to get just under 2 hours from my Diamond and about 2 1/2 hours from my m700 - so I had to carry some external batteries
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For thst sort of usage, I'd honestly suggest getting a bluetooth GPS unit. Does MUCH better under cover (trees, urban 'trees', etc) and takes a huge load off of the device.
I've gone on 3-4 hour hikes using TrackMe, which sounds like a similar program, and was only down 20% on battery. That'd get me WAY more battery life than my legs had in 'em.
Good luck, I'll check out Memory Map. I'm a geogeek, I collect all sorts of GPS related software.
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Has anyone tested how long the battery lasts when using GPS?
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I have a question regarding GPS. Once you've started using GPS, do you have to manually turn it off (like WiFi or BlueTooth) or does it cycle off automatically?
hempel said:
I have a question regarding GPS. Once you've started using GPS, do you have to manually turn it off (like WiFi or BlueTooth) or does it cycle off automatically?
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it will turn off automatically when you exit the program
khaytsus said:
For thst sort of usage, I'd honestly suggest getting a bluetooth GPS unit. Does MUCH better under cover (trees, urban 'trees', etc) and takes a huge load off of the device.
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Wouldn't bluetooth communication also drain the power?
Which would be worse - the BT or the GPS working?
TP2 GPS battery usage
My TP2 lasted 2.5 hours using Memory-Map in full mapping mode, where I had to plot map I created on PC.
Tunc
superflyboy said:
Wouldn't bluetooth communication also drain the power?
Which would be worse - the BT or the GPS working?
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erm... Perhaps not you, but I answered this very question somewhere else already.. anyway...
Bluetooth is very low power. And obviously if I'm saying the GPS uses hordes of power and to use a Bluetooth device because of power, the internal GPS is worse (much worse). How much worse? Same workload, same software, BT vs internal GPS on the Kaiser (same GPS as TP2) was a difference of 100mAh. 8.3% more battery drain per hour.
Bluetooth GPS also has other advantages...
Faster fix
More accurate
More sensitive
More options (in terms of which GPS you get and what features IT has)
Disadvantages
One more small thing to carry around
In terms of features, I keep saying I'm going to upgrade my BT GPS to the Columbus V900 (or other like models). It'll act like a normal BT GPS, or self-logger to a memory card, even a 'stealth' mode which logs a point every N minutes which you could effectively let run for a week without running out of battery and years before filling a 1G memory card.. Also you can attach voice notes to a coordinate, or 'mark' a spot with a button push, both of which you could refer to later by viewing the resulting data in Google Earth or other means.
Is there anyone who use defy GPS daily? Can you share which rom or any GPS tweak to make defy more accurate and responsive for navigation?
I have been testing defy GPS, it seems like its rather not accurate to pinpoint location. Accuracy show 4-9m, but often real position is off by 30-200m. For navigation, it's response time rather slow plus the inaccuracy makes it not reliable. My old windows mobile P3600 gives precise position when put beside defy while navigating.
For info, I have disable wifi in location setting. I know I have successfully download supl data. With data enabled, I can lock under 10 sec.
This inaccuracy had been a problem for CM7. I have tested stock froyo and gingerbread, and problem still there.
So, can anyone help here? Do you have the same problem, if not please share your rom version or tweak..
I've used mine a lot for gps, i just make sure to download agps data with an app called GPS test as soon as i can, then if i'm not moving too much from where i stopped gps for the last time it takes very little to lock.
I'm on CM7 and it never disappointed me in Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and France.
Any GPS fix i've tried did nothing good for me.
My defy lock fast. What bothers me is the accuracy.
Google maps shows accuracy 4-9m, but real position is off sometimes by 200m.
Sometimes it correct itself, other time, even if I waited for a few minutes, it didn't show my real position.
And I'm sure I disable Use Wireless Networks in location setting.
So how is your accuracy?
Relly good, thanks
Seriously, i've seen this mentioned quite often in the CM7 thread, but it never happened to me.
As said before, keeping agps data pretty updated to my position or close enough has always been enough for me.
Good luck in finding a solution that works for you!
GPS has been working perfectly for me under any Rom. Stock GB, CM7 and Stock Froyo.
In CM7 it locks pretty fast, always under 10 secs, after a few secs accuracy down to 3m. Works really good.
I only have GPS Status to download from time to time accurate AGPS data and that's all.
Thanks for the reply..
I have tried almost everything.
Tuning gpsconfig.xml and location.cfg, clear agps cache, restart before testing many value one by one. Tried many stock rom, take GPS files from milestone and milestone2 and the GPS still inconsistent.
Sometimes its accurate, but after turn off GPS for a few second, turn on again, its showing wrong position with accuracy shown as 4-9m, waited for some minutes, and still wrong. Sometimes its accurate for a few test, but after a few minutes, turn on GPS again, its showing wrong position again.
Tried also calibrate compass, even remove the compass driver, but still error.
There is a possibility of multipath error in GPS (bouncing signal from surrounding), but with easily lock to 5-6 satellites with 10-12 satellites in view, I suppose this can nullify error, as real for positioning, we only needed 4 satellites.
I hope there is someone out there know fix for this..
use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953630
Maybe it helps
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use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953630
Maybe it helps
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Already tried.. even tested various value in gps.conf. No good..
Thanks.
bobo9900 said:
Is there anyone who use defy GPS daily? Can you share which rom or any GPS tweak to make defy more accurate and responsive for navigation?
I have been testing defy GPS, it seems like its rather not accurate to pinpoint location. Accuracy show 4-9m, but often real position is off by 30-200m. For navigation, it's response time rather slow plus the inaccuracy makes it not reliable. My old windows mobile P3600 gives precise position when put beside defy while navigating.
For info, I have disable wifi in location setting. I know I have successfully download supl data. With data enabled, I can lock under 10 sec.
This inaccuracy had been a problem for CM7. I have tested stock froyo and gingerbread, and problem still there.
So, can anyone help here? Do you have the same problem, if not please share your rom version or tweak..
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MIUI rom allows you to enter your preferred satellite under ph settings ^^
Then use gps status app to manage a-gps state - I get anywhere from 10 - 30m accuracy
You are not alone
GPS accuracy on my Defy has been a concern since I bought it. Just like yours, it locks to 4-6 satellites and claims that it's accurate to 4 meters, but my real position is usually a block away. Other symthoms are:
- Accuracy improves with speed and becomes very good when traveling by car, very poor when still or just walking. The correlation between accuracy and speed should be the other way around...
- If there are more than 6 satellites in view, it locks to a maximum of six and then starts "jumping" from one set of satellites to another each two seconds or so. It does so even if the telephone is completely still. I think It should stay with the same satellites while not moving.
As you, I also tried all and every GPS fix script under the sun to no good, even filled a bug report for CM7 back in the day with no luck. It seems that a lot of people out there have perfectly working GPS (o so it seems).
This issue is quite strange though. I have a green lens Defy, and my wife has a Red lens one. We bought them several months apart and they both have the same accuracy issue, so it doesn't seem to be related to a bad production batch. I wonder if its related to geographic position (maybe it works worse in some countries, somehow)
Hopefully its a software issue and can be fixed.
I dont have this issue. Ive actually been sort of surprised at the accuracy of the GPS with CM7... it locks on within seconds (vs the minutes with Froyo). Almost instantaneous with WIFI and GPS on. And it is always accurate. Sorry to hear about your GPS troubles. It could be a hardware problem also?
Hi,
I am planning to use Endomondo for skiing for the whole day (09:00-16:00) to track my progress.
Two questions:
1) To save battery I will switch to Airplane Mode. GPS accuracy will be ok?
2) Endomondo have a setting to save battery. Dont know what it means. It says that accuracy wont change. Strange. Has anybody tried to ski all day long without charging with Endomondo?
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bat0nas said:
Hi,
I am planning to use Endomondo for skiing for the whole day (09:00-16:00) to track my progress.
Two questions:
1) To save battery I will switch to Airplane Mode. GPS accuracy will be ok?
2) Endomondo have a setting to save battery. Dont know what it means. It says that accuracy wont change. Strange. Has anybody tried to ski all day long without charging with Endomondo?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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1. No. GPS is disabled when you are in airplane mode. Mobile Data connections (3G, wifi) and your phone connection (you will not be able to make or receive phone calls) when you're in airplane mode.
2. I don't know what endomondo does specifically, but most GPS apps, when they say they save battery, do so by recording your location at longer intervals. For example, the app, in a battery saving mode, may record your location every 8 or 10 seconds, instead of 4 or 5 seconds.
I use my Galaxy Nexus while bicycling, I find that 7 or 8 seconds produces pretty accurate GPS trace (To record where I've been) but it depends if you are surrounded by buildings or lots of trees, which would prevent your device from reading the satellites and getting an accurate device.
Overall, I'd advise you to experiment, 2-3 times for an hour or so for each setting in endomondo (the battery-saver) and non-battery saver and see what's the difference. Don't use airplane mode, you won't be able to get an accurate GPS measurement.
Thanks!!!!!!!
Will try what you suggested.
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Actually, it's not. Turning on airplane mode leaves GPS on, at least on a stock Galaxy Nexus. I just tested this. Makes sense, since a GPS receiver does not transmit.
Takes longer to get a position fix, though, without AGPS. Accuracy seems unaffected, though I haven't tested that thoroughly. Just give it a minute or two to lock on to all the satellites.
Also, you can turn back on Wifi in airplane mode as well. Not really relevant here, though.
If it takes time to catch the satelites its a bit risky to lose gps once I will step into gondola to go up the mountain.
Just tested and it really took time to lock on sats without AGPS
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