Develop Bugs

Theme

just to make sure... If i want a theme- put it on sd card, rename it to update, apply update, and reboot??? It doesn't work for me. It stays stuck on the G1 screen. Does it have something to do with rom i'm using: update-cm-4.1.9.2-signed???
Just in case... Yes its rooted, I've even tried other HERO ROMS(and i have successfull), but 4 some reason I don't know how to apply a theme. And YES!! I'm a n00b.
Thanx in advance

yes your process is correct, BUT you have to make sure the theme you apply is matched with your rom. if you have cm 4.1.9.2 rom, you have to make sure you get the 4.1.9.2 compataible theme. also some themes may take up to 10 minutes to fully boot up.

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the theme must be compatible with the rom like for 4.1.9.2 the theme has to be based off of the 4.1.9.2 theme template. the same goes for any rom and theme. as long as they are compatible then there shouldn't be any problems. if you want a bigger choice of themes then the stable roms are better.
but yeah, check to see if your theme is compatible with 4.1.9.2, if it isn't then that is the problem.
also you have the process correct.

This should really be in the Q&A section, it seems you haven't really read much of what themes are about. You can only flash themes made SPECIFICALLY for the rom you are running (In your case cm 4.1.9.2) Since I don't see too many themes around made for that rom, I'll assume you're flashing a theme not made for the rom this will cause the G1 screen loop.
To get back to your old system, just flash the rom OR the theme template again and you should be good to go. Next time match the theme versions with rom versions before you go flashing.

Dfanzz said:
just to make sure... If i want a theme- put it on sd card, rename it to update, apply update, and reboot??? It doesn't work for me. It stays stuck on the G1 screen. Does it have something to do with rom i'm using: update-cm-4.1.9.2-signed???
Just in case... Yes its rooted, I've even tried other HERO ROMS(and i have successfull), but 4 some reason I don't know how to apply a theme. And YES!! I'm a n00b.
Thanx in advance
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First, even though your question is about a THEME, it's still a question and should go in the Q&A section.
In response, your theme MUST be compatible with your rom. So if the theme you are trying is not CM 4.1.9.2 compatible, then you COULD get problems.
EDIT: DAMN, did it really take me so long that 4 people answered before I did? geez lol

Fast guns around here, I think he gets the point though :]

slow pokes =)

Just to clarify to further help you understand, a theme is composed of many of the same files as the original ROM. However, this time around they have been modified to look like what you see as the theme. Therefore, when you install a theme, you are actually replacing those files with the ones with different looks. That is why you need to make sure your theme is made for the ROM, because different programs and files, chances are, will not work and will result in a bootloop.

SPL causeing problem with themes

I figured I would bring this up here so developers can look in to this, and see if there really is an issue and why. I recently had a theme that worked on one phone and not on another. It would get stuck at the G1 start screen.
The only difference was that the phone that worked had haykuro's SPL that is needed to run hero ROMs, the other had the SPL with the version that ended in -3000. Both SPLs have the skating androids screen.
Both had:
Cyan 4.0.4
Cyan recovery 1.4
App2sd
I later flashed the haykuro SPL, and tried again, it worked fine.
I used a spare memory card to flash the theme, so both phones were reading the same file to apply the theme, and the same file was used after applying the new SPL and then worked.
I first posted over at Android community. here is the link just in case I forgot anything here. Hopefully I provided all the info needed.
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f7/spl-cause-theme-to-not-work-25160/

Would it be enough to just add a disclaimer to theme threads stating that SPL 1.33.2005 is required? I think that the majority has already gone over to that SPL.

BlackElvis79 said:
Would it be enough to just add a disclaimer to theme threads stating that SPL 1.33.2005 is required? I think that the majority has already gone over to that SPL.
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Actually, I think most users of the Cyanogen mod have NOT switched over. Many of us have never loaded a Hero ROM, and maybe never will. But, I have had this problem a couple of times that the theme makers do not take the SPL issue into effect, and their theme simply will not work on a phone with HardSPL or EngineeringSPL.
Theme makers should make themselves aware of the size limitations and take them into account. Or, they should make it clear that their theme REQUIRES the Haykuro SPL. But they will be limiting their audience in that case.

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Theme makers should make themselves aware of the size limitations and take them into account.
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Thing is, the theme was just a basic theme, it did not add any extra programs or the new launcher or anything other than cosmetic changes. The theme worked on the older builds, pre cyan 4.0, and I asked the guy to port it.

Marine6680 said:
Thing is, the theme was just a basic theme, it did not add any extra programs or the new launcher or anything other than cosmetic changes. The theme worked on the older builds, pre cyan 4.0, and I asked the guy to port it.
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How big was the theme? Were you coming over from a different theme? Did you wipe before applying the theme? If you did wipe, did you also wipe the ext partition? Afaik most themes will fit ok on a regular phone.

Coming from stock, no wipe, theme file size 14mb.

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Coming from stock, no wipe.
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And the size of the theme was?
Also, did your theme include any extra mods? e.g. loccy's browser, advanced launcher etc.?
I'm about to go to work, but maybe someone could run this theme through the apk optimizer from the dev thread? If not, upload it and I'll do it(not sure when that'll be).

jonnybueno said:
And the size of the theme was?
Also, did your theme include any extra mods? e.g. loccy's browser, advanced launcher etc.?
I'm about to go to work, but maybe someone could run this theme through the apk optimizer from the dev thread? If not, upload it and I'll do it(not sure when that'll be).
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14mb and no extras, cosmetic only. I applied the new SPL and got it running, just thought I would mention the problem so people would be aware.

some themes do add extra things into system/app and that can cause the problem
especially since cyan's roms already are near the limit (he has gone over a couple times)
so if you add just a couple of things like the HTC_IME.apk the HTCMusic.apk and some widgets to system/app it can overload it.

beagz said:
some themes do add extra things into system/app and that can cause the problem
especially since cyan's roms already are near the limit (he has gone over a couple times)
so if you add just a couple of things like the HTC_IME.apk the HTCMusic.apk and some widgets to system/app it can overload it.
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Well this didn't add anything like that so I don't know. Kind of sucks that not everyone can run the new SPL, and some people have issues with ROMs and themes.

The theme size was 14mb??! Most likely it was just too big for your phone. Meaning that one phone just didnt have enough space for the whole theme to fit, so the whole theme wasnt copied over which lead to a boot loop.
This is not the fault of the Dev. this is just a case where the phone with haykuros spl had more space for themes..and the other didnt.
Stericson

Stericson said:
The theme size was 14mb??! Most likely it was just too big for your phone. Meaning that one phone just didnt have enough space for the whole theme to fit, so the whole theme wasnt copied over which lead to a boot loop.
This is not the fault of the Dev. this is just a case where the phone with haykuros spl had more space for themes..and the other didnt.
Stericson
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Yeah, I don't blame the dev, just think people should be aware of the issue.

The new SPL is as easy as flashing a ROM correct? I've been trying to find out as much info on updating mine as possible before I do. I've read if done wrong, bricked phone. I've read threads that give some weird steps, that I really wouldn't think are necessary. I have the newest radio version and I already checked the PVT and I'm good to go. So to update all I would need to do is flash the new SPL right? Any special procedures I should do before I brick my phone? Thanks

Checking for PVT is the only real extra step, the rest is just like flashing a ROM. As long as you are PVT you are fine, just don't interrupt the process, unlike flashing a ROM if you mess up the SPL its bricked good.

Custom ROMs with a2sd and Sense downloadable widgets-issue

It appears the "extra" HTC widgets, available for download through the add-widget interface in Sense (Notes, Today in history etc) do not work on ROMs (Pays, Modaco..) that are a2sd and have dalvik cache on the SD too (seem to work with a stock ROM where a2sd have been pushed later).
A small thing it might be, I'm still looking for a solution. A history buff, "Today in history" is completely and totally addictive I NEED MY FIX!
What I've tried so far without success is to install the widget through the add-widget interface, manually acquiring the apk and installing it that way, modifying a ROM and dropping the apk in system/app (hoping it being installed in the phone memory that way would somehow help). My guess is that this does not work because these widgets needs the dalvik cache to be internally.
So, any idea for a workaround except flashing a stock ROM? Input would be much welcome.
Mac

Okay, I am going to be extremely rude and bump my own thread (mods spank me if I'm bad). Still looking for a solution to this, enlightment, a stfu n00b, whatever C'mon, with all the great people on this forum at someone must be able to shed some light, be it bright and shiny or dark and gloomy?
Mac

Maybe if we include the .apk's from first install of the rom it might work. I'd be willing to test. Provide me with the .apk's lol.

Was there any outcome to this, im having the same problem on Villians ROM.
Its great but its missing the HTC Stocks app and widget which I used to love.
HELP

some people just post threads without thinking lol has htc released a rom yet? nooooo so there are no widgets to download cuz htc hasnt made them yet lol

[request]Searching a HowTo for Skinning Swype

Hi,
Today my Defy arrived
Now I have read many threads about the phone and the firmware, but soneones making me confused and other ones doesnt answer my questtions.
So, what I want to know is:
1. Wich is the really latest firmware for the Defy with the red lense? Done
2. when Im going to install CM7, must be flashed an stock froyo rom before? Done
3. because swype is preinstalled in the firmware, how can i update it to the latest version? Done
4. how can i make my own swype theme?
I think thats all (for now )
Greetings

I'll only answer to the ones that I know the answer...
2. The instructions say that you should. Also, from what I read, every tutorial says that you should go to stock. Also, a wipe could be advisable (not to inherit problems and bad settings from the previous ROM)
3. You can get it from the official site. As far as I've noticed CM7 doesn't come with Swype.
Hopefully someone else answers the other two questions.
Have a nice day!

And I'll take the opportunity to ask a few somewhat related noobie questions:
"the Defy with the red lens"
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I've seen a few mentions of different lens colours. What is this? (link to explanation is fine) ETA: Found it myself. Really stupid to ask. Bottom line ATM seems to be that for phones recently manufactured the lens colour is not a reliable indicator of camera module used.
"every tutorial says that you should go to stock" (before flashing)
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Doesn't this mean that you don't need to do anything special (maybe wipe everything, but maybe not that important?) when you flash a new ROM into the phone for the first time?
Or would you still need to first flash a plain stock ROM if your phone came with some telco-provided crappy stuff in the ROM, before flashing a custom ROM?
(Purely hypothetical question for me.)

Bumping this, because I am getting to closer to actually start rooting around (hah!) in the innards of my phone, and I keep wondering about this:
Aspsusa said:
Doesn't this mean that you don't need to do anything special (maybe wipe everything, but maybe not that important?) when you flash a new ROM into the phone for the first time?
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So do I need to flash _another_ stock ROM before I switch to cyanogen or whatever, if my phone is a virgin that came with the stock nordic rom (moto_version.34.177.5.MB525.retail.en.ND/jorem_U3_3.4.2_177-5)?
It somehow seems redundant to me to flash another stock to my phone when I already have a stock froyo (without blur even) on it.
BTW, given the focus of this forum you are all being very very kind to us noobs. Upthread I asked a really really really stupid question (I'll see if I can edit out), and nobody threw rocks at me .
I am still wondering though whether anyone can recommend an alternative forum more suited to Really Basic Questions?

Just root, install second init for recovery, then flash cyanogen...
If you click devices at their website, you can grab the latest nightly ROM, and you will also find the wiki, which has a step by step on how to do everything.
It's really simple, just keep glued too the instructions.
Good luck
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Bumping this, because I am getting to closer to actually start rooting around (hah!) in the innards of my phone, and I keep wondering about this:
So do I need to flash _another_ stock ROM before I switch to cyanogen or whatever, if my phone is a virgin that came with the stock nordic rom (moto_version.34.177.5.MB525.retail.en.ND/jorem_U3_3.4.2_177-5)?
It somehow seems redundant to me to flash another stock to my phone when I already have a stock froyo (without blur even) on it.
BTW, given the focus of this forum you are all being very very kind to us noobs. Upthread I asked a really really really stupid question (I'll see if I can edit out), and nobody threw rocks at me .
I am still wondering though whether anyone can recommend an alternative forum more suited to Really Basic Questions?
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It is recommended as a precaution for a failsafe install but you can install CM7 on any stock 2.2 or above rom.
Sent from my MB525 using Tapatalk

ryan8r said:
It is recommended as a precaution for a failsafe install but you can install CM7 on any stock 2.2 or above rom.
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Took the words right out of my mind...
Sometimes I skip right past the important stuff. Lol

hi,
Everythinbg excepted 4. is solved by my own.
For now i just need to know hox to make my own Swypw skin.
BTW: I hate Threadhooligans

MrGentlemen said:
BTW: I hate Threadhooligans
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Mean me? Wanna fight?
BTW, it would be good if you'd change the topic back, or put the old topic in parenthesis to the new one or something. Something like
[request]Swype-skinning ([solved]stock froyo first & red lens latest)
might be good
I was wondering why I was subscribed to a thread about swype-skinning, as it couldn't be further from my interests, but never mind that - there's good info in this thread not related to swype.

Aspsusa said:
BTW, it would be good if you'd change the topic back, or put the old topic in parenthesis to the new one or something. Something like
[request]Swype-skinning ([solved]stock froyo first & red lens latest)
might be good
I was wondering why I was subscribed to a thread about swype-skinning, .
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Exactly. I was confused, and for an instant, lost in space.. Lol
You big thread hooligan, Mr gentleman
Edit:
To answer your question,
You should probably check with Swype to see if skinning is even capable with their app... (or potentially even allowed)
To my knowledge, skinning Swype is uncharted territory...the app is in beta still.
Some advanced knowledge of Android would be required to hack, disassemble, and recompile any themes for it.

[Q] Wants to build a ROM, directions please?

Hey all! I just want something to do in my free time and to get something for us Locked Verizon users. I just want to build off of the Cola ROM, kinda like how the guy who made IT-ROM did (Sorry for not remembering your name!)
My first guess would be to set everything up from the fresh Cola rom with a blank SD card mounted while on airplane mode, then make a Nandroid when ready, but there's also one thing I would like to ask along those lines.
What would I do with apps to replace stock vanilla apps, I found some stock MIUI apps that work outside of MIUI itself. Would I just replace them on Root Explorer or anything similar then reboot? I just want to keep things clean instead of having multiple similar apps.
This is going to be quite a slick looking ROM you guys, I promise.
P.S. Does anybody know of a good clone, or even a port of the MIUI Messaging app? There was one called exMessenger from the developers of exDialer, but it was suddenly abandoned, which was going to be a part of my ROM.
EDIT: I also just want to mention, it's not meant to be an MiUI look-alike, MiUI just has a really sleek look to it which is what I'm aiming for, not a clone.