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Not sure if this is a design function but everytime I turn the device off it returns to Today's screen.
Actually even when I toggle to screen in WMP and turn the screen back on the PPC throws me back to Today.
I initially thought it was a problem with my ROM (LSG then Custel 1.3) but after flashing to VP3G 3.0 on my 8525 (I have both an 8525 and TyTN) and without anything else installed it does that.
Any ideas if this can be changed? I'd like to open app to stay visible.
Thanks in advance for the help.
I really don't have this problem on my ROM, see signature. I have especially tested it for you to be sure.....
Perhaps flashing 1 device to a different ROM. Can you see it yourself.
that's what i figured so I had my 8525 that was running WM5.
I HardSPL, SuperCID it then flashed it with VP3G.
There is nothing else on the phone but my exchange and pop account setup, owner info and basic stuff like this.
I also have the clock shown on every apps and the extended rom unlock/mounted (though it does it with or w/o).
My TyTN is running Custel 1.3.
I just can't think what could be causing the device to always minimize open apps when the phone is turned off (standby).
It seems that some plugins force a redraw of the today screen when coming out of stb. Nothing much to do but turn off the offending plugin.
Go to settings/today and on tab for objects remove the flag for timeout. Problem gone.
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
HunterST said:
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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This is a really annoying "feature" of WM6. So far no answer in the Microsoft forums regarding this. Would be glad if i could return to exactly the screen where i switched off the device or in which the timeout forced it to suspend.
If it is not possible to fix this with a registry hacking, would it be possible to develop a small helper application which saves which application was open before the atual suspend takes place and upon a wakeup reads this information and switches to the last active window ? The app itself is still active, isn't it ?
Regards,
Secuspec
Wait. So what exactly happens? I also used vp3G 3.0 and let's say I have Resco File Explorer open and my phone sits idle for 1 minute and goes into standby mode.. when I press the power button to make the screen turn on again, it still shows Resco File Explorer for me.. Is the bug causing it to go back to the today screen every time the phone goes into standby mode?
if a program is left open when the device is turned off (or screen "muted") the program will be minimized when you turn the Pocket PC back on (you're kicked back to Today).
Glad I'm not the only once having issues. Thought it may be a design (flaw) but IMO it's a crappy one. Wish someone can find a fix.
interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.
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interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.
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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike
ericc - that's exactly the problem. Are you sure you're really going to "sleep", and you aren't just seeing your backlight turn off? (you should have to hit the power button to wake it back up).
Especially annoying when driving with navigation software - I want to just turn it on and see what I saw before it went to sleep.
MikeC - that's a very interesting point. I have exchange push email going, and my system administrator pushes restrictions onto my phone... I use Zenyee Stayunlock to allow me to change the ridiculous 5-minute lockout to something more reasonable.... perhaps either the device lock or Zenyee is the culprit.
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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike
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Actually not really... my Windows workstation locks I expect to see the program I had maximized still on screen not all down in the toolbar minimized. IMO that doesn't make much sense (and even if it did they should have an option to select the default behaviour).
HunterST said:
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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Works fine on my Tytn with WM6 official Swedish. I don't have a device lock enabled btw.
yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.
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yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.
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Thanks for the hint samw52000! That perfectly worked for me And it also sped up a lot of programs directly after wake up -what makes perfectly sense since no other program is interfering anymore.
Long time after last reply, but still no solution.
I notice if time in suspend mode is longer that programmed in settings/Lock/Prompt if device unused for... (if you have to tap your password) then screen is same as before suspend.
Hi all,
I tried searching the forum for my problem, but no one else seems to have encountered it. If I'm wrong, please let me know .
The problem is quite simple to explain: the HTC TouchFlo interface recently stopped starting at boot time on my almost brand-new Touch Pro2. TouchFlo 3D is enabled in the 'Today' configuration of WM, but I only see the black screen with the HTC logo on it, accompanied by the "Calendar" and "Contacts" buttons on the bottom of my screen.
The problem occured after installing and uninstalling several applications (S2U was one of these, also G Light and FlexMail). Recently it did start the TouchFlo interface 1/2 of the times, but now it doesn't work at all. TouchFlo does show up when manually starting the 'manila' executable from the Windows-directory, but then the interface doesn't refresh (clock shows incorrect time).
Has anyone encountered this problem too and/or does know a solution for this? It's really annoying, since TF3D is so much better than WM6.1...
Thanks!
try to read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522363
I have the same problem, but I could solve it by disabling the sim pin1. Try this until htc will patch this (will they?)
Vogtländer
You're my hero! Indeed, disabling the PIN-code works, apparently the window asking for the PIN is messing with TF3D at boot time...
touchFlo cannot start on my Touch Cruise II
Hi everybody
after customizing my Touch Cruise with manilla customizer, i have the same problem, touch Flo cannot start.
warm reboot , nok
reinstall manilla, nok
add pin code, remove pin code , nok
i desactivate in tab settings the "MyFavesWidget" and the touchFlo start now....
everything is ok now (for me)....
/jfvp
Guys, call HTC, it's free! If no one, or only ONE does (I did), HTC will not fix... Calling is free...
I think this may well be correct - it may also be worth trying to wait for a while before entering your PIN 1.
My TP2 seems quite sensitive to how fast I enter the PIN in while it is still going through the startup process.
I removed some programs I last installed, and the problem was over.
I'm very curious whether HTC can do something with this problem: The first thing they'll do is hard-reset the device.
And see: No Problems --> Software related --> Bill for end user. $$
I've got the same problem and left a message at the HTC Support, hopefully they will fix it
I had to start the TP2 about 10 times until the TF3D started...
I will try, disabling the PIN, thx for the advice
Well for me it, I got 100% work on my TF3D since i bought it until today no matter how many times i restarted it.
I always unchecked the TF3D before installing any third party software, and configured whatever setting on the software that i have installed before activating TF3D again.
Never have problem with TF3D.
since i deinstalled s2u2 i never had that error again
I actually had the same issue, but disabling the PIN is unaceptable for me for security reasons.
I found that if a popup appears (no matter which popup, e.g. an empty battery notification) BEFORE the PIN is entered, TouchFLO will not start. Any popup after the PIN seems to have no influance.
So you'll have to check whether you see a popup before the PIN (and they can appear very shortly) and then uninstall that app.
That should solve your problem...
ripburger said:
I actually had the same issue, but disabling the PIN is unaceptable for me for security reasons.
I found that if a popup appears (no matter which popup, e.g. an empty battery notification) BEFORE the PIN is entered, TouchFLO will not start. Any popup after the PIN seems to have no influance.
So you'll have to check whether you see a popup before the PIN (and they can appear very shortly) and then uninstall that app.
That should solve your problem...
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didn't solve my problem, because I do not see any popups, before PIN.
HTC Support wrote me to Hard Reset my TP2 and If it doesn't work then, I'll have to send it to HTC for repair....
I will try a hard reset tonight
I raised this with HTC some time ago and they advised quite a few people have called / emailed them to advise of this very problem.
I think they are working on a patch to fix this but as yet i have heard nothing.
I also noticed that a messed up entry in the launch manager can prevent tf3d from starting. I tried to unlock some of the locked entries in the registry and accidently messed up some key. This prevented TF3d from starting.
I have the same problem, i solved disabling ACR.. But now manila start is very-very slow!
So.. I think there is some issue with ACR. You confirm?
worked for me
chasy said:
since i deinstalled s2u2 i never had that error again
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this did it for me too. S2U seemed to be the common denominator in all the issues for everyone. a+b doesn't always equal c when we are talking causes of issues but it looks like it in this case to me. i liked the app but i could never get it to work exactly like i thought it should anyway.
so i've tried checking on/off Today/Item/TF3D, tried Flight Mode, and it still won't work. i'm talking like only 30-50% of the time it does work. and I never had PIN1 enabled!
i'm no programmer but it is conflicting with apps we install because TF3D works perfectly when the phone was fresh or hard-resetted. btw i'm using 6.1 Stock T-mobile
Is anyone else having problems with the backlight settings not being saved on the Tilt 2? I set my phone to have the backlight remain on for 1 minute, not 10 seconds as is the default setting. Every time that I soft reset the phone, however, it reverts back to the 10-second setting. How come my settings are not staying saved?
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Is anyone else having problems with the backlight settings not being saved on the Tilt 2? I set my phone to have the backlight remain on for 1 minute, not 10 seconds as is the default setting. Every time that I soft reset the phone, however, it reverts back to the 10-second setting. How come my settings are not staying saved?
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Try making the changes, and then shutting the phone down by holding the power button, and then restart the phone, and see if that works for you.
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Try making the changes, and then shutting the phone down by holding the power button, and then restart the phone, and see if that works for you.
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Thanks for the reply. Shutting down the phone is what is causing the backlight setting not to be saved and to revert back to the 10-second setting. I did try it again, though, as you suggested; but I got the same problem... It's a minor issue, but it's still frustrating. Thanks again for your response, though.
I have the same problem and i dont know what's causing it.
If you have added programs to your phone, that possibly could be the cause of the problem. I experienced it after adding a program.
You will have to remove your added programs, one by one, to see which one is the offender.
prubin said:
If you have added programs to your phone, that possibly could be the cause of the problem. I experienced it after adding a program.
You will have to remove your added programs, one by one, to see which one is the offender.
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Thanks for the reply. I've just gotten the phone, so I haven't really installed any programs yet. The only one that I've installed is the "Marketplace" program that comes with the phone. I doubt that this is what's causing the problem. Thanks, though. Do you have any other thoughts? I've jus rebooted the phone again, and once more the backlight setting has reverted back to the 10-seconds setting. It's annoying! AT&T suggests that I hard-reset the phone to fix any potential bugs in the software. I'm not keen on doing this, however...
i had this problem with the new windows mobile 6.5 lockscreen and an older windows mobile 6.5 rom.
upgrading to a newer rom fixed this for me.
alternative: don't use the new lock screen.
Backlight Dimming Issue on Tilt 2
I just came across a fix (called TiltBacklightFix - see the link below to that page) for the Tilt (1) phone - I guess the same issue was found in those phones. I downloaded the cab to my phone, hoping that it might work on the Tilt 2 also.
Here are the results: After powering down and back on again, the diplay indicates that the backlight setting has reverted back to the 10-second setting - at least that's what the phone shows when going into the power settings. In actuality, though, control over the backlight appears to be disabled altogether. The backlight doesn't dim at all - the phone simply shuts off (power-saving mode) after however long that setting is set for.
You could, however, then go into the settings and change the backlight time to what you want. It saves it - until, of course, the phone is powered down and back up again. So I guess what I'm saying is that I'm back at square one.
Anyone have any other thoughts? Has anyone heard of a TiltBacklightFix cab created for Tilt 2 devices?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4879524#post4879524
I recognize that this is an old thread, but I recently acquired a Tilt 2, and have this exact issue. I couldn't find a solution until a kind soul mentioned to me that some older devices (such as the Tilt) had the same problem. Then, I found this this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1736898&postcount=5
After applying the fix there, my backlight issue *seems* to be solved! Hopefully it stays that way . . .
Hi folks, having a slight issue with my TP2. It is running the preinstalled vodafone rom for the UK. (version 1.14.161.6 (50207) WWE)
Over the last two days it has stopped automatically powering down the screen when not being used. The backlight switches off as normal, but the screen does not shut down until i press the power button. So if I forget, the screen can stay on all night, killing the battery.
Have been into the settings,on the power screen, and checked all 4 boxes are checked for the times to shut off the backlight and screen on both battery and mains power, and they are.
Any ideas? I have not installed any new software so am stumped. Any common causes of this behaviour?
Cheers
Jon
did you change it through the manila settings tab or start/settings/system/power/backlight ? the reason why i ask is because sometimes when you set settings through manila tab settings, the settings dont work. try deactivating manila, then start/settings/system/power/backlight , then reactivate manila. hope that helps. if not im stumped too.
Is manila part of touchflo? If so I don't have it enabled, I just use spb shell on top of winmo 6.1, so yes was using start/settings/power method.
However, not sure if I have hit upon the problem - I use a program called g-alarm (which is one of the best programs ever), and in it's settings there is a way to keep the screen on when the alarm is snoozed. I recently enabled this, and wonder if it might have messed up the os settings somehow.
I tried uninstalling g-alarm last night and it made no difference, but since restoring a backup, and changing the screen-on setting within g-alarm to off the phone is working normally.
I daren't re-enable the setting to test it, just in case the phone gets messed up again for good this time so this might be a total red herring, and perhaps it was just the restore that did the trick (although have restoring before at least 3 or 4 times with no joy). Will report back when I dare to mess again.
cool to here you are back to normal lol. it would have been a major hassle if you had alot of apps, accounts and whatnot to reinstall. i got really pissed at g-alarm one time when it wouldnt stop going off (phantom alarm) so i will never use it again. you might want to find the thread from where you got it and report the bug. maybe someone else has the same problem and the developer came out with a patch or upgrade for it.
Had same problem on 2 phones
I had same problem on 2 phones- Tilt2 and Kaiser (Tilt). Problem was.... Microsoft Live. When mail account set to ..As Arrived... phone doesn't go to sleep and keeps screen on permanently. Battery was empty in half of the day. After I switched to use POP or IMAP mail and stopped using Live, everything became normal and works excellent.
Here is the Answer
Maybe you have played some games and did not close it by the normal way..
Try to change the registry:
自动关屏时间
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\
"BatteryTimeOut" = 10
Then
另一种方法是在HKCU\ControlPanel\Power\
Display=25 改成自己想要的值
If there is not one,create it by yourself..
Well, it still happened today, so I think that rules out the g-alarm backlight setting. However, it worked fine most of the time, so intermittent.
Papasha, I think you could be onto something there, I do use MS live. Be a shame to lose the push mail though, but that's the next thing i'll try disabling if it recurs again.
Will try that too fishman if problem comes back, the backlight key is present but the display setting is not. Easily created though.
*post Updated on 28-1-10*.
The problem did start recurring again, so I tried the suggestion to disable the hotmail pushmail (sync items as they arrive) and that has definitely sorted the problem. As a very welcome side effect the phone suffers major slow downs far less now, if at all. I still use livemail but just set it to sync every 60 mins.
Hello all,
My phone is not working properly. I've had some bugs most people seem to be having, but now I have something which is quite annoying. I can't find it on these forums or anywhere on the internet.
I have seen a 1 line reference to my problem here:
/showthread.php?t=666332&highlight=standby
Flaws & annoyances with the HTC Desire (with workarounds!) [updated Apr 23, 2010
Hardware defects. Eg. Dust under screen, device not going into standby properly. Most of us don't experience these. Contact your retailer to exchange the unit or HTC to claim warranty.
So, I seem to have this problem. The phone wakes up with whatever button I press, and I don't have to unlock the phone. I have a unlock pattern set. It also doesn't ask me for this.
I couldn't find a proper topic about this problem, but I assume I'm not the only one. Is there a fix, or is it a hardware problem?
It wouldn't make sense to me if it's a hardware problem since the screen does turn off when I press the 'power' button.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks, Bart.
Which Lock?
are you using the built in lock or a third party lock app? I had the same problem when I used LockBot. If it's the standard lock, have you tried Powering the phone off then back on?
I am just using the built in application. I haven't used any other lock app.
I have tried turning the phone off twice, and both times it came back (might have been after charging it, but I don't know at all if that's the reason).
edit: I'm gonna try to recreate the problem with restarting and trying to find out when it stops working properly.
edit2: I restarted now... and it hadn't saved the new background I set... strange... :/
edit3: Ok, it still locks itself... I guess I'll just need to wait and see when it doesn't work anymore... maybe it's just a matter of time for it to stop working...
The problem that you quote in your opening post is probably the problem concerning the Desire (or rather an application running on the Desire) not properly releasing a wake lock which causes severe battery drain, e.g. the calendar app about which another thread exists.
Your problem seems to be quite strange. You do not happen to have an application called 'No lock' installed, right?
No, I don't have 'No lock' installed.
I use 2 calander widgets though... (the little one on my home screen, and an more advanced one on another screen.)
I've got quite some applications installed though... I'll just type them here, maybe someone can see something wrong...
Math Workout Lite
EStrongs File Explorer
Alarmering Droid
Groceo-NL
Q-Park parkeerfaciliteiten
ATM Locator NL
Text-To-Speech Extended
Google Translate
G-MoN for Android 2.x
Buienradar.nl v2
Gesture Search
Scoreboard
Listen
My Tracks
Air Horn!
Bonsai Blast
Star Wars Light Saber
Kaloer Clock - Night Clock
Coloroid
AudioManager Widget
IMDB Top 250
Pobs
Simply Cyanide
Voetbal nieuws
Barcode Scanner
Classic Simon
XDA-Developers
Backgrounds
SchottGunn
Shazam
Funny jokes
Ringtones
Google Maps
Google Goggles
I'm just trying some of the stuff of course... It's quite a long list...
Maybe Kaloer Clock brakes something?
I'll use it tonight again, going to sleep soon... Maybe it'll be broken again tomorow.
Lets hope it wont brake again... but that's probably too optimistic.
First off: sorry for the double post, but I have some new information which will also mean the end of this topic.
This morning it didn't work anymore, and the only application that did it's thing this night was the kaloer clock (night clock).
I looked at the settings, and there are some settings about screen lock.
It's not clear at all, but I changed some settings, and it locks again.
So, I guess it was just me using an app which I didn't fully understand. I'm glad you guys helped me though. And I'm definitely glad that my problem is solved!