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VPA and WM6

Hi my first posting I should be taking delivery of vodaphone VPA this weekend with windows 2003 second edition on it, is it possible to put WM6 on it? if so is it difficult to do. Or would it be best for WM5? or stay as it is.
Thanks in advance of any answers

as i had no idea what vodaphone call their oem line i had to google to se what device you was asking about but it seems that vodaphone call all their htc devices VPA so maybe you should supply more info about which device you are inquiring about

Hi Thanks for the reply don't know great deal about them I'm bit of a newbie, but maybe this will help
VODAFONE VPA COMPACT Key Features :
Operating System Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition
Processor: Intel PXA272 (Bulverde 416 MHz)
• ROM : 64MB
• RAM : 64MB SDRAM
Dimensions 58mm x 108mm x 181mm
Weight 160g
• Battery :Removable Li-Ion Polymer battery 1200mAh Battery talktime: Up to 5 hours Battery standby: Up to 8 days
GSM/GPRS Tri-band (GSM 900/1800/1900)
Colour display/Touch Screen (240x320), 65536 colours.
- View in either Landscape or Portriat mode with WM2003SE
- 2.8" 240 x 320 dots resolution
- 64k colour TFT transflective LCD
- LED back light
- Touch sensitive screen
Camera 1.3 megapixel CMOS
Application CD, Microsoft Pocket Word, Pocket Excel, Pocket MSN, MSN Messenger, Windows Media Player, Terminal Services Client, ClearVue PDF, ClearVue PPT, Voicedialling.

Diamond D3D Video drivers - default HTC_3D(soft) vs. ATI3D(hard) vs. S.Omnia3d(soft).

Why is the "ati d3d video driver" that works perfectly on HTC Diamond mostly ignored by the chefs and cookers?
Any specific reasons?
We have a version of the ATI d3d driver that enables diamond hardware rendering and makes VR hologram works smooth and 3d games are totally different.
Also there are COD2 3d files and settings here...
There is a visible improvement with this driver but the driver is ignored without any reason.
Also I added Samsung Omnia 3d SOFTWARE rendering drivers if you want to compare.(You can’t uninstall S.Omnia driver.)
Use the test`s and compare the results.
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ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER FAQ:
- Works perfectly on 2.03 rom.
- ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER makes OpenGL ES 1.1 to work on Hardware mode.
ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER enables diamond hardware rendering for 3D applications which are made on OpenGL ES.
Like S2P and the 3D hologram and lots of GLES 3d games with the 3D driver. (DOOM, DUKE NUKEM etc...)
- Uninstall procedure of the ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER - remove the cab or switch easily from one driver to other for testing via registry:
* HKLM/System/D3DM/Drivers/LocalHook ( d3dm_ati.dll or htc_d3dm.dll ) The original HTC_d3dm.dll is a software driver, which is a heavily modified Microsoft Reference driver that HTC ships with our Diamond's.
- mpeg, avi, xvid, or any video extension wont work better. This ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER mainly enables hardware rendering for 3D applications.
- No battery problems at all. I did noticed some improvements but not tested. USEd this driver since aug. without problems.
To visualy expiriense the huge 3d difference with the ATI D3D VIDEO DRIVER.
->> Just copy "lights.exe" to your Diamond and run it with the default driver. Check the speed and the quality of the rotating cylinder.
->> Installl the "Driver_Ati d3d.cab" and run again "light.exe" Check the speed and the quality of the rotating cylinder. (video)
->> Do the same with the Virtual Hologram.
To test:
- Disable TF3D;
- Power (disable turn off backlight)
Restart and wait until everything is loaded properly before running the programs.
1.LiGHTS.EXE Animation
a.Original driver
Driver: Microsoft d3d - d3dmref.dll
Hardware Rasterization - F A L S E
Hardware T &L – F A L S E
Using system memory – slow
b. ATI 3D driver
Driver:
Hardware Rasterization – T R U E
Hardware T &L – T R U E
Using VIDEO memory – VERY FAST
2.Dynamix 3d benchmark results - Software mode
a.Original driver
average 58.59FPS
min 15FPS
max 71FPS
b. ( Samsung Omnia )
average 65.66FPS
min 21FPS
max 71FPS
3.VIrtiual hologram
a.Original driver – AVG 16FPS
b.ATI 3D VIDEO DRIVER – AVG 51FPS
Lots of improvements with all 3d games.
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Credit goes to http://www.htcclassaction.org/ for getting 3D drivers ported and figuring out how to enable and accelerate Ati D3D.
K

Well some cookers don't add it so that people can choose... some uses ati d3d and some other use others as omnia drivers which i personally prefer... well it just done so that people can chose.. you can find this driver all the places on this forum btw..

you know the MSM7200 doesn't have *any* ATI technology inside it right? if there's any performance improvement, it must be imagined, or it's optimising software processing.

Well they're licensing ATI's imageon chip so in someway there is ATI technology inside

There's been a whole slew of developments over the past few days from different directions, in terms of MSM graphics. There has to be a chip of some sort or else OpenGLES wouldn't be supported, I think. And as Wishmaster put it, QC is licensing that name.

KraFT_mk said:
Why is the "ati 3d video driver" for HTC Diamond not included in the standard htc rom and also its mostly ignored by the cookers?
Any specific reasons?
We have a version of the ATI d3d driver that makes VR hologram works smooth and some games are totally different.
Also there are COD2 3d files and settings here...
There is a visible improvement with this driver but the driver is ignored.
Why is that and is this the only 3d version?
K
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0.15 fps before and 30fps after in hologram.
gotta say, there is something to this.

hologram doesn't have any consistency in measuring fps, imo it's not very good app at the moment for that purpose, I would like to see better fps in some other programs after using this driver pack, anyone?
also, I haven't found any improvement in video playback which is more important I guess, at least for me.

hmm Its better to install the driver is it smoother like an iphone or so? wich driver is the best forwathcing movies

Olipro said:
you know the MSM7200 doesn't have *any* ATI technology inside it right? if there's any performance improvement, it must be imagined, or it's optimising software processing.
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the Diamond uses the MSM 7201A and the ATI Imageon thingy.
there IS ATI technology in this phone. maybe you have it confused with another phone?

KraFT_mk said:
Why is the "ati 3d video driver" for HTC Diamond not included in the standard htc rom and also its mostly ignored by the cookers?
Any specific reasons?
We have a version of the ATI d3d driver that makes VR hologram works smooth and some games are totally different.
Also there are COD2 3d files and settings here...
There is a visible improvement with this driver but the driver is ignored.
Why is that and is this the only 3d version?
K
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the reason why they didn't include the driver is because it drain the battery a little bit faster when watching video , recording video , opening 3d program or games and so on .

So let me get this straight, it offers improvements to the phone but it's downside is that it drains the battery more. Do we know how much / fast ?

No, it shouldn't drain the battery at all. In fact, it is more efficient use of it.
There could be different reasons why chef don't use it. I saw one say that it's not official...or something of the sort.

Right, in that case, anyone got a link to whatever version of the driver is the latest one please ?
Many thanks,

^ The Ati d3d...cab in the first post should work fine.
I've tried the Omnia drivers with VSBenchmark2007, and there's no real difference. In fact, ATI is still a tad bit better.

First post update:
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Also I added Samsung Omnia 3d SOFTWARE rendering drivers if you want to compare.(You can’t uninstall them!)
Use the test and lets compare the results.
Driver_Ati d3d.cab (33.7 KB, 0 views)
Driver_SJ SamsungOmnia D3D.cab (109.0 KB, 0 views)
Test_dynamix3dbench.PPC2003_ARM.CAB (152.3 KB, 0 views)
Test_Lights and Text3D.zip (8.8 KB, 0 views)

Here my Result:
I use ATI d3d driver with original 2.03 GER Rom.
Result form Dynamix 3D Benchmark:
Average FPS: 67,52
MIN FPS: 21
MAX FPS: 73
Diamond Hologram:
FPS: 25
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Without the Driver:
Result form Dynamix 3D Benchmark:
Average FPS: 65,67
MIN FPS: 21
MAX FPS: 71
Diamond Hologram:
FPS: 0,15

igo8 and 3d drivers
hi all,
i noticed that the 3d interface of igo8 doesn't run smoothly on the diamond. Does anyone know if the ATI drivers make this app run more smoothly?

Any idea how to implement the Ati Driver cab in a stock ROM.
Wich files i must change i the kitchen.
Sorry but i don´t found any informations in this forum

I'll try to explain this as good as i possibly can.
The Ati driver is the ONLY driver that enables hardware 3D rendering. No Hardware 2D rendering. So you'll ONLY see improvements in 3D applications THAT USE OPENGL_ES_CM. (so NO improvements to TomTom, Igo, whatever nav app you use UNLESS it uses openGL)
The Omnia driver is a software 3D render driver. It doesn't do anything with the graphics chip hardware-wise.
Now about benchmarking tools:
If you want to test 3D Hardware, you should look for benchmarking tools that use OpenGL_ES. If you're not interested in that, you can use any benchmarking tool you want.
The reason why most cooks don't use the ati driver is that it's not the most stable driver to use in a ROM that's supposed to used daily. Imagine adding a supercharger to your Fiat Panda and risk blowing up your engine at every stop-n-go...

NeoS2007 said:
So you'll ONLY see improvements in 3D applications THAT USE OPENGL_ES_CM. (so NO improvements to TomTom, Igo, whatever nav app you use UNLESS it uses openGL)
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So Navigon 7 should improve? Theres a libGLES_CM_NoE.dll and libEGL.dll in the directory...

Is ist possible to run WP7 on Meizu m8 which has Win CE 6.0?

Hi question in title.
I had read in another forum that it is possible if anyone has a ROM of WP7 because the Driver can be used from Win CE 6.0.
Is that right, or possible?
I had also read about porting it to the HD2 is this possible now.
And if ROM's of WP7 are available where I can get these?

Nope.
WP7 has ties to the hardware, so while it may be possible at some point to run a ported rom on some devices its unlikely that you could run it on anything less than a HD2.
Currently its not fully ported due to the hardware serial number issues, the rom itself can run but Windows Live services do not yet so it cant access things like the windows marketplace. Cotulla and others are working on it but until that hurdle is overcome (its rumoured it has been but there is no direct evidence of it) it will never be more than a demo of the basics of the OS.
Never say never, but at the moment, no.
By the way this question has been asked and answered numerous times on this site, please learn to use the search button first.

Ok, but can you say me where I can download the ROM?
Its nice to have and I want to learn about it
Sorry, I have used the search but nothing found for me, its first time I used the forum really.

You cannot, it is only in the hands of the developers for now.
Flashing anything that purports to be a win 7 rom at the moment is likely to brick your phone

audifox said:
Ok, but can you say me where I can download the ROM?
Its nice to have and I want to learn about it
Sorry, I have used the search but nothing found for me, its first time I used the forum really.
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not supported
* Dimensions: 108 mm × 59 mm × 12 mm (H × W × T)
* Processor: Samsung ARM11 667 MHz CPU
* Display: 3.4-inch 16600K (OS 65536 colors), 720 × 480 pixel resolution, LTPS TFT LCD, with multi touch (2 points)
* PC Interface: USB 2.0 Ultra Fast Data Transfer
* Flash Memory: 8 or 16 GB of built-in basic Memory
* Operating System: Windows CE for Meizu M8 (Based on Windows CE6.0) (Mymobile)
* Video Playback: AVI, MP4, RM, RMVB, 3GP, MOV, ASF, WMV, MPEG, MKV, FLV, MPEG-4/H.263/H.264 at 30FPS
and I don't think it ever will to .
if you want to brick your phone then go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=783
and pick a rom

Qualcomm 3G Tablet PC Phone - 7 Inch Android 2.2 + GPS overclock?

I have bought this tablet from here.
This is the spec for this phone/tablet:
Qualcomm 3G Tablet Phone Specification:
Screen: 7.0'' Touch Panel, 800 * 480, TFT Screen
CPU: Qualcomm MSM7627, 800MHz
Operating System: Google Android 2.2
Memory: 256MB DDR
512MB Nand Flash
Hardware decoding
3D graphics acceleration
Function: Support Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 b/g network) / 3G network
Support 3G: WCDMA EVDO
make a telephone call
Audio formats: MIDI, MP3, WMA, AAC, WAV, PCM
Video formats: RMVB, AVI, MPEG4, FIV/JPG, TIFF, PNG etc.
Full featured Web browser, PDF reader, ES file Explorer, E-book, Email/Gmail, Google Search/Map/Talk, QQ and MSN, and more
More than 100, 000 applications for your free download
Gravity Sensor games
Characteristic: Gravity sensor, rotate screen according to direction of the device
Language: Multi-language
USB 2.0 * 1, (USB Host, USB Slave)
Headphone * 1, MIC * 1, DC JACK * 1, 3G sim slot * 2, TF slot, capacity up to 8GB (support TF HC)
Audio: 3.5mm earphone port
High-quality stereo loudspeaker
Size: About 198.2*114*13mm
Color: Black
Weight: 370 g
Battery: High-capacity battery 7.4V, 3500mAh
As you can read on the products review one guy have
overclocked this unit to 1 ghz.
This is what he says:
Thank you for this great product. I managed to install \"Arabic Language Pack\" from android market and now it supports Arabic language perfectly however, there are some differences regarding the mentioned specifications. the processor speed is 600, and Both Storage and RAM are 512 MB. The Battery life span is not 6 hours, it\'s over 14 hours with Wi-Fi and 2G (not 3G) connection!!!! AMAZING. I LIKE IT. i over clocked the processor to 1 Ghz and it\'s still amazing. no glitches, no freezing, nothing wrong.. the battery life went down to 9 hours. STILL AMAZING.. TenQ, Thank you
Is there a custom room for this unit, that makes it possible to overclock?
Or can I just root it and then overclock it? I have been searchering everywhere to fin something usefull.
Regards Kali

So what's the deal with this 'one x +'

Hearing rumours about this new one x + and its starting to annoy me, is this true? Or is it just a publicity stunt that others have said?
Sent from my HTC One X

Nobody knows to be honest. It's all guesswork.
It's probably true, but to what end is the question.

fore what i heart it shut be a dual cor 1.7
like the new one s
HTC One S C2
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100
Announced 2012, May
Status Available. Released 2012, June
Body Dimensions 130.9 x 65 x 7.8 mm
Weight 119.5 g
- Touch-sensitive controls
Display Type Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 540 x 960 pixels, 4.3 inches (~256 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass
- HTC Sense UI
Sound Alert types Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
Memory Card slot No
Internal 16 GB, 1 GB RAM
Data GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, HSUPA
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v4.0 with A2DP
USB Yes, microUSB (MHL) v2.0
Camera Primary 8 MP, 3264x2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Features Simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging, face and smile detection
Video Yes, [email protected], stereo sound rec., video stabilization
Secondary Yes, VGA
Features OS Android OS, v4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich), upgradable to v4.1
CPU Dual-core 1.7 GHz Scorpion
GPU Adreno 220
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Messaging SMS (threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email
Browser HTML, Adobe Flash
Radio Stereo FM radio with RDS
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support
Java Yes, via Java MIDP emulator
Colors Black
- MicroSIM card support only
- Beats Audio
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- TV-out (via MHL A/V link)
- SNS integration
- MP4/H.263/H.264/WMV player
- MP3/eAAC+/WMA/WAV player
- Google Search, Maps, Gmail,
YouTube, Calendar, Google Talk
- Document viewer
- Voice memo/dial
- Predictive text input
Battery Standard battery, Li-Po 1650 mAh

Please use the existing threads for this discussion.
Closed.