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I currently have an iPhone 3Gs which I like but the Touch2 is looking pretty nice. I'm thinking of leaving AT&T and going with the Touch2 using Verizon. Most of the ROMs I have seen here are for T-Mobile, my question is - can they be used on a Verizon phone? I have a couple of more questions if you don't mind:
1. Since I may be getting a new Touch2 - would it be wise to upgrade WM6.1 to 6.5 right off the bat - before even adding contacts, etc?
2. Can the Verizon version be update to 6.5 and is it safe and stable?
3. Which ROM would you recommend using? I'd rather have speed than 'pretty'.
I'm new to this and did not even know ROMs were available since the iPhone does not use one.
Thanks all,
MasterJack
BTW, I did a search for Verizon but not much came up.
1. No 6.5 for VZ out yet
2. Once 6.5 is officially released or HSPL becomes available
3. No HSPL out for VZ yet, so no custom ROMs
Bummer - sounds like I'm S.O.L. for now - maybe I'll just keep my iPhone until 6.5 and ROMs are available..... thank you.
you will be able to update it to 6.5 and use custom roms eventually, but not yet. just install windows phone on the phone and sync your contacts with it and when you instal a new rom you can sync them back onto the phone, pictures, ringtones, anything you put in their info. also, check sprint a lot cheaper monly plan, with the lowest minutes its $70/month on verizon (they make you get data). The Sprint Touch Pro2 should be around the T-Mobile ($150) / Verizon ($200) price range when its for sale in stores (10/11) and online through other retailers.
btw, some guy on my local craigslist will give u his tmobile touch pro2 for ur iphone if ur near chicago.
davebu said:
you will be able to update it to 6.5 and use custom roms eventually, but not yet. just install windows phone on the phone and sync your contacts with it and when you instal a new rom you can sync them back onto the phone, pictures, ringtones, anything you put in their info. also, check sprint a lot cheaper monly plan, with the lowest minutes its $70/month on verizon (they make you get data). The Sprint Touch Pro2 should be around the T-Mobile ($150) / Verizon ($200) price range when its for sale in stores (10/11) and online through other retailers.
btw, some guy on my local craigslist will give u his tmobile touch pro2 for ur iphone if ur near chicago.
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Thanks for your reply. I have never checked out Sprint - how is their coverage compared to Verizon? How does the TP2 Sprint compare to the TP2 Verizoin - hardware-wise?
Hardware wise they are the same. As for coverage, go to each of their sites and click "coverage map". There is a link right on their front pages.
How about the AT&T version due out soon - would it be wise to wait for that one or go with Verizon's version? Will AT&T's version be any better?
MasterJack said:
How about the AT&T version due out soon - would it be wise to wait for that one or go with Verizon's version? Will AT&T's version be any better?
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There is speculation that the AT&T version will ship with WM 6.5... Other then that, the only real difference is in the Carrier. Verizon is CDMA - mostly North America Service - Has an international option for GSM. AT&T will be GSM standard and will also allow for custom ROM's...
I have used Verizon and AT&T for work and Verizon seems like the better network in the US. I am personally waiting for the AT&T version.. (Same carrier I am on now.)
Why the desire for 6.5 so bad? Not much is different.
The stock ROM on the Verizon version is surprisingly good. Unless there is earth shattering improvements I doubt I'll flash it at this point.
No matter what, out of the box, this phone blows the iphone away!
Just finally took a look at one today at a T-Mobile store. Very nice unit - not as reponsive as my iPhone but it makes up in many other areas. I just saw that AT&T will have one soon - what's the advantage of that one over let's say Verizon? I just got my 3Gs a couple of months ago so I would have to break my contract with AT&T to get one - weather I get one from them (just break it and re-sign up if I can) or go with Verizon. My thought is that Verizon has better coverage here in Houston.
What about the Samsung Omnia II - seems very nice - which carriers will carry it?
Thx,
MasterJack
Protonus said:
Why the desire for 6.5 so bad? Not much is different.
The stock ROM on the Verizon version is surprisingly good. Unless there is earth shattering improvements I doubt I'll flash it at this point.
No matter what, out of the box, this phone blows the iphone away!
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Agreed, with GPS working and the stock ROM running well (for me) I'll wait for official 6.5 (as it is better than the HTC TouchFlo interface IMO). Though I am sure once it is cracked I won't be able to resist, but it is saying something that that I am not dying to upgrade it. As an old Touch and Touch Pro user this stock experience isn't even in the same league.
So if I go with the Verizon version - you recommend no changing anything? Just leave it alone until 6.5 comes out?
What's good site to learn about what's new with 6.5 as it relates to this phone?
Thx,
MasterJack
MasterJack said:
So if I go with the Verizon version - you recommend no changing anything? Just leave it alone until 6.5 comes out?
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You really don't have a choice with the Version Phone.. You can not add new ROM's until somene creates a HARD SPL for the CDMA phones. Once that is created, it provides the ability to make changes to the base OS.
I really dont like AT&T. I have gone back to them on 2 different occasions and left becuase of the same issues. There are days where they work great. There are other days where in areas you had full signal in, you will drop a call or be searching for service. AT&T's network just isnt as mature as Verizons. I have traveled all over the US for work and verizon is always the best.
One thing i am going to add....The only thing that is nice about AT&T is there handset freedom. But they are even managing to take that away from there clients.
I agree on the service area... Verizon's network is the best in the US...
I have moved my company to AT&T for two reasons... They used to get hardware out before anyone else (Tilt) and I can use the phones in Europe and Mexico with out issue. (Verizon works in Mexico but is expensive).
this is out for verizon right? i got it for tmobile and i love it so since my gf is looking for a new phone i will recommend it even tho she wants a black berry
I just blew almost $500 on an unlocked Tmobile version of the Touch Pro 2 to use on my AT&T network....only to find out I can't even get the data to work.
Epic Failure. Can I even get EDGE on this thing until I wait to blow more hundreds of dollars on a Tilt 2 on ebay?
EFFFF ME...
You should be able to use Edge, you just need to setup the AT&T Network settings. You can do it manually through the network settings or use one of the cabs floating around. I got my cab off the Kaiser boards a long time ago.
You definitely won't be able to do 3G though.
My year-old Fuze broke and is scheduled to be replaced under an extended warranty. The company called me today to tell me that the Fuze isn't available and they are going to upgrade me to a Touch Pro2.
I have been out of the loop and did some quick research on the phone. It appears that the Touch Pro2 runs Windows Mobile 6.1 and does NOT support 3G, but that the Tilt 2 comes with 6.5 and (I assume) does support 3G. This doesn't sound like much of an upgrade to me!
Should I be concerned? Will the Touch Pro2 even work on the AT&T network? (Hopefully the rep was speaking generically and that she really was talking about the Tilt 2; I hope to find out for sure tomorrow.)
Thanks!
If you are on ATT then insist on a Tilt2. It does have 3g for ATT. That being said it is a great upgrade from a FUze I would think. I went from a Kaiser to Tilt2 and would never go back.
If you were talking to a rep from AT&T, I don't think you'll have to worry. AT&T does not offer the Touch Pro2 to begin with, so I don't think they'll give you a phone that doesn't exist in their inventory. Their "Touch Pro2" is the "Tilt 2". The Tilt 2 will certainly work just fine on the AT&T network.
Sounds like the rep just knew that the Tilt 2 was also a Touch Pro2 and failed to use the AT&T name rather than the general name for the device.
I think his phone is being replaced by a third party warranty company like Square Trade or somthing. I may be wrong but thats how I interpeted his post.
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I think his phone is being replaced by a third party warranty company like Square Trade or somthing. I may be wrong but thats how I interpeted his post.
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That's correct. Thanks for the replies. It does sound like I need to make sure it's a Tilt 2.
MagicSpeller said:
It does sound like I need to make sure it's a Tilt 2.
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Well, I talked to them yesterday and they said it is a Tilt 2 they're planning to send me.
So...here's my next dumb question. As I continue to read comparisons of the various versions, I'm beginning to think maybe it isn't a Tilt 2 I want after all. Again, they've emasculated the phone by removing the front camera and added that irritating PTT button. I noticed also that there is a downloadable Tilt 2 ROM with WM 6.5. Is it possible to install this ROM onto a GSM Touch Pro2 and make it work with AT&T 3G?
Thanks again for bearing with me....
the camera on these phones is a little funky when taking a picture of yourself, otherwise its great. There are plenty of ROMs in the ROM development section of the rhodium forums. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490 they should all work with at&t 3g.
You can use the rom but the Tilt2 has the only hardware built in that allows you to use the full ATT network. It is a hardware deficiancy that the TP2's have not a software one that keeps you from using a Verizon or European TP2.
The PTT button is nice to have though as I have mapped it to the camera. As for the front camera, I never used in on my Kaiser so I dont miss it.
Not able to get 3G from At&T on Touch Pro2 - any workaround?
As I understand from this tread, it's not possible to get my norwegian Touch Pro2 witch I brought with me when I moved to US, to work with my supplier AT&T 3G network?
I have tried several different ROM's even stock shipped AT&T, but no luck only Edge goes... When I set it manually to HSDPA it will not find the network.....
So it has to be a Tilt 2, or is it anyone who knows a workaround for the Touch Pro2?
My old norwegian Kaiser has no problem with the same sim card.
Your phone may be locked to your Norwegian carrier. When my wife went to Europe, we had to unlock her phone to use it with a sim card there.
Contact your old carrier and see if the phone is locked.
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Your phone may be locked to your Norwegian carrier. When my wife went to Europe, we had to unlock her phone to use it with a sim card there.
Contact your old carrier and see if the phone is locked.
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His phone isn't locked is just that for some reason, Rhodium doesn't have universal 3g support like Kaiser did. The only way to get Rhodium to work with 3G is to get one that is made for your specific carrier.
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Your phone may be locked to your Norwegian carrier. When my wife went to Europe, we had to unlock her phone to use it with a sim card there.
Contact your old carrier and see if the phone is locked.
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Thanks. It's a unlocked phone.. I think that the Euopean version don't have the proper band. That's the differense between the Tilt 2 and Touch Pro2...
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His phone isn't locked is just that for some reason, Rhodium doesn't have universal 3g support like Kaiser did. The only way to get Rhodium to work with 3G is to get one that is made for your specific carrier.
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Thank's. Yeah, that's seems to be the case... My Kaiser has been my best friend always... Don't know if T-mobile could be used, they use another band?
I tried to search and found no answer.
I want to buy either a ATT TILT 2 or a US CELLURA touch pro2.
1- Will either of these phones work on TMOBILE 3G?
2- Will I be able to port over android on either one. I'm sure its a yes for att tilt but not sure for the us cellular tp2?
I'm tired of waiting for the HD2 android port so want to switch to one of these phones. Plus I really like to have a hardware keyboard.
Thanks in advance!
Come on someone has to know, take a minute, please.
JasjarMan said:
I tried to search and found no answer.
I want to buy either a ATT TILT 2 or a US CELLURA touch pro2.
1- Will either of these phones work on TMOBILE 3G?
2- Will I be able to port over android on either one. I'm sure its a yes for att tilt but not sure for the us cellular tp2?
I'm tired of waiting for the HD2 android port so want to switch to one of these phones. Plus I really like to have a hardware keyboard.
Thanks in advance!
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Neither will work on T-Mobile 3G. Why not just upgrade to the T-Mobile TP2?
I think there is an android port, but it is in beta. There is a separate forum for this task - you might check there.
Hi,
Just a couple of questions - I have been trying to get my Diamond to work on 3UK network and it tells me that it needs a network code. It comes up with a grey screen asking for a code to be input, if its cancelled out then it means the phone will work as usual but the SIM wont register so its useless as a phone as such...
I phone 3UK and the drone tells me that it means that the phone is locked (to whatever network) and cant be used on theirs... but my question is how can it be locked when I have flashed the thing at least 5 times? I've run the hardspl on it more than once and reflashed it, so is there a chance I have managed to install a locked ROM that has overwritten SPL or is the drone as clueless as he seems to be?
This is getting to be a dealbreaker for me and 3UK because I want to use the Diamond to see if I can get a better signal on that than the X10 Mini Pro that I have (which reports no signal 95% of the time) - If I can I will stay with them, if I cant I will get out of the contract...
The other question, is does anyone have any idea what the differences are between the MDA Vario 4 and the HTC Diamond because I ran the SKtools benchmark on my phone and it reported my phone as substantially *slower* than a Diamond and called it an MDA Vario 4 - this was marginally improved when running the Performance.exe clocker, but even then it seemed not to equal the stock diamond hardware figures. I am running host.exe as the home page, but even when I disabled that it was still down on power...
I have tried to find the difference between the Diamond and the Vario 4 and there seems to be no effective difference regarding processor or memory as such - could it be that the 6.5.3 system is dragging the phones figures down?
Hard SPL isn't unlocking your phone, it just let you to flash custom roms, to unlock your phone, use this thread.