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Hi all
my elfin fell from quite a high place, and the four casings into which the small screws visible when you take off the back cover are broken...meaning the front casing is loose too.
do you know where I can find a front cover (I don't really need the back but I'm okay with buying both)... but before that I was thinking maybe someone could have bricked their elf or had an unusable device but with a front cover that's ok...
thanks in advance for your help !
Plenty of covers in a selection of colors on eBay, I suggest you try to find one there. Not that expensive and you can buy a digitizer to match the color.
hi
thnx for your answer . what's a digitizer?
ptitrusse said:
hi
thnx for your answer . what's a digitizer?
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Digitizer is the outer screen cover attached to the faceplate that is responsible for touch function, the one you use your finger or stylus on. It's sold separately and is fairly easy to replace in cases when the touch function is lost or the digitizer is broken. You can get one to match the color of the housing for a complete look. Just look on eBay and you'll see what I mean.
oh... does that mean that the part responsible for touch function is actually stuck to the front casing and not to the screen itself? I hadn't thought about that... meaning I cannot jut change the front cover, I would have to replace this as well...
[edit] is it possible to use the one from my phone? cause it's working fine after all... I'm looking at it and I don't really know how to take it off...
ptitrusse said:
oh... does that mean that the part responsible for touch function is actually stuck to the front casing and not to the screen itself? I hadn't thought about that... meaning I cannot jut change the front cover, I would have to replace this as well...
[edit] is it possible to use the one from my phone? cause it's working fine after all... I'm looking at it and I don't really know how to take it off...
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The digitizer is attached to the housing and in your case needs to be pried off before being used again and re-attached to the new housing. The digitizers are fairly cheap (the reason I don't bother with screen protector), so you will get unscratched and new one that you will have to attach to the new housing. My recommendation would be to buy a new housing and a matching digitizer.
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thnx again for your help. I have one more question. Is the digitizer stuck to the screen or is it the actual hard plastic screen?
I find it's actually fairly expensive. When you add up the housing + the digitizer + the shipping costs it adds up to quite a lot..
[edit] Ok I think I finally got it now.
what do you think of this product ?
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If you have/get a USA TP2 you will be offered the split hard shell (leather wrapped plastic) case that actually fits and works very well but it has a MAJOR design flaw. Turns out there is a proximity sensor just above and to the right of the letters HTC on the front face (can't see it and don't know how it works) that is used for blanking the screen when in a call. The case TMo will try to sell you covers that sensor and it won't work. I took a 1/2" drill bit and made a hole just to the left and below the hole for the speaker (leaving enough plastic to keep continuity of the frame) and now the sensor works.
I will be calling my local dealer in the morning to make them aware of the problem. This needs to get out because the proximity sensor really works!!!! I wish I had it instead of the light sensor on my Touch HD.
Also make sure that ANY case you buy has that area uncovered.
Regards,
Gordo
jetjockgordo said:
If you have/get a USA TP2 you will be offered the split hard shell (leather wrapped plastic) case that actually fits and works very well but it has a MAJOR design flaw. Turns out there is a proximity sensor just above and to the right of the letters HTC on the front face (can't see it and don't know how it works) that is used for blanking the screen when in a call. The case TMo will try to sell you covers that sensor and it won't work. I took a 1/2" drill bit and made a hole just to the left and below the hole for the speaker (leaving enough plastic to keep continuity of the frame) and now the sensor works.
I will be calling my local dealer in the morning to make them aware of the problem. This needs to get out because the proximity sensor really works!!!! I wish I had it instead of the light sensor on my Touch HD.
Also make sure that ANY case you buy has that area uncovered.
Regards,
Gordo
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You can't see it and don't know how it works.. but after your cutting in the case you know it works.. i don't get it
jetjockgordo said:
...there is a proximity sensor just ... (...don't know how it works) ...
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A proximity sensors works by sensing if there is anything in its proximity.
xdadJeroen said:
You can't see it and don't know how it works.. but after your cutting in the case you know it works.. i don't get it
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I think I figured out what the OP is talking about. He's referring to a hard plastic shell accessory for the phone. The TP2 has a neat feature of turning off the screen during a call when you put it next to your ear. I wouldn't have noticed it if it weren't for the OP.
vdKarel said:
A proximity sensors works by sensing if there is anything in its proximity.
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Ok, that was good. You got me!
xdadJeroen said:
You can't see it and don't know how it works.. but after your cutting in the case you know it works.. i don't get it
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Comparing the TP2 to my HD I noticed, before I put the shell on, that screen blanks perfectly during a call when it gets about 1-2" from my face (my HD effectively does not have that feature) and functions much like, dare I say, like the iPhone for the screen blanking. It took me a while to realize the sensor is not near the LED/speaker area but about 1/16" (1-2mm) above and to the right of the letter C from HTC. I initially drilled a hole that was about 1/8" but it was too high and too far left for the sensor to work so I just made the hole larger and now it works perfectly....not pretty put it works. I actually like the hard shell (my wife, not so much since it makes the whole package bulky) and feel that it is providing good protection and good anti-slip properties.
My comment about not knowing how it works is based on the sensor is in a part of the case (phone case, not add-on protective shell case) that can not be seen, no holes, no windows, nothing. It is not infrared and is not visible at all. I guess it could be some kind of ultrasonic emitter/receiver to sense proximity, not sure. Anyone read about how that works?
Gordo
Pretty sure the sensor is optical like this:http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/562865. It can work through plastic that seems opaque to us.
On the EU version the sensor is to the left of the HTC logo about 1cm to the left of the 'H'.
strzelecki said:
Pretty sure the sensor is optical like this:http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/562865. It can work through plastic that seems opaque to us.
On the EU version the sensor is to the left of the HTC logo about 1cm to the left of the 'H'.
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Great info, thanks. I take it the EU devices have the letters HTC in a place other than just above the top left of the screen?
Question: I am looking on Ebay for another hard/split case like the one I got from my TMo USA dealer and see that some have a hole for the sensor but it appears to be to the right of the speaker. Do the EU devices have the sensor in a different spot?
This is the link I was looking at to buy but the hole is one the wrong side or is it just a picture that has been reversed? Or is that a hole for a front side camera that the USA devices don't have???
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-MATTE-CASE-R...ries?hash=item4147ebe116&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
My local TMo dealer said they would replace mine so i can drill the hole more accurately but I am still thinking I want to try one from Ebay.
Gordo
The hole in that one appears to be for the camera.
More screen blanking problems
Wow, after some research it looks like no shell/skin type of cases have the cutout for the in-call screen blanking proximity sensor.
If you have a shell/skin for the TP2, can you confirm that feature is/not working?
Gordo
I can confirm that the sensor does not work when I put my silicon case on. I ordered mine from ebay...there is a thread about silicon cases here. Anyway, I did a test like you did and sure enough, the sensor does not work when I have the case on. When I take the case off, the sensor turns off my screen.
Can you post a pic of where you drilled your hole? Thanks.
use a hole puncher on a piece of post-it... move that holey post-it over the suspected area... use other palm to simulate your face... move holey paper until screen blanks... and there's your sensor.
tmobile sells the body glove 2 piece snap on case (hard black case) as well as a 2 piece silicone case combo pack with a car chargeer. the silicone case with the car charger actually has an offset hole for the earpiece and proximity sensor unlike the body glove case.
moral of the story...get the tmobile combo pack that has the silicone case as well as the car charger.
What "Won't Work"?
jetjockgordo said:
If you have/get a USA TP2 you will be offered the split hard shell (leather wrapped plastic) case that actually fits and works very well but it has a MAJOR design flaw. Turns out there is a proximity sensor just above and to the right of the letters HTC on the front face (can't see it and don't know how it works) that is used for blanking the screen when in a call. The case TMo will try to sell you covers that sensor and it won't work. I took a 1/2" drill bit and made a hole just to the left and below the hole for the speaker (leaving enough plastic to keep continuity of the frame) and now the sensor works.
I will be calling my local dealer in the morning to make them aware of the problem. This needs to get out because the proximity sensor really works!!!! I wish I had it instead of the light sensor on my Touch HD.
Also make sure that ANY case you buy has that area uncovered.
Regards,
Gordo
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Im thinking of getting this phone and so im looking for possible issues but I don't understand why this is a problem. If the phone is in the case, then it would be in proximity to something and it ensures the screen stays off so its not wasting power or getting hot right? Then when its taken out of the case and you bring it out of suspend mode the screen and all turns back on....? what am I missing here?
jetjockgordo said:
Comparing the TP2 to my HD I noticed, before I put the shell on, that screen blanks perfectly during a call when it gets about 1-2" from my face (my HD effectively does not have that feature) and functions much like, dare I say, like the iPhone for the screen blanking. It took me a while to realize the sensor is not near the LED/speaker area but about 1/16" (1-2mm) above and to the right of the letter C from HTC. I initially drilled a hole that was about 1/8" but it was too high and too far left for the sensor to work so I just made the hole larger and now it works perfectly....not pretty put it works. I actually like the hard shell (my wife, not so much since it makes the whole package bulky) and feel that it is providing good protection and good anti-slip properties.
Gordo
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Hey Gordo,
I am curious. If the prox sensor blanks the screen when it is close to your face, wouldn't you want it to also blank the screen while in the case? That would seem to keep alerts from leaving a live screen and wearing down the batteries. (That happens to me now with my Tilt.) If so, then you do not want a hole in the case?
Dickr
OmsagroSylph said:
Im thinking of getting this phone and so im looking for possible issues but I don't understand why this is a problem. If the phone is in the case, then it would be in proximity to something and it ensures the screen stays off so its not wasting power or getting hot right? Then when its taken out of the case and you bring it out of suspend mode the screen and all turns back on....? what am I missing here?
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If you look at my original post I mention that this problem is with the split shell case that is being sold by factory Tmobile retail stores in the USA. Ebay also has a number of 2 piece cases/skins/shells that, without a hole for the sensor, will frustrate people who might not know that the "screen blanking while in call" feature will be rendered unusable. Someone mentioned that it is the Body Glove, hard plastic wrapped in leather, 2 piece case that has one part clip on the display part of the phone and the other part on the back of the keyboard half of the phone. Both halves of the case are intended to remain on the phone. If you are just placing a naked TP2 in, say, a pouch case, then this is not a concern to you and should blank the screen if you are in a call while using a BT headset.
Gordo
jetjockgordo said:
If you look at my original post I mention that this problem is with the split shell case that is being sold by factory Tmobile retail stores in the USA. Ebay also has a number of 2 piece cases/skins/shells that, without a hole for the sensor, will frustrate people who might not know that the "screen blanking while in call" feature will be rendered unusable. Someone mentioned that it is the Body Glove, hard plastic wrapped in leather, 2 piece case that has one part clip on the display part of the phone and the other part on the back of the keyboard half of the phone. Both halves of the case are intended to remain on the phone. If you are just placing a naked TP2 in, say, a pouch case, then this is not a concern to you and should blank the screen if you are in a call while using a BT headset.
Gordo
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Gordo,
Thanks. This is much clearer and makes sense if you use a hard plastic case.
Dickr
cabranscom said:
I can confirm that the sensor does not work when I put my silicon case on. I ordered mine from ebay...there is a thread about silicon cases here. Anyway, I did a test like you did and sure enough, the sensor does not work when I have the case on. When I take the case off, the sensor turns off my screen.
Can you post a pic of where you drilled your hole? Thanks.
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Do you still need a picture of where I had to drill the hole in the hard shell case? If so I can have it posted by tomorrow.
Gordo
Gordo,
Can you please post a few pictures of the Body Glove case (thanks for replying to my previous thread). I cannot locate any decent pictures of the phone from various angles with the Body Glove case.
Thank you
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Gordo,
Can you please post a few pictures of the Body Glove case (thanks for replying to my previous thread). I cannot locate any decent pictures of the phone from various angles with the Body Glove case.
Thank you
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You bet. I am out of town until late tonight and will post some pictures tomorrow.
Gordo
The outer frame of my phone (the metallic plastic border-frame-thing) has a scratches and gauge on it now because I dropped it few weeks ago. I know it's just the appearance but at times I just find myself staring at it with discontent.
Here is the Link to the photo of it. (remove the spaces I'm a new user)
http : / / yfrog . com / n415092010127j
So I ask what would you do if you vibrant has that gauge/scratch?
Do you think it's fixable? maybe just sand it down to smooth it out or would it be make it worse?
Is it possible to get a replacement part?? I cannot find anything online but... I did see the non-working "T-MOBILE DUMMY SAMSUNG VIBRANT T959 DISPLAY PHONE" model on ebay.. do you think I can take the part from there? (haha, I think I do sound somewhat desperate)
oh and is there a case that just covers the perimeter of the phone leaving the back and front exposed? (I have a case for my phone already it but it makes the phone look pretty bulky)
Thank you everybody
I'd like to know this as well as I dropped mine on Friday and scratched all four corners! I thought about sanding it to give it a brushed look, but since it's plastic, I have a feeling it would look like crap.
Can you replace just that part?
Just put it in a case that covers the chrome bezel.
I had a similar issue when I had my blackberry 8900. The "chrome" around the sides started coming off, so I picked at it with my nail until it all came off. It was smooth black plastic underneath, and I'm willing to bet that's the case with the Vibrant.
You could tape off the parts you don't want scratched (screen, buttons, etc.) and use sandpaper on the chrome.
YES U CAN
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Global direct part.com and find ur phone
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YES U CAN
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Global direct part.com and find ur phone
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www.globaldirectparts.com
you mean that?
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/Samsung-T959-Front-Housing-p/smsng6085940.htm Right here bro
Just use a good quality liquid Wax polish used on automobiles.
I had a very similar issue as yours. I tried everything and finally came up with a solution. And it was the liquid Wax polish used on cars and bikes to make them shine. Just mask all the sensitive parts of the area of your phone in which you have scratches, then take the polish and rub it on the damaged area with optimum pressure with a clean cotton cloth (make sure a little heat is generated due to friction) . You might have to do it several time so, protect any other unwanted part.
Hope this helps ?
I recently picked up a cheap, generic lanyard for use with the Note and have found that it completely changed the way I hold and use the phone. It makes holding the phone a lot more comfortable and allows for full single hand usage of the phone. Also, I have done some drop tests and it pretty much drop-proofs the phone (linked below is a video of a drop test I did). I HIGHLY recommend getting one of these, if only for the increased flexibility it gives you when using it single-handed.
How it Helps Single-Handed Use
Because the lanyard I got has a clip on it I am able to detach the lanyard part of it and just have a little “tail” of sorts on the phone. I almost always have this tucked between my middle and ring finger when holding the phone, as it allows me to comfortably hold the phone without needed to support it from the bottom of the phone with a finger. It is hard to explain, so I took a video of it (linked below). This manner of holding the phone means that the ONLY part of the hand that needs touch the phone is the middle and ring fingers on the center of the back plate of the phone. The traction from the skin on the back plate keeps it from moving left/right, gravity keeps it from moving up, and the string connecting the bottom of the back plate to the tips of my middle/ring fingers keeps it from falling. It basically feels like the phone is floating in your hand when holding it like this. It allows you not only to comfortably hold it and use your thumb, but use both your thumb and index finger for zooming and panning as well! And, if you tilt the phone in your hand, you can reach ANY part of the screen with your thumb. You can manipulate the phone however you like, by doing this, without fear of dropping it because the string is firmly between the two fingers.
(This video is in HD so you can press the 720P button and make it fullscreen to see more)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQ32JT3Uk8
Drop-Proofing
The video shows it the best but you can drop the phone however you want and it will be caught by the lanyard every time. The back plate is fit so securely into the phone that it does not budge, not a single clip of the back plate has come undone in any of my tests (and in one of my tests I flung it around in a circle on the end of the lanyard). Quite amazing really, defeats the need for an OtterBox for me.
(This video is in HD so you can press the 720P button and make it fullscreen to see more)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXFOAuDcmRU
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Hey, watched your vids. How are you using this 1 handed? It looks like you've somehow got the thick part of the lanyard up close to the phone in that video...
nice work.
By the way, did you hurt your finger doing this mod ?
copualt3: Thanks!
gerizafa:
Hopefully the linked photo below illustrates it more clearly. I simply tuck the lanyard attachment between my middle and ring finger and it holds the phone.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h260/piranha_pilot/IMG_0988.jpg
blobotorian:
Thanks! And lol no I didn't, I accidentally cut myself while absent-mindedly taking knives out of the dishwasher.
would it **** u off if the back cover fell off and ur phone smashed?
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would it **** u off if the back cover fell off and ur phone smashed?
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I too use a lanyard, but have mine attached to the flip case back (also at the speaker hole).
Firmly pulling the flap away from the lanyard, and nothing happens. It's not coming off by accident.
BTW... I have a much smaller lanyard with nice leather detailing. Without ever consciously thinking about it, I have gotten into the havit of leaving the lanyard dangling out of my pocket, and my hand subconsciously goes through the lanyard every time I take the phone out of my pocket.
I plan on using a Nillkin TPU case which has strap holes and an SGP Asturias leather handstrap on my imaginary Note. I say imaginary because it's all just an idea, I might get one, I might not. The dev community is so good for the SGS2 that I'll just miss having so many options and tweaks.
@unsinkable can u post some pictures
I did this exactly, sturdy at first but I kind of have the feeling that plastic grill will break some day.
Still better than having the whole phone break after a fall tho.
Not having included a proper lanyard hook like in SGS2 was a huge shortcoming for note designers. SGS2 had the con of an unproperly placed lanyard in the top part of the phone, but still!
I'm finding it rather difficult to get my lanyard's string through my speaker phone grill.
It is in fact hard, the typical lanyard end-cords are thicker than the space avaialble in the grill, but if you push attentively enough, or use the help of a tiny object like a de-tipped needle, to push the loop in the middle for you, it is then pretty easy to do the job.
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I'm finding it rather difficult to get my lanyard's string through my speaker phone grill.
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Hmm just remove the back plate first and then tuck it in and out?
broke mine.
My lanyard broke the little bar behind the speaker.
I personally don't think much force was used to make this happen.
It didn't break it off completely, just one side. So I pushed it back in, so that cosmetically it looks ok -but I certainly can't attach a lanyard on it again.
I'll have to find a case/shell with a lanyard loop.
Incidentally, does anyone know if it's possible to get a replacement back panel?
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My lanyard broke the little bar behind the speaker.
I personally don't think much force was used to make this happen.
It didn't break it off completely, just one side. So I pushed it back in, so that cosmetically it looks ok -but I certainly can't attach a lanyard on it again.
I'll have to find a case/shell with a lanyard loop.
Incidentally, does anyone know if it's possible to get a replacement back panel?
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Metal ones to be found on ebay
Sent from TapaTalk on my Samsung Galaxy Note
thanks for the vids . .
but seems a bit much to wear a wrist leash to carry a cell phone?. .
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I'll have to find a case/shell with a lanyard loop.
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Please share if you do find one. I'd also be interested in a case with a lanyard loop spot!
mcatt66 said:
thanks for the vids . .
but seems a bit much to wear a wrist leash to carry a cell phone?. .
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I thought so at first but it soon becomes 2nd nature (5 weeks now)
zkyevolved said:
Please share if you do find one. I'd also be interested in a case with a lanyard loop spot!
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the ringke case in the thin case thread has lanyard holes
zkyevolved said:
Please share if you do find one. I'd also be interested in a case with a lanyard loop spot!
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Nillkin has one. They're fairly easy to find on ebay. I think they have multiple colors, or something.
Hi
just need to know whether Arc S has a built in screen guard from the company or not !
cuz from the beginning m not using any protection as i see an edge around the corners that reflects the dual surface, which i believe is the original protector !
plz help as i want to put a guard now as i see sme minor scratches which are alarming !
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Yep the phone comes with 'mineral-resistant screen'. However it is best to put another screen protector on it just to be on the safe side I have a mirrored one
thnx ! but if that mineral protector is somehow peeled off ! is it bad ? cuz i did that deliberately !
stab2 said:
thnx ! but if that mineral protector is somehow peeled off ! is it bad ? cuz i did that deliberately !
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Really? At least on my phone I even did not try because it looks like almost as its fixed there and cant be peeled.
Mine as well didn't last long.. In just couple of days air bubbles started to breed between the screen and the protector! I had to take it off and apply a new one (you can buy in mobile shops)
A good tip is to make sure there's absolutely no dust on the screen before you start applying the protector
Stock protector is applied so precisely and is so sticky that it's almost impossible to "accidentally" remove it. So I don't know how did you manage to do that, really.
Also, can someone explain to me how is it possible for bubbles to start appearing under screen protector all by themselves, for no reason??? Some new laws of physics maybe, or...?