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Tried everything -Remove System Tray/Start Bar

So I've spent the past couple HOURS looking how to remove the system tray or start bar from my Excalibur. I've tried all VJ's tools, dcinobar, the init_tray.lnk from the start menu or /windows/startmenu (removing that link if you can find it will remove it), wisbar, searching the registry for what would work for the Wing, tried PMC Today Shrink, tried HKLM\init\Launch92:TrayAp.exe, HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/HTC/ Tray/app, and I can't seem to either find the correct registry entry, program (all aren't for smartphones), and right now i'm searching through the xml file for the Kaiser tweat hoping to find something...
I'm trying to squeeze the extra home screen real estate by removing it but keeping the soft keys active...does anyone have any ideas of what file to remove or what registry entry to edit/remove or program that will accomplish this?
This forum rocks and I'm really hoping for some help.
Thanks!

try using smarttool kit, just google it and you will find it, you might like it... makes it like a vista style menu

You need to learn basic coding skills for editing the homescreen XML scripts (edit via PC using any text editors).
Edit the XML files for the homescreens (located at "\Application Data\Home\" folder. Just remove the code for the system tray plugin, and you're set to go.
As for the start bar, I'm still trying to figure out (just learned how to edit XML scripts couple of hours ago). Will inform you ASAP once I know how to.
Below is an example of such code. The plugin class ID (plugin clsid) for the system tray (iconbar) is the same for every smartphones (probably the same for all WM5/6 phones).
Code for system tray :
<plugin clsid="{837FC251-FE69-43ad-84E0-EBCEDEBA0884}" name="iconbar" height="27">
<iconbar fgcolor="COLOR_HOMEHIGHLIGHTTEXT"/>
<background gradient="title" bgcolor="COLOR_TRAYGRADLEFT" b-border-color="transparent"/>
</plugin>

Thanks for the replies. I have smart tool kit, and it has a feature to auto-hide it's vista style startbar...but the original start bar is still behind it after it "auto-hides" on the homescreen.
I have to mess around with xml file also...let's all keep each other posted on progress.
My intention is to remove the original startbar and then use smarttoolkits auto hide when a softkey is hit.

Any update on removing the start bar & soft key text from anyone? I'm assuming it's a registry edit?? I just can't seem to find they keys...
Again if anyone has any ideas I appreciate it.

removing the iconbar entry (or disabling it) out of the homescreen.home.xml will only remove the top bar, it will not remove the bottom bar/softkey labels.
-JD

Creating folders in the start-menu

Hiho,
the more programms you install on your TP2, the longer the startmenu will be. Rolling throug this can be a realy long way. So I wanted to create some folders to minimize the menue and make it easyer to work with, but I didn't succeed. Isn't it possible to create folders in the startmenu of TF3D?
Regards
Balu

I hated the All Programs in one list.
As you already mentioned, it is a pain when the list starts growing, and you want to start something in the middle or near the end of the list.
So I was eager to get the old "All programs" back, in columns and rows.
I found a .cab file in this thread, and that works for me!

Baluliloe said:
Hiho,
the more programms you install on your TP2, the longer the startmenu will be. Rolling throug this can be a realy long way. So I wanted to create some folders to minimize the menue and make it easyer to work with, but I didn't succeed. Isn't it possible to create folders in the startmenu of TF3D?
Regards
Balu
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Use the default Windows Mobile's Start Menu! Press and hold the Call button over TF3D, after the Start Menu will popup. You can create folders to the "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\" dir.

@ronh: Great thing - I even like that one. Thx a lot!
Greetings from bavaria ;-)
Balu

sancho1234 said:
Use the default Windows Mobile's Start Menu! Press and hold the Call button over TF3D, after the Start Menu will popup.
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Could you explain this further? Is it something that should work without any tweaking?

if you assign to long press call button the start menu, it will open the original windows start menu, not the manila one...

Brilliant, thanks. I'd never looked in the buttons settings because of the lack of hardware buttons! It's a shame we can't assign the speakerphone mute to something when outside of that mode.

TF3D Start Menu customization

I've had my TP2 for a few days and have seemed to run into a wall when attempting to modify the "Start" page.
It's pretty easy to remove and add programs, but how do you do things like rearrange them or add submenus??
Thanks,
F

install ActiveSyn,then connect your pro2 and pc.
in pc enable show all hiden folders,then in ActiveSync go to pro2 folder
\windows\"start up"menu\programs
you can delete unwanted program shortcuts. maybe you can creat new folders or subfolders to cut program shortcuts in them,i didnt try.
concerning rearrnagment of icons,i dont think there is a way,what i know is you can only move icons in bottom to top.
go to start up menu in your pro2,touch on any program icon for about 3 seconds,one window will come up,it says "move to top"

Remapping TF3D New Start Menu

I am running wizbar v3 which changes my Start Menu which I like, but I'd like to be able to keep a way to access the default Start Menu that includes app shortcuts (without restoring the Programs tab on the touchFlo interface). What I want to do is create a soft key on the homescreen labeled "Programs" that points to the TF3D start menu so I can have it available while running wisbar. Anyone know how this can be done?

I think I understand what you are trying to do but Wisbar is a today screen plugin that replaces TouchFLO 3D. Without TouchFLO 3D running, you will not be able to access it's program menu interface. I think Wisbar has an icon based start menu, could you use that instead?

thanks for the reply. I'm not sure about that though, my touchFlo is definitely running while I run wisbar..I can go through the tans and all the touchFlo features are fully functioning as wisbar is running. Wisbar's start menu is like a list view instead of the larger icons that touchFlo displays for its design of the Start menu.

Ok, sorry for the misunderstanding. There are several different versions of Wisbar. I thought you were talking about Wisbar Advance Desktop which will replace the TouchFLO 3D. Wisbar Advance is just a start menu replacement and I think that is the one you are using. I don't know if there is a setting to allow you to see the original icon based start menu in Wisbar. You may have to edit the registry to change the soft key or modify one of the xml files for TouchFLO 3D. I have used a different program called Quick Menu that replaces the start menu with one like in Wisbar. It has an option that you can set that will open the original start menu with a long press on the start button. You may want to try Quick Menu, it is a free application and does what you want.

mav519 said:
What I want to do is create a soft key on the homescreen labeled "Programs" that points to the TF3D start menu so I can have it available while running wisbar. Anyone know how this can be done?
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Not real sure what wisbar does, but this cab will put the manila start menu as just another tab on your slider and gives the original start menu back. If wisbar is just another start menu replacement, then that would still work. credit cookiemonster
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=539107

Right I'm using the Wisbar Advance 3 so my Desktop is the default design. I've used QuickMenu before it's pretty neat, didn't know it had that function with it. In general though I think it would be great to have a way to change each of the softkeys for this new TouchFlo since they change depending on which tab is selected. Hopefully someone is working on this...

Link to the Control Panel

Hello guys,
After a long search on the web I can't find the answer to "How to create a control panel shortcut on Windows Mobile".
Out of the box, our Rhodium are packaged with a "Settings" shortcut in the start menu which links to the Settings tab of Manilla. I find this annoying, if i want to go to the manilla settings, i use manilla not the start menu.
So I want a direct link to Windows' control panel. I've seen many ways to link to a specific applet, but not the whole control panel.
Anyone can help ?
PS : Also I'm looking for the HTCSettings.exe file stored in every Rhodium (WM6.5 version)... I've accidentally deleted it :/
Thanks !

I am not sure I understand the question, but I think what you want is to be running TouchFLO instead of Windows Default.. If that is correct, the solution is simple. Click Start>Settings>ToDay>Items>TouchFLO 3D>OK>X and you should have it. What you want is to be running TouchFLO instead of Windows Default.
Hope that helps.

what he is saying is that he wants to got to the control panel or "settings" from the start menu, when you hit start and then settings it takes you to manilla settings

What annoys me is that the Bluetooth and Today screen prefs are ONLY available through the Windows CPL, things like QuickMenu don't see them..

You got is cs400, that's what I'm looking for.
Someone can send me the original HTC Settings.exe (Located in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs) ?

Okay guys, I figured out how to solve this problem by hanging around in the registry !
How to change the "Settings" icon in the Start Menu to make it open WM's Control Panel rather than Manilla's settings panel ?
- First go to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and remove (or move) the file HTC Settings.exe
- Then go to the registry \HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo and change the value HideSettings from 1 to 0
- Reboot your device, it's done !

I am trying to change the 'Settings' button in the Start Menu to open the WM Control Panel instead of the Manila settings, however, the \HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo key does not exist in my registry. Is there another way to link to the Control Panel? Thanks!

WM control panel shortcut
I would appreciate anyone telling me how to make a shortcut that links to the WM Control Panel.
Thanks!

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How to change the "Settings" icon in the Start Menu to make it open WM's Control Panel rather than Manilla's settings panel ? it's done !
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Thank-you a million times! Just installed something that crashed my HTC Sense, and couldn't for the life of me work out how to get to Remove Programs so I could un-install it! I now have my phone back, without having to go down the hard-reset route which I'd feared was my only option.

you could do as htc intended and clicked "all settings" on the settings tab for those manila doesnt cover.

Which would have worked brilliantly....had I been able to get to the settings tab in the first place.
With Sense freezing, I had to run the 'change my background' option from 'Getting Started' to get into the Today options and disable Sense. Then use the tips in this thread to get the Settings folder back on my Start Menu. Normally I would have used the All Settings option, but couldn't in this case, and it's funny how much you don't realise is missing from a start menu....until you need it!