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In different threads I see different meaning about SPB software and their performance on WM6 especially about the memory consuming.
I think it a good idea to discuss the sbp software in this thread in stead of the other treads. In the other treads this thread can be referenced when needed.
Can you reply to in this thread which SPB software you are using in WM6 without any troubled?
Thanx!
John
With out Problem I work with;
Spb Diary
Spb Pocket plus
Spb GPRS Monitor
Spb Backup
Spb Phone Suite
In Backup I hafe somthimeb problem if i make a complet Backup alsome from the System.
Remo
I also use without any issues:
Spb Phone Suite
Spb Mobile Shell
Spb Diary
Spb Pocket Plus
Haven't tried others though, but the talk about memory leak I haven't noticed at all...
Radom55 said:
With out Problem I work with;
Spb Diary
Spb Pocket plus
Spb GPRS Monitor
Spb Backup
Spb Phone Suite
In Backup I have somthimeb problem if i make a complet Backup alsome from the System.
Remo
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Yes, I use SPB Diary & SPB Backup as well. I used to have problem with the SPB Backup (v1.5) but the latest version 1.6 Built 2753 is ok, I do not have issue with Full Backup. According to the change log, this version is designed to work with WM6. So if you have problem, try using the latest version..
Any success with SPB Time anyone?
Hallo alvinlim28,
i update no the Spb backup..
no works very good.
only one thing.
The comment after the backup is
"i can not backup the file btdisk.tmp in Windows Folder.
Waht do this file? I cant delete this tmp file. Its in use.
But what kind of Programm use this file?
Remo
It's a temporary file, I'm not an expert but I doubt you'd need it.
Mem
I think its not the problem that it don't work well in the front, but the problem is the mem. leak after a couple of hours my mem. schrinks with 10 mb after a soft reset it is ok again.
Heijdemann said:
I think its not the problem that it don't work well in the front, but the problem is the mem. leak after a couple of hours my mem. schrinks with 10 mb after a soft reset it is ok again.
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Have you check the Task Manager to see if there are any 'open' program? By default WM6 does not 'close' the application rather keeps it in the background. If you have a lot of application in the background, of course this will take up memory as well.
So far I do not experience any 'out of memory' problem. To me it doesn't matter if after a few hours of usage I have less memory (it might be WM6's way of keeping some portion of the application cached in the memory for faster recall??). Memory is there to be utilized. As long as WM6 knows how to free them up when I start a big application, then I am fine.
Memory being utilized is good memory, A lot of free memory but not being utilized is not good memory. At the end of the day it's the user experience that matters. If this is WM6's way of making the whole PDA more 'responsive', I'm happy to have this than to have a machine that is sluggish with a lots of free memory.
SPB Mobile Shell leaks memory
I loose memory just when my mobile is turned on.
I give SPB MObile Shell the blame...
jjplayground said:
I loose memory just when my mobile is turned on.
I give SPB MObile Shell the blame...
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Sorry for double post (also in Tips & Tricks) but:
With regard to SpB Mobile Shell, it may be worth leaving it to settle down a little.
I use SpB Diary, Phone Suite and Mobile Shell.
Due to the possible memory leak, I removed Mobile Shell for 3 days, but couldn't live without its functionality.
I reinstalled it on Monday evening, at which point, Memory was 22MB. By 8am it was down to 17.5MB, so I thought 'here we go again'; however, by 11am it was back to 18.5MB, and has stayed pretty much the same since, so I'm happy!
SpB Time still wont work- seems to create 2 alarms for the same time, so one activated with no sound; shutting that activates the 2nd with sound.
Chronos works fine (and much smaller footprint, if not so nice interface)
mobile shell = working
phone suite = working
weather = working
time = working
imageer = working
mun_rus rom
theranger said:
mobile shell = working
phone suite = working
weather = working
time = working
imageer = working
mun_rus rom
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Without the infamous memory-leak you mean ?
Cause i've found the leak to be not that annoying, apart from one thing i experienced yesterday: the Bluetooth of Trinity simply doesn't want to turn on if memory is below 20 Megs....
Moaske said:
Without the infamous memory-leak you mean ?
Cause i've found the leak to be not that annoying, apart from one thing i experienced yesterday: the Bluetooth of Trinity simply doesn't want to turn on if memory is below 20 Megs....
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can't say i've noticed any problems with memory showing 16 meg free for programes and 36 meg free in storage' and everthing seems to be working ok maybee i don't use it with that many apps running as some of you guys but i do love this rom so if their are any quirks i'll put up with them for now..
anyone get the gprs monitor today plugin to work?
I use SPB Shell, phone, time, GPRS monitor and phone, and I didn't notice any leak... All of them are inserted into SPB Shell, and everything work fine.
ROM Aus
Mobile Shell is known to kill battery and memory, but I know they released a newer version and I haven't heard any reviews on it and if they fixed those issues.
I use SPB Weather & Full Keyboard with no issues on WM6.
I also use spb mobile shell and I usually have 21 - 22 free memory, so I don't see any leak at all
Can someone please post their registry entry for the GPRS Monitor Today plugin? I have installed GPRS Monitor, and only the actual application is working. The Today plugin is not anywhere to be seen, not even in the today item settings. I have checked the registry and there is an entry there but it doesnt seem complete.
Thanks guys.
I use spb weather myself with no probs at all. Using AX3L's rom 2.0.7
SPB Mobile Shell officially released today (21-04-09)
Here is a link to download from their site directly
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/download.html
Adding RS Link
http://rapidshare.com/files/224551308/SpbMobileShell3.arm1.cab
This is an awesome shell so far I have used.
Can it be installed as a panel?
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Can it be installed as a panel?
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no it cant be used as a panel
I´ll wait for the Xperia one , thats generic for all .
it is very good, however the lifestyle wallpaper options are a bit limited, i copied one of the pictures and edited it to be black. I have to say it is a huge improvement on the previous version
Great program and totally workable outside of the panel interface. The today panel just replaces the need for a dedicated SPB panel, the only inconvenience being that it still runs in the background while other applications are active of course.
The only significant flaw and it is an annoying one, is that utilizing the facebook integration if you have a significant number of friends makes the phone almost unusable. I have close to 800 contact on FB and my phone literally takes 30-90 seconds to respond to input if I utilize any aspect of the facebook integration. If a name is not detected as associated automatically and you must select, it also makes you scroll through an entire graphical list. A task which can take 5 minutes instead of the 5 seconds it would if they let you type the contact name or search within your friends.
For myself the FB integration was an important features I am hoping they are able to better test and correct the existence of this behavior.
Dont work as a panel ?
Is it possible to keep the today screen of windows mobile ?
Sure, you can use the regular windows mobile today screen, and have SPB mobile shell as a program rather than as a panel. In fact, that's what I did with the previous version of mobile shell. I always found it to be a bit laggy as a panel, but it works great as a program.
I've just installed the trial version, and will likely buy it after trying it out for awhile. Looks great so far! I use TF3D, and it's one of the programs in my programs tab, so that I can access it quickly.
How about memory and speed
I've an old P3600. For me is very important to install programs that are speed and light. How about theese features between SPB Shell 2.15 (in use on my ppc) and 3.0?
Thanks
Hi all.
Maybe you already know, but there is already a 20 page + thread on Spb Mobile Shell 3.0:
xda-developers > General discussion > Development and Hacking
SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 - The Features....
I suggest where possible we try and share experiences on the one thread so that all valuable feedback can be found in the same location?
Mattster.
what build has the original ?
Build 6411
donbonone said:
High Quality "Wallpapers" for Today Screen (landscape support)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506411
High Quality "MOBILE SHELL 3.0" WALLPAPERS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507193
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Hi Donbonone.
The links in your signature lead to nowhere... just so you know. I found your wallpapers (thanks very much for them!) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507223
Mattster.
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it is very good, however the lifestyle wallpaper options are a bit limited, i copied one of the pictures and edited it to be black. I have to say it is a huge improvement on the previous version
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Hi there,
How did you change the wallpaper of the shell? I don't like it either, I want it black as well.
Regards
Edit: ok Got it. Thanks
Is anyone experiencing problems with the SMS/MMS icon not displaying messages recieved?
Everytime i recieve a text, it shows on the top of the windows task bar as normal but not on the SPB Shell itself, the missed calls icon works fine on it though
I'm using this on the Xperia X1
Any help on this would be grately appreciated.
SMS Icon
Not sure why it is not showing up in your device, Just tested with my Xperia & it is working fine. To isolate the issue please check by removing SPB mobile & reinstall again.
Regards
someone know how to DELETE the call history??
Delete Call History
Need to open dialer, select call history & delete from there or also you can go out from the shell & delete the call history.
Regards,
X1 is freezing panel button is clicked and spb mobile shell in installed
i downloaded the spb mobile shell 3. it works great but den i cant go to the panels page. the whole device freezs wen i click the panel button.
is dere an update for the spb shell to stop it from doin this coz the spb shell looks duuurrtttyyyyy on the x1!.
???
here is something that i need your opinions, and it concerns spb mobile shell 3 and manila. based on what i have seen on the forum, it appeares most people use manila a lot because when ever a cooked rom is released by any one of our master chefs there is always mention of either something not working on manila, and judging by the number of concerns that people have towards manila, it appeares to me that most people actually use it a lot. i myself however the first thing i do, when ever i flash a new rom is to disable touch flo, which i believe is manila and instead use state of the art spb mobile shell 3, however, i just need your own opinions as to why you would just either manila(touch flo) instead of spb mobile shell 3 thanks
i use spb about one month and my opinion is , a very good program!!!!
Personally, I disable TF3D on every rom as well. In fact, I look for the versions without TF3D.
I really like TF3D, how everything is laid out and how it gives really easy access to so much information and ties so deeply into everything... However... it is slow.
Every time I'd start up my device I'd have to load up each tab once into the ram so I'd get fluid movements when I need it. (Contacts tab takes several seconds to load up the first time.) Not only that, I found myself disabling nearly all the tabs. As cool as it was, it was just too heavy for me when I only need really basic information.
I used SPB Mobile shell 2 back on my Hermes for the longest time, nearly the entire lifespan of the device, truly a great program. (That was until TF2D came out, then everything changed.) Allowed really quick access to the most important information without getting in the way of normal windows mobile. Sadly it wasn't very pretty no matter how many skins one tried.
SPB Mobile Shell 3 however, seemed very awkward to me. Accessing simply information was a pain and involved complex maneuvers to get to something that should be very simple. The 3rd version while filled to the brim with eye candy is bloated for me. All I need is a today screen, calendar, contacts and programs. I don't need a carousel nor do I need an absurd amount of buttons or cool animations to get me there either.
My choice:
Titanium on wm6.5
It has enough eye candy for me and is very simple and very fast. I'd kill for a full calendar on the today screen, but thumbcal off the appointments tab does enough for me.
version i tried was ugly, unworthy of the screen and resolution HD has, also confusing, didn't like the layout, contacts look....actually, didn't like anything
TouchFlo is simpler and better looking, really shows the screen in all it's glory and i could spend time just flicking through it to see how pretty and smooth it is, the new calendar, weather tab, people tab, sms tab....i'm shallow :/
now i use Titanium, both pretty and easy to use and customize :/
I prefer Manila. I do not have bugs on my rom. I tried SPB MS 3 but it's not as smooth as manila, no way. Icons has to load every time, then I do not have the "smooth" impression. However, scrolling in MS 3 is very fast.
For now, Manila is the best interface I tried. This is just my personnal opinion, not a judgement of MS 3.
thanks a lot guys i have used spb for a while and i must admit the new version spb 3 is the best and it is very fast as well in my opinion. i think once you learn how to use it, it does become very easy to use, ecspecially the new widgets, but what then are the advantages you guys see in manila
SPB Mobile Shell 3
suisen said:
version i tried was ugly, unworthy of the screen and resolution HD has, also confusing, didn't like the layout, contacts look....actually, didn't like anything
TouchFlo is simpler and better looking, really shows the screen in all it's glory and i could spend time just flicking through it to see how pretty and smooth it is, the new calendar, weather tab, people tab, sms tab....i'm shallow :/
now i use Titanium, both pretty and easy to use and customize :/
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I don`t know which version you have tried, but if it has been version 3, I guess that your comment would be completely opposite. When you try the third version, and you still like better TouchFlo - then it is only question of taste...
it was, it was green, green should be illegal....those tabs at the bottom left and right are ugly, but nothing compared to those icons in between them Contacts tab cannot compare with the TF3D People tab, weather widget cannot compare to the weather tab, point by point it's just not as pretty, glossy, shiny, eye-candy, TF3D and Titanium are both a very functional eye-candy....everything is 1 or 2 pretty icons away
i like things simple but shiny, SPB MS is neither :/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3844438&postcount=1117
I am using both for about 4 weeks. Spb Mobile Shel 3.0 for work and Manila after work. I wish i could change the taskbar of spb to manila style or even to make the background complete black and not grey so i would use only spb.
I did try them all and right now I am using manila with certain tabs active ... sms, music, internet, photos and vids, progs and thats it. plus sometimes i activate a program that i just keep there for certain times its called winter face a very light smooth application that gives you an iphone like interface and its free.
i used spb keyboard and paid for it and replaced it now with fingerkeyboard which is free but far better and the same happened when i tried spb 2 and 3
now i have no spb application on my HD and i am happier
I think i will stick manila and winterface till i get Titanium on wm6.5 when winmo is officially out
I did try them all and right now I am using manila with certain tabs active ... sms, music, internet, photos and vids, progs and thats it. plus sometimes i activate a program that i just keep there for certain times its called vitto winter face; a very light smooth application that gives you an iphone like interface and its free.
i used spb keyboard and paid for it and replaced it now with fingerkeyboard which is free but far better and the same happened when i tried spb mobile shell 2 and 3
now i have no spb application on my HD and i am happier
Both TF3d better
I have used both .. answer :
TF3D is more intergrated eg with TXT's pictures and music .
with the shell you have use the phone own txt inbox and not the raher cute scroll in tf3d , this is the same with the music etc..
I want everything in one place .. and if possile not have to see the under bonet ..
I have to say, I persevered with TouchFlo but after putting the superior MobileShell on it's clear HTC have a long way to go before getting it right.
The front screen is just such a waste of space, if you could at least configure it to display mails, calls and a couple of shortcuts I'd be happier. If I want to know the time, I look at my watch!
So if anyone is new to TouchFlo and new to MobileShell then give it a try just to compare, you don't have to stick with TouchFlo at the end of the day.
Added bonus is that most of the apps and extra skinning still work without the today plugin enabled so it still looks pretty.
i tried and took out the SPB MS 3.0... have iswith my contact mgr.. i am back to touch flow
i switched from touchflo to spb mobile shell and im loving it! so much better than touch flo for me, i can actually get to my messages etc with a few less clicks!
I really like Spb MobileShell. Nomore TouchFlo for me.
i went with spb as well but changed back to touch flo. Touch flo has much mroe information readily available without needing to launch any addition apps. it is very functional. spb isnt bad but lacks some of the data i am looking for. If i didn't have touch flo i would certainly consider spb as a primary interface. defiantly worth a try for those who have yet to give it a go.
I works pretty well on my TP2.
I do prefer Touch Flo 3D2 because i really don't use the functions on Mobile Shell.
I was usin an iphone for the past 2 years.. ( since it came out )
when i saw the Tp2 i was really impressed
and decided to change...
never used a WM device before.. never had a smartphone before
besides the iphone.. so im kinda new on all of this...
when i saw the starting menu.. i was really surprise in a bad way..
being used to have all the app right there ( iphone )
and now having the touch flow... it was pretty awkward
for me, same day of having the TP2 i was lookin for cool apps
and found SPB.. and from there.. i never went back to touchflow!
im so happy usin the SPB
For those of you who are trying the phone with both TouchFlo, and without it, can you tell us how much RAM is available after a soft reset in both cases?
Thanks!
i was not sure wich memory i was supose to
tell you so heres both
Storage Total 277.60mb Free 71.35
and Program Total 187.61mb
free 86.99mb
this is usin SPB shell and after doin softreset.
im guessin the one u want is the second one..
wich is the one that uses the RAM...
Wow! If there's only 87Mb left, out of 288Mb RAM total, something is taking up a whole lot of memory. Could you try it again, after enabling the TouchFlo Today plugin, and disabling SpB?
Of course, none of this is critical if in fact the phone can run a half dozen apps or so, along with your favorite GUI, whether it be TouchFlo, or SpB, or SBSH. My iPaq gets down to about 40Mb free, out of 128Mb, and it doesn't seem to hinder it in any way. I use the SBSH interfaces on it. It runs WinMo 6.0 Classic.
Have you noticed whether or not the phone is as prone to memory leaks as other WinMo devices are? It wouldn't be the phone's fault if it were, it's more about WinMo than the hardware methinks.
Thanks for the reply!
yups, memory leak seems prevalent here. i only have the default programs running and available RAM drops to about 80+MB.
freeway4you said:
i was not sure wich memory i was supose to
tell you so heres both
Storage Total 277.60mb Free 71.35
and Program Total 187.61mb
free 86.99mb
this is usin SPB shell and after doin softreset.
im guessin the one u want is the second one..
wich is the one that uses the RAM...
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Isn't that storage capacity?
Try to soft reset and click on the topright icon and see what percentage it says.
The main issue I had with MS3 was the fact it can't interact with the bluetooth, so I'm sticking with TF3D until SPB can get MS3 fully compatuible with the TP2 (would be unfair to expect them to have it compatible at launch since they haven't had the phone for long enough to iron out the bugs!).
can you please post some SPB Mobile Shell 3 screenshots?
thedudelasse said:
I works pretty well on my TP2.
I do prefer Touch Flo 3D2 because i really don't use the functions on Mobile Shell.
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Hey, your vid-review of the pro 2 is great !!!
I order one and I hope that I get my pro 2 this week I like the touchflow more than the win 6.5 home screen on my kaiser, must test the touchflo on the toch pro 2.
greetings from Berlin
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Isn't that storage capacity?
Try to soft reset and click on the topright icon and see what percentage it says.
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yea thats what i did..
the second one i gave is the RAM not the Storage capacity.
hehe
hi
i HAVE O2 xda oRBIT, i mafacing a problem with it now, when i start the phone the windows is booting and the volume control come ups and then the phone hangs, i tried reseting and tried by removing batery nothing helped me.
can any one help me on this please.
thanks
baradhan said:
hi
i HAVE O2 xda oRBIT, i mafacing a problem with it now, when i start the phone the windows is booting and the volume control come ups and then the phone hangs, i tried reseting and tried by removing batery nothing helped me.
can any one help me on this please.
thanks
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Did this problem start right after you installed SPB Mobile Shell?
freeway4you said:
yea thats what i did..
the second one i gave is the RAM not the Storage capacity.
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Oh, lol,
Well, I got just TouchFlo3D and I have just a little more right after softreset.
Total: 188.21 MB
Free: 92.61
Switched to Mobile Shell as well because it offers much more individual editing of the screens, but I really miss the contacts and the SMS/MMS interface from TF3D.
Does anyone have a good recommendation?
THEIRS A NEW VERSION OF SPB MOBILE SHELL http://www.spbsoftware.com/products/mobileshell/ TO BE HONEST, I HAVE NEVER BOTHERED, ABOUT TOUCH FLO AND MANILA, CAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS, USED SPB, AND NOW THEY HAVE FACEBOOK AND TWITTER WIDGETS, BRAVO AND I NEVER HAVE BATTERY DRAIN AS WELL WITH SPB.
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THEIRS A NEW VERSION OF SPB MOBILE SHELL http://www.spbsoftware.com/products/mobileshell/ TO BE HONEST, I HAVE NEVER BOTHERED, ABOUT TOUCH FLO AND MANILA, CAUSE I HAVE ALWAYS, USED SPB, AND NOW THEY HAVE FACEBOOK AND TWITTER WIDGETS, BRAVO AND I NEVER HAVE BATTERY DRAIN AS WELL WITH SPB.
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Manila 2.5 is much much better ....
mobile shell since v2 its the same problems not finger frindly as manila 2.5
nice feactures but the same no sms app, alarm or calendar .. infornutaly uses windows app a terrible mistake again in M.shell v3.5
the new feactures are excelent customisation like android and a nice carrosel idetical to tegra UI but is still the same unfornutaly some times i need the stylus to go to calendar apointments, alarm and sms opens in windows ?????
a terrible mistake in this new version not finger frindly as manila 2.5 ....
mobile shell v3.5 to be perfect need 3part app for exemple vito sms chat , g-alarm and thumbcal ....
Agreed.
Even the simplicity of the music tab is missing. And using WMP produced huge load on the system.
From another hand the interface is more "Android" like which give more informative and comfortable screen.
I'll give a try. Combined with manila 2.1 though
A number of Mobile Shell threads already exist like these few. No need for another!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505365&highlight=mobile+shell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=531399&highlight=mobile+shell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512693&highlight=mobile+shell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520888&highlight=mobile+shell
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