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Hi everybody. Not yet bought such a device as I have first to understand wheter it is possible to install a Japanese windows. I need it to be able to read and write japanese characters and don't find a place where to find a device already equipped with such a software.
Also, does anyone know where an image of a japanese windows might be obtained ?
Thanks in advance to any one who will help.
Do you want to read/write Japanese, or for the entire OS to become Japanese?
If it's the former, you need the fonts containing Kanji, a set of registry entries to default fonts without unicode kanji chars to the Kanji fonts, and an IME that can do Kanji. A kanji dictionary is also useful.
If it's the latter, you need a Japanese ROM, and I doubt these devices have been released in Japan becauase of the different cell phone network protocols there.
More info on Fonts/IME/Dictionary here:
http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/prod/dialspace/town/pipexdsl/o/aoou76/CEStuff/
So, on using the phone in Japan...
Thanks Andy, nice of you and, excellent and pertaining answer. Let me go straight to my problem. I have to go to Japan for business and hope to use this device as a phone and as an e-mailer machine. You've answered for Kanji Hiragana and so on. I know that Japan uses W-DCMA as a protocol. Does anyone knows if it is possible to place a japanese SIM into it to make it operative there ?
An alternative would be to connect it (via BlueTooth) to a rent japanese phone, just for the e-mail.
Any Japanese reading this forum might pls, help?
Thanks in advance
Japanese on the English OS
i am japanese guy, and have been used Wallby--Himalaya--Blue Angel--Mini,with japanese language(OS is english, but can write/read/encoding to JP)
and also now tring to be localized Magneto WM2005.
i am very famouse guy (i hope) of the Japan/China Localization of English PPC.
To use Jpanese on ENG OS, need Japan font, replacing wince.nls=encoding inbox and IE,also font registry files, and encoding registry.
follows are my web site to show how i am fighting to be localize.(Japanese)
Home page;
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/
the cab files automatic localaziation i made
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/localizecab.htm
Instrudction of localization by manualy
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/Howto.htm
Intrudction of japanese input soft free/share
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/JP_SIP.htm
The DL link sources for the localization by manualy
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/NLS.htm
Also my Blog to be shown my PDA life
http://asukal.seesaa.net
I think those links make you happy!
I was in Japan last year for 3 weeks holiday (fantastic!), but my XDAII certainly wasn't able to connect to anything GSM/GPRS like over there. It was still invaluable to have as a PDA because of the Kanji dictionary program.
I hired a J-Phone temporarily while I was out there, but I don't know whether there are Bluetooth enabled ones out there allow the XDA to use the phone as a data modem.
Asukal - interesting website, I must parctice my Japanese more!
andyclap said:
I was in Japan last year for 3 weeks holiday (fantastic!), but my XDAII certainly wasn't able to connect to anything GSM/GPRS like over there. It was still invaluable to have as a PDA because of the Kanji dictionary program.
I hired a J-Phone temporarily while I was out there, but I don't know whether there are Bluetooth enabled ones out there allow the XDA to use the phone as a data modem.
Asukal - interesting website, I must parctice my Japanese more!
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Thanks!
Japan has no GSM, but has a W-CDMA, you can use W-CDMA phone with your country SIM card and W-CDMA/GSM dual Mobile Phone(such like a nokia 7600/6630). we have very few mobile Phone with Bluetooth in japan. so you had better bring your M Phone in japan.
while i am in japan,i use XdaO2 IIs+Nokia 7600 with china GSM SIM. it was not officail roaming (china Moble Co also dont know how to do), but it can be done. also Hong Kong SIM can.
if you wish to hire J-Phone<now they are Vodafon japan>, Nokia6630 and Sonny erricoson are available with Bluetooth. but those phone were sim locked. your own SIM will be rejected and must use J-Phone`s.
i am very await for the MDA-4 with W-CDMA will comming!
Thank you.
Thank you Andy. Thank you Asukal. You guys, have made me understand the matter. Now I understand that I have either to have an MDA IV (as soon as it is available) or have an MDA III plus a phone like a Nokia 6630 for when I am to Japan.
Thanks again, have a nice day.
Welcome to Japan
Mr,spinzolone>>>>
MDA IV, if it come with New OS WM2005, i can`t guarantee to enable Japanese encoding internet browsing and e-mail inbox .
In my test with Beta-WM2005,(also another chinese friend so) still cant do it currentry. but i hope it will be solved soon.
Asukal: One quick question - I'm having problems with my font-linking, notably "\". Do you have any idea what might be wrong?
I'm using XDAII, PPC2003, with the ttc font collections rather than individual files. I've checked your registry files and the linking information seem the same as mine.
Hints for Japan ...
Dear Asukal, so do you think that with a iPAQ MM2003(first or second edition) patched for displaying japanese characters, and a Nokia 6630 I'll be able to send/receive e-mail while in Japan?
And, for a matter of costs, would you suggest to buy a SIM in Japan rather than roaming from Japan to Italy?
Any other hint for a European guy?
Thanks again a lot. Domo arigato
Elio
Mr,andyclap> "\" will show on Jpanese Localized deveise as "Yen" mark.
following is the registry to make localize to JAPAN, i use.
EGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\International]
"ACP"=dword:000003a4
"LCID"=dword:00000411
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\International]
"Default_CodePage"=dword:000003a4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI\GLYPHCACHE]
"Limit"=dword:00004000
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Charset\x-sjis]
"AliasForCharset"="shift-jis"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Keyboard Layout\Preload\1]
@="e0010411"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method\Hot Keys\00000030]
"Ime"=dword:e0010411
"KM"=dword:0000c400
"VK"=dword:00000019
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Ime]
"FileName"=""
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010411]
"Layout Text"="KBD e0010411"
"Ime File"=""
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI]
"FontLinkMethods"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI\V1\SYSFNT]
"CS"=dword:00000080
"Wt"=dword:00000190
"Ht"=dword:fffffff4
"Nm"="tahoma"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{A877D663-239C-47a7-9304-0D347F580408}]
"Wave"="lowbatt"
"Duration"=dword:00000000
"Options"=dword:00000000
"Default"="Battery Warning"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\FontLink\SkipTable]
"Tahoma"="005c,00a5,007e,0391-03c9,2026,2116,221a,25a0-25ff"
"Courier New"="005c"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Symbol"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
"Times New Roman"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
"Courier New"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
"Arial"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
"Tahoma"="\\Windows\\msgothic.ttc,MS PGothic"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip]
"MenuBarHeight"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Menu]
"BarLMrg"=dword:00000006
"BarRMrg"=dword:00000006
"BarTMrg"=dword:00000002
"EatDismissEvent"=dword:00000001
"Overlap"=dword:00000060
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Menu\BarFnt]
"Wt"=dword:00000190
"Ht"=dword:fffffff4
"Nm"="Tahoma"
"HtInPts"=dword:00000001
"It"=dword:00000000
"CS"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Menu\PopFnt]
"Wt"=dword:00000190
"Ht"=dword:fffffff4
"Nm"="Tahoma"
"HtInPts"=dword:00000001
"It"=dword:00000000
"CS"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI\SYSFNT]
"Nm"="Tahoma"
"HtInPts"=dword:00000001
"It"=dword:00000000
"CS"=dword:00000000
"Ht"=dword:fffffff4
"Wt"=dword:00000190
Simply you can down load "Lets Japan.CAB" 4.5MB from follows, and tap it on the device, "Yes" to all if you asked. MSGothic.ttc and wince.nls, and also regostry will be installed automaticaly.
http://www.asukal.jp/Asukal Lets Japan.cab
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spinzolone said:
Dear Asukal, so do you think that with a iPAQ MM2003(first or second edition) patched for displaying japanese characters, and a Nokia 6630 I'll be able to send/receive e-mail while in Japan?
And, for a matter of costs, would you suggest to buy a SIM in Japan rather than roaming from Japan to Italy?
Any other hint for a European guy?
Thanks again a lot. Domo arigato
Elio
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i e-mailed u last night about Japanese input Atok, also i made cab files of another Japanese SIP "POBOX" which has predictive input system.
Just tap this CAB to install,Reginal setting must be Japanese when you install and use this.(also only can use after Localize to Japan)
down load from here
http://www.asukal.jp/JapanSIP.cab
about SIM in Japan, Japan has no prepaid SIM card. you must make conract for a year! it was cost and troublesome for forginer.(ask some japanese friend to buy his name, US$100 at the first and US$30 per every mounth. One year contract.
So i suggest use your italy SIM.
Thanks a lot Asukal, it was a joy to me to receive your quick reply yesterday evening. I've followed you suggestions and now I have a HP hx2410 - Windows Mobile 2003 se v. 4.21 perfectly "japanized".
Showed it to the Japanese manager who's going to use it and he was very satisfied.
P.S. We were told from a japanese guy that, when we go to Japa we can make contract with DOCOMO or VODAFONE. Particularly with DOCOMO, asking for a contrat FOMA we should receive a SIM card.
You know, it is not that I want to have SIM cards. To me it's enough that my phone NOKIA 6630 works there. But I'm to send a manager there and I'd better instruct him on what to do to make connections in Japan.
If you could confirm that, no matter which contract (with or without SIM card), we can work, this would bring a smile on our faces.
Have a nice day
Elio
HELP!
HELP fellas, I am the other way around! I bought a Chinese O2 XdaIIs and i can't read chinese (but only chinese available here for sale). I thought I can easily change it to english but i guess i won't be here if that's the case. Can anyone help me out? I'm a decent PC guy but never worked with PPCs..HELP!!!!
C4
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c4Lvin said:
HELP fellas, I am the other way around! I bought a Chinese O2 XdaIIs and i can't read chinese (but only chinese available here for sale). I thought I can easily change it to english but i guess i won't be here if that's the case. Can anyone help me out? I'm a decent PC guy but never worked with PPCs..HELP!!!!
C4
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Many Kinds of English ROM were uploaded to XdaO2-Developers.com,
You can download and write engish rom on your chinese rom.
You can srech relative thread about that(for link of DL, or how to write rom)
If i had time, i can find for you but now i am on business travel now, no time to do.
Or you sale it and buy again! because if you re-write rom, no more guarantte by devise vender.
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Asukal said:
spinzolone said:
Dear Asukal, so do you think that with a iPAQ MM2003(first or second edition) patched for displaying japanese characters, and a Nokia 6630 I'll be able to send/receive e-mail while in Japan?
And, for a matter of costs, would you suggest to buy a SIM in Japan rather than roaming from Japan to Italy?
Any other hint for a European guy?
Thanks again a lot. Domo arigato
Elio
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i e-mailed u last night about Japanese input Atok, also i made cab files of another Japanese SIP "POBOX" which has predictive input system.
Just tap this CAB to install,Reginal setting must be Japanese when you install and use this.(also only can use after Localize to Japan)
down load from here
http://www.asukal.jp/JapanSIP.cab
about SIM in Japan, Japan has no prepaid SIM card. you must make conract for a year! it was cost and troublesome for forginer.(ask some japanese friend to buy his name, US$100 at the first and US$30 per every mounth. One year contract.
So i suggest use your italy SIM.
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Asukal-san,
Would you mind send "Atok" to me too? I'm using iPAQ 2210. I want to use japanese in my PDA becoz I'm learning japanese now. I'm looking for a better Japanese SIP. I'd used Atok in my Sony Clie. Its quite good. And Decuma Japnese is the other great Japanese SIP.
Anyway, Thx Asukal-san provied us very useful information about Japanese in PDA.
Shinji
Morning!
I send you a private message.
one of link patch of atok for WM2003 was wrong.
http://www.asukal.jp/Atok_2003_patch.zip is right one.
other japanese localize cab files i made,can downlaod from here
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/localizecab.htm
some SIP for CHinese support to Japanese input like follows
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/Multi_SIP.htm
Also new SIP soft like a T9 chinese of GSM mobile ,called Plum SIP for simple chinese, now i made Japanese option for that. and they will provie.
this is very nice! and i love it.(but not for Traditional chinese)
but japanese DIC for Plum SIP is not perfect now and we make perfect dictionary for that.
pls see my Blog!!
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/3893465.html
The japaese set for PlumSIP is from
http://www.new-e.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=225&PN=1
(SATO=my another name)
pls visit my blog any time about PDA/GSM/and china life(japanese only)
http://asukal.seesaa.net
also home page for the PDA about PDA
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader
Asukal said:
Morning!
I send you a private message.
one of link patch of atok for WM2003 was wrong.
http://www.asukal.jp/Atok_2003_patch.zip is right one.
other japanese localize cab files i made,can downlaod from here
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/localizecab.htm
some SIP for CHinese support to Japanese input like follows
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader/Localize/Multi_SIP.htm
Also new SIP soft like a T9 chinese of GSM mobile ,called Plum SIP for simple chinese, now i made Japanese option for that. and they will provie.
this is very nice! and i love it.(but not for Traditional chinese)
but japanese DIC for Plum SIP is not perfect now and we make perfect dictionary for that.
pls see my Blog!!
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/3893465.html
The japaese set for PlumSIP is from
http://www.new-e.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=225&PN=1
(SATO=my another name)
pls visit my blog any time about PDA/GSM/and china life(japanese only)
http://asukal.seesaa.net
also home page for the PDA about PDA
http://www.geocities.jp/asukal_trader
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Asukal-san,
Thx your support!!! You are really nice for me ^o^
I have other problem in localize. I'm using english iPAQ 2210. I need to use traditional chinese and japanese. I found your web site have simplified chinese + japanese localize. Would you kindly make a traditional chinese version??
Arigarou!!
Shinji
Dou itashimasite!
Any way,
if used my osurces to make it, already traditional chinese have been done with Simple chinese and Japanese together.
Mybe you are missing to input soft ware for the Traditinal Chinese,right?
You can yuse Monstar SIP(only SIP) or some other input system.
http://www.hi-pda.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=215892&sid=pzcAoc
you can download Hand writing soft .
You also see for this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=120453#120453
Asukal said:
Dou itashimasite!
Any way,
if used my osurces to make it, already traditional chinese have been done with Simple chinese and Japanese together.
Mybe you are missing to input soft ware for the Traditinal Chinese,right?
You can yuse Monstar SIP(only SIP) or some other input system.
http://www.hi-pda.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=215892&sid=pzcAoc
you can download Hand writing soft .
You also see for this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=120453#120453
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Asukal-san,
Would u mind tell me which file already have Tradition Chinese and Japanese? Is it Asukal e-chinaV3 or Asukal e-chinaV+?? Pls put the direct link let me download it ok? I already installed SIP from Monstart and PenPower. Please advice.
Shinji
Hi every one,
I am facing some truble with reading sms/mms/email ... since i'm in israel, i recieve some messages in hebrew but i cannot read them since instead of hebrew fonts i get little boxes (each letter is a square) . does anybody knows how to install another font so that the OS will recognize incoming messages ?
i know there is a company that alters the entire OS into hebrew (EYRON i think), but i do not wish to do so. i just want to be able to read/see hebrew fonts...
thanks and have a nice weekend everyone.
Glad to see I am not the only one with the same problem...
I regularly get non-english SMS's. UNfortunately I cant even forward them to a phone with does have the fonts.... I am forced to carry around a second phone (T68i) just for receiving SMS's,,,,
mayb thz is in chinese or jpn text
or u can try cestar to sort it out
hope it can help
Yol said:
i know there is a company that alters the entire OS into hebrew (EYRON i think), but i do not wish to do so. i just want to be able to read/see hebrew fonts...
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Ok, I have done a bit more research on this.
There is a way of installing Hebrew fonts (TTS type)
BUT
that wont solve your problem UNLESS you are prepared to read hebrew backwards
http://www.wince.co.il
is one site to look at but rather incomplete...
http://www.pocketpc.co.il
is the other but no english....
There is a way of installing Hebrew fonts (TTS type)
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Could you please let us know how to install Hebrew fonts ? As a start I won't mind reading it backwards.
i have a MDA PRO T-Mobile bought from germany in german language and keyboard.
i just installed english rom. everything in english now but the keyboard of MDA PRO is in german design. when i press FN + a key it is writing another word.
is there a way to assign the keyborad to german style and use the rom in english ?
You could buy my MDA Pro casing with UK keyboard pattern:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140010946515
Or I could supply an XDA Exec UK keyboard pattern seperatley buy it may look out of place :-(
Richard
Beloved sig. Perhaps Richard,
you forgets that I have not received nothing, perhaps she forgets that only it can ask the reimbursement from the mail, perhaps she believes that people are stupid not to understand when a person brails up, paypal ask only a copy for the receipt, she originates them to it ALWAYS remain and HOWEVER to the person whom she sends like valid test. It sure will be called to show the test of happened shipment, in court and I will demonstrate that it is denying my right to me to having a reimbursement for the goods never received.
It is calm, I am already obtaining the better thing, to make to see that dishonest and strafottente person is she. In court I will have other satisfactions.
I add:
it must have shame with this behavior with the customers.
I honestly did not understand the ansers I saw until now.
I use a German origin with an english rom, change
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\Querty to Value 66567 and You are back to Gerrman KB.
Ruud Westerhout said:
I honestly did not understand the ansers I saw until now.
I use a German origin with an english rom, change
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\Querty to Value 66567 and You are back to Gerrman KB.
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thanks for the helpful info. could you please inform in MDA PRO wm5 where can i find that registry file ? with which software can i find that file ?
Hi fuhayer,
this is not a file, but a registry entry. You will need a registry-editor.
I use Resco Explorer for this purpose, but it is not free-ware. Search around here or google a little to find a registry-editor for your pda if You do not have one.
Good luck
Ruud
Ruud Westerhout wrote:
I honestly did not understand the ansers I saw until now.
I use a German origin with an english rom, change
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\Querty to Value 66567 and You are back to Gerrman KB.
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By any chance, is it somebody who can help me with the value for the Italian Keyboard?
Tank you anyway!
re-locate buttons to itself
install this file and SR then
Does anybody know a way to install T9 or the newer version from the Dash on the S620? I really like the word-completion feature of my other smartphones and PPC's.
Thanks!
we'll probably have to wait until someone extracts the extrom of the dash rom
Careful what you wish for
why did you buy the S620 if it is to put T9 on it?
The only benefit of this smartphone is the full qwerty keyboard, it sounds a bit strange to want to restrict yourself to the numeric pad to type your messages?
It's actually the newer xT9, you're not restriced to the numeric keys -- it predicts as you're typing words with the qwerty keyboard. Future versions might be more useful, but I find it more of a hinderance now. There's no way to configure it or edit the dictionary, it kicks in when you don't necessarily want it to and memorizes passwords, as well as showing them while you're entering them. Where ever the dictionary resides, mine is full of typos and passwords. Would be nice if you could uninstall or just shut it off. You can press ALT then SPACE and switch to just letter entry, but at some point it'll come back...
unlockMe said:
why did you buy the S620 if it is to put T9 on it?
The only benefit of this smartphone is the full qwerty keyboard, it sounds a bit strange to want to restrict yourself to the numeric pad to type your messages?
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I understand that T9 is directed more towards standard phone keyboards, but I use it on my Hermes all the time. When typing a long email, the word completion can save time.
T9 dictionary edit
I am super annoyed by wrong words being added to the T9 dictionary!
I tried using the msT9Ed.exe, but it seems to not find the correct file.
I did find a file called "eT9Cdb.cdb" in the Windows folder, but don't know if this is the right thing to edit.
Anyone found something lately to edit the T9 dictionary?
newer xT9
chaznet said:
It's actually the newer xT9, you're not restriced to the numeric keys -- it predicts as you're typing words with the qwerty keyboard. Future versions might be more useful, but I find it more of a hinderance now. There's no way to configure it or edit the dictionary, it kicks in when you don't necessarily want it to and memorizes passwords, as well as showing them while you're entering them. Where ever the dictionary resides, mine is full of typos and passwords. Would be nice if you could uninstall or just shut it off. You can press ALT then SPACE and switch to just letter entry, but at some point it'll come back...
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Hi All
Great site
my first post so forgive me now.
I have only just got a s620 phone and very new to it all, so learing all the time.
love the phone.
I just have a cab file that I put on my sd card and install it, it has languges english french germanitalian spanish dutch czech greek romanian polish portuguese slovak turkish hungarian in the language options, i have version v01.01 dont know how old this is or if a new version is about.
But I had to put on xT9 as after a rom upgrade my key pad was all messed up and being a newbie not knowing much at all this may be off subject but any one give me a link I can read or any help as to why?
thanks
Ill now go on reading to see if i can find any thing out myself
thatnks for yu time
leggoman said:
Hi All
Great site
my first post so forgive me now.
I have only just got a s620 phone and very new to it all, so learing all the time.
love the phone.
I just have a cab file that I put on my sd card and install it, it has languges english french germanitalian spanish dutch czech greek romanian polish portuguese slovak turkish hungarian in the language options, i have version v01.01 dont know how old this is or if a new version is about.
But I had to put on xT9 as after a rom upgrade my key pad was all messed up and being a newbie not knowing much at all this may be off subject but any one give me a link I can read or any help as to why?
thanks
Ill now go on reading to see if i can find any thing out myself
thatnks for yu time
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I think this is what you need to fix your keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2271723&postcount=1
Both fixes in sig as depends on location US or UK?
After install reboot, then in text input box FN+Space ABC.
xt9
stylez said:
Both fixes in sig as depends on location US or UK?
After install reboot, then in text input box FN+Space ABC.
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thanks for the reply
and Im kind of getting the hang of things now with this phone.
just one thing, I will search and see if i can find it, but if you read this could you place a link in you reply where i can find UK.English xt9? I saw this in your reply and is just what I need as I have the US version.
OPPS it is a link in your post silly me LOL thats what sig ment
thanks again for your help. all working great now
great site so much info and help
According to Microsoft evangelist Martin Esmann from Microsoft Denmark, the phone will also launch in Denmark in October.
However, the phone will not have a localized Marketplace, so only the international marketplace will be available. But Zune Marketplace will not be available in October in Denmark
Source: (Danish) http://www.computerworld.dk/blog/studblog/100275
Just talked to another from Microsoft Denmark, yep, it's clearly launching here in October as well.
I hope this means we will get Windows Phone 7 in Sweden in October too
Windcape said:
only the international marketplace will be available. [/url]
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What in the world does this mean? There's "World view" in Marketplace which means you can buy apps from any market if you want. The problem is adding a credit card for that, because you'll need an address in a country which is officially supported.
Another question is, will it have Danish dictionaries? Does it mean that official "Language support" only describes display language?
vangrieg said:
What in the world does this mean? There's "World view" in Marketplace which means you can buy apps from any market if you want. The problem is adding a credit card for that, because you'll need an address in a country which is officially supported.
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Denmark will be officially supported, but we'll be forced to use the marketplace in English until the Danish translations are out.
So what I'm thinking is the WP7 will "launch" (be available for purchase) in several more than the 17 announced countries, but won't have localizations ready for the marketplace, and possible have Zune limits.
They'll probably accept VISA, which everybody have here. Paying with cash is left for 3rd world countries like USA
vangrieg said:
Another question is, will it have Danish dictionaries? Does it mean that official "Language support" only describes display language?
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Can't say.
Windcape said:
Denmark will be officially supported, but we'll be forced to use the marketplace in English until the Danish translations are out.
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That's not support of Danish marketplace sorry, everybody just gets access to any marketplace he wants, there's nothing new there. If it's not supported you just can't enter your credit card details. So I think there's some confusion there.
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That's not support of Danish marketplace sorry, everybody just gets access to any marketplace he wants, there's nothing new there. If it's not supported you just can't enter your credit card details. So I think there's some confusion there.
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No, they said that we're meant to be able to buy applications from day one. We'll also be able to SELL applications from day one, as Danish developers!
It's only localization that's missing.
Well, developers from Russia can sell applications from day one as well, registration is open here and it was announced initially. You have some big (in WM terms) names here like SPB Software, so Microsoft made sure they can sell stuff.
With regard to localization, don't you ever use Danish? At work, for example?
Depends if it's necessary. If we can get away with English, it's usually fine
So it is necessary sometimes. And how are you going to type things when it is?
huh? I don't understand what you mean here? We can still write localization support for the individual applications, even the marketplace isn't localized yet.
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huh? I don't understand what you mean here?
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I mean the keyboard and the autocorrection dictionaries, who cares about UI languages (that is, I do, but I'll use English anyway).
No idea if the phones will be sold with language support, I was mostly worrying about the marketplace.
But we use the roman alphabet, so it's not that big a hassle.
What about æ, ø and å? Does QWERTY layout work as well for you as it does for English? What about autocorrection? I mean, I understand you can use it, but isn't it a hassle to dig two levels deep each time you need to type that special character?
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What about æ, ø and å? Does QWERTY layout work as well for you as it does for English? What about autocorrection? I mean, I understand you can use it, but isn't it a hassle to dig two levels deep each time you need to type that special character?
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You just need to hold the "o" button in 2 secs (or something like that) to get up characters like ø and ö. The same with "a" to get å, ä and æ.
We use QWERTY layout in both Sweden and Denmark.
Even if it's not localized, we can use Old Scandinavia, such as oe = ø, aa = å, ae = æ, or use umlaut to represent the same characters.
Best news for a long time
This is great news, I do personally not care to much about the danish keyboard layout, as long as the characters is possible to find, it is not much different from my old Blue Angel. I just hope that I will be able to bay one of those with a slide out keyboard.
Looking forward to Mango
Do you think you guys will jump straight onto Mango then? Or will you 7.0 devices which get updated pretty soon after to 7.1?
Casey
My Omnia 7 already has NoDo so... Mango ASAP