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[ROM][New video demos]Schap's 5.00 ROMs with TouchXperience UI-Call to beta testers

As some of you know, I am currently working on a touch user interface (since more than 10 months), fully compatible with HTC Diamond, it even takes advantage of G-sensor and touch-sensitive control pad, and I plan to develop a 3D user interface in a future version.
I will prepare soon a private beta, and if there is no major issue I would like to release a first public version in about 2 weeks. But please don’t take too much into consideration this date, be aware that contrary to other ROM cookers who only take programs from other ROMs I have developed the whole user interface from scratch, so it’s a really huge work (more than 1000 hours at the moment) and it’s hard to fix a release date.
As for other devices, Diamond ROMs will be multilingual and available in two versions: Full (with TouchXperience User Interface) and Lite (maximal storage space).
I am looking for some motivated and experienced people to participate to this private beta. I need only about 20 people so I will choose first people who could really help me, better is if you have WM cooking or development knowledges. I don’t want to get thousands of messages asking “please please send me the ROM” like it was in the other threads, so please don’t ask me to participate if you don’t have solid arguments. If you are interested, let me a post here (explaining in what you are good, if I don’t know you) and I will contact you later by PM if you are selected.
More info about TouchXperience User Interface and video demos:
http://www.touchxperience.com/
TouchXperience is the Next Generation User Interface for Windows Mobile, finger friendly and highly customizable, it offers many interesting features: program launcher, contacts manager, home screen, appointments, messaging, task manager, profile and event manager, call log, control panel, communication manager,...
TouchMenu is probably the most powerful and customizable menu, replacing original Start Menu for an innovative touch interface. TouchMenu supports finger scrolling and gestures, for example you can switch from a menu to another by sliding your finger left/right, or display context menu by a long press on the screen. You can also scroll menus using G-sensor. Each menu has four different views (large list, small list, large grid, small grid). As the rest of the future user interface, TouchMenu has a nice Vista/WM7 look.
TouchMenu has various built-in menus :
- All Programs (Start Menu replacement)
- Active Programs (Task Manager)
- Recent programs
- Favorite programs
- Settings (Control Panel)
- Documents
- Favorite websites
- Contacts
- Messaging
- Appointments
- Tasks
- Calls (Call Log)
- Communications (Comm. Manager)
- RSS feeds
- Power Actions
- End Actions
- One Touch Settings
But you can do much more by creating your own custom menus where you can add contacts, program shortcuts, website links, system actions (for example: reset device, rotate screen, sound profile, clock, brightness backlight, WMP status,...) or links to other menus. You can also replace icon for each program/folder/contacts/menu with a custom image.
TouchHome is a fully customizable screen where you can add various widgets and graphical elements (clocks, indicators, today items, texts, images,...). By default, TouchHome displays when you turn your phone on. You can make your own graphics and layout using XML. TouchHome can be also used as screen unlocker (unlock screen by sliding finger, by double tapping, by shaking device, using navigation scroll wheel,...).
Use GPS or cell-based geo-positioning to determine current location and create profiles for each location.
Custom Events is a powerful application which execute predefined actions when custom events occur. The principle is simple, each custom event is defined by:
- A basic event (application changed, location changed, new message, new incoming call, battery charging, device cradled, headset connected, Wi-Fi network detected, internet connection detected, ,...)
- Eventually some conditions (date/time, current application, current location, specific words in message, caller identity,...)
- An action (launch application, display notification, enable flight mode, turn on Wi-Fi, change profile, send message, ,...)
There will be hundreds of events and actions, so possibilities are very large! Here are some examples:
- Enable flight mode during nights
- Connect to Wi-Fi while battery is charging
- Deactivate alarm when I turn my device face down
- Put phone in silent mode at workplace
- Remind me to buy bread when I’m near to the bakery
Supports finger gestures on touch-sensitive control pad (experimental, for HTC Touch Diamond/Touch Pro only) to execute different system actions, in this way you can have up to 8 “virtual buttons” on your device.
Supports display auto-rotation navigation using G-sensor (experimental, for HTC Touch Diamond/Touch Pro only).
TouchXperience User Interface is designed for a future usage of hardware accelerated 3D graphics for an outstanding experience!
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WOW!!
Good to see you......Let me know what I can do for you
Peace
Mike

very nice shaps! I hope this post will be more serious and wont end like ur thread in hermes forum..
Realease it when it's done! no preasure!

Schaps!!! Count me in mate... great to see you here.

WOW! i can't wait. Looking forward to your work.

Cool!!!
Looks great!!!!
Tell me if you need a beta tester for this project...

i would be glad to help

Sounds really really nice.
If I can be of any help I'll be glad to, comes from Hermes and Kaiser and now has Diamond.
Tried some of your roms before and liked some, but not all, but this seems really exciting.
Garcia

Network and database admin here (though mostly unix). Lemme know what needs to be done.
^.^
Good luck schaps.

Sounds great. I'm happy to check this for ya.

I'd like to volunteer, I have experience with graphics.

Count Me In... Deeep Within !!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS!!!!!!! (sorry 4 the caps) but this is coooollll!!!!!

Very Very Good Schap's

I can Help
Hello mate,
I have cooked (mostly my own) ROMs for Elf, Niki and Cruise so I have considerable background on the components of the WM OS and the overall structure of the devices (not so much the Diamond to be honest as I'm still trying to get to understand its internals).
If you like, I would more than willing to help out with Beta testing whether it's to focus on a specific area or just overall testing. I also have experience in QA so I can pick out little things that need ironing out
Cheers from Dubai!

WOAH! Schaps, this sounds awesome. I'd be happy to beta test your TouchXperience UI. Coming from an iPhone background, I'd love to see more thumb/finger friendliness in our Diamonds.
EDIT: Checked out the site and the screenshots and it looks fab so far !
Couple of questions, would there be a new finger/thumb friendly Calendar app? (I totally despise the stock WM one) Also, do you plan on integrating a more thumb friendly keyboard for input? The standard Diamond one is okay but I tend to be a fast typer and because the screen on the Diamond is relatively small, it is prone to keystroke errors and the Diamond keyboard does not have any type of correction method (i.e. as included with the PCM Keyboard - I use this but a lack of VGA skins is highly disappointing).
All in all I can't wait to test this - I thought the Diamond would have been more thumb/finger friendly but tend to find myself pulling out the dreaded stylus now and then.. Something I hoped I could have gotten away from. Cheers for the great effort Schaps!

WOW
Love to test the new interface.

Moral Support!!
Schap,
im not a pro in any of these programming. But at least i can sent some moral supports!!
It's a great development All the best to you

Very nice ...I will pleasure, when i test this program...

schaps said:
P.S.: I will soon work on a new Advanced Config. version fully compatible with Touch Diamond and Touch Pro. Advanced Configuration Tool V3 will come with a new finger-friendly interface.
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@ Schaps, could you look into the possibility to add "default mediaplayer chooption" in order to link Bluetooth devices to other players not forcing to use WMP linked with TF3D .
There is a cab out there from RuffRuff (still need to test it) , but including this possible solution in AdvConfig V3 would be a big added value.
As for the Beta testing , it starts to look like recruting for La Legion etrangere (The Foreign Legion)
People want but how many can give ?
Anyway, success with the new UI + Rom combination. Looking forward.

Make your HD completely finger-friendly!

I've made some efforts to completely replace all the standard Windows Mobile applications on my Touch HD with finger-friendly ones that offer fluid scrolling.
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg2XlNNt3vE
Newest video with WAD themes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iV3wNMqcj8
You can also continue using TouchFlo3D together with all the other finger-friendly apps in the package!
Use SSMaPa to make them default: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=407777
You can make even better skins with Wisbar Advance Desktop.
Other than Winterface, it completely replaces the today screen, offers the (imo) beautiful iPhone-like launch animation and is completely customizable.
It produces less battery drain and is more stable than Winterface.
As it completely replaces the today screen, you can embed any shortcuts, today plugins, all kinds of status icons (e.g. RSS, weather, tasks, wifi...) and you can choose whether to display the taskbar and/or bottom bar or hide them.
There are some beautiful WAD skins in this forum, but I chose to make one myself because I wanted to have the launch animations.
You have to put some effort into it but Wisbar Advance Desktop is really great and better than Winterface, in my opinion, which produced crashes and did only sit on top of the today screen instead of replacing it.
Well, back to my package. I thought I'd share it with you:
You can download the whole package with instructions (includes shareware) from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/189790264/Touch_HD_UI_Package.zip
Additional application you might like:
FingerMenu: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459125
Package will be updated from time to time.
Update:
- tutorial for making apps default (Explorer, Player, Calendar etc.)
- added Kinoma FreePlay (great media player)
- updated some of the applications

maati said:
I've made some efforts to completely replace all the standard Windows Mobile applications on my Touch HD with finger-friendly ones that offer fluid scrolling.
Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg2XlNNt3vE
Thought I'd share the package.
You can download the whole package with instructions (includes shareware) from here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/186097310/Touch_HD_UI_Package.zip
Additional application you might like:
FingerMenu: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459125
Package will be updated from time to time.
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Finger friendly but not user friendly
In fact ,I don't like iphone style, just like the shourtcut on desktop

Why? It makes my Touch HD a lot easier to use! So yes, it's user friendly.

Nice ! Will be sure to test it.
If someone wants a user-friendly phone, please go buy iphone instead. The reason I bought HD was of its hardware / screen and the unlimited possibilities to change everything / code without owning a stupid mac.
Thanks again for this awesome package.

zerokewl said:
Nice ! Will be sure to test it.
If someone wants a user-friendly phone, please go buy iphone instead. The reason I bought HD was of its hardware / screen and the unlimited possibilities to change everything / code without owning a stupid mac.
Thanks again for this awesome package.
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It's not the reason to do not transform the HTC in a finger friendly phone with hardware and screen that roxxxx

it's really awesome, seen on your HD. But on mine i've never seen something more unstable than Vito apps: it's a continuous crash, it runs in full screen, it takes control of the device and overrides everyting. it's a pity, since winterface has really a good look. But i have bought a wm device to HAVE control, and with winterface i feel i have an iphone in my hands

Looks really good!!

Did you add this for chat?

nice work maati might give it a try just to see what it's like....

You can also watch the video.
I will probably add Throttlelauncher and FingerMenu to the next version (ThrottleLauncher has just been updated for WVGA).
Perhaps I can also find some easy to use IM application (does Pigeon still crash?).

That's a really nice idea and an interesting set of applications. Thanks for sharing those - there are some (like TaskFacade) that I wasn't aware of before.

How do you assign TaskFacade to a button?

How on earth do you install these themes for Winterface?
There is no Skin or Theme icon in Winterface and I can't find anywhere on the net how to install a skin.
Can someone please help?

sosojerk said:
How on earth do you install these themes for Winterface?
There is no Skin or Theme icon in Winterface and I can't find anywhere on the net how to install a skin.
Can someone please help?
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check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455254

xb00t said:
How do you assign TaskFacade to a button?
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MagicMobile, given in the pack...

Sounds good unable to download from rapidshare can anyone help or is there another link? thanks.

Great inspiration thanx
Questions
- How do i edit the icons in Winterface? or is there a place i can download differet icon.bmp ?
I have tryid in Adobe Photoshop, but when i save it and copy it to the phoen, the icons is scratched over with colored lines?
Regards Michael

I am at work and I cannot download from rapidshare, so out of curiosity, what application is included for emails?

HIS CURRENT SETUP :
- user interface: Vito Winterface
- contacts: iContact
- music: PocketPlayer and S2P
- videos: HTC Album (hardware accelerated for .mp4 video!) and CorePlayer
- music recognition: Shazam Music ID
- photos: HTC Album
- calendar: ThumbCal
- file manager: Resco Explorer und Totalcommander
- messenger: Palringo
- translator: w0lf's Translator
- HD as WiFi-router: WMWiFiRouter
- alarm clock: G-Alarm
- stopwatch: G-Watch
- function plotter/calculator/equation solver: RealCalculator
- WVGA to VGA: WVGAFix3
- weather: Viigo and iAltWeather
- backup: SPB Backup 2
- navigation: Navigon MN7 with WVGA patch
- display rotation: Flip-IT
- task switcher: TaskFacade (Dynamo 3)

Thanks
I was kind of hoping for a good finger friendly email application. Something like Vito SMS Chat but for emails.

[DISCUSSION] Can we live without Manila/TouchFlo?

I've been toying with the idea of changing to a WM6.5 based ROM, either Miri's or Davideuck's, but I'm so happy with Dutty's Xtreme ROMs that it's going to be a wrench if I do. I love the functionality of TF3D but find it annoying that you have to have a 3rd party UI running on top of Windows just to get a reasonable-looking and easy-to-navigate interface.
The thing that bugs me is the whole Titanium vs Manila thing. Personally, I can't see the point in having both TF3D and the Titanium home screen installed on the phone at the same time.
The Titanium home screen is simple and elegant but links to standard naff-looking WinMo apps (calendar, photos) whilst TF3D has eye-candy aplenty and quite usable and functional manila apps built-in like the calendar, weather and contacts browser (especially in the newest, prettier versions). I'm aware that we can run certain HTC apps within Titanium (Calculator/Album/Camera/etc), but the experience then feels disjointed and not cohesive at all.
So my question (and point for discussion) is this: Can we ever envisage a time when HTC's (or whomever's) bolt-on UIs are not required? Will MS ever produce a UI that is pretty and easy to navigate? Or will we always have to rely on 3rd party apps just to make our phones usable without the need for a stylus?

I quite like the new titanium, don't miss manila at all. Using Miri's 7.2 standard.
I think it will be WM7 that should/will get rid of the stylus once and for all.

The new start menu is more aesthetically appealing, but i find it less functional than the new start menu in manila, my issues w/ the new start menu in manila, is that noone has made a background for all cabs for this version yet, and htc should really have included this by default, seems kind of dumb to me to have only wallpaper support for the home tab.
I've found that even though its monochromatic, i prefer tf3d v2 and its new notifications, context menu's and additional tabs on tf3d more than i prefer what MS has done w/ wm 6.5.
What i like about wm 6.5 is that it gives the visual impression that you have more screen real estate due to the transparent top & bottom bars, but sadly that's only on the start bar & today screens. I also like the new lock screen, and the icons throughout the system, smoother, better antialiasing.
I also miss the ability to select multiple files in file explorer, but i find that functionality has been gone for a while, once the kinetic scrolling was introduced, the ability to block select multiple files was lost. I know that other 3rd party file managers have the functionality built in, but you lose the visual cohesivehness with the operating system.
even though they take up the whole screen and are again monochromatic, i don't know why but i prefer the htc context menus to the wm 6.5 one's, i'm not sure if its the font type or size which could be part of it, but i think the wm 6.5 context menus looks less visually cohesive, even though it shares the theme of the OS.
I honestly am glad that HTC put out the tf3d v2, i wasn't particularly impressed by v1, and took it off the device as soon as i got it, resigned to have to deal w/ wm's ugliness, and millions of menu's, but i think v2 is a noble effort, they've certainly made me enjoy my Touch HD more. a
whole lot more.
Also prefer the HTC calculator, and HTC dialer to the stock MS one's. I'm just over the moon w/ tf3d v2, and i'm also running Miri's rom.

DRTigerlilly said:
The new start menu is more aesthetically appealing, but i find it less functional than the new start menu in manila, my issues w/ the new start menu in manila, is that noone has made a background for all cabs for this version yet, and htc should really have included this by default, seems kind of dumb to me to have only wallpaper support for the home tab. ...
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There is background for all tabs available. mun_rus works great for me and there is another cab available to have both the old start menu and programs tab.

Quite so, but the BG for all tabs doesn't extend to the new Start Menu.

Ive been using Onkolos light WM 6.5 since friday and love it. I havnt used Manila as I like the new Titanium but I have installed Yota contacts and dialer as I dont like the windows contacts and the dialer is faster.
Downside is they dont work in landscape mode but Im using changescreen at the moment to experiment getting windows to rotate but not dialer & contacts. I would prefer to use flip it but didnt know what to enter for windows rotation.

I prefer touch flo and the way htc have tried to hide the boring style of the windows interface. I love all the new htc menus, skins, finger friendly apps etc.
I tried 6.5 but after a while reverted back to manilla because in 6.5 it was still the old interface below. Only the home page and menus had changed. I also tried 6.5 with some htc updated replacement skins and apps but did not like the mix of two styles and preferred to have a consistant theme throughout.
Am using the new topaz manilla 2 - davideuck v5 and am very happy with it and sticking with it. Manilla all the way...

Major_Sarcasm said:
Quite so, but the BG for all tabs doesn't extend to the new Start Menu.
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what you do is that you set the background wallpaper for the "today" screen as the same background wallpaper for your tabs, and it will be the same. An extra step, I know, but this also extends to your WM6.5 lock screen as well.

skulk3r said:
what you do is that you set the background wallpaper for the "today" screen as the same background wallpaper for your tabs, and it will be the same. An extra step, I know, but this also extends to your WM6.5 lock screen as well.
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Major_Sarcasm & myself are referring to the new htc start menu in wm 6.1 not wm 6.5

Having tried various flavors of it, I don't give a bean about Titanium (MS in general); I find it cumbersome. TouchFlo to me is simple and efficent enough. Now, if there is a Zune phone (with at least 120 gb), that will be the day.

aabye said:
Having tried various flavors of it, I don't give a bean about Titanium (MS in general); I find it cumbersome. TouchFlo to me is simple and efficent enough. Now, if there is a Zune phone (with at least 120 gb), that will be the day.
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manila unfortunately comes with a price.....major hi-jack of memory.

no a problem for me,remember we had pda's before manilla ...

Hi, I have bought pocketshield and found it doesn't work in all applications as manila is set as part of my start process. To make all apps work with pocketshield, am I safe removing manila - sorry to be dim but what is it giving me that touchflo doesn't..?

YES, PointUI

I have to say I'm in the Manila camp. Especially the latest versions of Manila from custom ROMs.
It's good looking, and functional.
And with each new version it goes deeper and deeper into hiding the ugly WinMo interface, which is a big plus for me. Also, I have to say that Manila has been surprisingly solid when it comes to speed and stability, especially for someone like me who's constantly digging around the _manila files and playing with them
The biggest minus for me personally is that HTC didn't take in account that people may want to change the colors and graphics, so visual customization is major PITA.

band27 said:
manila unfortunately comes with a price.....major hi-jack of memory.
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I have no more than 20-30% free memory, and my device is very fast and stable. Memory is there to be used, why else did you pay for it?

vangrieg said:
I have no more than 20-30% free memory, and my device is very fast and stable. Memory is there to be used, why else did you pay for it?
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I couldn't agree more. I don't see a point in saving up free memory. As long as I can run 2-3 large applications simultaneously and still be able to answer a call or read an SMS, I'm perfectly happy with my device.

Zepiii said:
YES, PointUI
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Exactly. It's amazing what it can do
I'm the biggest fan of it
HastaSSSS

im not a fan of the titanium in 6.5 , i like manila better, but i like pointUI even better as the same for ms3 wich i use the most

I rather quite like touchflow as it give you all of the main features of a phone such as the touch HD without the need to run different apps (ie can view newest text messages without running the ms messaging app).
as for if MS will ever make a really nice UI, i think by winmo 7, MS will have to hav made a new UI (because of pressure from iphone OS) and then, as a major release, all the regular apps (windows media player, album etc) will also get a facelift, with the former already having been confirmed for a new release.
thats what i think anyway...

PointUI ???

I was looking at PointUI - seems interesting but i was wondering if it has multiple home screens (like Android or MS3) or is it dependant on each theme as i like the Amana theme but i would prefer having multiple screens to use so that i dont have to have alot on the page

PointUI uses multiple screens as well. Just check out their website. If you hit Community you'll get plenty of information about skins and skinning

Pointui
I have used it .. prefered the old one as this one has small buttons not as thumb friendly.. and not as easy to use as TF3D

Yeah, the UI is good, but TF3D 2 is better, I mean the integration of the TouchFLo over Windows Mobile is greater than PointUI.
And the integration of TF3D 2 will be higher with the new and shiny TF3D 2.5

I'm a proud owner of the pointui pro. With the scipting of pointui (C-like scripts) you can do amazing things with it.
You can watch two recent video's on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZXfhsOHerw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDyb-Tq-y3E

That second link is just awesome. Best Sense UI I've seen so far!

Any other UI's except TF3D??

Please name any other UI's (or full today screen plugins like TF3D)!!
which work on Touch HD!!

Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
Please name any other UI's (or full today screen plugins like TF3D)!!
which work on Touch HD!!
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There are plenty:
1. IPhone Today (Ver. 1.2.5) - can be found in "Developement and Hacking" in the general section. There is a cab for wvga resolution. Works great, highly customizable and very fast (at least as fast as the IPhone swipe speed). Works great with icons by Reflect. I highly recommend. BTW - follow the manual to install (not only cab installation)..
2. SPB Mobile Shell 3.0.1 - Great UI. I also use an additional package called "Sense le Revolution v.2" which simulates the Sense UI of the HTC Hero (search the threads to find link to this). There is also Android UI's and IPhone.. Those can be found on www.mobilecustom.fr/forum though you need to know french (or use Google translate.. )
3. Throttle Launcher - free UI, customizable. I left TL since it did not work very well after an upgrade to a higher version.
4. WAD2 (WisBar Advance Desktop 2) - very customizable and there are many ready UI designed by people (search the threads). I left WAD2 since it is very heavy and does not respond well..
4. Point UI - I tried it for five minutes and left it.. Did not like it at all..
I have three UI's running on my Touch HD - IPhone Today on my today screen, SPB MS3 with Sense v.2 (there is a button to show Today screen - this is how to change to IPhone UI) and I changed Softkey number 1 (with SKTools) to get TF3D to start (by starting Manila.exe)..
Eat this IPhone.. This phone just keeps going, no matter what you throw at it..
Good luck..