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Just thought I should let everyone know, and don't worry there's enough for everybody.
Just need the apk now
I had the Google Earth installed when I first got the phone. But to be honest (to my opinion) the Google Maps do the same thing. The 3D viewing etc of course is cool, but for practical point of view Maps covers the same (sat view). And the Google Earth does eat you precious memory - well until Froyo I hope!!
If there is one thing I regret from my old HD2 running WM6.5.3 it's Google Maps.
I just cannot stand Bing Maps. This soft is just terrible and totally useless for customers outside the U.S.
The maps are not accurate, and doesn't even include basic Local Search.
Try to search the word "Hotel" in Paris and Bing Maps will find you some cities named Hotel !!!!!!
Fair if Microsoft wants to impose Bing instead of Google in its WP7 devices, but only if the soft is ready to use and decent. Outside the US it is NOT.
So, did anybody find a good alternative soft that could replace this crappy Bing Maps?
Any chance we will have Google Maps on WP7 in the future?
Thanks.
Not any at this time. It depends if Google desides to make an app or not.
Ok, thanks for the answer
I hope Google will do that, because I definitely think Bing maps is a real mess (at least in Europe, I don't know if it's the same in the US).
Am pretty sure google will do a version for it, its a market share they need and co-pilot will be working on a nav system for it. If they can include iOS they will include us.
Only thing for google at the moment is the net version :s
This guy here seems to be working on a few things which might come good by merging bing with google
http://cid-a47796b098a35137.office.live.com/browse.aspx/.Documents
Google will develop an app, they have one for just about every other mobile app platform.
I have no problems with Bing Maps, but I live in the US....so yeah. I'd love to see GMaps on WP7 (and there should be at some point).
MS needs to get Bing Maps up to par in markets outside the US.
lordcanti86 said:
I have no problems with Bing Maps, but I live in the US....so yeah. I'd love to see GMaps on WP7 (and there should be at some point).
MS needs to get Bing Maps up to par in markets outside the US.
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Works awesome in Canada...
Cant you just make a shortcut tile from a google maps page?
I love bing maps, im in the UK.
I'm in Poland and Bing Maps (on WM) is terrible.
Even the search engine is crap.
arturobandini said:
Ok, thanks for the answer
I hope Google will do that, because I definitely think Bing maps is a real mess (at least in Europe, I don't know if it's the same in the US).
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Bing is great in the US. In the future o put "in Europe" in the thread title so I dont waste minutes of my life reading it.
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I've had no issues with it in the UK.
All loads quickly and works fluidly.
The only thing I miss is latitude, that was genuinely useful for meeting up with friends in an unknown place.
Apparently, Bing Maps indeed works fine in the US and UK.
But in France it's a real mess. The search engine is the worst I've ever seen.
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Irish version of Bing is pants. They have NO poi data, ie restaurants, amenities, etc. However, they do have lots of satellite imagery, and birds eye views for many of the larger cities.
And when you hit the search button in Bing Maps in WP7, you don't get any local results for the map. ie it's not possible to find an address on the map.
If someone would release an app with most of the bing imagery and UI, but would Google data laid over, that would be ideal (Google does have local data for Ireland).
Freypal said:
I've had no issues with it in the UK.
All loads quickly and works fluidly.
The only thing I miss is latitude, that was genuinely useful for meeting up with friends in an unknown place.
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I disagree I love Bing, and would use Bing maps (in the UK) if it was up to scratch. It's business/POI data is sparse at best.
ITO functionality it has a log way to go before it even comes close to the functionality google maps provides on WM6.5
Bing Maps is the same useless papermap in Germany as in the rest of mainland Europe, no POIs whatsoever.
Plus, it doesn't show me which way I'm facing. I thouhgt there's a compass built into every Windows Phone 7 Device !?
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20101021/workaround-local-listings-voice-search-wp7-australia/
Can you try this and see if it changes anything?
I tried exactly the same search with the word "McDonald's" in the center of Paris, and Bing Maps suddenly displayed a world wide map with absolutely no result. No POI, no address, nothing.
Maybe McDonald's restaurants are not famous enough for Bing?
It's ridiculous.
Also the quality of the graphics is so poor. The streets are all so blurry. The location is wrong. It takes minutes and minutes to download the full map.
Yep have to admit there are a lot of things I'm not so happy about with certain win phone 7 phones, but bing maps is the only reason I am holding off.
I have been trying to use Bing maps on my pc to try and get used to it, but it is useless.
I am in Australia and confirm that yes it does have ALOT of POI's (not as many as google but enough), BUT it is near impossible to use. It is not intuitive, if I am zoomed into my location, then search "Indian Restaurants", it will zoom out and go to india. I have to choose businesses, and enter a location such as "Indian Restaurant Brisbane Australia".
On top of that it seems very unreliable with results, The same search but move the map slightly in one direction removes a bunch of points on the map and generates new ones elsewhere. I was looking directly at a point, zoomed into it and it vanishes.....right...
NoWorthWhile said:
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20101021/workaround-local-listings-voice-search-wp7-australia/
Can you try this and see if it changes anything?
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Unbelievable, Bing Maps DOES have POIs here in Germany!
Thanks a lot!
Any word on whether Google's working on a WP7 Google Maps app?
There's this: http://dotnetbyexample.blogspot.com/2010/10/google-maps-for-windows-phone-7.html, but of course, Google's TOS won't allow that to become useful.
There's also a suggestion in Google Mobile's product ideas page: http://productideas.appspot.com/#9/e=cf&t=windows+phone+7+maps
Bing is fine in parts of the U.S., but I'm sometimes in Mumbai and other cities around the world, where Bing Maps is atrociously poor.
I am hoping that either Microsoft improve their map service or Google brings their maps service to WP7.
so it's impossible to go to m.google.com/maps on a wp7 device and download google maps?
Doesn't this all look very similar to the anti-trust suites that occurred over Internet Explorer being bundled with Windows? I can't really see how having the MS service embedded into the OS doesn't break the same rules that IE was apparently breaking as a stand-alone but pre-installed program?
Hopefully we'll end up with a choice on first-run between Bing, Google and anyone else that wants to play so we can decide who we have integrated into the OS.
paulrockliffe said:
Doesn't this all look very similar to the anti-trust suites that occurred over Internet Explorer being bundled with Windows? I can't really see how having the MS service embedded into the OS doesn't break the same rules that IE was apparently breaking as a stand-alone but pre-installed program?
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I think it doesn't because Microsoft has nowhere near the marketshare on smartphones that Windows has on desktops. And I think it's possible for Google to write and submit a Google Maps application for WP7 and in my opinion Microsoft will allow the application in the marketplace (because otherwise there will be a long discussion online that may affect the image of WP7 negatively).
paulrockliffe said:
Hopefully we'll end up with a choice on first-run between Bing, Google and anyone else that wants to play so we can decide who we have integrated into the OS.
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This is the most likely scenario.
I am expecting Google Maps on WP7 a lot, because I can't deal with Bing Maps.
In France and some european countries Bing Maps is just crap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823953
Google just announced it. BTW, why would you want Google maps? I can't stand it compared to Bing on Phone 7.
There are 2 things I want from Google:
1. IE search to be changed from Yahoo! to Google (on the HTC HD7 in the UK), with search as you type and image search.
2. And of course, a fully featured YouTube app.
Bing is a decent mapping platform. The only feature it lacks is streetview.
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Google just announced it.
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If true, it's great
Bing Maps is slow, terribly slow outside the US
Bing Maps has no Street View
Bing search is inaccurate and uncomplete outside the US. It misses most of the things I'm looking for, and Google finds it immediately.
Google includes images search.
Why doesn't Bing have image search on WP7?
well at least now you can have Google Search on your Windows phone 7. http://www.phonedog.com/2010/11/08/google-search-app-for-windows-phone-7-now-available/
kenikh said:
Google just announced it. BTW, why would you want Google maps? I can't stand it compared to Bing on Phone 7.
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As for Europe, Poland, Bing is worse than Gooogle, especially in searching streets etc.
Where are you ppl coming up with Bing Maps for WP7? I have looked and looked all over the web and cannot find where Bing Maps (turn by turn nav) is. It isn't built into the Bing search app on my new HD7 nor is it available at the Market.
Press the Search button at the bottom right of your phone??? Works fine for me...BTW, wanna sell that HD7 you are sending back? Sux AT&T has crap hardware.
scroll to the right (the app list)... do you not have a "Maps" application there? It was built into my phone, it should be there for yours.
Bing would be alright, if they had public transportation built into their maps. That's why i love google maps lets me know when the next bus comes.
f1restarter said:
well at least now you can have Google Search on your Windows phone 7. http://www.phonedog.com/2010/11/08/google-search-app-for-windows-phone-7-now-available/
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Great that Google search comes to WP7 . At least we will have the option to search for some images (Bing doesn't even include this basic feature).
Hope Google Maps will come soon.
kenikh said:
Google just announced it. BTW, why would you want Google maps? I can't stand it compared to Bing on Phone 7.
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No Google maps yet (just a general Google search app).
As for why-- because Google Maps has vastly superior map and point of interest data in many, if not most, parts of the world than Bing Maps.
Apparently, somebody has already compiled Google Maps for Windows Phone 7. You'll still need a developer account to load it though.
day2die said:
Apparently, somebody has already compiled Google Maps for Windows Phone 7. You'll still need a developer account to load it though.
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On my phone at the moment (and of course WP7 can't do anything with files), but I'd guess that's probably the same deal as this: http://dotnetbyexample.blogspot.com/2010/10/google-maps-for-windows-phone-7.html
If so, that's just pulling map tiles from Google-- not enough to actually do anything useful, and Google's TOS doesn't allow it anyway.
Hi,
What apps are you guys missing the most on WP7. Lets make a list.
For starters heres a few
1) Adobe Flash
2) Opera/Firefox
3) Windows Messenger official client
4) Skype
5) Google Maps (Bing sucks)
Any more?
nitroxn said:
Hi,
What apps are you guys missing the most on WP7. Lets make a list.
For starters heres a few
1) Adobe Flash
2) Opera/Firefox
3) Windows Messenger official client
4) Skype
5) Google Maps (Bing sucks)
Any more?
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Out of all of those the only one I'd use is Adobe Flash. Bing maps is awesome they just need turn by turn navigation, opera and firefox arent going to be worth a damn once the new version of IE is out (on mobile anyway) Messengers are too impersonal, I call and text. I dont even think I've been on messenger in 4 months or so. Skype... well... I'd prefer windows come up with their own video chat app.
I think Google Maps is critically necessary. Unless you live in the US, Bing Maps is very disappointing. Google Maps is loaded with local businesses around the world, has public transit layers in may big cities, and from my experience has better map coverage (as in purely street names and numbers).
Plus, a vector-based map application is probably a much better idea on a phone, since you can rotate the map according to your orientation without losing quality when you're doing turn-by-turn.
I think Navteq will make a stunning navigation app for WP7, but right now I really need some Google Maps love.
Greg2k said:
I think Google Maps is critically necessary. Unless you live in the US, Bing Maps is very disappointing. Google Maps is loaded with local businesses around the world, has public transit layers in may big cities, and from my experience has better map coverage (as in purely street names and numbers).
Plus, a vector-based map application is probably a much better idea on a phone, since you can rotate the map according to your orientation without losing quality when you're doing turn-by-turn.
I think Navteq will make a stunning navigation app for WP7, but right now I really need some Google Maps love.
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Doubt they'd give in to the competitor like that...Not to mention I'd rather not have google spying on everywhere I go.
I like bing maps, but it needs turn by turn navigation. I do believe this is coming up in some update eventually. I did like the google maps for android though. Some needed apps are:
TELNET
SSH
FTP
RDP
VPN
However, im pretty sure the OS is the reason why we dont have these. I think they are opening those options in the coming update?
Havent we done this before?
Mainly:
- Google Maps
- A good GPS navigation software (Navigon or other)
But also:
- A nice translation software (Robert Collins or other)
- Last.fm app allowing to scrobble my music (the Last.fm app isn't even available in france)
- A simple flashlight using the led flash (I don't have a HTC)
Google Maps.
My experience on WM6.1 with Google was far better than I have had with Bing (so far). Pushpins (Can't find them on Bing though they're supposed to be there) that stay on the map (I work all over the place and need to navigate from and to different locations every day) especially.
Most of all though, I want the phone to automatically stay ON when navigating with what ever Map App I use. I know that there is a possible issue with Screen Burn but this is an imperative when driving.
Why do you need Opera/Firefox？
The stock browser works better than Opera Mobile/Firefox on Android
Unfortunately I believe we will not have Google Maps quite soon.
And I think I understand why Google refuses to release Google Maps for WP7.
Recently a developer told me that its app (similar too Google Maps for WP7) takes a very long time to display the map graphics because WP7 basically forces him to use Microsoft's web components to load the map images (i.e. the maps app provides URLs and then wait for the OS to get the images).
I think Google will never accept that the Google Maps experience on WP7 can be ruined this way, with map images taking too much time to load, just because it is forced to use Microsoft's web components instead of more efficient methods.
It's funny, since having Bing as default on my phone I've switched to Bing on my desktop and I much prefer it now. IE9 desktop is awesome too so I wouldn't be hasty to wish a 3rd party browser with a new IE mobile in the pipeline.
Bing maps could do with an update for outside of the US but I get on alright with it in the UK. Besides with the amount of legal spats / falling outs Google appear to be having of late I wouldn't expect them to be doing anything to help an MS platform regardless of their business strategy being built on advertising.
Messenger client with proper notifications would be great.
Flash may have it's uses but i'll see what develops with HTML5.
The one I really miss from WM6 is a decent turn by turn nav. Igo8 was superb.. better than any stand alone tomtom / garmin i've used.
provided the nokia deal stays firm, anything Ovi Maps covered will get integrated into Bing Maps making it a lot more viable option.
For those complaining about Google Maps, blame Google not Microsoft. Microsoft and 3rd party developers are not allowed to make a Google Maps API due to Google's restrictions. Google themselves have to do it. Till they do, we won't be seeing any Google love. So stop complaining that MS doesn't do it or 3rd parties don't do it, blame Google.
Also... as mentioned, this is like deja vu, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844117 contains a lot of this already...
Any instant messenger that can work in the background. ANY! #1 on my list
A better map that can do navigation
anything else
flash
nitroxn said:
Hi,
What apps are you guys missing the most on WP7. Lets make a list.
For starters heres a few
1) Adobe Flash
2) Opera/Firefox
3) Windows Messenger official client
4) Skype
5) Google Maps (Bing sucks)
Any more?
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Mmm. Only thing i would need is the ability for the browser to bring you to the youtube app and show you the video on the app (like it does on Android instead of playing it on the page eating up the battery and making it slow like hell)
Otherwise than that
MORE GAMES
That is all
arturobandini said:
Unfortunately I believe we will not have Google Maps quite soon.
And I think I understand why Google refuses to release Google Maps for WP7.
Recently a developer told me that its app (similar too Google Maps for WP7) takes a very long time to display the map graphics because WP7 basically forces him to use Microsoft's web components to load the map images (i.e. the maps app provides URLs and then wait for the OS to get the images).
I think Google will never accept that the Google Maps experience on WP7 can be ruined this way, with map images taking too much time to load, just because it is forced to use Microsoft's web components instead of more efficient methods.
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are you blaming google for microsoft's ruining of google maps ? (not sure i follow here)
Palringo
Skype (front facing camera phones as well)
Pandora
File Explorer
Opera
nitroxn said:
Hi,
What apps are you guys missing the most on WP7. Lets make a list.
For starters heres a few
1) Adobe Flash
2) Opera/Firefox
3) Windows Messenger official client
4) Skype
5) Google Maps (Bing sucks)
Any more?
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1. recent survey says that over 60% of internet is html5 compliant. I'll take flash as long as its done well (no flash adds, only click to start flash content).
2. I think IE9 will blow those out of the water (it already does on the desktop).
3. Sure, why not, don't use it, but I understand there are a lot that do.
4. No FFC so no need yet. I would rather have a skype app than a MS propietary one like apple has.
5. I think MS partnering with ovi-maps is the reason we don't have a bing tbt yet. I think once that gets integrated, it will be the top data based map app out there.
Greg2k said:
I think Google Maps is critically necessary. Unless you live in the US, Bing Maps is very disappointing. Google Maps is loaded with local businesses around the world, has public transit layers in may big cities, and from my experience has better map coverage (as in purely street names and numbers).
Plus, a vector-based map application is probably a much better idea on a phone, since you can rotate the map according to your orientation without losing quality when you're doing turn-by-turn.
I think Navteq will make a stunning navigation app for WP7, but right now I really need some Google Maps love.
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I think ovi-maps from nokia will solve a lot of that. I don't know how long though.
efjay said:
Havent we done this before?
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probably 8 or 9 times.
nickallison said:
Google Maps.
My experience on WM6.1 with Google was far better than I have had with Bing (so far). Pushpins (Can't find them on Bing though they're supposed to be there) that stay on the map (I work all over the place and need to navigate from and to different locations every day) especially.
Most of all though, I want the phone to automatically stay ON when navigating with what ever Map App I use. I know that there is a possible issue with Screen Burn but this is an imperative when driving.
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That can be added to any of the apps. The devs just need to add it.
ohgood said:
are you blaming google for microsoft's ruining of google maps ? (not sure i follow here)
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No, I'm blaming Microsoft.
Navigation in Bing...
Bank of America
American airlines
U-verse for more than just at&t
Pandora
Fring or palringo
Skype
Engadget...
And then I'd be happy ....
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Stop moaning. You should have done research before.
The fact is that alot of apps that you are looking for needs time to make.
One little document to change something has to be signed of by way too many people and this slow the process down.
Be patient
So it is now in the Marketplace (!!!)
Called gMaps. Works.
it is not google maps... Google Maps have for example Latitude.
it's not a bad app, but i think that Bingle is better more features and scrolls smoother
there is a map app called Bingle Maps, it uses google maps... slow though...
Bingle > gMaps
http://mobilitydigest.com/bingle-mapsbing-and-google-maps-in-harmony-on-windows-phones/
Of course it's not original Google Maps.
However it's engine is based on Google so in the places where Bing is basically a joke
gMaps works.
There are several apps based on Google Maps available on the marketplace (TA Maps, Bingle Maps, gMaps, Advanced Maps Viewer, Cartes Pro or Maps Pro...)
But unfortunately there are all very slow. No StreetView, no Latitude. Most of the time the search function does not work at all.
My understanding is that, whatever the maps used, Microsoft force the developers to use part of the Bing system, the "Microsoft Bing maps control", which is so mediocre.
This is why maps images take such a long time to display.
This is why there is no cache memory that saves the last map image, etc...
Strangely I noticed that A-to-B is the only soft that display very quickly the map. Why?
Also Outdoor Navigation is a great app (using OpenStreetMaps), but still a bit slow. But search function works fine.
I believe we will never have Google Maps on WP7.
This is so unfair.
I hate Bing.
Why would you buy a phone with an OS from a company with a full services stack (PIM, Maps, Search, Productivity/Office, Media, etc.) and expect their main competitor to release basically a clone of their most prized app from their platform on it?
I do feel sorry for people who are stuck with Bing maps in areas where it's coverage isn't good, but... really... Why? I'm generally interested...
Microsoft and Google are fierce competitors. Don't expect any decent apps from Google outside of Google Search and Carriers Locking the browser search to Google on WP7 devices...
They won't do it. It's not even a good business decision from their standpoint, especially in their market position.
I'm sure some iOS/Android users would love Office Mobile, ZunePass, and XBL on their phones - but does it make sense? Well, for iOS they may eventually get it. Microsoft seems to love porting their stuff over to Apple's OS these days
N8ter,
Remember, Google Maps was available on WinMo... And it was pretty good.
At least there should be an official Google Maps for WP7.
It does not need to include all the features available on Android, of course, but at least the main characteristics.
To me Bing and Bing Map ruin the overall WP7 experience and makes me a disappointed customer.
I will not change my device now, but if only I knew few months ago that I would be stuck with Bing Map only then I would have probably chosen an Android device rather than WP7 My fault.
I actually made some use of Bing Maps the other day to get to a concert I was performing at and I thought it handled it really well.
It did a good job of tracking my location along the route, and listed landmarks at points to let you know you were on the right track. Was a real cool perk.
I have a whole different beef with the Maps app though, and that's that it doesn't do public transit directions. Which sucks, as the Bing Maps web app does.
arturobandini said:
N8ter,
Remember, Google Maps was available on WinMo... And it was pretty good.
At least there should be an official Google Maps for WP7.
It does not need to include all the features available on Android, of course, but at least the main characteristics.
To me Bing and Bing Map ruin the overall WP7 experience and makes me a disappointed customer.
I will not change my device now, but if only I knew few months ago that I would be stuck with Bing Map only then I would have probably chosen an Android device rather than WP7 My fault.
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...It does not need to include all the features available on Android, of course, but at least the main characteristics.....
why the heck not ? less features is now a positive ? wtheck ?
The "funniest" thing is that you have Bing on every damned OS
and Google Maps also excluding.... WP7.
It doesn't make sense.
Anyway for those who love WP7 and doesn't want to switch those gMaps are good enough
to find a place and get position tracking. BTW this app is quite fast.
I don't think it has anything to do with Google being in competition with MS, it's because of WP7 lack of market share. That's why you see Bing on competing devices & Google Maps on iOS. The Bing team for example doesn't care about making WP7 look good, their goal is to get as many people using Bing as possible.
I bet there are divisions and people within MS that would like nothing more then to have WP7 fail, like the Windows group, so they will be able to put mobile under their control.
arturobandini said:
N8ter,
Remember, Google Maps was available on WinMo... And it was pretty good.
At least there should be an official Google Maps for WP7.
It does not need to include all the features available on Android, of course, but at least the main characteristics.
To me Bing and Bing Map ruin the overall WP7 experience and makes me a disappointed customer.
I will not change my device now, but if only I knew few months ago that I would be stuck with Bing Map only then I would have probably chosen an Android device rather than WP7 My fault.
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Yep and without tbt navy and feature disparity compared to the android version. Unless ur a latitude user binge maps is superior to Google on winmo.
Still have my HD2. just checked them.
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phoneguy 4567 said:
I don't think it has anything to do with Google being in competition with MS, it's because of WP7 lack of market share. That's why you see Bing on competing devices & Google Maps on iOS. The Bing team for example doesn't care about making WP7 look good, their goal is to get as many people using Bing as possible.
I bet there are divisions and people within MS that would like nothing more then to have WP7 fail, like the Windows group, so they will be able to put mobile under their control.
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Yes bit the its version is missing the same features the android version is. Lots of people get android because of the free turn by then and add on apps like tracks which are missing on non android devices.
Google also doesn't update the non android versions as well.
Microsoft should have release wp7 binge maps on feature equality with the wm version and just updated it when they switched to .ovi. There was nothing preventing them from doing that.
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My understanding is the WP7 team came up with their own version of Bing, which is separate from what the Bing team is working on. If MS doesn't care that WP7 has a worse implementation then competitors get why would Google care about WP7?
The problem is that Microsoft has better implementations for competitors products like wlm for ios, but Google would never allow a division of their company to support ios/android over or better than android. Microsoft does allow this apparently.
It doesn't help consumer confidence, and its just plain dumb.
That's why a Google maps app would only be about as good on wp7 as bing is right now, only using Google data (which would help some users). Google never release apps on other platforms on feature parity with their android apps.
Those complaining about binge search can use the Google app that may get pulled from marketplace soon since I think its just a webpage lol
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P.s. Google would care about Wp7 because mining data from 1000001 users is better than mining data from 1000000. Google entire business model is built around monetizing user data. That's why they wasted no time in releasing their happy little Google search app and they have deals with carriers like t-mobile to lock the browser search to Google...
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same you "it is not google maps... Google Maps have for example Latitude."
gmaps is sloooowwww