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Multi-Touch on Vogue?

This would have been amazing while I used WinMo on my Vogue. I would flash back from Android to try this if it ever came to the Vogue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655830

Probably not
BTW what would be even nicer is if we could get this to work on Android

Yes, the linked article specifically references resistive touch screens, so it sounds like it could be possible to the right developers.

kiwilime said:
Probably not
BTW what would be even nicer is if we could get this to work on Android
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Its definitely possible since this was specifically developed for resistive screens not capacitive. There is even an SDK. I'd love to see this on Android with the Vogue.

hexto said:
Its definitely possible since this was specifically developed for resistive screens not capacitive. There is even an SDK. I'd love to see this on Android with the Vogue.
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Tested it out just now and it does seem to work... Kinda...
But it is something that we can look forward to in the future for these old phones.

Lmiller1708 said:
Tested it out just now and it does seem to work... Kinda...
But it is something that we can look forward to in the future for these old phones.
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Cool. I use Android so I cannot try it yet but once its better I'll flash back to WinMo. This phone just keeps getting better

We could try to enable "pinch to zoom" on Opera like with the HD2.

egzthunder1 said:
We could try to enable "pinch to zoom" on Opera like with the HD2.
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That'd be awesome. Never was a fan of IE

Hmm... it would be nice if someone could make a rom that included multitouch

kiwilime said:
Hmm... it would be nice if someone could make a rom that included multitouch
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Nothing really to do with it yet... We Need some apps to be made.

kiwilime said:
Hmm... it would be nice if someone could make a rom that included multitouch
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Cooking this in is not the issue... Long story short... nothing works with it yet

Actually, the only reason I want to use this is because in PocketGBA (or PocketSNES or any other emulator) I can't press more than one button at a time. So when I try to use the directional pad, I have to pick up my finger to press buttons.
Would this multi-touch mod fix this?

kiwilime said:
Actually, the only reason I want to use this is because in PocketGBA (or PocketSNES or any other emulator) I can't press more than one button at a time. So when I try to use the directional pad, I have to pick up my finger to press buttons.
Would this multi-touch mod fix this?
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Not if it isn't supported by the application.

[Q] The "Dual-touch" after froyo update

Hi guys, ever since I updated my Desire with Froyo (OTA) I've experienced a "bug" in the "dual-touch" that the Desire has.
The problem is when you are dual-touching and hold the first finger absolute still and remove the second one, the touch of the second one stays on until you move the first finger.
Which isn't a big problem until you play a game where you have to hold one button and steer at the same time.
Link to a crappy video to show my problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eLYfHGeFnY
Now to my question, is it only me who is experiencing this kind of problem? Could this be fixed with a bakground app that checks the touch screen (when the second touch leaves the screen)?
/Oggeh

Same problem, i think is "normal" for the desire...isnt a multitouch screen..is an emulation and of course dont work properly..
Sent from my HTC Desire

But I don't recall the Desire having that problem before Froyo :/

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But I don't recall the Desire having that problem before Froyo :/
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the desire dosent have multi-touch, it has dual-touch, basically the way this works is, the desire's screen can only physically detect one finger touch, when you touch the screen with a second finger, although the desire can detect that a 2nd finger has touched the screen, it dosent know where that 2nd finger touch is, it then uses a mathematical algorithm using 3 points of reference, to work out where the 2nd finger is ..........

AndroHero said:
the desire dosent have multi-touch, it has dual-touch, basically the way this works is, the desire's screen can only physically detect one finger touch, when you touch the screen with a second finger, although the desire can detect that a 2nd finger has touched the screen, it dosent know where that 2nd finger touch is, it then uses a mathematical algorithm using 3 points of reference, to work out where the 2nd finger is ..........
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ok this is problematic in FPS games and games like meteor blitz
something i noticed though, on my previous amoled desire i had the official screen protector installed so i never noticed the problems in games
now on my new handset still unprotected, multi-touch games struggles a lot more
can anyone else confirm if their experience is better with the screen protector?

AndroHero said:
the desire dosent have multi-touch, it has dual-touch, basically the way this works is, the desire's screen can only physically detect one finger touch, when you touch the screen with a second finger, although the desire can detect that a 2nd finger has touched the screen, it dosent know where that 2nd finger touch is, it then uses a mathematical algorithm using 3 points of reference, to work out where the 2nd finger is ..........
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My bad, I thought people like you would understand when i wrote "multi-touch" in the title. I will certainly swap it out ..........
On Topic: Do you guys think it's any idea to start a conversation with HTC about this or is it just a waste of time??

Oggeh said:
My bad, I thought people like you would understand when i wrote "multi-touch" in the title. I will certainly swap it out ..........
On Topic: Do you guys think it's any idea to start a conversation with HTC about this or is it just a waste of time??
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i understand what you ment, i was correcting you because i thought you didnt know, btw its not a bug, the symptoms you are describing are what happens with this kind of touch panel........

AndroHero said:
i understand what you ment, i was correcting you because i thought you didnt know, btw its not a bug, the symptoms you are describing are what happens with this kind of touch panel........
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Even though I didn't notice this kind of bug before Froyo update? I mean, did someone experience this in 2.1?? Before Froyo it was possible to play games, emulators etc.
And yes I know that the Desire don't have the best touch sensor.

Oggeh said:
Even though I didn't notice this kind of bug before Froyo update? I mean, did someone experience this in 2.1?? Before Froyo it was possible to play games, emulators etc.
And yes I know that the Desire don't have the best touch sensor.
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yes it happend with eclair, its because, imagine when u touch the screen with one finger, the screen detects it yeah? when u touch it with the second one the device see's it as one big finger touch, and then uses its reference point to work out where the 2 fingers are, now when u take one finger off again, because the first finger is still touching the screen it dosent realise because it cant phyically distinguish two fingers if you get what i mean lol

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yes it happend with eclair, its because, imagine when u touch the screen with one finger, the screen detects it yeah? when u touch it with the second one the device see's it as one big finger touch, and then uses its reference point to work out where the 2 fingers are, now when u take one finger off again, because the first finger is still touching the screen it dosent realise because it cant phyically distinguish two fingers if you get what i mean lol
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Ok, but I'm still not convinced, is there any video of the problem with Eclair or even on a Nexus One with Eclair/Froyo?

Oggeh said:
Ok, but I'm still not convinced, is there any video of the problem with Eclair or even on a Nexus One with Eclair/Froyo?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2yQHuHHFU

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY2yQHuHHFU
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Isn't that just the common axis bug?

[TOOL] SynapticsToTouch - Use Synaptics Touchpad as a touch input device

Hello all,
Today I started working on an app to test Windows 8 touch capabilities with my Synaptics touchpad. The app kind of works at the moment, but only with one touch point. I haven't figured out how to get the number of the touch point in the touchpad packet data.
How To:
Download the app (link below) and run the SynapticsToTouch.exe. It should work now, try using your touchpad. You may want to calibrate your touchpad with the Calibrate button. Click it and follow the instructions.
Download v0.3 alpha: https://github.com/downloads/Digiex/SynapticsToTouch/SynapticsToTouch_v0.3_c3902b3a54.zip
Source code: https://github.com/Digiex/SynapticsToTouch/
Issue Tracker: https://github.com/Digiex/SynapticsToTouch/issues/
Please fork and fix any bugs you might find
Bug reports and feature requests should go to the issue tracker You can report in this thread too, but they might get ignored.

Awesome work, I always wanted to try Windows 8's touch interface.
It works nicely, however it has some glitches, like tapping in one section of the panel actually translates in the other side of the screen, taps on the start screen get interpreted as scrolling, etc.
It's kinda difficult to hit small buttons tho
Nice work, would like to see more of this.
Keep it up :good:

Lean946 said:
Awesome work, I always wanted to try Windows 8's touch interface.
It works nicely, however it has some glitches, like tapping in one section of the panel actually translates in the other side of the screen, taps on the start screen get interpreted as scrolling, etc.
It's kinda difficult to hit small buttons tho
Nice work, would like to see more of this.
Keep it up :good:
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I fixed the tapping bug, thanks. v0.2 alpha: https://github.com/downloads/Digiex..._07170ef033b5a3eade530a78d9de395e3350da3a.zip
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v0.3 alpha adds minimizing to taskbar and saving calibration settings. Also a button to run as admin so touch input works everywhere. Download: https://github.com/downloads/Digiex/SynapticsToTouch/SynapticsToTouch_v0.3_c3902b3a54.zip

This is Great! I have been looking everywhere for something like this. To be honest I don't know why the synaptics touchpad isn't designed like this from the start. Synaptics says it has a suite of gestures. Well that's all well and good but half the time the gestures just get in the way. For instance sometimes I just move my finger from left to right and all of a sudden I find myself going from the desktop to the "Start" menu (the one with the apps).
Just noticed something: Is there anyway you can make a keyboard shortcut override? Because of course as soon as you touch the pad it is interpreted as a mouse/finger down event, yet getting the precise location is difficult. So if there was a way to override the mouse/finger down event just until you are in the right area that would be good I think. At least until the user gets used to where on the touchpad to touch in relation to the display.

What the deference with official Synaptics app. official work very good for me

vasiaeva said:
What the deference with official Synaptics app. official work very good for me
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What official app?

vasiaeva said:
What the deference with official Synaptics app. official work very good for me
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This app allows you to touch anywhere on your touchpad and have the cursor move to that location on the screen as if you had a touch screen

whats the Most stable rom+kernel n7 (2013)

I'm just wanna know if there is a cool customizable ROM that is ideal for everyday use and for playing games without it crashing or closing unexpected. I currently have CM ROM + Elemental X 1.3 kenrnel and im liking how it running except when I put my 10 fingers on it and tap rapidly then I stays there for a little while like for about 4 seconds I'm just wondering if that's normal thanks.

Why do you need to put ten fingers on the screen?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4

OK so my 10 finger answer got answered but how about when I hold one finger on the screen then I put a second finger on it then I take one finger off and it still shows that i 'm still holding it there but right after I move my finger it takes the second ghost finger off..??

thahimfo392943 said:
OK so my 10 finger answer got answered but how about when I hold one finger on the screen then I put a second finger on it then I take one finger off and it still shows that i 'm still holding it there but right after I move my finger it takes the second ghost finger off..??
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Never mind i found out that the 2 finger thing is normal already tried on other android and I get same result..thanks anyway for trying so hard for helping :silly:

thahackr said:
I'm just wanna know if there is a cool customizable ROM that is ideal for everyday use and for playing games without it crashing or closing unexpected.
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There is that section that you can go and find roms, kernels and other staff, it is called "Development".
Try many roms and see by yourself what suits you better, there is no such thing as "best rom", it depends on your needs, likings, etc... So this thread has no purpose and therefore..
Thread closed.

Touchscreen delay - anyone else experience this?

Running the latest global beta 7.6.1 ROM just updated tonight... was same on 7.5.16 too
My Google pixel does not experience this.. It is really bad on games too - like Pixel Gun and Minecraft PE

I have similar stuff happening on 7.5.19 Xiaomi EU ROM. But it doesn't bother me.
Basically, I think the ROM gives some tolerance on how far should the initial movement has gone to unlock the pointer from the initial position. Definitely not a hardware problem.

Does anyone else have this issue? I am thinking about returning my MI6.. can anyone else take a video using the multitouch tester like me, and doing a touch and fine movement on the screen without making the circle move? please help! I really need to know if this is just the phone, or whether mine is faulty. thanks so much in advance

cheetah2k said:
Does anyone else have this issue? I am thinking about returning my MI6.. can anyone else take a video using the multitouch tester like me, and doing a touch and fine movement on the screen without making the circle move? please help! I really need to know if this is just the phone, or whether mine is faulty. thanks so much in advance
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Actually the touch is very sensitive, just the way they decide that if you put down the finger like that, no mistouch (no movement is recorded). Whenever I play game, just push enough and move your finger and I have no problem with that (as a habit of gamers, I don't stiched my fingers on the screen that much).
Actually if you put the finger down and move it a little, it move the circle. But if you hard push for longer, slightly move don't move the circle. Hope you can sort it out.
Sent from my MI 6 using Tapatalk

That's what I have suggested to him too.
There shouldn't be a problem if you immediately move your finger upon touch. It's just if you don't move, it'll create some threshold in order to the cursor to be movable from the initial position.

Does the multitouch works good when you are not holding the phone in the hand? try putting the phone on a pilliow and try using 5 fingers on the screen with this multitouch tester app and see if it recognize all 5 fingers.
I had the nexus 7 2013 and it had that problem :/

someone261 said:
Does the multitouch works good when you are not holding the phone in the hand? try putting the phone on a pilliow and try using 5 fingers on the screen with this multitouch tester app and see if it recognize all 5 fingers.
I had the nexus 7 2013 and it had that problem :/
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There's actually no problems at all touching the screen. its only when I touch then drag, I need to move my finger greater than 5mm for it to recognise the finger is moving - if moving the finger slow... Watch the video I posted in first post and you understand.
In a game, for example. playing a FPS game like Minecraft - you select the block you want to remove and then you swipe your finger from that block to the next its very jerky, because the pointer does not unlock with small finger movement. takes big movement then its unlocked. once unlocked its fine - the whole time I don't lift my finger from the screen..
So its really annoying playing games - because I have to touch the screen, then swipe to unlock the pointer, then I can aim and shoot at the enemy or remove blocks in minecraft.
Some have said its the game, but you can also try with the stock launcher - going between screens of apps, you swipe left or right, it takes 5mm finger movement before the screen starts to move to the next..
I tried the inbuilt Finger touch sensor tester, and the touch and move finger 5mm is represented as 2 pixel dots - instead of a line. so something is farked up in the software. I have 2 x MI6 (bought another to test) and both seems the same... Xiaomi need to fix...

Well my Mi 6 is on the way from GearBest China and when i will get it i will install the Global Rom and will try to do this test with this app and will see if i have the same problem as you.

Purchased mine on Gearbest aswell (international rom), came with 8.0.2.0 upgradeable to 8.2.2.0, I upgraded and I have not this problem at all.

Maybe they fixed it with the latest update?

someone261 said:
Maybe they fixed it with the latest update?
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I'm on 8.2.2.0 stable global. nup..

someone261 said:
Does the multitouch works good when you are not holding the phone in the hand? try putting the phone on a pilliow and try using 5 fingers on the screen with this multitouch tester app and see if it recognize all 5 fingers.
I had the nexus 7 2013 and it had that problem :/
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I also have Nexus 7 2013. The problem was jittery touch when you do multi-touch. It's kinda different problem.
But the case in Nexus 7 2013, it can be fixed by pushing the fix via ADB.

Same here.
But i think the developers want it.
I think it is a feature, not a bug. For better usebility.

Yes lol, a feature that we don't really want exactly like the notification light new feature which is that it only have one color - white.

Hmmm.. Maybe I'll order the OnePlus5 when its out... and use the MI6 as a spare

cheetah2k said:
Hmmm.. Maybe I'll order the OnePlus5 when its out... and use the MI6 as a spare
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Some googling suggests that's it possible to to calibrate the touch screen, did you try that?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/37umy0/tip_calibrate_your_xiaomis_touchscreen/

-Zteam- said:
Some googling suggests that's it possible to to calibrate the touch screen, did you try that?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/37umy0/tip_calibrate_your_xiaomis_touchscreen/
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There's no "Touch calibration" option in my Xiaomi.eu ROM. Only "pass" or "fail"

-Zteam- said:
Some googling suggests that's it possible to to calibrate the touch screen, did you try that?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/37umy0/tip_calibrate_your_xiaomis_touchscreen/
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There's no way to calibrate the screen... a few apps on play store do nothing..

ArcOnFire said:
There's no "Touch calibration" option in my Xiaomi.eu ROM. Only "pass" or "fail"
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There's no way to calibrate the screen... a few apps on play store do nothing..
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Okey, I don't own this device so I had no way to check, if it was possible or nor, I do consider buying this device myself, but that touch issue, sounds really annoying....

-Zteam- said:
Okey, I don't own this device so I had no way to check, if it was possible or nor, I do consider buying this device myself, but that touch issue, sounds really annoying....
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I tested this, on a friends Xiaomi Rednote 4, the touch delay wasn't there as far as we could see, so it doesen't seem to a feature of MIUI, maybe it's a bug or something.
It was running MIUI 8.1 I believe.
If it is a bug, you should ask Xiaomi to fix it.