Hi, I have a new UK rhodium
unfortunately, the built in opera 9.5 (build 16643) browser crashes on too many pages (including some that i need to use). So i installed 9.7. Firstly, the rendering is faster - which is nice. but the zoom bar doesn't work with it (although i can hold and zoom with the popup), which might suffice. however i cant get it to go landscape. has anyone a fix/workaround for this?
Another problem, which drives me nuts, is that entering URLS using the on screen keyboard is really slow (inside opera). I think opera is trying some sort of URL completion or something. but you press a button and there is randomly a delay. then you hit it again and get two and then delete, which there is also a delay, then you get two deletes and so on. it's infuriating! can this be switched off??
thanks for any info,
I have the same issues with Opera 9.7
Another alternative you can try is Skyfire. It has issues of its own - for example I find the rendering is sometimes poor quality and blocky - but it seems a fairly good browser in general and worth trying.
Also, it supports Flash out of the box.
the rendering is terrible! totally blur-tastic!
Install G-Config - the classname of Opera 9.7 is different, so the G-Sensor doesn't recognize it for the auto-rotation. It works fine for me now...
I still can't get the zoom-thing working though.
Had exactly the same issues with Opera 9.7.
Further it hasn't allowed me to download anything. The Screen appeared but as it didn't let me save anything.
Guess there has to be a lot of tweaking to make 9.7 really usable. So far I stay with 9.5.
You would not be able to download anything in Opera 9.7 if Turbo mode is on. Turn it off and you should be able to.
Don't think the solution has been found yet for the scrolling function... any ideas? I'm thinking it's a registry hack similar to GSensor
thanks for the g-config tip. i was hoping the zoom is a reg hack too. how did it work with 9.5 - it can't be a lot different.
Anyone make any progress on this? I hate Opera 9.5... I simply cannot click links with a reasonable degree of consistency... Opera 9.7 is a lot better... but the scrolling function is something I need.
Slaman:
Found the same- hitting links, even zoomed in, seems to be a hit or miss affair.
Can't wait for Fenec to make a beta debut! Was supposed to be summer... we'll see.
I just uninstalled 9.7 because of both the lack of autorotation and the lack of zoom, although it does render faster. How do I do the g-sensor hack?
jblade1000 said:
I just uninstalled 9.7 because of both the lack of autorotation and the lack of zoom, although it does render faster. How do I do the g-sensor hack?
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Not to sound like a jerk... but there were only 10 posts in this thread before you posted. You couldn't skim through them to find the answer for your question?
The zoom function is enabled in the SmartScroll registry key. It's in HKLM/Software/HTC or HKCU/Software/HTC. I can't remember which. Anyways, just replace the 9.5 path with the 9.7. There, scrolling solved! Also, I don't like Skyfire anymore since it seems to be built exclusively for QVGA devices (it uses pixel doubling, which is really noticeable and ugly on this huge screen).
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The zoom function is enabled in the SmartScroll registry key. It's in HKLM/Software/HTC or HKCU/Software/HTC. I can't remember which. Anyways, just replace the 9.5 path with the 9.7. There, scrolling solved! Also, I don't like Skyfire anymore since it seems to be built exclusively for QVGA devices (it uses pixel doubling, which is really noticeable and ugly on this huge screen).
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I don't see any SmartScroll registry key in either of those two locations...
So close!!!! I added a new folder called "Opera Mobile" under HKLM/SOFTWARE/HTC/SmartTouch and then added two keys:
(DWORD) WheelCount = 12
(String) FullPath = "/Program Files/Opera Mobile/opera9-ml.exe"
and now the zoom thing along the bottom scrolls page up and down! Now I just need to be able to figure out how to convert the page up/down scroll command into zoom!!!
Any update getting the zoom to work?
Video playback on Opera 9.7
What do I need to download for flash to work on opera 9.7 or 9.5 for that matter? Flash lite or somethin?
finally anyone know how can fix the slide zoom bar? on opera 9.7?
Search and Ye Shall Find:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
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Joe Pinball said:
Search and Ye Shall Find:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
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This is the same reg tweak that slaman posted about above; it makes the zoombar scroll in Opera, but it doesn't make it zoom. Anyone know how to make the zoombar zoom in Opera 9.7? Thanks
Related
http://www.access-company.com/produc.../34_wm_tp.html
Did a search, didn't find this in the forums
Seem superior than opera mini 4 so far (faster loads, zooming, etc.) visual bookmarks is very nice. The license expires in Feb 08, check it out.
EDIT:
It seems that the page pilot (the opera mini like pan and zoom) functionality does not work on all win mob devices (I'm trying to figure it out right now). You may want to hold off on dl the cabs (unless you like to mess with this kind of stuff) untill we figure out how to get page pilot working. 12/4/07)
My initial impression...
This browser isn't nearly what Opera Mini 4 is. Pages don't display properly, pages don't display in "real" view but instead, they display similar to PIE except not as good.
Save your time... don't waste it on this product.
i second that, opera 4 is much better
Does anyone else have issues with Opera Mini like I do?
It doesnt rotate properly when you switch to landscape and I'm not keen on the input boxes when you fill in a web form (it changes the display to the opera input box rather than typing 'live' on the form).
Other than that, it is the best browser, but it's annoying.
Hey guys, when browsing websites in opera, I find that panning around pages is rather laggy. All other apps i have on my touch HD work very smoothly yet opera is the only exception. Is there anything i can do to improve performance? I have tried the new beta from the opera mobile website and whilst it is a considerable improvement in terms of how fluid it is, there is no zoom slider and no support for landscape. I am using Dutty's V3 final ROM. thanks
Anyone have any ideas
Does no one have a solution or atleast a way with which one could improve this?
I have the same problem. Please helped us ;D
There are no solution for this yet. The only one I can consider is browsing in portrait mode. Loading of the pages is faster than landscape.
rotating to portrait doesnt really help me...
are there any other internet browsers which offer more fluid browsing?
have you tried this? It's the same processor so it should work: http://www.fuzemobility.com/accelerate-your-kaiser-tilttouch-pro-fuze/
for me, the improvements arent so great.
you are supposed to run it and then press the home button to leave it running, right?
Try the Iris browser. I'm using it right now as my standard browser and it's working out pretty good. Rendering of pages is better then in 9.5 for me and it'll do till Opera Mobile 9.7 comes out.
ASK768 said:
for me, the improvements arent so great.
you are supposed to run it and then press the home button to leave it running, right?
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yes- run it, press 'enable' and it should say 'active' when you do that and hit home so it runs in the background (they're working on making it a system file so it always runs in the background but for now you need to just hit home).
i didnt find that the iris browser was any smoother. i found a new build of opera which has improved things somewhat, but i guess i just wait for opera 9.7 (like most) which will have open GL acceleration
Waiting for WinMo 6.5
I can't use none of the current browsers, Iris, Opera, etc. - they all work slow and sluggish...
I'm waiting for Windows Mobile 6.5...
WinMo 6,5 doesn't concern internet browsing. May be Opera 9,7 will be the Browser, that is the comments until now, but I'm not so sure about that. Probably will be there some improvements and optimizations, I hope at least.
Opera has just released Opera Mini 10 for WindowsPhones (cab).
[WWE :] http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/1000b1/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_1.cab
[RU :] http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/1000b1/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_1_ru.cab
This is Opera Mini not Opera Mobile like in the Thread
AxlR said:
This is Opera Mini not Opera Mobile like in the Thread
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When i loaded it, the screen shows opera mobile 10. Not opera mini.
Anyone tried this yet? Does zooming work with the TP2 slider?
Pardon my ignorance, what's the difference between WWE and RU?
WWE - World Wide English
RU - Russian (I think?)
More info here: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/11/18/opera-10-beta-for-windows-mobile-released/
Some observations:
-page load times are impressive
-interface looks clean and modern (has a Safari feel to it)
-quickdial page is a good idea, but not intuitive to customize.
-tabs management is pretty and works well
-zoombar doesn't work natively
-screen rotates only on keyboard slideout, not with g-sensor.(I suppose this can be solved with g-sensor utility programs)
-no precise zooming. You're either zoomed in or out. No in between. And you can't zoom further in.
-no more realtime text reflow. Text are formatted into columns so they can be read zoomed in.
-vertical scrolling is not locked. That is, when you scroll vertically to read a column of text, sometimes your scrolling may be off to one side. In v9.5 and 9.7, this slight horizontal movement is ignored intelligently. This isn't the case for v10
-can't disable java-script
-the browser occupies the whole screen. You won't even have access to your Start Menu and taskbar.
I like the feel of the new browser
personally its more finger friendly for me and just looks better,
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personally its more finger friendly for me and just looks better,
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I must say i agree, one question. How to stop it going to mobile websites. The Configpera trick does not work on the 10. Drives me nuts when going to mobile view for example google or youtube.
I second that call. How do we change the Browser String ID?
It crashed twice on me within the first 10 minutes! So I then un-installed it, only to realise I no longer had Opera 9.7!!! I Hard-reset to get it back, but is there a cab for 9.7 and will it still link to the internet tab on TF3d?
I liked the look, but still didn't find it as fast as Opera Mini, even with the Turbo mode....
it is not work on my LG KS20, WM6.0
RussBaker said:
It crashed twice on me within the first 10 minutes! So I then un-installed it, only to realise I no longer had Opera 9.7!!! I Hard-reset to get it back, but is there a cab for 9.7 and will it still link to the internet tab on TF3d?
I liked the look, but still didn't find it as fast as Opera Mini, even with the Turbo mode....
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Same problem...
When opera mobile 10 uninstalled it breaks the link in the TF3D to opera mobile 9.5. I now have it linked to IE...
Not sure how to get it back to opera mobile 9.5
anyone got flash working yet? movies?
no flash love here VZW TP2 running stock 6.1ROM
The officials *.cab for Opera Mobile 9.5 & Opera Mobile 9.7 are on official Opera's website. (www.opera.com)
Can someone tell me how to bring-in/import my current Opera bookmarks?
In 9.x versions I could copy "opera6.adr" (which I keep archived on my sd card) to the Opera9 folder under Windows, but copying that file to anywhere in the Opera10 folder under Programs didn't seem to work.
it's a BETA, stop expecting full version stability and features. . .
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it's a BETA, stop expecting full version stability and features. . .
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Isn't it OK to at least mention bugs? Or is not not permitted?
Since when is "just-use-it-or-not-but-just-keep-quiet" the XDA policy?
MCbrian, you're welcome sharing with us your point of view about Opera and what you liked and what you liked less.
So, as everyone can agree on, the IE browser sucks on the tilt.
Has anyone tried/is it possible to install an older version of IE (the one's from WM6.1?)?
Anyone have a CAB file we can try?
I used to use PIEPLUS on Internet Explorer browser awhile back.. that fit everything on the screen.
Probably wont need it with the 800x400 resolution but just because the screen grew, does not mean that they should be enlarging fonts or fitting the entire page on the damn window and scrolling like mad!
Try Opera Mobile 10 beta 2
Is amazing, fast smooth!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
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So, as everyone can agree on, the IE browser sucks on the tilt.
Has anyone tried/is it possible to install an older version of IE (the one's from WM6.1?)?
Anyone have a CAB file we can try?
I used to use PIEPLUS on Internet Explorer browser awhile back.. that fit everything on the screen.
Probably wont need it with the 800x400 resolution but just because the screen grew, does not mean that they should be enlarging fonts or fitting the entire page on the damn window and scrolling like mad!
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IE? Your device comes with Opera Mobile 9.5 which is superior in every way possible.
And yeah, do check out Opera Mobile 10 beta...
Hmm I'm not fond of any of the OPERA browsers..
Found my answer and solved my own dilema..
You can install Pocket IE that came with WM6.1 on the Rhodium here
(scroll down the thread a bit)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365743
Gives you back the same look/feel (and I dunno, possibly FASTER BROWSING?) as WM6 without all this crud thats on the STOCK ROM.
Will require a reset but installs fine on my device. CAB file so I should theoretically be able to remove/uninstall if I don't like..
orb3000 said:
Try Opera Mobile 10 beta 2
Is amazing, fast smooth!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
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myknyte said:
Hmm I'm not fond of any of the OPERA browsers..
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Sorry for quoting myself, but how is that you not found
well, first off.. it's BETA.
Secondly, I never really liked the interface of the Opera browsers .. whether standard or the Mobile ver.
Oftentimes, you'd have to tweak the hell out of the registry to get small sized fonts.. Else, everything is so big.
I managed to get IE6 on my TILT 2 --the same browser I am/was familiar with on WM6.
Without all the skin/fluff, the browser pulls up very quick .. unlike the stock one that comes with the ROM. With the 800x400 resolution and the small font size on IE, I can fit everything on the page.
Im loving it now. IE and webpages comes up waay faster.
With the stock IE and stock Opera Browser, pulling up the homepage took ..oh.. maybe like 45 seconds.
With IE (and I changed the homepage to Google), it takes a good 2-3 seconds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5082048#post5082048
You're definitely doing something wrong if the old IE is faster than the new IE or any version of Opera 9 and up.
Dear all,
Opera Mobile 10 is great. It's fast, smooth, and with plenty of useful functions. Finally we have a browser that compares to the iPhone's safari.
Unfortunately, if you install Opera Mobile 10 on your Touch HD, you lose some of the features of the pre-installed Opera 9. Here is a list:
Vibration when clicking a link
Opera 9 makes a short vibration when I hyperlink is tapped. Opera 10 misses this feature.
Solution:
None at the moment.
Special URL keyboard
In Opera 9, a special keyboard appeared when typing a URL in the URL bar: it contained a ".com" handy key, as well as other useful symbols. In Opera 10, the standard keyboard appears when typing URLs.
Solution:
None at the moment.
Touch HD arrow as back button
In Opera 9, the "left arrow" button of the Touch HD worked as back button in the browser. In Opera 10, this button simply minimizes Opera.
Solution:
None at the moment.
Internet tab push pages open Opera 9
In Manila/Sense internet tab, when clicking on a push page, Opera 9 is opened.
Solution:
Flash new ROM
Flashing a new ROM with Opera 10 pre-installed solves this problem. I am looking for something less "extreme", though, like a registry edit or cab file.
SSMaHo
Possible to use SSMaHo to redirect links in Manila. See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493810
and post #3. Not tested yet. Thanks to Koffein Schluck.
Internet tab push pages pick bookmarks from Opera 9
In Manila/Sense internet tab, when adding a push page, it is possible to pick it from the bookmarks. Unfortunately, the bookmarks are those of the default Opera 9.
Solution:
Flash new ROM
Flashing a new ROM with Opera 10 pre-installed solves this problem. I am looking for something less "extreme", though, like a registry edit or cab file.
Opera 9 cannot be uninstalled
Solution:
Flash new ROM
Flashing a new ROM with Opera 10 pre-installed solves this problem. I am looking for something less "extreme", though, like a registry edit or cab file.
I started this thread hoping to collect solutions and workarounds for all these issues, hoping to make Opera Mobile 10 perfectly integrated with Touch HD and Manila/Sense. Please help me! Reply to this message either proposing valid solutions or highlighting other missing features that I did not discover.
Hope to fill out this list with solutions soon!
maTTeo
a simple solution for 4,5 and 6 would be flashing a rom that has opera 10 installed by default
Solution for point 4:
There is a software called SSMaPa, you can RElink the shortcuts in Manila! Use the forim search to get it! Its free and not so difficult
I dunno if this is relevant or not, but the only thing stopping me from moving over to opera 10 is the lack of any decent zoom function. anyone know how to enable the zoomslider? or anything that allows you to zoom properly again? atm, i have to go to settings and adjust the zoom level from there, which is hardly intuitive
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a simple solution for 4,5 and 6 would be flashing a rom that has opera 10 installed by default
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Thanks for your answer. Yes, you are certainly right. I'll write this in the post.
On the other hand, I also would like a less "extreme solution". I have a ROM I am quite happy with ([ROM][WWE][26.02.2010] Miri WM 6.5 21893 :: V 38.0 [DISCONTINUED]), because it's fast, stable, and it has got what I needed. Plus, I don't want to flash a new ROM and hence lose all my data and configurations. Also, I think that many people don't really want take the time and effort to flash other roms. Hence I this post.
Cheers
maTTeo
Koffein Schluck said:
Solution for point 4:
There is a software called SSMaPa, you can RElink the shortcuts in Manila! Use the forim search to get it! Its free and not so difficult
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Thanks for the hint. I will try it. Did you try it already specifically for solving issue 4? Do you have more detailed instrusctions on how to use the program?
Cheers
maTTeo
Guys,
Opera 10 final has an options whether to set O10 default or not in the end of .cab installation process. i had such question, so no any 3rd parti softs requiered!!!
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I dunno if this is relevant or not, but the only thing stopping me from moving over to opera 10 is the lack of any decent zoom function...
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Same for me. Opera 10 is fine, fast but the zoom doesn't work like it should be (why it is now based on the page width???). Therefore it is not usable for me.
My solutions:
1. Install Touchresponse, great open source app, works in background, vibrates when you touch the screen.
2. Install Fingerkeyboard, has customizable buttons for .com, .org, .net, etc.
4. Remove internet tab from manila, put Opera 10 icon in programs tab - no flashing, installing or unistalling required.
Those work well for me.