I have been holding my breath waiting for unbranded HTC north america phone complete with front camera. I have been enjoying the kaiser and that camera ia handy. Do we think HTC is holding off till the carriers have released their frankenphones or are we not likely to see the full phone for NA frequencies?
The best guess is too look at the Touch Pro.
I don't believe there was any unbranded TP with NA 3G bands...
I fear you are right and just like the TP the TP2 will also not have a North American version release. The only contradiction (hope) I could find is this:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=24913
They are a great store, but they have this up for month now, so I fear it might have only been wishful thinking on their behalf. Also amazon.com had the US version on pre-order up until a few weeks, but they have already taken it down.
No idea, I am just hoping that an unbranded TP2 will come out soon with 3G frequencies matching ATT in a "EU outfit".
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Several readers are wondering when the new HTC Touch Pro 2 will be released by carriers, and which carriers will offer it.
HTC is currently planning to ship the HTC Touch Pro 2 to European customers in late May or early June, featuring Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional and the latest version of TouchFLO 3D. FCC recently revealed that HTC is also planning to offer an unlocked version of the HTC Touch Pro 2 supporting AT&T's 3G network this summer.
I have also included the link. http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10233.html
that's great news!!! I'm really thinking of buying an unlocked one, but only as long as it supports AT&T's 3G network. the only thing holding me back is that if I do buy an unlocked one I won't have any insurance or warranty on it. wait, does anyone know if any form of insurance or warranty is offered if you buy an unlocked version of a phone?? (sorry I've never bought an unlocked phone before) cos it's getting pretty hard to wait for fall to come so I can buy the subsidized TP2. and plus, by then AT&T will most likely have messed around with the hardware and appearance of the phone.
poppinpengawen said:
that's great news!!! I'm really thinking of buying an unlocked one, but only as long as it supports AT&T's 3G network. the only thing holding me back is that if I do buy an unlocked one I won't have any insurance or warranty on it. wait, does anyone know if any form of insurance or warranty is offered if you buy an unlocked version of a phone?? (sorry I've never bought an unlocked phone before) cos it's getting pretty hard to wait for fall to come so I can buy the subsidized TP2. and plus, by then AT&T will most likely have messed around with the hardware and appearance of the phone.
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Im in the same boat. I prefer an unlocked (untampered with) phone, but worried about the lack of Warranty
I have bought a Tytn, Tytn II and a Touch Pro direct from HTC, certainly in the UK their warranty is good, its longer than a year certainly (I think 2 but dont quote me). I will be getting the Touch Pro II direct from HTC again, Im bored of being held to ransom by the operators.
i know that if we buy an unbranded TP2, it will more than likely come with a 1 year manufacturers warranty. that sets me at some sense of ease. but does anyone know if an unlocked TP2 will support U.S. AT&T's 3G bands? i've been hearing 2 different answers: some say it will some say it wont. can anyone supply some evidence? i'm trying to compile all the evidence and reasoning i can so i can make my final decision as to buying it unbranded or just waiting for a subsidized version that i know will work with AT&T's 3G bands here in the U.S.
also, does anyone know if HTC will sell it for less or more than those sites like expansys and such?
If they release an unlocked one directly to the US, I am sure it will support either both AT&T and T-Mobile, or they will have 2 separate ones that support either.
So I'm looking around for a Rhodium to pick up, and find out that (at least that I've found) don't have the 3G network data for the US... just every other country >_>.
I *really* want this phone. I have a tilt and this is the next logical step. However, the ATT version has a crap keyboard, so I want the original model. So my question is: Is it possible to manually update the 3g network data for US usage? It's kind of pointless to spend over 600 bucks on a phone that I can't use to it's full potential.
Second, anyone know where I can pick one up less than 600 bucks?
usually it has to do more with hardware rather than software, so you're out of luck. Less than 600, more likely it will be a used one off of here or ebay.
lordxiagan said:
So I'm looking around for a Rhodium to pick up, and find out that (at least that I've found) don't have the 3G network data for the US... just every other country >_>.
I *really* want this phone. I have a tilt and this is the next logical step. However, the ATT version has a crap keyboard, so I want the original model. So my question is: Is it possible to manually update the 3g network data for US usage? It's kind of pointless to spend over 600 bucks on a phone that I can't use to it's full potential.
Second, anyone know where I can pick one up less than 600 bucks?
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No it´s not possible
I understand your concern, on my case is the same or buy the beautyful european version without american 3g or wait till some american carrier bring it and with the diferences like keyboard, color, etc...
I am just about to decide to buy the europe version, just will wait till July 22nd as that date aperently att&t will have it on sale.
As for the price, if you want to buy an european version there are plenty sites with good prices like clove uk
Let´s see what happens?
lordxiagan said:
However, the ATT version has a crap keyboard, so I want the original model.
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from what has been posted on this forum, the at&t version does not have a crap keyboard. your probably talking about that picture that shows a red one with a jacked up keyboard. That is NOT the at&t version. Somebody here on this forum saw an at&t version in person and said that it has the same exact keyboard layout as the unlocked version.
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No it´s not possible
I understand your concern, on my case is the same or buy the beautyful european version without american 3g or wait till some american carrier bring it and with the diferences like keyboard, color, etc...
I am just about to decide to buy the europe version, just will wait till July 22nd as that date aperently att&t will have it on sale.
As for the price, if you want to buy an european version there are plenty sites with good prices like clove uk
Let´s see what happens?
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Where did you get that date of July 22 from?
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I am just about to decide to buy the europe version, just will wait till July 22nd as that date aperently att&t will have it on sale.
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I think it's T-Mobile that'll have it on July 22nd, with their T-Mobile weird/specific 3G bands, not AT&T. I'm still anxiously waiting for AT&T to announce the release date...
^yep, the July 22nd date is for Tmob...hopefully it won't be pushed back!
omaralt said:
from what has been posted on this forum, the at&t version does not have a crap keyboard. your probably talking about that picture that shows a red one with a jacked up keyboard. That is NOT the at&t version. Somebody here on this forum saw an at&t version in person and said that it has the same exact keyboard layout as the unlocked version.
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Orly? Yeah, I was talking about the one with the red keyboard (the red was cool, the 10-key was not >_>). If that isn't the ATT model, then what IS it and why is that picture out there?
If the att version is standard keyboard, then I'm all about getting one from att with (hopefully) US 3g.
Thanks for all the replies!
That was a mock-up picture. If you look at the slide it says 5-Row QWERTY but the picture of the phone shows a 4-row QWERTZ. I also doubt they would keep that hideous red color.
Hi,
I'm from Germany and want to buy the Sprint HTC TP2.
Now I found some pages that say i cannot use the phone here.
Because it has quadband i think i can use gsm here, but i don't know wether umts in Germany is fully supported.
Sprint homepage says it's an international phone, but i don't know much about the frequencies of umts and else.
Why I didn't buy the phone in Germany?
Here it costs $700, the Sprint version has a audio output (3.5mm), so i donÄt need any adaptor, and i like the full black hardware keyboard more than the silver german one.
So, what's about the umts and gsm frequency in Germany and would be there any problems?
Thanx,
CrossFire
Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
By the way, I bought my phone for 519 Euros in Germany. And unlike the US variety, it comes with warranty that's actually good in Germany and I have my two years of Gewährleistung that you don't get when you buy it abroad. Considering how expensive the phone would be to replace or fix when it breaks, you might want to make sure you can actually make use of the warranty coverage.
Alternatively, buy it from China. It's about 380 Euros there, but at least it's GSM. Mind you that shipping costs and particularly import taxes and duties make the price difference between a domestic and an imported device rather small. I don't think it's worth losing the warranty
xanthene said:
Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
By the way, I bought my phone for 519 Euros in Germany. And unlike the US variety, it comes with warranty that's actually good in Germany and I have my two years of Gewährleistung that you don't get when you buy it abroad. Considering how expensive the phone would be to replace or fix when it breaks, you might want to make sure you can actually make use of the warranty coverage.
Alternatively, buy it from China. It's about 380 Euros there, but at least it's GSM. Mind you that shipping costs and particularly import taxes and duties make the price difference between a domestic and an imported device rather small. I don't think it's worth losing the warranty
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Actually, the CDMA touch pro 2s are all world phones capable of quadband GSM/EDGE in addition to Euro 3G (2100mhz). The Sprint branded phones are sim-unlocked, but they just can't use US carriers like T-Mobile USA or AT&T.
I'm not guaranteeing that it'll work, but it should in Germany.
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Forget it mate. Sprint is a CDMA network. It won't get any signal at all in Germany since Europe ONLY uses GSM.
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
afaik, the sprint version should work just fine in Germany. It does have 3G GSM, and as long as you don't try it in the US you will be fine.
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
afaik, the sprint version should work just fine in Germany. It does have 3G GSM, and as long as you don't try it in the US you will be fine.
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My mistake. I have to say that there is no clear indication on either Sprint.com, HTC.com or Microsoft.com that says that GSM features the phone has. However, I checked the Sprint manual for the phone and it turns out it does support GSM.
Am I right in saying that GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS will work, but HSDPA/HSUPA won't?
xanthene: Just for future reference, if you are in need of a full detailed spec list, you can always visit www.pdadb.net. They always have a very comprehensive list with details on the phones that will be and have already been released.
I can stand Telstra and as they are only available in Australia via Telstra, i want to purchase one outright. I want to know if anyone knows if this phone will work well on the 3 network.
The unlocked HTC desire will work on any network in Australia (not as good on telstra). I'm getting mine from clove on the 7th . Plussss, it's ALOT cheaper getting it imported from the UK, all up it comes to like $550 if i can remember right. It will be around $800 outright from Telstra.
P.S i forgot to mention that you can't get it from t-mobile, you'll have to wait for the unlocked version.
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P.S i forgot to mention that you can't get it from t-mobile, you'll have to wait for the unlocked version.
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I'm pretty sure all of the T-Mobile ones are unlocked . Check with others on the forums. T-mobile is probably not an option anyway unless you have a UK address- I dont think they sell them outright??
Will definitely work on 3mobile Australia. I'm also getting one from clove. I'm checking about every hour to see if they have brought the shipping date forward
T-Mobile ones are LOCKED.
Both versions will work on Three, but the International version will not work on Telstra
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/?tag=Desire_models
by International I mean the sim-free/unlocked ones from Handtec/Clove etc
m0nr said:
Both versions will work on Three, but the International version will not work on Telstra
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/?tag=Desire_models
by International I mean the sim-free/unlocked ones from Handtec/Clove etc
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Ive asked for clarification of that from wiki mod. I don't see why you couldn't use NextG. Unless the APac model is different from the AU model, they all support the same bands.
Do you know any reason why NextG differs from other 850 networks? Not that I care - Id rather cut my arm off with a rusty saw than go on a telstra plan. Just curious, thats all.
If you're living in Tokyo and want to play around with the phone, they have 2 of them on display at the Docomo Smartphone Lounge near Yurakucho Station.
The nice lady there said they didn't have confirmed release date yet. She thought maybe the end of November.
Do you know if there will be any differences between the japanese version and the european/american one?
As I live in Japan it will be easier for me to get it here. But always japanese handsets have problems, with additional hardware or some small difference.
I just want an unlocked device to cook my roms...
no idea. I've always got my phones overseas in the past. The ones in the docomo lounge had no docomo logo, so I'm guessing they were engineering demo models. I guess we ll have to wait for the release models and check the versions listed there to compare with the overseas ones.
I went in a Docomo shop on Sunday and the one they had seemed to be pretty standard to me. What do you think?