Hi
I have just got my XDAIIs and the Wifi works, however the signal quality is poor i.e 30-40% and the TX rate is only 2M. This is with power save mode setting set to best performance and I am within 1 metre from the wireless router.
ANy ideas
mine is the same
What wireless router are you guys using? I've noticed it varies with different brands. At home I've got an Apple Airport Extreme and I get about the same as you guys, whereas at work we use 3COM wireless routers and at a distance of a few meters I get about 75-80% reception.
Dimitri
I'm using a 3com and reception is around 60% anywhere. Whether I'm stood next to it or upstairs and in the opposit corner of the house (i.e. lots of bricks in the way). It's not until I go outside and start walking away from the house that I get a sudden drop off.
In other words, I think the connection software is more at fault in how it reports the signal strength than the reception.
Real Wifi transmission rate
I read back a while ago here that the maximum transmission rate on the O2 xda II, not IIs, was limited to a throughput of 256K, eventhough reception was at 2mb etc, is this true for the IIs? This was was to internal systems of the xda etc, nothing to do with wifi card etc?
I've got a netgear and a buffalo and both are the same sort of reception
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I am using a Belkin WIreless router
Hi
Mines a Draytek 2600G complete with 2 high gain (5dBi antennae), same issues, poor wifi signal when not standing next to AP. Laptop with pcicma 54G card shows full signal at same location where XDA barely registers a signal.
This causes loads of problems with skype, which drops the call and takes the wifi connection with it (soft restart required to restore).
Nigel
Are you all using Bluetooth while trying to communicate with an 802.11 network?
Bluetooth and 802.11 both operate in the 2.4 GHz band, and because of Bluetooth's frequency hopping, it can seriously impair 802.11 performance.
Some devices with integrated Bluetooth and 802.11 have proprietary mechanisms to deal with this problem, but not all as it's not mandatory.
Hi
Nope, thought of that. Killed Bluetooth on handset, other bluetooth gadgets in house, other wifi stuff bar the AP and DECT phone, and I am not running the microwave!!
Same result, poor wifi range. Also tried with 3 separate AP's now same result each time.
Went to PC world this morning connected a couple of their demo IPAQ jobbies to their btopenzone AP, got the meters up and held mine next to ipaqs. Without fail, the IPAQ's were reading 3/4 signal and my XDA was barely registering a signal. Staff must have thought I was a nutter, but I wanted to prove the sh1te wifi issue to myself!
Nigel
Anyone got an SDIO wifi card that they can test with - i'd be interested to know now much better that performed.
Nigel
i'm sure it would perform mucho better. I get the 40% signal with my buffalo router... no matter where i stand. you'd think little things like this would have been discovered during the qa cycle.
I get a much better reception around the house with my XDA 2 with an SDIO sandisk Wi-Fi card than I do with my XDA IIs with built in Wi-Fi
I don't have a Blue Angel yet, as I'm waiting to see if many of the reported issues (like this one) get resolved. However, I have a few comments/questions/suggestions:
Does anyone here know where the 802.11 antenna is inside the Blue Angel's case?
Being a software engineer who develops device drivers for 802.11 hardware, I've worked with a fair amount of WiFi devices. Chances are, the problem everyone is experiencing with WiFi is almost sure to be due to a REALLY BAD internal WiFi antenna design. The antenna is either being shielded by something inside the enclosure or picking up interference from another component.
If it's possible to shut off the internal WiFi card, one way to test the above theory is to try an SDIO WiFi card in the Blue Angel. If anyone can try this, please post your results.
If we can get information about where the antenna is in the case, it might be possible to reroute the internal antenna, or (less desirable) attach an external antenna to improve reception.
In addition, improving WiFi reception will almost surely improve battery life as well as a side effect.
It amazes me that customers of a $900 device have to jury-rig solutions to so many problems...
I use an USB Wifi dongle by Asus, reception is good arround the house, even through a lot of walls
I agree with poster above wifi on blue Angel sucks
I have both Blue Angel and XDA2 +Socket SDIO, and there is no doubt that the Socket sdio XDA2 combo has noticeably better reception, having done tests (ie trying them both from a distant spot, XDA2 can maintain connection, XDA2s can't). I'm shipping the XDA2s back and waiting for the Mini/Magician. Reception is the key to this when trying to hop on random hotpsots in the streets...so sayonara Blue Angel, too bad though...
Also, FYI on XDA, speed limit is 256K, not 2mb, due to buffers etc. routers do not prefer either system and WEP works fine on both.
Has anyone managed to get the XDA2 and socket or sandisk SD wifi card working with a dling 54g access point namely the dwl2000ap+?
I've heard of a few issues with DLINK 54g access points and these cards?
Cheers
I have the SX66 / same as PDA2k but built like XDA IIs, I use the built in wifi alot but I also Have the SDIO Socket Card also and run it when a need longer distance. No conflicts of any kind that I have seen, works well with my D-Link Router but reception is not so good with built in.
Have a Linksys WAG54G 54mb, and have tried on Dlink 108Mb running both on mixed mode. One thing I will suggest that others have mentioned but cant be explained enough, as most people place their DECT phone next to their wireless router. There needs to be at least 2M distance between the two antenna's otherwise interference will kill signal dramatically, even on different channels.
With this said, have tried XDA Mini with combo wifi card, XDA2 with wifi card, and XDAIIs with builtin, and the power management turned off to give maximum power. Yes the IIs consumes the most amount of juice, followed by the XDA2, then the Mini.
On a quick scan, drive home using wififofum, with the 3 of them mounted on the dash, came up with the following results on drive to and from work.
Access points discovered
XDA2 - 78
XDAIIs - 89
XDA Mini - 82
I might also mention, that half of these have no encryption at all, or have left noobie default settings on routers - thanks guys ;-)
Overall like the IIs, except heats up too quick and loses battery life, especially using the wireless. XDA Mini rocks, just because the size and I can place the wifi card in when i need it, and the XDA 2 is just the stable toy I have had for the last 12 months.
where did you get the XDA mini?
I didn't know that it was out in the UK yet?
Sadly i am still experiencing a crackling and failing BT connection while on the phone with someone after upgrading from 1900 to 3500 (it did improve on my side)
I dont think this can be resolved at the time, so its not really my question. (but if there is a fix, please say so )
My real question is this:
Is there any way to use this headset to listen music on?
So that if i play an MP3 the music comes out of the earpiece of the BT headset and not out of the PPC Speaker?
Come on guys, i cant imagine i am the only one who wants to listen to music through his BT headset
My understanding is that the Blue Angel platform is not capable of doing this. I believe that there is something called ADP2 profile that is necessary to make this work.
Rick
same problem here
Is there anyone out there who uses their mda in combination with bluetooth without problems like sudden disconnects or crackling soundz?
To: Sabofx
I am using a Plantronics M2500 headset with my PDA2K and it is not bad. I previously used the Jabra BT250 but there was so much static that I stopped using it.
With the M2500 I sometimes get a little static at the beginning of a call (but no where near as loud as the Jabra) but it generally goes away in a couple of seconds as long as I have 2 to 3 bars of signal strength reception.
I normally carry my PDA2K on my right side and wear the headset on the same side. Then when I get in my truck, the PDA2K is placed in the mount on my dashboard about 1 meter from the headset.
One thing I have noticed though, if I am talking on the phone via the headset and I am holding the PDA2K in my hand and moving it around at arms length the static tends to come back. If I place the PDA2K on my desk or in the car mount so it is stationary, the static goes away.
Also, in observation, there is no way I get more than 3-5 meters of distance before loosing the bluetooth signal. For example, I can keep a connection while I am putting gas in my truck but as soon as I walk about 5 meters away from my truck, I lose the connection. Also, ocassionaly I have lost the connection with my PDA2K on my belt (right side) if I have on a heavy winter coat. This only happens ocassionaly though.
Hope this helps.
I am using GPSlim236 (GR-236) Bluetooth paired to a pocket PC (O2 XDA IIs). Navigation Software is TomTom Navigator 5 Bluetooth and the TomTom GPS driver is v2.08.
I am very disappointed with my product GPS reception is mostly poor when used with TomTom Navigator. Standalone using TomTom GPS 2.08 is mostly OK
Other than returning the Holux product as unsatisfactory to Clove Technology I don't know what more I can do help please?
Purchased a GPS Active Antenna model DAM 10754A
I will update you with success if any
Using XDA IIs and Holux GPSlim236 is a disaster
Tested attaching active antenna and using TomTom v2.08 driver it is obvious that the satellite strength is significantly improved. Simple test is plugging and unplugging the antenna cable and watching the satellite signal strength bars moving up on improved signal and down when no active antenna attached to the Holux 236
I have satisfied myself that the poor performance of the Holux GPSlim236 is entirely attributed to Bluetooth.
When the TomTom application process ceases I have identified that it is always the result of the Bluetooth process automatic disconnection.
I want to solve this problem with a solution that replaces the Bluetooth signal with a cable connection to my Pocket PC (O2 XDA IIs) any one have a recommendation?
2 Actually...
Question 1:
My wife currently has the Nokia N80 and is drooling (and I thought only guys did that) over the new N95 that is due to come out soon.
At the same time, she was looking for a Parrot Car kit because she needs a hands free kit in the car.
I was looking on line and seen the Parrot 3400 LS-GPS - Colour
Now since her next phone will have GPS in in and mine (HTC P3300) already has it, I thought it would be a good thing to get.
Anybody have any experience with the Parrot 3400 LS-GPS - Colour
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Question 2:
When I outside walking around, it takes me a very long time to get a lock on a GPS satellite - anywhere from 5 to 30 minutes.
Now when I am in the car, I get one within 2 minutes.
- Yes I use Quick GPS -
Since I ride a motorcycle and have a hard time getting a connection when I am not in a car, I have come to the conclusion that I need to get an external antenna for it.
What would be a good, external antenna to get with the HTC P3300?
i might be completely wrong (my head is exploding cause of stupid co-workers), but isnt this parrot for PDAs/phones without GPS receiver? if both yours and your wife's phones have a GPS receiver, why would you need another one?
i think the Parrot 3400 LS-GPS - Colour is a GPS receiver for PDAs/phones which can run a map software but dont have a built-in GPS receiver. basically, it seems to be a standard bluetooth gps adapter (with additional handsfree functions).
or maybe i just completely misunderstood what you are telling us
That's what i understood from the description. As a GPS Antenna and Hands Free Kit it provides PDAs/Smartphones with GPS Data and a hands-free service. I agree with soardiac and would say, that this is just a bluetooth Hands-Free Kit with built-in GPS Receiver and a fancy display which shows phonebook and Call ID Pictures. I would suggest you to save your money and get a normal Parrot Car-Kit, just used mine again today and it's working flawlessy and with high quality
Anyone else having problems with the N L 900 not maintaining the connection via bluetooth headsets? From my left hip to my right ear the connection will drop for no apparent reason then reconnect 30 seconds later. I have tried two different headsets, Jawbone and Elite Sliver, and the problem persists.
I have a bluetooh module in the house that my phones pair to so I can answer calls with landline phones, a car kit and two stereo headsets.
I have never dropped connection with 4 different manufacturers equipment.
I have seen amazing range and no dropoouts with BT. I left my headset on my desk and went downstairs with the phone and was shocked to see it still paired. It's almost *too* good.