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I've heard some people say they get 3 days out of their desires and others saying they get just over a day.
This thread it would be great to collect a list of people with desires and their average battery life as well as a list of apps they have installed and widgets on display and maybe the rom they are using.
Just trying to work out
I'm going to collect data and put something up tomorrow - but I noticed last night that my battery went down really quickly when my Alarm went off (using Gentle Alarm) I also confirmed this using JuicePlotter which showed the battery sharply decrease just at the same time in which my alarm was set to go off.
I also noticed that having wifi turned on didnt seem to effect battery life that much...
Yeah my battery lasts really well leaving WI-FI on too. Not sure why others have an issue with it.
My battery will last a day tops turning on from 7.30 and off again around 12am ish
During day I will use Seemic (on manual update) and use FB on net every now and then.
May occasionally go to the Market for Updates.
I only use mobile Network when I need to so I turn off and on when required.
I will play Word Up and Solitaire for 30 -40 mins a day roughly.
Battery % will vary between 65 - 45 by 6.30 pm
Today it is down to 75% at 2.10pm - although I've not played any games today so far.
I bought an X10 and returned it because the battery wouldn't last even a day despite having all kinds of task-killing crap installed.
Then I bought a Desire and had the same problem - 6, maybe 7 hours of battery.
I found a post on some obscure blog that helped me track down the culprit: there are apps that don't let the device go to sleep completely. I had two of them. And Android (at least the HTCs) have a built-in function to see exactly what those processes are:
From the dialer: *#*#INFO#*#*, choose Battery History from the menu and then Partial Wake Usage. Nothing should have more than a tiny fraction of a bar. But on mine, Grooveshark was using 99%. I uninstalled it, tried again a few hours later and saw that Mikandi was using 99%. I uninstalled that, and now I'm getting more than 24 hours of heavy use.
Some apps just don't behave.
Why would Dialer App have such a high network usage?
It shows up as using a lot of network!
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Why would Dialer App have such a high network usage?
It shows up as using a lot of network!
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choccy31 said:
Why would Dialer App have such a high network usage?
It shows up as using a lot of network!
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Wouldn't the dialer use the network to call people when you dial?
Thanks for the "cheat code" on the hidden menu. Very interesting.
I can sometimes squeeze 2 days out of my battery. I'll only get a day and a half on this charge though because of lots of txting and facebook use.
I found this menu option in Settings > "accounts & sync" > Background Data. I turned this off and seem to get a little more battery.
Changing the brightness down a bit helps, and i'll set the screen timeout to lower as its at 1 minute now. Plus If I use friend stream instead of the facebook widget then it updates when I want to and doesnt keep active.
Least amount of battery time i've had is a day. I never turn my phone off.
I never get a full day out of mine, maybe 8-10 hours max... I have no idea how some people claim 3 days, I'm not exactly a power user!
Stock ROM (not a provider one, just generic) on T-Mobile UK network
Wi-Fi and GPS off
Widgets: Standard Flip Clock, SMS, FriendStream, Stocks (2hr update), Agenda, News (2hr Update)
Market Programmes: K9 Mail (1Hr e-mail updating), ES File Explorer, Shazam, Voice Search, Pkt Ebay, Tricorder, UK TV Guide, GBCoid
In Standby (screen off), not using web, not calling, not texting, not using apps, I lose around 10% per hour, faster if anything at all is on.
Oddly, despite the very poor (for me anyway) standby life, in call life seems really good, I made a call last night for an hour, where phone was in the orange phase when I started and still hadn't gone red at the end...
Pauly
I wanted to try turning background data off but sadly the market does not work when you have this turned off (a warning pops up when you try)
dieselboy said:
Wouldn't the dialer use the network to call people when you dial?
Thanks for the "cheat code" on the hidden menu. Very interesting.
I can sometimes squeeze 2 days out of my battery. I'll only get a day and a half on this charge though because of lots of txting and facebook use.
I found this menu option in Settings > "accounts & sync" > Background Data. I turned this off and seem to get a little more battery.
Changing the brightness down a bit helps, and i'll set the screen timeout to lower as its at 1 minute now. Plus If I use friend stream instead of the facebook widget then it updates when I want to and doesnt keep active.
Least amount of battery time i've had is a day. I never turn my phone off.
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True re the dialer. Was thinking network as on net use.
anyone got background data or mobile data turned off?
if so whats your battery life like?
also anyone tried with 3G on and compared to GSM ONLY?
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I bought an X10 and returned it because the battery wouldn't last even a day despite having all kinds of task-killing crap installed.
Then I bought a Desire and had the same problem - 6, maybe 7 hours of battery.
I found a post on some obscure blog that helped me track down the culprit: there are apps that don't let the device go to sleep completely. I had two of them. And Android (at least the HTCs) have a built-in function to see exactly what those processes are:
From the dialer: *#*#INFO#*#*, choose Battery History from the menu and then Partial Wake Usage. Nothing should have more than a tiny fraction of a bar. But on mine, Grooveshark was using 99%. I uninstalled it, tried again a few hours later and saw that Mikandi was using 99%. I uninstalled that, and now I'm getting more than 24 hours of heavy use.
Some apps just don't behave.
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Well the only app that have a bigger bar is Android System... Is this normal?
Settings ; About phone ; Battery ; Battery use and it will tell you when it was last unplugged and what has been using it.
4h 27m
Cell standby - 45%
Phone idle - 45%
Wifi -7%
Android system - 5%
Display - 2%
Obviously you can see from that I've hardly used it. A few texts, checking email periodically. Display brightness is on full, weather update is set to manual. Only have a few apps installed. Main one being data counter widget.
2000kb wifi
780kb cell.
Oh, and SystemPanel, tells me I have 93%.
Switch off 3g when you don't need it,this can nearly double your standby/idle time ,use a 2g-3g toggle if its a pain.
Juice defender with its plotter can give you very useful info on when your phone is using its battery the most.
On idle with 2g 1% per hour is normal, with 3g 2-4 %.
As soon as that screen goes on start thinking 15-20% per hour!
Most smart phones are the same,my x1 ,touch pro all got caned when I first got them,but a bit of experience and a few tweaks later they were doing 3-4 days.
Also flatten it and fully charge it when switched off helps too.
My battery life is pitiful too, im a pretty light user now ive had time to play with the phone for a while but battery will always need to be put on charge by around 10pm when only unplugged around 7am the same day.
I bought up the partial wake usage list and UID followed by a number is using twice the power of Android System.
Does anyone know what the UID is?
My battery life was rubbish until i updated the radio version to 32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2. I am also using MCR3.1
Before my battery life would be fully discharged within 7 hours. Now i have 1day+ Not too sure as i now have a brodit car mount that charges my phone during my commute.
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My battery life was rubbish until i updated the radio version to 32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2. I am also using MCR3.1
Before my battery life would be fully discharged within 7 hours. Now i have 1day+ Not too sure as i now have a brodit car mount that charges my phone during my commute.
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To update, do you need to root your device? I don't want to root mine, but I want to get the best battery life possible.
I;'m now using the beta version of Juice Defender
and i've disabled always on mobile data
will let u know how i get on
Ok I'm now onto day 2 using the desire with the following settings
Juice Defender Beta with Ultimate Juice
- wifi on all the time when in known location
- APN / WIFI off when screen is off
- APN off between 0:00 and 6:30
Always on Mobile data turned off (via networks)
Removed al unneccesary widgets (using ADW Launcher) - currently not using any widgets that sync content
Gmail set to only sync 1 days worth of content
Calendar Sync turned off
Contact Sync turned off
--- Usage -----
Approx 2 hrs worth of calls
1hr watching MP4 videos
browsing the web approx 30mins
checking marketplace - 10mins
replying to emails (approx 20)
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Currently the battery is at 46%
Was 100% on Wednesday 5pm 2nd June 2010
If it makes it through the night I'll be very happy - will report back
im getting somewhere between 38 - 48 hrs on a charge, no task manger installed with wifi and gps enabled.
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Ok I'm now onto day 2 using the desire with the following settings
Juice Defender Beta with Ultimate Juice
- wifi on all the time when in known location
- APN / WIFI off when screen is off
- APN off between 0:00 and 6:30
Always on Mobile data turned off (via networks)
Removed al unneccesary widgets (using ADW Launcher) - currently not using any widgets that sync content
Gmail set to only sync 1 days worth of content
Calendar Sync turned off
Contact Sync turned off
--- Usage -----
Approx 2 hrs worth of calls
1hr watching MP4 videos
browsing the web approx 30mins
checking marketplace - 10mins
replying to emails (approx 20)
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Currently the battery is at 46%
Was 100% on Wednesday 5pm 2nd June 2010
If it makes it through the night I'll be very happy - will report back
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Stating the obvious, but if you don't use your phone, your battery will last a long time!
Personally I need to use my phone (otherwise why would I have bought it) so have push email running with full Exchange sync 8 till 8, FB & Twitter syncing once an hour, spend a couple of hours a day making calls, connect to WiFi using my iPass account whenever a hotspot is available and spend a lot of time dealing with emails etc.
I put my "less than a day" battery life down to the fact that my screen is on and doing stuff for much of that time.
Of course if I just leave the phone on the desk at the side of me and don't touch it all day, even with push mail and all that sync, if the screen is not turned on much, I get 2 days.
It's the screen that eats the battery. The more it is on, the shorter the time between charges.
Wow I don't understand how you people get such amazing battery life!
I am no noob anymore regarding Android and Smartphone's in general, so I understand most 'hints & tricks' in this thread. But simply for me this does not work.
Some important stuff:
- I ALWAYS have 2G on, never 3G.
- I use wifi at home and in most places I go
- I have almost everything set to 'manual' updating
Ok.
For example my last situation:
I unplugged it at 23.30 yesterday. I used it for a little bit, over wifi. Checking twitter, surfing the web, watching some video's in HTC Flash Player. I went to bed around 02.00, watched some Law & Order that's why it was so late. So before turning off the lights, I turned wifi off. The battery was around 80-85%, from what I remember.
I wake up at 12.00. The battery was still above 50%, that's for sure. I do some facebook, twitter, news, etc. All over wifi.
And now, just before 17.00, my battery was dead (while I almost typed this entire story on my Desire -.- I was pissed). So that means, about 17 hours? Which about 10 hours I slept and the phone was doing nothing, over 2G!
So yeah... and when I read all your story's about 2 days (48 hours) I am really like: WTF
Some more details:
-No live-wallpaper. Just the black 'carbon' one.
-I used to use LauncherPro beta, but battery life was just as bad. Now I am back on HTC Sense. I have some widgets, like the Calander widget, a small music widget, bookmarks widget, etc.
-I tried to find out what uses the most battery while sleeping with that code and it showed Android System. So nothing weird there.
-Again, everything set to MANUAL updating
-ONLY 2G.
-Brightness set to auto.
So really, I think it's my wifi that sucks the battery life out of my Desire. I remember when I went on a trip and was just 'listning' to music, my battery only dropped like 10 to 15% in 3 hours.
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Btw, I remember that this 'some people have great battery life some people don't' story was the same with the HTC HD2. The only different thing there was that I was one of the people with the 'good' battery life. Now I am on the 'losers' team
Any help would be great!
Hi,
I am having severe problems with battery life where Uptime is equal to Awake or at least very very close to it. I kill Calendar (calendar.bg process) each time after starting the phone, and still I suffer from problems. Today my battery died from 100 to 25 in 7 hours, and I removed both Flickr and killed Google Calendar Sync process again. I've noticed that too many times Google Calendar sync icon in the Google Content Provider window is turning around while there aren't any changes of Google Calendars I've made.
Is it possible and a good solution overall to turn off syncing Calendar via Google content provider and instead configure a Exchange with Google Sync?
I am not sure about calender killing but I just use juicydefender and thgat has massively improved my battery life to over double the time..... might be worth trying that....
I use JuiceDefender as well (UltimateJuice edition) but despite that my phone has died today, so far it is around 9% and I have absolutely no idea why it's dying so fast.
I think I must have some application that prohibits my phone from going into sleep mode. I turned off Flickr completely (I use PicPush to push photos online), I just removed Fring and eBuddy from my phone (I think the culpit may be eBuddy but not really sure). I use Executive Assistant although without Twitter/Facebook pulls.
My Twitter pull is 2 hours. My Facebook pull is 4 hours. I use both internal Sense Peeps and external Twitter for Android content providers because I like to have Peep tweets into my Contact List, althought I am looking for feedback if this is eating too much battery.
Anyway the major sync problem is the Calendar. IT'S TAKING AGES AND ALMOST EVERY TIME I GO TO SYNC WHEN PHONE IS SYNCING, IT'S CALENDAR THAT ROLLS ITS PROGRESS ICON TO NO END. I have no idea why HTC is doing this travesty with its phones, and absolutely no idea how to make Calendar behave on my phone.
Anyway, I ordered MUGEN 3200 MAh battery as a long-term solution. 7mm on the phone's width won't be the best thing to have but it is something I'll get used to if I want to have a phone that lives through a day even if used.
WHAT THE HELL!?
I have turned off Google Calendar sync, and configured Google Sync as Exchange for Calendar events only. Despite the fact, I've noticed the turning circle of sync progress in front of Google Calendar sync (in Google Account) even if it is unchecked. I am totally lost now, what can I do to resolve this?
My next Android may not be HTC.
Hmm - I had exactly the same problem, 'Calendar' using up most of the partial wake. However I'm not convinced it is really the Google Calendar itself causing the problem. I've still got the Agenda widget installed but switched off syncing for the 'Stock' app (as I never use it anyway) and also deleted my Flickr account from the phone - even after a few reboots that still seems to have done the trick and the Calendar partial wake is now miniscule and battery life has shot up.
Do you want to try removing your Flickr account completely and see if that helps?
I've already raised a ticket with HTC about this (and a few other issues). They weren't that helpful when I first emailed them, they've been much better since I phoned them and asked for it to be escalated to a level 2 agent. I'm now getting pretty much daily updates from their agent. They asked me to remove the Agenda widget to see if it helped but now I don't have the problem it's difficult to try these things out - I'm sure they'd be happy to work with you. After you've logged the issue then feel free to PM your email +/- ticket number and I can update my ticket to ask them to run through the troubleshooting with you too.
I have the same issue with my Desire, I don't know how the battery life can be this bad to be honest , but from what I have heard from the latest update the battery life has been really bad for a lot of people, but some others have been lucky.
I have emailed HTC, so lets see what they have to say. Looks like we may have to wait for the next software update so they can resolve this issue.
Other than that I love my Desire and am extremely happy with it
alanjrobertson said:
I've still got the Agenda widget installed but switched off syncing for the 'Stock' app (as I never use it anyway) and also deleted my Flickr account from the phone
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Meanwhile I did this:
I did a factory reset of the phone today, and reinstalled some of the apps I really use and none of those I just kept for rare occasions. I cut down apps that have processes as well.
I turned off Internet Time as I saw online it improved battery time. I don't sync Stocks. I do sync Weather however.
I did not add Flickr account.
I use Pure Calendar that uses the standard Calendar content provider. So I cannot turn off the content provider yet. I know Agenda but its not as good as Pure Calendar. But I did add Calendar content via Exchange. I noticed Exchange sync to be much much faster than the old dragging for a minute or two Google content provider calendar sync.
My battery dies to 95 over couple minutes. I guess calibration is screwed through factory reset as well, I should have never updated with the OTA but got tempted by the Memory Management optimization.
Same here, I dony sync google calander and no flickr. My facebook and twitter are set up for 2 hours and Im using juice defender ultimate. I noticed every time I unlock my fone after the screen gone off it starts to sync even though I have set up everything including mail for 2 hours. Calendar process is used by facebook sync and twitter sync so only way to disable it is to stop your syncs but I dont wanna loose my facebook picture sync so cant do that. Hope HTC improve this in the froyo update.
I used autostarts to disable some apps from starting and its been on for 50 mins so far after full charge and im down to 97% which aint too bad but I think juice defenders night mode helps that. Before autostarts I lost 1% every 5 mins. So try that guys.
It's me again, back to report my unsuccessful phone experience today
Well, apparently factory reset and trimming down the number of apps I use did nothing to prolong my phone's life. 10:00 to 18:00, it was down to 28% and losing 1% every 10 minutes, worse when screen is on. Basically, what I figured out is that it's not some rogue app installed on my device that has been triggering this bad lifespan. I also purchased SeePU++ and was really dishearted to see 60-70% CPU when the Calendar Sync process works, and it works almost constantly no matter I've set 2-4 hours frequency to Facebook and Twitter, and I'm using Exchange for Calendars where it has two frequencies set to 2 and 4 hours peak/offpeak times.
Listening to Music isn't good as well. Using DoubleTwist android app, phone remains warm while listening. Not good. Is the phone completely awake while listening to music even if the screen is off?
I've made the following changes for tomorrow, and I'll report again:
* I turned off Wireless Network Location. Not sure whether I'd live well without it, apparently my Latitude will suffer greatly and Tasker won't be able to use its Location triggers (GPS Fix triggers kill the battery in less than 2 hours), so will other apps that use rough estimation, especially if indoors.
* I revised my UnlimitedJuice. My current profile is:
** Timeout: N/A
** Schedule: Keep APN/WIFI disabled (I removed timed schedules as I suspect it kept my device from prolonged sleep)
** Night: Keep APN/WiFi disabled 0-7am (Use it just for the silent mode, otherwise it's probably charging)
** Traffic: N/A (I used to use Traffic to keep connections alive, but decided not to due to prolonged Calendar sync)
** Peak: N/A (obviously!)
** Charger: Leave APN/WiFi enabled while charging (obviously!)
** Screen: Leave APN/WiFi enabled while screen unlocked (obviously, again!)
If anyone is familiar with UltimateJuice, please let me know whether this sounds okay?
I think a culpit was the Schedule setting, as it must have kept my device constantly out of sleep to check my email. Not that I don't want that but until I stick a Mugen 3200 MAh battery in this device, I am wary against it not sleeping well. I also turned off Traffic as Calendar Sync has the stupid tendency to restart itself despite it is not expected to based on user-set frequency. No idea how to control this, no bugfix even estimated.
I think HTC doesn't really care about the life of their phones once they sold them to us. I am also very unpleased to find out how useless those fast 1 Ghz processors are when paired with old battery tech. I am looking at HTC Wildfire and it's 30-50% better battery life with somewhat of an envy. The only company that seems to bother to do something with batteries today is Apple. I won't draw conclusions especially under affect.
I have a question to all ROM-familiar users who have gone 2.2, does JIT improve battery life (through making code run faster, maybe using less CPU resources)?
raynerape said:
It's me again, back to report my unsuccessful phone experience today
Well, apparently factory reset and trimming down the number of apps I use did nothing to prolong my phone's life. 10:00 to 18:00, it was down to 28% and losing 1% every 10 minutes, worse when screen is on. Basically, what I figured out is that it's not some rogue app installed on my device that has been triggering this bad lifespan. I also purchased SeePU++ and was really dishearted to see 60-70% CPU when the Calendar Sync process works, and it works almost constantly no matter I've set 2-4 hours frequency to Facebook and Twitter, and I'm using Exchange for Calendars where it has two frequencies set to 2 and 4 hours peak/offpeak times.
Listening to Music isn't good as well. Using DoubleTwist android app, phone remains warm while listening. Not good. Is the phone completely awake while listening to music even if the screen is off?
I've made the following changes for tomorrow, and I'll report again:
* I turned off Wireless Network Location. Not sure whether I'd live well without it, apparently my Latitude will suffer greatly and Tasker won't be able to use its Location triggers (GPS Fix triggers kill the battery in less than 2 hours), so will other apps that use rough estimation, especially if indoors.
* I revised my UnlimitedJuice. My current profile is:
** Timeout: N/A
** Schedule: Keep APN/WIFI disabled (I removed timed schedules as I suspect it kept my device from prolonged sleep)
** Night: Keep APN/WiFi disabled 0-7am (Use it just for the silent mode, otherwise it's probably charging)
** Traffic: N/A (I used to use Traffic to keep connections alive, but decided not to due to prolonged Calendar sync)
** Peak: N/A (obviously!)
** Charger: Leave APN/WiFi enabled while charging (obviously!)
** Screen: Leave APN/WiFi enabled while screen unlocked (obviously, again!)
If anyone is familiar with UltimateJuice, please let me know whether this sounds okay?
I think a culpit was the Schedule setting, as it must have kept my device constantly out of sleep to check my email. Not that I don't want that but until I stick a Mugen 3200 MAh battery in this device, I am wary against it not sleeping well. I also turned off Traffic as Calendar Sync has the stupid tendency to restart itself despite it is not expected to based on user-set frequency. No idea how to control this, no bugfix even estimated.
I think HTC doesn't really care about the life of their phones once they sold them to us. I am also very unpleased to find out how useless those fast 1 Ghz processors are when paired with old battery tech. I am looking at HTC Wildfire and it's 30-50% better battery life with somewhat of an envy. The only company that seems to bother to do something with batteries today is Apple. I won't draw conclusions especially under affect.
I have a question to all ROM-familiar users who have gone 2.2, does JIT improve battery life (through making code run faster, maybe using less CPU resources)?
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2.2 ROMs on my Desire make my battery last even less. I lost 1% every 5 mins on any 2.2 ROM.
I get the syncing going on every time I switch screen on. no matter what I have set in the settings. I got 20% overnight between midnite and 9am while Juice Defender was on night mode.
This is very discouraging, Nekromantik. Seems like I shouldn't be as excited about the upcoming August 2.2 update, now. I don't trust HTC to resolve this problem given how every single new device is plagued (Desire/Incredible/EVO) and they do nothing about it.
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This is very discouraging, Nekromantik. Seems like I shouldn't be as excited about the upcoming August 2.2 update, now. I don't trust HTC to resolve this problem given how every single new device is plagued (Desire/Incredible/EVO) and they do nothing about it.
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yeah this has made me loose faith in HTC.
Battery life should be a big factor in smartphones. I should at least expect it to last 24 hours without a charge. Which is good enough for smartphones.
Just gotta add that even though my battery life is not that good, it does show that the phone does sleep as atm in the about menu it shows that the phone been on for 3 hours and been awake for 1 hour 30 mins. Which means it is sleeping but why am I still getting bad battery life all of a sudden after reflashing from Froyo ROM? I did a full wipe including a sd card wipe before I flashed Pays ROM back on. Makes no sense to me.
I'm having a very similar problem with battery life. Android System prevents my phone from going to complete sleep but strange enough - only during night when my phone is in airplane mode.
So I decided to switch off Automatic Network Time. This helped for one night and yesterday the problem reappeared again :-(
So last night I turned off location as well services and again it seems OK for now.
During the day my battery life is OK. I guess I could keep the phone turned on during night as well (as a bypass) but this is not how a smartphone of 21st century should work.
This is a mid-day report but I think I might have finally figured it out. And it's the most ironic solution ever!
I pulled the phone off the charger in 10:00, by 11:00 I was already at 88-86% and rapidly decreasing with only minor phone call activity. Then I turned off JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice and kept using the phone for contact list adding, single profile photo shot with camera, many long calls. Now it is 14:35 and my battery is at 69% - incredibly resistant compared to what I've had by that hour with less phone activity. Also, my phone seems to sleep much longer and more often than before when I used UltimateJuice.
It appears to me now that the reason the phone has been dying on me is JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice. Apparently the latest versions destroy the battery rather than save it!! I told you it's an ironic...
I will be reporting by 19:00 with the phone's actual lifespan over the course of the day but looks like I'll have a winner today.
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This is a mid-day report but I think I might have finally figured it out. And it's the most ironic solution ever!
I pulled the phone off the charger in 10:00, by 11:00 I was already at 88-86% and rapidly decreasing with only minor phone call activity. Then I turned off JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice and kept using the phone for contact list adding, single profile photo shot with camera, many long calls. Now it is 14:35 and my battery is at 69% - incredibly resistant compared to what I've had by that hour with less phone activity. Also, my phone seems to sleep much longer and more often than before when I used UltimateJuice.
It appears to me now that the reason the phone has been dying on me is JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice. Apparently the latest versions destroy the battery rather than save it!! I told you it's an ironic...
I will be reporting by 19:00 with the phone's actual lifespan over the course of the day but looks like I'll have a winner today.
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interesting.
I swear juice defender helped me during the night but I could always switch apn off during sleep. I lost 12% overnight but once I was awake I lost 6% in 45 mins while it was on standby.
It is 21:10 as I type and my battery shows 24% after moderate use day. My phone sleeps more (2 hours use for 11 hours day cycle) and it loses around 1-2% per hour when asleep.
The culpit is definitely UltimateJuice and I am at complete loss how an app meant to save battery can destroy battery.
Also, I noticed that waking my phone when UltimateJuice is not running does not trigger an annoying Calendar Sync (Sync All icon remains non-animated).
I decided to switch off mobile internet and only switch it back on when I wanted to surf/lurk on here/check mail etc. Uninstalled juicedefender but kept plotter. The amount of difference doing those things has been exponential. Before, my battery was dead in about 8 hours use. now it will last 17+. Even use it for music which I wouldn't risk when internet was always on.
For me it is the Location services and Network time that need to be switched off.
As I said I only get battery problems during night in airplane mode so I tested several settings and it seems that both Network time and Location services need to be switched off so they stop trying to update themselves.
Although I would imagine that once you switch your GSM module off that should be enough to also stop Network time and Location... Apparently my assumptions are dead wrong
I think its time to start a worldwide petition to HTC if they please could fix the problems with the battery. I cannot use my phone to call when I am not near a power source. After 15 hours the battery is down to 20% ..its so frustrating.
HTC know there are problems (perhaps the read some forums) and dont do anything about it. Thats not customer friendly.
I think Apple is more serious on that point and investigates every single way to save battery life.
Whats the use of a phone (mine is pretty basic with no specials programs on it) that could not last 1 day?
I think buyers must give a signal to HTC to take these sort of problems serious.
[Edit: Headline with typing error: "17 hours" is correct. Sorry for that.]
Hi everyone!
As I am a new member I am not allowed to post to the Development thread ("[ROM-GingerBread] Ginger Villain 0.9 Camcorder working (24-01)") to ask my question.
I hope this is the right position for my question...
I flashed to "Ginger Villain 0.9" yesterday in the afternoon, unplugged my charger having a fully charged device close to midnight.
Nine hours later the battery was down to 51%. This was during night, where I was not using the device.
Background sync and WiFi was on, even if the WiFi-network is off in the night.
I did not switch off WiFi with the original Sense-ROM (Froyo) or with the LeeDroid (2.3d) I used before, but I had to charge the device all 2-3 days - using it more than I did today.
Coming to the questions:
Is this fast discharging only a problem on my device, or do others have this as well?
What could be the reason for this?
Hope you can help me.
I've had GV0.9 on for a few days and not noticed any real difference in battery life. Before that I was on LeeDroid, before that stock HTC.
First day on GV I got about 39 hours. Pretty light use but that does include some wifi, and GPS with a running app. Pretty much exactly what I was getting before.
Today it's showing about 60% charged after 15 hours with again some browsing, music playback and general use.
What radio and kernel do you have? Also on the about phone - battery use screen where does most of the usage come from?
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Go into wireless and networks, wifi settings, menu and see if you have wifi sleep policy set to 'never' - this is a known battery drain issue
barefootpilot said:
I've had GV0.9 on for a few days and not noticed any real difference in battery life. Before that I was on LeeDroid, before that stock HTC.
First day on GV I got about 39 hours. Pretty light use but that does include some wifi, and GPS with a running app. Pretty much exactly what I was getting before.
Today it's showing about 60% charged after 15 hours with again some browsing, music playback and general use.
What radio and kernel do you have? Also on the about phone - battery use screen where does most of the usage come from?
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Go into wireless and networks, wifi settings, menu and see if you have wifi sleep policy set to 'never' - this is a known battery drain issue
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so if it is set to never it will drain your battery? so i should set it too the 15 minute option to conserve battery?
Night #2: Better, but still bad.
WiFi ist set to disconnect while screen is switched off.
I did not notice this option (Menu/Advanced) before, thanks for this hint.
Since the last unplugging from the charger the device discharged from 95% to 38% right now, in a time span of 14 hours.
Around 30min of this I was checking e-mails or browsing - all via mobile network.
WiFi was switched off the last night, I lost 27% in 8 hours.
Which e-Mail clients are you using?
I used the HTC-Sense mail with the stock ROM and LeeDroid, now I am using K-9 mail. Collecting mails is set to a 30min cycle. With K-9 Push (IMAP) is active, but I don't remind what was set with Push under Sense-Mail.
What are your settings?
Sorry, confused you there. You need to set the wifi sleep policy to 'never'. Anything else will cause battery drain.
Se if you have 100% cpu with quick system info!
Do you sync your Music ????
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Sorry, confused you there. You need to set the wifi sleep policy to 'never'. Anything else will cause battery drain.
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Thanks, setting WiFi sleep policy to "never" saved battery a lot!
I set this option and charged the phone to 100%.
It lost only 41% in 44 hours.
With WiFi on, even at night. As well with mobile data connection, IMAP Push, sending of 3 SMS and one 2-3 Minutes phone call.
No, I don't sync any music.
These WiFi-options are doing the exact opposite of what they are supposed to do?!
Hey guys ive done a similar thread on this a while back but this is a bit different now the issue here is when my phone from 100% all the way to 90 % battery is awesome like so damn good. but when it hits 89% it starts draining quite quick the main drainage is when i put the phone in sleep mode it drains. like i had my phone at 85 % left it for exactly 5 minutes and it dropped to 84%. Ive tried every rom/ kernel out there..nothing has helped or changed. I took it to the warranty they said its a software problem and that didnt fix anything. i have BBS and Kernel wakelock since boot is "wlan_rx_wake" maxing out at 2.6 % the others are just power manager service , etc. Partial wakelock since boot is AudioOut_2 stricking at a 17.8% max. And all the others are NetworkLocationLocator. Currently on Pheonix Rom (Debloated ALOT!!,awesome rom) and Note2core since Pearseus gave me lag issues.
Most battery issues are caused by:
1. antenna transmitting
2. screen time
3. processor load
Troubleshooting should start from the simplest things (Before you replace a motherboard/power-supply, make sure the computer is plugged into the socket, etc). Look at apps that use the network (Google Now, Google Local, Google Maps, Google Mail, Google Calendar, Google Contacts, Google Photos, Picasa, Instant Upload, Exchange ActiveSync, Samsung Backup, Weather Widget, Weather & News and whatever app you decide to install, ie: Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Viber, Skype, WhatsApp, etc) and make sure you disable or at least change the app's setting to update less frequently.
Make sure you use automatic brightness and feel free to lower the bar around 50% when full screen brightness is not really required.
Make sure you don't have some app constantly running in the background (You can see this from the Battery menu, the phone shouldn't be 'Awake' most of the time when the screen is off).
I manage to get ~15-20 hours out of one charge, with 4-6 screen hours and all of the apps I mentioned above (with proper sync settings, of course).
Thats cool but i really wanna know why from 100 to 90 battery is awesome but then it start sucking up
Do I have wake locks problems? =(
no those look fine.
a wake lock issue will show around 90% of uptime as awake.
your looking around 11%.
The reason its ace from 100 to 90 percent is that to hit 100% you have to over volt a lithium based battery. this is why most chargers switch to trickle around 90%.
so it confuses the battery monitor as its in a way (as the battery level indicator uses voltage to indicate charge) more than 100%
the battery is a 3.8v battery, but between 90 and 100 percent it is at around 4.6v and dropping so until it hits below 3.8v (100%) it drops very slowly.
Now that i turned off Google Now and ticked off all 3 settings under GPS, I rarely lose a percentage when the screen is off. [I lose 1% overnight] With that said, I feel the total opposite. I feel like phone gets stronger as the percentage goes down. Try doing what I did and let us know what happens.
But why does mine drain so quick..people get like 20 minutes of on screen time per 1 % i get like 3 minutes if im lucky..
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Now that i turned off Google Now and ticked off all 3 settings under GPS, I rarely lose a percentage when the screen is off. [I lose 1% overnight] With that said, I feel the total opposite. I feel like phone gets stronger as the percentage goes down. Try doing what I did and let us know what happens.
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Lost 10% overnight..,i keep most of my stuff really off but it still drains..
bluetooth off
nfc off
GPS off
My google now is on however i dont use it that much..does that really effect your battery ?
Yeah Aus, try turning Google Now off. I personally think it's extremely overated. It keeps track of your location so it will "try" to use gps even if it's turned off. I think just by the program waking the device"trying" to use the gps is wasting precious battery. Let me know how that goes.
ps - obviously I dont have bt and nfc on at all times because I have no use for them myself. but my wifi and 3 emails are constantly on and syncing 24/7
ps 2- I used to lose 10% overnight just like you but I had Google Now and all 3 GPS settings ticked on.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet:
It's a battery gauge. It doesn't actually show 100% of the time the correct %. It could be not calibrated correctly (shouldn't need to, either). I actually spend a lot of time from 100-80%. Then it drops rather quickly! I hardly ever spend any time below 60%, so I'm sure it's just my battery reporting what it THINKS is the correct battery life %.
Hello everyone,
Would like to raise a matter about the battery life.
I have updated tostock 4.2.2 recently, I have noticed recently that the battery life is being awkward the least. The device can hold up to 4 days ideal but when I start using it the battery percentage dives rapidely it can go down in 20% if the screen is on for 10 minutes. Did anyone experience this and know how to go around it? Im really troubled as it wasnt like this in 4.1.2 it could hold up to 5 hours of screen now it can barely keep with 2-3 hours!
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Hello everyone,
Would like to raise a matter about the battery life.
I have updated tostock 4.2.2 recently, I have noticed recently that the battery life is being awkward the least. The device can hold up to 4 days ideal but when I start using it the battery percentage dives rapidely it can go down in 20% if the screen is on for 10 minutes. Did anyone experience this and know how to go around it? Im really troubled as it wasnt like this in 4.1.2 it could hold up to 5 hours of screen now it can barely keep with 2-3 hours!
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My charge and battery drain thread is here somewhere...
You can look in settings, battery... let us know what is tops on the list.
Also look at settings, data... let us know what is tops as well.
Note: Most of the time the trouble is with google music player, this years update sux with 4.2.2. If you have 4.1.1 it is no problem.
4.2.2 also does not like media files with odd names and characters. I had to rename all my music files to 2 digit numbers, for the media to stop indexing. Folders don't seem to be the issue, just the files. I get 3% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping disconnected from charger, and about 10% per hour under a mix use. Thus able to have 8 hours before charging. I can possibly get a week out of the tablet having sync off, power saver enabled, and Wifi off when disconnected from battery in sleep.
modesty1 said:
Hello everyone,
Would like to raise a matter about the battery life.
I have updated tostock 4.2.2 recently, I have noticed recently that the battery life is being awkward the least. The device can hold up to 4 days ideal but when I start using it the battery percentage dives rapidely it can go down in 20% if the screen is on for 10 minutes. Did anyone experience this and know how to go around it? Im really troubled as it wasnt like this in 4.1.2 it could hold up to 5 hours of screen now it can barely keep with 2-3 hours!
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use power saving mode, and download Advanced task killer. Kill all apps running in the background whenever u are done or not using the tablet. and clear your "Recent applications". that should increase the battery life significantly
Same here on videos
gooberdude said:
My charge and battery drain thread is here somewhere...
You can look in settings, battery... let us know what is tops on the list.
Also look at settings, data... let us know what is tops as well.
Note: Most of the time the trouble is with google music player, this years update sux with 4.2.2. If you have 4.1.1 it is no problem.
4.2.2 also does not like media files with odd names and characters. I had to rename all my music files to 2 digit numbers, for the media to stop indexing. Folders don't seem to be the issue, just the files. I get 3% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping disconnected from charger, and about 10% per hour under a mix use. Thus able to have 8 hours before charging. I can possibly get a week out of the tablet having sync off, power saver enabled, and Wifi off when disconnected from battery in sleep.
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Hi guys,
I will search your thread cause I have this huge battery drain problem too.
I'm on 4.2.2 for long now but for 1 or 2 months now, my battery drains very rapidly when I'm watching movies or series ... I can use the samsung player or MX player it's just the same ...
When I'm 100%, i loose more than 10 % in 15 minutes of watching ... in fact my train travel in the morning is 30 minutes, and If i'm watching a movie, during the trip I loose nearly 30 % !!!
The thing is when I'm playing games or do something else, there is no such drain ... and as you I get only approx 3% or 4% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping ...
This drives me crazy ...
At 56% at 3:00 pm today (I'm french), since a discharge at 6:00 am, my batteries info from parameters are :
Screen : 39 %
Network / Radio function : 33% (what is this ?)
MX player : 16 %
Sleep mode : 3 %
And the rest is under 2 or 3 % ...
For example, I watch a movie for only 30minutes today and played Zombie Tsunami for approx 20 minutes wich only drains 2% on the battery monitor ...
golgoth57 said:
Hi guys,
I will search your thread cause I have this huge battery drain problem too.
I'm on 4.2.2 for long now but for 1 or 2 months now, my battery drains very rapidly when I'm watching movies or series ... I can use the samsung player or MX player it's just the same ...
When I'm 100%, i loose more than 10 % in 15 minutes of watching ... in fact my train travel in the morning is 30 minutes, and If i'm watching a movie, during the trip I loose nearly 30 % !!!
The thing is when I'm playing games or do something else, there is no such drain ... and as you I get only approx 3% or 4% per 12 hours discharge with wifi on while sleeping ...
This drives me crazy ...
At 56% at 3:00 pm today (I'm french), since a discharge at 6:00 am, my batteries info from parameters are :
Screen : 39 %
Network / Radio function : 33% (what is this ?)
MX player : 16 %
Sleep mode : 3 %
And the rest is under 2 or 3 % ...
For example, I watch a movie for only 30minutes today and played Zombie Tsunami for approx 20 minutes wich only drains 2% on the battery monitor ...
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I wonder if your using data connection instead of Wifi...Data would draw more power when used, that is probably why you see Network/Radio about as high as screen. I have MX player pro as well so it is not an issue with MX player.
When I watch Netflix I get about 12% an hour drain with Miracast activated. As for playing video files on SD, it can be a lot lower to a lot higher depending on size and bit rate. Remember media playback has a number of things going on, speaker / earphones, video quality, and screen brightness will draw power at higher levels. I suggest doing a test with BBC iplayer for streaming when at home since your in France. Watch about 30 minutes with power saver enabled. You should get about 5% drain at most for the 30 minute test. If you are doing that, I would think the Data connection would be your primary issue with power drain. A way you can boost battery while watching video when traveling, you can purchase an external rechargeable battery. Both Data and GPS will suck the power right out of your device much faster than WIFI and there are a few battery calibration apps that use GPS to quick discharge for faster calibration.
Hope this helps in understanding.
I've got a similar issue.
I've seen a change recently, because the battery lasts much shorter now than only a few weeks ago. I suspect it could have to do with having run the battery too low (below 20%) a couple of times, specially with my kid playing games or watching Youtube on it. 49% of consumption is the screen, 27% is Android OS, Skype 11%. I haven't installed any new apps in that tim, although I updated Skype to a well functioning version (4.6.0.42007), but with it consuming 11% of total energy, I doubt that being the culprit. I haven't change the energy conservation setting (it's turned off), so it's not that either. On the other hand I turned on Playstore apps updating recently, and that might have something to do with it.
Today the Note even went dead, I didn't notice any battery alert. Is there a way to turn a SOUND on for this. Can't seem to find it. However, the Samsung UI keeps making little ringing noises with every received mail, right up to the device shutting off (sound on message alert is turned off). Any way to turn that off?
Gadgety said:
I've got a similar issue.
I've seen a change recently, because the battery lasts much shorter now than only a few weeks ago. I suspect it could have to do with having run the battery too low (below 20%) a couple of times, specially with my kid playing games or watching Youtube on it. 49% of consumption is the screen, 27% is Android OS, Skype 11%. I haven't installed any new apps in that tim, although I updated Skype to a well functioning version (4.6.0.42007), but with it consuming 11% of total energy, I doubt that being the culprit. I haven't change the energy conservation setting (it's turned off), so it's not that either. On the other hand I turned on Playstore apps updating recently, and that might have something to do with it.
Today the Note even went dead, I didn't notice any battery alert. Is there a way to turn a SOUND on for this. Can't seem to find it. However, the Samsung UI keeps making little ringing noises with every received mail, right up to the device shutting off (sound on message alert is turned off). Any way to turn that off?
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Ah, wow! I always have my screen much higher than any app with battery consumption. I use Dolphin browser for Youtube video while browsing with flash enabled and flash.apk installed as well. I prefer the youtube app for links to youtube from emails.
As for sound, it depends on the app that sends notifications. I just block the device most of the time. Though google has options to use default notifications sometimes it can get confused when you set your devices notifications to silent. Then you must change googles notification to silent as well. I think you do that in language and input in one of the google settings for TTS or Voice. It is really a pain but then again that is why I just block and leave things be. Block is in the Notification panel. you can open the complete switch panel by choosing the squares in the upper right.
When your device hit 100%, unplug your device, turn it off and put it into the power socket. Does it say the charge is 100% or does it take another half an hour before it say 100%?
If that's the case you have a battery calibration problem. The software thinks it's fully charged when the battery is only half charged.
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When your device hit 100%, unplug your device, turn it off and put it into the power socket. Does it say the charge is 100% or does it take another half an hour before it say 100%?
If that's the case you have a battery calibration problem. The software thinks it's fully charged when the battery is only half charged.
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I am sorry to say this... but I have had my own issues with power, and that is why I made a thread about such issues.
What you describe is almost what all OEM Note 8.0 devices do. It will show charging again once you have reconnected power after charging.
It has nothing to do with calibration needed to the battery. I have done this many times with Stock and Civato's ROM. If you do not want the issue with Touchwiz DVFS, download an app to disable it. Then you will not see that sort of issue any more. I do not recommend using tools of any sort to circumvent normal operation, but many have disabled DVFS without ill effects so they have a more accurate view of charge capacity.
Nobody here, including me can tell you what is going on directly with your battery without seeing critical information. If anything post the top battery eaters before you charge. This way we can see what is happening. For the most part media seems to be the issue. As google music player will run in background as Media Server no matter how many times you reboot it will try to re index media files over and over. I froze my Google Music player so the issue is non-existent
Another issue is USB charging cables. Samsung cables are not that good. I moved on to Sony / Nokia cables as they are superior cables and a wee longer to boot.
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Ah, wow! I always have my screen much higher than any app with battery consumption. I use Dolphin browser for Youtube video while browsing with flash enabled and flash.apk installed as well. I prefer the youtube app for links to youtube from emails.
As for sound, it depends on the app that sends notifications. I just block the device most of the time. Though google has options to use default notifications sometimes it can get confused when you set your devices notifications to silent. Then you must change googles notification to silent as well. I think you do that in language and input in one of the google settings for TTS or Voice. It is really a pain but then again that is why I just block and leave things be. Block is in the Notification panel. you can open the complete switch panel by choosing the squares in the upper right.
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Thank you for the reply. Regarding sound, I thought it was Samsung's @mail inbox app, but it was Microsoft's Exchange. So that is now on silent. Didn't have any effect (!). Under Settings --> Personal --> Google, sound is also set to silent (!!).
Under Language I found Language, Keyboard, Speech and Mouse pointer, and sound for key press could be disabled (it already was).
The Unit's system sounds for ringing and messages have been on silent the whole time (!!!). Still not getting rid of it.
The low energy alert, I don't know whether that is Google or Samsung's Touchwiz. I have sound (I would like to get an auditory warning)? If so, where would that be? It seems I've been through all the settings, but since I haven't been able to turn off the sound alert for incoming mail, or turn off the auditory alarm for low energy, there probably are other settings I've missed.
Come to think of it, this subject would probably would go better under a different thread.
Thank you for your assistance.
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k
I am sorry to say this... but I have had my own issues with power, and that is why I made a thread about such issues.
What you describe is almost what all OEM Note 8.0 devices do. It will show charging again once you have reconnected power after charging.
It has nothing to do with calibration needed to the battery. I have done this many times with Stock and Civato's ROM. If you do not want the issue with Touchwiz DVFS, download an app to disable it. Then you will not see that sort of issue any more. I do not recommend using tools of any sort to circumvent normal operation, but many have disabled DVFS without ill effects so they have a more accurate view of charge capacity.
Nobody here, including me can tell you what is going on directly with your battery without seeing critical information. If anything post the top battery eaters before you charge. This way we can see what is happening. For the most part media seems to be the issue. As google music player will run in background as Media Server no matter how many times you reboot it will try to re index media files over and over. I froze my Google Music player so the issue is non-existent
Another issue is USB charging cables. Samsung cables are not that good. I moved on to Sony / Nokia cables as they are superior cables and a wee longer to boot.
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Which app can disable the Samsung dvfs?
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Which app can disable the Samsung dvfs?
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Just search on google play for DVFS... you will need to be rooted.... I like saferoot.zip, and to install xposed framework. Most gamers prefer to disable, but it does wonders for true battery reading and charging.