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Trying to get an answer to this question, but nobody seems to know the answer so far.
I'll buy the Oribit if it can do the following:
a) be used whilst walking in e.g. central London to help me find my way to various full postcode locations/streets (i.e. held in hand, easy to read display)
b) ideally, also be able to be kept hidden in inside pocket, with verbal instructions coming via bluetooth headset.
I noticed in one forum that b) was ruled a problem, as apparently e.g. WM5 does not allow audio such as TomTom instructions to be sent to a bluetooth headset??
I think, that Bluetooth is not the problem... I think, it will work.
But: GPS with device in your Pocket won't work.
Cable-Headset works fine, Bluetooth Headset not (at least mine).
Running TomTom in your jacket or rucksack is no problem.
But using TomTom for walking is not very good - even when you switch it to the "Walking mode". If you walk slow, it doesn't really know what dircetion you are walking and the map is rotating very often.
hi
i Used TT in london last year device in pocket worked a treat don't know about stability of map as it was in my pocket most of the time and used a wired headset. just had to view map ocassionally to get an idea of the general direction i was heading.
Thanks people,
Varied answers! - maybe due to different models?
"even when you switch it to the "Walking mode". - oh well, good to hear it actually has a 'walking mode'
"bluetooth" - I believe someone mentioned some issue whereby (forgive me for vagueness) WM generated sounds could not be sent via Bluetooth (but obviously phone or music audio could). Yes, I was confused as well...
Yes - it has a walking mode. But that mode is for the way how TomTom calculates the route - e.g. pedestrian areas, oneway streets.
Another thing is - in large cities the device will find less satellites due to high houses around you. That's another point why it sometimes does't know what direction you are walking. That was my experience in Boston last year.
I use memory map 5 with the Orbit and I think that's exactly what you want. I have the full london A-Z and using the GPS can pin point my position. I also have ordinance survey maps for kent and sussex which are great for walks.
When you connect the orbit back to your PC, memory map will download your route to the PC and display it within the 'main' memory map software.
GPS Walking
I've bougth HTC Artemis recently and used it in the labirinth of Venice Italy. I thought I couldn't use it but I managed to use it.
Surprisingly it could find the position. I mean surprisingly if you know that the streets in Venice are 3 meters large, at best, and the surroundings houses never lower then 12-15 meters.
Yes, it's a problem for TomTom to find the direction where you're going but, if you ask to see the graphical demo of the calculated route, you can easily go where you want. You're looking at a freezed map showing the next connection, turnout or whatever. As soon as you've reached it you can press the skip of next button to see next istruction. More on this, while you look at the graphical demo of the route, you get the vocal messages.
Bye
thanks, all interesting especially memory map 5 by the sound of it!
Memory Map is great for walking but it will not give you spoken commands as to where you need to go, it is a topographical map (it looks the same as the paper map you would purchase from an outdoors/ camping style shop) but its in electronic format displayed on the PDA screen with current position displayed. You can set waypoints to offer a vector, distance and time to go to reach the destination - great out on the fells but limited in cities to be honest.
If you want spoken instructions TomTom or Route 66 work great on the Artemis, both can display the map in 2D mode which is easier to interpret when walking - Mike
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
louiscar said:
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
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Try a search on the Hermes forum. I found lots of stuff.
I found THIS ONE . But there were MANY others. Some users reported success with some ROMs.
Don't fret, it works fine on mine... Are you running a WM6 image - you may wish to upgrade to wm6 if you're not. (or downgrade to TT5.....)
Treat the issue as 2 separate problems, bluetooth related loss of GPS unit, and the stability of the TT6 software.
There are any number of other applications that will let you connect and read signals from the GPS unit, try these to see if you have a faulty gps unit or if its TT playing up.
Once you're happy with this look at the TT issue.....
I have 2 Varios II and I can admit that I had some issues with TT6 with WM5. TT liked to freeze when I was typing in the address or browsing through menus. When I changed to WM5 AKU3.2 it was better, but still not perfect. Eventually, it was WM6 that helped me. Now TT6 is running without any issues (of course it can freeze from time to time when I have too many programmes running in the background). Just try any of new WM6 and everything should be fine.
I had TT5.21 which people said run fine which didnt on wm6 but TT6.1 works fine
Long time since i've been on here but while i was browsing about, i saw this problem. All i can suggest is using the inbuilt GPS and see how that works? I have TT6 as well and i have used it perfectly well on an XDA Mini, XDA Orbit, SPV M700, HTC Touch, HTC TyTn II... seems a bit odd that you're having these problems. Have you since cured the fault or is it still being a bit of a ****bag?!
While i'm here... anyone got the latest maps at all for TT6? Shout me on [email protected] if you have any info on TT6 or need any PDA / Pocket PC help.
Griz
ibanyard said:
Don't fret, it works fine on mine... Are you running a WM6 image - you may wish to upgrade to wm6 if you're not. (or downgrade to TT5.....)
Treat the issue as 2 separate problems, bluetooth related loss of GPS unit, and the stability of the TT6 software.
There are any number of other applications that will let you connect and read signals from the GPS unit, try these to see if you have a faulty gps unit or if its TT playing up.
Once you're happy with this look at the TT issue.....
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Yeah, I had established that the gps was working fine, I've been happily using it on my ipaq 2210 for ages. Then with the Hermes testing with gpsgate and some other stuff showed no problems.
The problem I had was that my TT6 was a 2GB SD card version and I didn't have micro SD big enough to test it. I had about 1hour to play with my friend's one and that's when I discovered the two problems.
He lent me the card to play with this evening and I've made a little progress now. I've sorted the flakey GPS operation, primarily by changing the com port, deleting the pairing and pairing again. So far that's not dropped out since.
Tomtom runs but freezes, this appears to be a confirmed problem which I hope that WM6 will solve as (mean-machine) suggests.
I feel a lot happier that the damn thing runs at least. The freezing appears to be related to cpu usage as I find that that zooming right out on a map is a good way to cause this to happen. The menu screens can be a problem too and the rest appear intermittent. As others have stated in other threads, hitting the red button and then switching back to TT will free it up.
I guess the next thing is to study the Wiki and try an make sense of the order things need to be done to put WM6 in, which Rom if any, which version of WM6. ... Information overload, so I think I need to take it slow and ingest the data .
Thanks for all the replys guys, it amazes me how much support HTC has and how many of you are passionate about them. Up till a few months ago I had never heard of HTC, now I doubt I'd consider anything else.
TomTom6
louiscar said:
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
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I have been using TomTom 6 on my Imate Jasjam (TyTn) both with WM5 and many versions of WM6. It works flawlessly never missing a beat. What com port are you using? Have you turned off secure connection?
@louiscar: a good place to start with upgrading info (to avoid the overload) is THIS SITE . Great guides that make it simple.
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I have been using TomTom 6 on my Imate Jasjam (TyTn) both with WM5 and many versions of WM6. It works flawlessly never missing a beat. What com port are you using? Have you turned off secure connection?
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Hi rbin,
I've currently got the GPS panel set to 'program port = com2', 'hardware port = com0' and my bluetooth gps is set to 'outgoing = com0'
Currently this works well so the GPS issue has been resolved.
Tomtom on the other hand freezes pretty much as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299892&highlight=tomtom+freezes
and in a number of other threads.
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@louiscar: a good place to start with upgrading info (to avoid the overload) is THIS SITE . Great guides that make it simple.
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Great link, thanks Todd. Reading glasses are on already.
TT6 w/Pharos and Holux recievers work great
I've an AT&T Tytn upgraded to WM6 and have no troubles with my Holux or Pharos receivers and TT6.
Everything works great EXCEPT issues with data connections such as TT Buddies or traffic. This isn't unique to the PDA version of the software though, as I also have a standalone TomTom GO 910 paired with the phone and it works almost okay as a bluetooth speaker phone, but constantly has trouble getting a good data connection.
My $0.02
louiscar said:
Having just bought a Tytn I found that my tomtom 6 didn't work. I seemed to have two issues. 1) It hung up frequently and 2) It kept losing my external bluetooth GPS receiver.
I thought I'd go to Tomtom's page to see if there was a fix given that HTC mention this saying that Tomtom have updated version 6 for the device.
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
To my horror I I found this page which suggests that the device is not supported, never has been and never will be. The reason according to Tomtom is due to an agreement with HTC,
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/htctytn/support/faq.html?id=539&cat=applications
I am trying to catch up on this device so am swamped by data at the moment but this is a real blow to me as one of the main priorities is to run Tomtom 6. When I bought the device I assumed that it was just a pocket pc with a phone in it. Seemingly I am wrong as there appears to be differences with the hardware or Tomtom checks the device it's running on and presumably refuses to work properly.
Can anyone enlighten me as to how ( if at all to get around this issue). Currently my device still has mobile 5 but I am ploughing through the plethora of information on this site trying to figure out exactly what I should and shouldn't do. I've a lot of catching up to do..
Any advice / suggestions would be most welcome, it seems too strange a concept to be locked out of running a pc app just because of the hardware it's running on.
EDIT: Apologies moderator this probably shouldn't be posted in the wm6 thread even though I am intending to move over and would like to use tomtom on that. Please move it if necessary.
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I have used TT6 on my MDA VArio II (TyTn) for almost a year...no problem. Now I have the TyTn II
Same here.. been using Tom tom 6 on my Tytn since the day i installed wm6, no problems here, works like a charm!
HEAT???
I have been using TT6 on my Imate JASJAM running the DOPOD WM6 ROM without much trouble (no hanging etc). The only problem I am experiencing is huge power drain and the unit being physically hot when running TT. Maybe this power drain and potential overheating can cause some units to hang and playup, or potentially any unit given the right environment!
Anyone else finding their units getting a bit hot?
I've been using TT6 on my Tytn (MDA Vario II) almost one year now. No problems. Started using TT6 while running WM5, upgraded to WM6 (schaps rom), reinstalled TT6 and it just continued as before. No problems, no hangups no freezing. I've been using all kinds of different charts with TT6, so I don't think the problem is with TT.
louiscar said:
Hi rbin,
I've currently got the GPS panel set to 'program port = com2', 'hardware port = com0' and my bluetooth gps is set to 'outgoing = com0'
Currently this works well so the GPS issue has been resolved.
Tomtom on the other hand freezes pretty much as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299892&highlight=tomtom+freezes
and in a number of other threads.
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Going to try your settings too, cause on all WM6 roms I tried I keep losing my GPS BT connection. I'm not damn sure it got nothing to do with TT6. But when I delete my gps and reconnect it while TT6 is up and running, TT will find the gps straight away. So imho it's the BT connection that fails and not TT.
It's really annoying though.
Cheers, M
I have been running TomTom Navigator 6 on my JASJAM for some time. The hanging problem described is probably caused by having all the Points Of Interest (POI) active.
Go into the TomTom settings menu and de-activate ALL the POIs. Try it, then only turn on the ones you actually require.
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Going to try your settings too, cause on all WM6 roms I tried I keep losing my GPS BT connection. I'm not damn sure it got nothing to do with TT6. But when I delete my gps and reconnect it while TT6 is up and running, TT will find the gps straight away. So imho it's the BT connection that fails and not TT.
It's really annoying though.
Cheers, M
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Doesn't work either. Seems that after a soft-reset the BT connection with my GPS is f*d. Very strange because the BT headset doesn't suffer any of this. Maybe time to buy a new GPS, but with WM5 I never experienced this behaviour.
I found that with tt6 you need to have the WM6 internal gps settings set to "None" for both program and hardware port. Then make sure the box is checked in the last tab so it autodetects the com ports. Once all this is set and you goto add a bluetooth gps device in tt6 it gives you the option to use com port 0. select this port and it should detect your gps unit with no probs. Been running tt6 on my 8525 with tnt's latest cooked rom and things couldn't be running smoother.
Edit: On another note. I used to use Telenav with my 8525 with the original at&t rom. I had the worst luck with that application. I would constantly lose my gps connect and I almost always had to do a soft-reset to get it working again. It is quite possible that Telenav was not the issue and that the particular rom I was using had bluetooth connection issues that were resolved when I switched to a cooked rom such as the tnt one. So for those using tt6 with BT connection problems you may want to try a different rom and see how your luck goes.
Ok forgive me because I am totally new to this whole thing. I have a G3 T-mobile MDA. I really want to use it as a simple GPS. Is there any way to unlock the internal GPS chip and let GPS software out there use that to get the readings? or do you HAVE to buy a Bluetooth GPS. also another thought can you plug in like one of these Chepo Delorme or Microsoft USB GPS devices to the USB port? doubt it but just thought I would ask.
GPS Chip on a Wizard? I don't know about you, but i never heard of Wizard having one.
So you'd need a bluettoth GPS instead. As for USB ones, you won't be able to connect them to the wizard, since its USB port lacks host functionality - you can connect the wizard to a host device, but you can't connect any slave device (like GPS, pendrive, printer, etc) to the wizard.
Hmm I don't know
I thought that the phone had a basic GPS chip in it. you know like that they can track you with like on TV or really I thought that it was the same technology Sprint and Verizon customers can use for directions etc but T-mobile didn't want you to use?
What you talk about is not GPS. Verizon and Sprint probably calculate your phone using data about strength of signal your phone receives from nearby GSM transmitters and positions of these transmitters.
You can get such positioning data in google maps (windows mobile version, not java midlet). But keep in ming that positioning error when using this method can be as large as 1-2km (especially in suburban/country terrain). The more cell transmitters are in your area, the more accurate the tracking.
There probably is some other software that can do this, but nothing crosses my mind right now.
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Here's some info on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_localization
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I have been using memory map with no problems on an Ipaq, MDA vario, and HTC touch dual.
However, now ive upgraded to a touch pro 2, it seems to be giving problems.
Firstly, it usually wont open the maps, even though ive cut them down to about 56MB, is this still too large for wm6.1?
Secondly, what happens when I leave memory map running but turn the device off? Will it keep tracking like my touch dual did, or will it turn the gps off?
I'm having massive problems with MM on my TP2 as well. On my iPAQ HW6915, I could load all of the A-Z of London, no proboems; likewise, I could load large swathes of Regions 1, 2, and 3, in chunks, no problem. On the TP2, I can't even get a quarter of the size of those map chunks to load - I run out of space in RAM almost immediately. Not at ALL amused ISTR seeing somewhere that this is due to the RAM hogging of the TouchFLO interface - can anyone confirm this?
I have found memory map to be a good edition to my TP2. I have been on walks in the North Downs and around Swanage and have found it to very useful and accurate.
The maps can be a little tempremental but I find if I turn off and on again this seems to cure any problem. The largest map I have on my TP2 is 50.9mb.
maps
i am running mm on my touch hd with no problems try mm web site
I have had a reply from memory map explaining that wm6.1 can only handle data in smaller chunks, so I need to split the maps up into smaller sections.
However, I still dont know what happens when I turn the device off. Will it switch the GPS off or will it still keep tracking my position?
I have been using memory map on the TP2. I too had to chop my maps smaller than when using the Kaiser, but the bigger screen is likely to eat more RAM. For info, my maps open up to about 120M unless I have other apps open at the same time. I have re-chopped the maps with maximum 97M and don't have problems with multi-tasking, but then again, I don't have touch-flo enabled - nor do I use SPB Mobile Shell anymore.
Can't answer the question about tracking in suspend mode as I always put the handset in my pocket when it's suspended, so it loses the signal.
Is mine a different problem then because my maps wont open even though the file size is only 56.8MB?
HTC TouchFlo3d can cause problems with memory map as well, restricting the map file size further. Theres a few other threads on this (try in the HTC Touch HD forum).
I've found if i do a reset before running Memory Map i have more success. Disabling the 'Album' tab also helps.
i've just reloaded mine with smaller maps though.
Need to find a WM5 ROM to run on my old MDA Compact III (Htc artemis) so i can run it properly!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448402&page=4
hi all
I have the area 2 1:50,000 running fine
but..............
cant seem to pick up any sattelites.
I am using the following settings
manufacturer NMEA
model (greyed out) NMEA 0183, RMC
Port GPS0
Baud 4800
is this correct
many thanks
I'm using:
Magellan
Port COM4 (as set in External GPS settings)
Baud 4800
put it to com 4 and it works a treat
thanks
bought wave II s8530 a month ago and when wifi is ON the signal strength is 40-70% even i am in front of wireless router, and if i go in another room the signal is loosing or barely gets 10%. i had nokia e72 before and in front of wireless router i got 100%, and in another room like 50-80% of the signal, so its not the wireless router.
if its for help i flashed team elite 3.0 for this device, but the problem persist before i flash.
i spotted today if the bottom of the wave is showing to the router i get 95% wifi signal, if i change that position i get 40-60%(every refreshing is different value). the results are from BadaSI.
other information, GSM, GPS and BT are with no problems-no weak signal.
sw ver: s8530xxlb1 and csc ver: s8530xenlb1
please someone advice me how to solve this problem. tnx
hello
I am afraid, we have to live with this problem. almost every wave phone has this problem.
So far there is no solution to it.
if anyone knows it please let us know.
Maybe difference between bada 1.x and bada 2...
Because I have same problem...
Will investigate...
Best Regards
I know that modder psycoy, in his custom (here) made something; this is changelog:
Exclusive Patch WiFi/Data booster
But I don't know what he do!
watch to /SystemFS/Driver/ directory, here you can find hardware settings into .txt files for wlan, camera, bluetooth, speaker.. etc
i am noob with this so please tell us what to do.
i found that folder with stune, and i see these files.
guari said:
watch to /SystemFS/Driver/ directory, here you can find hardware settings into .txt files for wlan, camera, bluetooth, speaker.. etc
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Thanks, but I compared them with WinMerge and they are the same
mm... when I search for hardware settings I found them only here...
alternatively it could be replaced the wifi related .so driver file with one more performing of another firmware version (if exists)..
anyway, in case of bad wifi signal, be sure that your are assigning the correct ip address to your wave (not one assigned to other network components..) and that your network is on a low used channel..
the percentage value reported by bada API could be wrong like eg. the battery percentage (as the one read by badaSI), with my S8500 I can connect to my router (G protocol, not even N) up to 10-12 meters of distance through multiple rooms.
Other solution to improve connection speed/stability can be by tweaking the TCP/IP parameters by forcing the protocol to be more agressive but I don't know how doing this on bada..
this is the wifi drivers files
bada 1.2 and bada 2.0
Thanks guary! However there aren't .so files in psycoy lupin III CFW (I don't find them). It's so strange