Videos contain logo - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

I've just noticed that all the video clips I've taken with my TP2 have a prominent 'Main Concept' logo in the top right corner. Why? Any way to get rid of this unnecessary intrusion please?
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

On further investigation this seems to be added by the MP4 codec when I play the clip after transfer to my PC.
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Here's a very short example (300 KB):
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/Images/Example.mp4
When I play this on my PC I get a variety of results:
BSPlayer, Irfanview, MPC seem to use ffdshow (because I see its icon in my tray) and display the logo 'Main Concept' top right.
Power DVD plays no sound (a message says it needs upgrading to use AAC), and the logo 'DivX' appears bottom right.
VLC and KMPlayer are the only ones that don't display a logo.
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

well, using mpc home cinema 64bit and using the mpc video decoder I get no image be it divx of main concept when using the sample video you posted. (Using Win7 RC btw, though that shouldn't influence anything)

That's very odd. I just downloaded it to make sure, and it plays as described here.
What does GSpot say about it? Here's an extract of what I get:
Base Type : Undetermined MP4 (.MP4) file
Number of Audio Streams: 1
Video Codec Type: mp4v
Video Codec Name: MPEG-4 Video
Video Codec Status: Codec Status Undetermined
Frame Width (pixels): 640
Frame Height (pixels): 480
Video Bitrate (kbps): 853
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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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Mp4ForHD v2.9f (Mp4 Video Converter for Hand-held Devices)

Two weeks ago I made a little application to convert any input video to MP4 compatible with our HD Touch HD.
At the beginning it was only for spanish people. It has been grown and now it's a big aplication and I want to share it with english spoken people.
Version 2.9f:
- Now you can choose audio track in VOB files and Dual audio AVI files.
- Two new resolutions added: IPad and IPhone 4G
- A few bugs solved in SmPlayer previews
Version 2.9e:
- Now supports drag&drop. You can drop files from Explorer.
Version 2.9d:
- Four new resolutions added: 1080i: 1920x1080 | 720p: 1280x720 | Satio: 640x360 | ZuneHd: 480x272
Version 2.9c:
- Added a new video size 376x240 (IPod Nano 5G)
- Added a new profile: IPod_Nano
- Added Russian language
Version 2.9b:
- A new codec added "XVID avi". With this, you can now convert to avi files (not only mp4 files)
- Now video quality 'very high' is two times Normal Quality (before 1.5 times). It makes max quality is now 1600 kbps (before 999 kbps)
- Support for MOD video files (JVC cams)
- Added a new video size 768x576 (JVC cams)
- Added two new profiles: HD2 (for HTC HD2) and JVC (for JVC cams)
Version 2.9:
- Now uses SmPlayer (a graphic interface of MPlayer) as Standard Player to Play and preview videos.
- Modifies registry for assign Mp4ForHd as optional player for all supported video file extensions (added to 'open with' option in explorer).
Version 2.8c:
- Now supports 3gp files
- A new output video size, for standard mobiles: 176x144
- A new profile for that output resolution: Samsung
Version 2.8b:
- Now you can play any video with this program. In explorer, you must click right button of the mouse, and choose 'open with - Choose program.. - Mp4ForHD.exe'. Any video plays with MPlayer, no codecs required.
- Swedish language added
Version 2.8:
- Now in PSP conversions, if you choose X264 2pass, it really makes in two passes.
- Removed in options 'ProgressBar Method', because now it's unnecesary.
Version 2.7d:
- You can split a MP4 video file into another without reencoding. To use it, open a MP4 file and choose start and end positions. Then the 'Join Mp4' button changes to 'Split Mp4'.
Version 2.7c:
- Support for Turkish characters in subtitles (charsets cp1254 and ISO-8859-9)
Version 2.7b:
- Support for Traditional Chinese subtitles (CP950)
Version 2.7:
- Added priority support for encoding process (Idle, Normal, High and RealTime)
- Includes some example profiles (HD, HD TV Series, Diamond, IPhone, Omnia, QVGA and PSP)
- Added support for Chinesse subtitles
- Deutsch language actualiced
Version 2.6c:
- Now shows correctly the final resolution and the final video bitrate in the pending video queue. It didn't work since 2.6 version.
- A few new charsets for subtitles added.
Version 2.6b:
- 3 news charset for subtitles (cp1250,cp1251 and latin2). Cp1250 solves problem with letters š,č,ć,ž,đ.
- Solved bug that window was always on top.
Version 2.6:
- You can change drive vhere temp dir is. As default it uses unit where program is installed.
- A few remaining messages in Spanish have been changed.
- Some lng files have been renamed to avoid problem with installer in Vista (Español->Spanish, Català->Catala, Français->French)
Version 2.5c:
- Two new sizes in srt subtitles (6.5 and 7)
- Another minor bugs.
Version 2.5b:
- In Buttons without text (select,save,load,etc), is showed a Hint. Other esthetic changes.
- Danish language added
Version 2.5:
- You can select an external subtitle (srt), also in dvd, vobs and mkvs.
- Profile settings (max.resolution, codec, etc) in a new form, not in Options form.
- Autosave current pendent video queue when program exit. Autoload the next time that program is executed.
- You can save or load pendent video queue.
- If you cancel a conversion, video returns to pendent queue.
Version 2.4b:
- "Loss Quality when an importart change of frame" bug solved in X264 2 pass.
- Now subtitles in mkv videos runs correctly.
- In the edit form, the program shows the calculated videofile size in MB.
- Now in the edit form, you can change codec and max.resolution.
Version 2.4:
- Now you can encode video with ffmpeg.exe as well as mencoder.exe. It makes compatible videos with PDA and PSP. Some videos that didn't convert with mencoder, now can be encoded with ffmpeg. Ffmpeg doesn't support srt subtitles, dvd support, neither delay audio.
- You can select number of processors/threads. It's useful in Lavc, Lavc+, and ffmpeg (not auto-thread support). It can increase conversion speed in multi-core computers.
- Subtitle languages are now independent of audio languages. It's useful in Dvd and mkv, with different audio languages and subtitle languages.
Version 2.3c:
- Support for cyrillic srt subtitles
- Added Galego language
Version 2.3b:
- Now you can select the charset of the srt subtitles (ISO-8859-1 occidental, ISO-8859-2 Central Europe, and ISO-8859-7 Greek). It has been solved problem with ¿?¡! characters, with greek alphabet, and perhaps with central europe languages.
- You can select size of srt subtitles.
Version 2.3:
- A new codec named Lavc+, with more quality than Lavc, but a 30% more conversion time.
- Now in options form you can set output resolution ratio (not only Full or Crop to Device)
- You can make your own video settings profiles. Examples: HD Quality, HD TV Series, PSP, Diamond crop to Device, Diamond 16/9, etc.
- Now you can multiselect files in pending videos queue. After that, you can delete, move, or apply a profile to all the selected videos.
- A new button added, to deselect all files in pending videos queue.
- In the pending videos queue, now shows codec, bitrate, and output resolution.
- The buttons in main form, are enabled or disabled according to actual situation.
- A new button added in the Edit Page, to enable or disable video preview.
- Dutch language added.
Version 2.2b:
- Now you can select Audio Bitrate (160 kbps,128 kbps,96 kbps,64 kbps and 32 kbps)
- If Output File exists, it isn't replaced. Now the program gives it a secuential number (For example Video01.mp4)
- If conversion process is aborted, then Output File is deleted.
- French Language added.
Version 2.2:
- The program has been renamed to Mp4ForHD (Mp4 for Hand-held Devices). It's because at the beginning, it was thought for Htc HD, but now supports a lot of devices.
- 3 differents coding ways: X264 2 pass (as version 2.1), X264 1 pass (only 1 pass. Sligthly less quality, but less time to encode), and LAVC (a codec that i tested for PSP, but surprisely is supported by the Htc HD. It's ultrafast, only spends 1/4 time of X264 2 pass, although loses quality. It's ideal for TV series)
- Full support for the PSP (X264 and LAVC codecs). It creates a jpg with a miniature of an instant of the film.
- I think I have solved the problem with 'REAL' method of ProgressBar calc.
- Final resolution (when changing aspect and crop) is better calculated.
Version 2.1b:
- Now, you can select three different ProgressBar methods: Calculated (as versions 1.8..2.0), Real-Slower (15% slow conversion), and Real-Problematic (as version 2.1 that to some people doesn't run)
- Solved '000000001.jpg not found' error.
- Option 'trellis' of MEncoder has been deleted
Version 2.1:
- You can choose output crop ratio (1.33,1.44,1.55,...,2.66) as well as Full and Crop to Device (this two already present in 2.0 version)
- Added new output resolutions (Iphone,PSP,720x432,640x384,560x336 and 480x288)
- Two new bitrates profiles: Very high (normal*1.5) and Very low (normal*0.5)
- Now progress bar is exactly calculated (checks constantly MEncoder's output log).
- Since 2.0b version, cropdetect (black flags detect) is working in all computers.
- You can see all the commands send to MEncoder and MP4Box in a log box.
- Now if no DVD audio language detected, the program try to force the language assigned in options.
- DVD subtitles are now more readable, but with the same size (MEncoder can't make it larger)
- Deutch Language added.
Version 2.0:
- You can select three diferent bitrate qualities: high (normal*1.25), normal and low (normal*0.75)
- You can select 4 maximum output resolutions: 800x480, 640x480, 400x240 and 320x240
- Fixed the bug 'Division by zero'.
- Increased time to know cropdetect (perhaps it runs well to somebody, who befores not)
- A better adjust of step 1 expected time
- Italian language added
Version 1.9:
- Can ignore up and down black flags, usseful for DVDs and VOBs, and another video files.
- In DVDs and VOBs, asumes 16:9 aspect ratio
- M4V file support
- You can input an audio-delay when video and audio are slightly asynchronized
- Video is automatic scaled when width is greather than 800 (before only when video heigth was greather than 480)
Version 1.8:
- Support for avi, mp4, wmv, mkv, mpg, m2v, mov, vob, flv. Dvd directly rip included.
- Adjust bitrate to resolution output video (from 250 to 800)
- Lets crop to our HD ratio aspect (5/3), and change the input video aspect ratio
- You can add, change order, or delete videos of the video pending queue in any time.
- Supports srt subtítles (if a srt file with same name is present)
- If heigth is greater than 480, it scales video
- Shows complete information of the video to convert (resolution, framerate, duration, etc)
- If input video includes multilanguage (Dvd, vob, mkv), you can select audio language, and subtitles language.
- You can select for each video the start and end position, and preview the video.
- You can join Mp4 of same resolution (if a video is splited in two videos, you can convert each one, and after join them)
- You can select if computer hibernate/suspends or shoot down after converting process.
- If application is minimized you see actual progress.
- Multilanguage interface support (actually English, Spanish and Catalan)
If you want to traslate interface to your language, copy the english.lng file to the name desired, and then edit with notepad, changing each input for the traslated one. Please send me this file if you want it will be present in the next version.
The link to the 2.9 version setup file is here:
http://www.easy-share.com/1907885133/Mp4ForHD_v2.9_Setup.exe
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RKYOXYRC
Here is the update to 2.9f version. Copy the five files included in the zip, to the folder where Mp4ForHd is installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=346797&d=1277072093
I hope you enjoy it.
Regards.
thx seems to be a great work
i gonna give a shot
Akhara said:
thx seems to be a great work
i gonna give a shot
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Try it. In the spanish forums all the people use it instead 'HTC Touch HD Video Encoder'.
It's absolutly freeware, no donations admited.
can i use it for htc diamond??
does it support vga rez??
intel286 said:
can i use it for htc diamond??
does it support vga rez??
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Yes, HTC Album of Touch Flo 3D makes the job. If you convert a video in a maxim of 800x480 you can view it perfectly in Diamond, at full screen, or with black bands.
yeah i need it withou black flags(bands), how can i get this??
Seems to work really well. The output is slightly worse than the output from Projections encoder, but its smoother. Its ideal for TV rips or non HD sources. Trying with an HD source file now.
Thanks for sharing this great utility
rovex said:
Seems to work really well. The output is slightly worse than the output from Projections encoder, but its smoother. Its ideal for TV rips or non HD sources. Trying with an HD source file now.
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What about your HD source try?
Damn it is slow! How long does it take to convert a 700mb movie?
jouh said:
Damn it is slow! How long does it take to convert a 700mb movie?
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About 1 hour. It depends of your computer.
probably no multicore support?
does anybody know how to convert film without black "flags" on bootom and top?
hey, Jandre, could you please upload it to rapishare or megaupload? thanks. can not download on mediafire.
is it me....or do i not see any output files in the output folder....
Rapidshare mirror: http://rapidshare.com/files/192980069/Mp4HtcHD_v1_1_.8_Setup.exe
My first time listing a mirror, hope I did that right!
JohnQ said:
hey, Jandre, could you please upload it to rapishare or megaupload? thanks. can not download on mediafire.
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Here you are:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=V65LYV4Q
As Mp4HtcHD user i highly recommend it, posted before in spanish forums and works like a charm.
Rgds,
Can you please at .m4v to your file filter.
Thats the extention for apple's DRM-free video from the itunes store, and your app converts it fine after the file is added (with some difficulty).
Surur
This is great, it converts my files without any problems. Best encoder I've seen so far. This deserves a sticky!
Use internal media player to play or use 3rd party player to play best?

Improving Movie Playback - Done !

Using the information provided in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500574
I've made some benchmarks using Coreplayer, and what a surprise when I saw that this wasn't just a placebo effect:
On my Blackstone, used some divx encoded movie (container is avi, not mp4, so not playable with wmp), and a movie acquired with the camera, so .mp4.
I did a benchmark and the result is the following:
Methods
HTC Touch HD, latest Dutty's V3 rom, freshly flashed.
No Additional program installed.
Coreplayer 1.3.0 build 6213
1st movie is a DVDrip, avi, xvid.
2nd movie has been acquired with the HD's camera, so it's MP4.
Results are presented as following:AVI movie / MP4 Movie / MP4 Video paused in WMP in background​Driver QTV117 % / 135% / without wmp running a mp4 vid.
115 % / 197% / with wmp runninga mp4 vid.​Driver DirectDraw92 % / 142% / without wmp running a mp4 vid.
86 % / 186% / with wmp runninga mp4 vid.
​Analysis:
The avi movie suffers from the additional memory used by WMP in the background, and there is no improvement.
The MP4 movie benchmark improves dramatically when a MP4 vid is paused in the background with WMP.
QTv still provides better results than DirectDraw.
Conclusion
There is some kind of acceleration with WMP in the background, but only with MP4 movies !
You may notice that it doesn't seem to be directdraw dependant. Neet, I love more confusion.
I want to thank zerocool159 for this nice finding.
Edit: doesn't seem to work with all the MP4 !Will try to find the right settings.
Impressive, I want to try it first
It's not working for me, but I think I must have missed something because my benchmarking gives 43%, it's the first time I try to play a movie on my HD.
Well, you need several things, and I don't know if it's related to the Rom version I use.
Take a quick movie of whatever with your camera. Use Windows media player to play it. Put it in pause.
Without closing WMP, launch Coreplayer (the latest version I assume), and play a .MP4 movie. You can convert almost anything with the movie encoder GUI found on here.
Bump. No one interested ? Really ?
I am very interested, this is in fact very funny. Since there is special dll - qtv-mp4-"something" . Actually this is very strange. I first thought that WMP is somehow modified to use acceleration, than i have been told I am wrong. Later, there were some qtv dll´s found, as mentioned before one especially for mp4, so this acceleration is abviously not coused JUST by directdraw support of WMP. Anyway, I hope that CP will release CP 2.0 sooon. Also, if it it true, than Topaz drivers can boost video playback.
Dredd67 said:
Well, you need several things, and I don't know if it's related to the Rom version I use.
Take a quick movie of whatever with your camera. Use Windows media player to play it. Put it in pause.
Without closing WMP, launch Coreplayer (the latest version I assume), and play a .MP4 movie. You can convert almost anything with the movie encoder GUI found on here.
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That's exactly what I did, nothing special happened, with or without wmp running, i got between 40 and 43%... the divx was encoded using an encoder found on this forum ^^
Ok, try with a video you've recorded with your HD's camera. I think there's something really weird going on. I've tried with a video compressed with badaboom and it doesn't work either.
I think the file format is very specific. Will ty to see if I can find the settings used by the camera to generate those files.
When I benchmark a camera video, I get 196%, and wmp still doesn't change anything...
There is definitely something weird going on, here's what I've posted in Manilla 2d speed boost thread:
This might be interesting to some people with more knowledge.
Tried this just now and it did make things run faster and smoother however, I noticed that on my homescreen the background I'm using had several white spots dotted about all over the screen (several hundred in fact) - as though the image had suffered from it's compression.
So, thinking I'd have to restart the device I just closed everything to first make sure I didn't have too many things running and noticed when closing HTC's Album the spots disappeared in front of my eyes!!
Tried it again with JUST Album running and the same thing happened.
Don't know if it will give anyone any clue as to what's going on but I'll try and grab some pictures if you think it would help
BTW: using the stock rom from Orange v1.19
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Just saw that also, really weird.
Using MyMobiler can't get a proper picture of the white dots, but they are still there.
Will try with pocket screen.
Edit : WEIRD: I can see them but impossible to capture them !
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i can confirm the graphical artefact displaying photos in the touchflo3d thumbview (white, blue, green smears and spots) while wmp is paused on a mp4 thingie...
having the picture thumbs scrolling is quite revealing : the dots on the pictures are part of the paused video !
theory : wmp loads some qualcomm dll for mp4 playback. said dll then does some stuff of its own that turns 2d overlay/framebuffering hw acceleration on.
meanwhile manila is doing the same thing througth some htc dll.
both apps access the framebuffer through 2d hardware, hilarity ensues !
draxredd said:
i can confirm the graphical artefact displaying photos in the touchflo3d thumbview (white, blue, green smears and spots) while wmp is paused on a mp4 thingie...
having the picture thumbs scrolling is quite revealing : the dots on the pictures are part of the paused video !
theory : wmp loads some qualcomm dll for mp4 playback. said dll then does some stuff of its own that turns 2d overlay/framebuffering hw acceleration on.
meanwhile manila is doing the same thing througth some htc dll.
both apps access the framebuffer through 2d hardware, hilarity ensues !
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Jup, I have encountered the same effect on my Laptop/PC with certain programs with video on pause, a application video overlay boxing match, so to speak...
It really isn't working for me, when I start playing the camera movie on wmp, and then i pause it and i start playing another camera video on coreplayer, wmp won't be showing the video anymore, i mean that when i get back to wmp and press play, i have sound but not picture... So maybe am I doing something wrong?
I found this branch in registry... maybe help?! I don`t know what is this...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DirectX\DirectShow\Video Renderer]
"KeyIndex"=hex:fd,00,00,00
"KeyColor"=hex:09,09,09,00
"MaxBackBuffers"=dword:00000001
"UseOverlayStretch"=dword:00000001
"UseScanLine"=dword:00000000
"SurfaceTypes"=dword:000000ff
no updates?
That's what I'm wondering...
Guys, the update is the app developed by Chainfire called GfxBoost a while ago, what's stated in this thread was preliminary observations that finaly lead to GfxBoost...
Mods you can lock this thread I think.
hello everybody,
I'd try this solution on my TP2 and it's work perfectly.
Without WMP i have 70% of speed
with it grow to 115 %.
Thank you for this solution.
Ps: I'd just start wmp with a mp3
I modify my post because this solution had work only one time.
I'd try to test with/without wmp but the speed stay at 70%, mystery, mystery !!

TV Out Performance ?

I'm very curious with TV Out Picture Quality? It's better than Touch Pro or not, what about the resolution (still 480x800 on TV or not) ? My dream is use this features to surf internet on my 50 inch HDTV
For what it's worth, I tested it with video and Video-googles - and it works just great.
The video googles are "only" 640x480 , I did not test internet & stuff like that - if I find an old-fashion TV - I'll test .
(in my house, there is only MediaPortal + DLP projector/and 30" displays) - without composite input. - Projector does have, but they are installed so nicely into ceiling, it's hard to get to.)
Here a review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bOD17rMSKI
If you want I can get some pictures of the device showing on an LCD projector tomorrow. Let me know.
Thanks Bro, It would very nice if we can see it on picture , I hope we can view all Pro2 activity on tv out like video call, editing office mobile, reading ebook/comic, playing games and many more that will make Pro2 as our media center, very
OK sorry for the delays people, I haven't forgotten.
All content is hosted on my home server so can't guarantee the speeds or availability.
All photos were taken in a moderately dark room and the images shown on a 78" 4:3 IWB (interactive whiteboard) with a 4:3 projector. Hence the image is letterboxed.
When running in TV-out mode, the phone will REMAIN in landscape mode even when the keyboard closed.
My first tests were with CorePlayer. I was also unable to play and show movies in CorePlayer properly, there was weird blue bands running all over the screen during playback. I also tried the YouTube Player which worked fine though.
Core Player Image showing the blue band issue (it's much more noticeable in the video below).
CorePlayer Video
YouTube Player Video
(The videos are in MP4 format. Play with VLC if you have problems viewing.)
The quality seems OK but due to the limitations of composite video, you if there is too much fine detail its going to look like s**t. For example check the following shots of Opera both zoomed in and out.
Zoomed In
Zoomed In (Close-up)
You can see when zoomed out that the text is not very readable.
Zoomed Out
Zoomed Out (Close-up)
On connection of the cable you get a default launch screen.
First Connection Prompt
Home screen looks like you'd expect.
Home Screen
A game running (Kevtris 2, for those interested )
File Manager
File Manager (close-up)
Seems I screwed up my port forwarding and the links were all dead. Sorry .
Try again now.
Comments welcome.
links doesn't seem to be working for me

Encoding video - best settings?

Hi I have just started using handbrake and I am a little baffled. What settings or programs do use to encode video for the Desire?
I tried one encode to .mp4 using h.264 codec however I only get the sound and no video. Any help would be appreciated....
use Mpeg-4 instead of h.264 at 800x480px, works fine
I use the built in settings for the iphone and it works fine!
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
JaykaySLO said:
use Mpeg-4 instead of h.264 at 800x480px, works fine
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Hi how do you set the size to 800x480 and maintain the original aspect ratio?
There is no way. 800x480px is the max resolution to use. If you have a file with a lower res, leave it at that.
Oh I see, I'll give that a go....
It's really odd that there isn't a decent video player app out there.....
you can set the width to 800px and pres the keep aspect ratio. that will set the height to whatever is needed to keep the aspect ratio.
If your after a decent media player try nemoplayer (I cant post the link to the thread but the thread number is 598509)
I converted a video to [email protected], it stuttered a little with the default player, but played perfectly with nemoplayer.
As for conversion, I have found Xilisoft to be very good, I paid for it to convert videos for my iPod Touch as it has great default profiles and its very quick as it uses all 4 cores of my CPU.
For the settings it depends on the video but I have been using the following settings for x264 MP4 video, these settings should work with any video converter.
16x9 video:
1000Kbps
192Kbps audio (for movies and music videos, 128 might be good enough for most)
resolution 800x450
It leaves the smallest of boarders top and bottom but it retains the corrent aspect ratio
4x3 video
800Kbps
192Kbps
reolution 640x480
that`s an overkill. 800 Kbps @23 fps, 96k audio is well enough. It plays fine on default video player. Smaller file size as well.
I tied 800Kbps and found it looked no better than the music videos I purchased from itunes which are smaller again and have a lower resolution.
I suppose the best thing to do is play about with bit rate for the video and go with what you are happy with, file size isnt a big issue for me when it comes to movies or TV shows as I tend to only have one or two on the SD card at a time.
As for audio please anything lower than 128kbps should be illegal
There's actualy a very nice thread on these forums discussing the settings for the HTC topaz and which programs to use, but since google turns up this thread as the first one I guess I'll add a little comment here as well.
Any converter should work to convert video to the right format, it doesn't matter which one u use, as long as your converter has the options to set the video bitrate, audio bitrate, aspect ratio, frames per sec and maybe some extra audio settings. I use format factory and It works great.
Mp4 format with AVC H264 videocoding is the way to go. how you turn the settings out is up to you and the space on your SD card (or lack of one).
I use the following settings to play HD video on my HTC Topaz:
-MP4 format
-AVC (H264) videocoding on 512 bitrate (you might go up to 768, but will lag longer videos which you encode from a HD source) and a 800x480 resolution.
-AAC audiocoding on 128 bitrate (indeed the minimum for people with sufficient hearing-capabilities, otherwise you might wanna go lower than that, but not advised as you can definitely hear the difference) and 44100 sample rate.
-Framerate of 25 (fixed, no real need changing this anyway, it's the best framerate out there, any higher will probably slow down your video on mobile devices)
-aspect ratio of 4:3 (you can pretty much set this one however you like, as long as you don't let it decide automaticaly. if you're not sure about your aspect ratio use this setting)
These settings work great on Topaz and are probable to work for other HTC models, as long as they have a maximum resolution of 800x480. One more thing is to notice that your HTC device (at least starting from Topaz (touch diamond 2) has the ability to playback HD content. You can test above settings with videos downloaded from the HD sample site from microsoft. point is the HD playback only works on the standard player coming with your device (windows mediaplayer) because the decoders are not freely given to other developers and therefore no other video playback program has them implemented in their mobile player.
Hope this helped.
c2k8cook said:
If your after a decent media player try nemoplayer (I cant post the link to the thread but the thread number is 598509)
I converted a video to [email protected], it stuttered a little with the default player, but played perfectly with nemoplayer.
As for conversion, I have found Xilisoft to be very good, I paid for it to convert videos for my iPod Touch as it has great default profiles and its very quick as it uses all 4 cores of my CPU.
For the settings it depends on the video but I have been using the following settings for x264 MP4 video, these settings should work with any video converter.
16x9 video:
1000Kbps
192Kbps audio (for movies and music videos, 128 might be good enough for most)
resolution 800x450
It leaves the smallest of boarders top and bottom but it retains the corrent aspect ratio
4x3 video
800Kbps
192Kbps
reolution 640x480
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I installed Nemoplayer, but it only displays the videos in my DCIM folder? I have tried to move my test video over to that folder too, but it still can't find it. I converted it to mp4 with format factory, at 320 x something so the size should be ok
I usually encode in .mp4 h.264 base profile, max 3 ref frames, 800x640 res max and no cabac or b frames. At constant rate factor of 24 image quality is great and file size impressively small.
Tested on many videos, only mencoder needed, can't get any simpler:
Put this as one line in convert2desire.bat:
mencoder %1 -o "%~n1.mp4" -of lavf -lavfopts format=mp4 -vf dsize=800:480:0,scale=0:0,expand=800:480:-1::::,harddup -sws 9 -ovc x264 -x264encopts crf=24:force_cfr:bframes=0:nocabac:no8x8dct:global_header -oac faac -faacopts br=128:mpeg=4bject=2:raw -af volnorm=1 -channels 2 -srate 44100 -delay 0.3
Then run "convert2desire.bat tobeconvertedvideo.avi"
The resulting file will be tobeconvertedvideo.mp4
Lower crf to have even better quality and larger file.
The -vf parameters will always output a 800x480 file and other screen ratios will be correctly scaled to fit inside 800x480.
Mencoder download:
sourceforge.net/projects/mplayer-win32/files/MPlayer%20and%20MEncoder/revision%2031139/MPlayer-rtm-svn-31139.7z/download
I must say the screen of the Desire is top notch quality!
It is ridiculous how crisp everything looks for such a small device.
Let me know if this script works for you.
Anyone tried doubletwist? It looks like itune, and if we sync video, it will convert it to the format that standard player in desire can play.
I agree on the audio delay in your script, the desire seems to delay video by a little.

[Q] Converting Video for WP7

Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
Just convert your Video to MP4 or WMV with WVGA resolution.
Audio said:
Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
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I think this application should solve your problem....you can adjust everything....
http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/
It was great,I use it to convert videos for my android and Iphone...and it is very flexible.You can adjust the bit rate,size...almost everything...and it is free...
That's what i'm using at them minute sylau as i said in my post
Audio said:
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me...
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Do you know of a good one which will let me just convert to mp4 WVGA Paul?
*EDIT* Just found This Thread which Recommends a GUI for MENCoder called "SUPER". My dealings with MENCoder have been great in the past so i'll give it a go and let others know what it's like.
FWIW the Microsoft way is to use Expression encoder for WMV. It's free, it's nice, and it does a good job encoding, so if you want WMV you should use that one.
paul_43 said:
Just convert your Video to MP4 or WMV with WVGA resolution.
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My Zune does not even want to read WMV files so I can not upload. I have multiple copies of DVD's/Blu-Ray's with digital copie of movie for portable devices.
I can copy those movies to my PC and watch them, I can watch them on HD2 but zune doesn ot see them so I can not copy them on to phone. They are all in WMV or MP4 format.
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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Same problem, I have digital copy's of blu-ray's that came with them, they play using WMV but the Zune Software won't see them and won't play them.
Download 'Expression Encoder'. There's an option to encode specifically for Zune.
Portos2008 said:
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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Funny as phone by default records in mp4
Mabe the audio stream?
I was just playing around with this last night, and the biggest issue was the audio stream. While it plays h264 streams up to the High Profile level 3.0, it did not like an AC3 stream. I had to demux a video that I had in an mkv container, convert the audio to AAC and remux into an mp4 container. Microsoft has a whole detailed table of stream type compatibility with bit rates, profiles, etc. I can't seem to post links, so search for it at the msdn dot microsoft dot com under this title "Supported Media Codecs for Windows Phone". The list on the WP7 consumer site sucks btw.
The AAC has two compatible types, AAC-LC and HE-AACv1 or v2.
I used MeGui to redo the audio, and yamb to mux it.
Thanks dgetz, here is the link to msdn.
Audio said:
Hi all,
just wondering what people are using to convert .avi/.mkv/etc to mp4/wmv/etc so Zune/Wp7 can use them?
ATM i'm using anyvideoconverter and converting the video's to "Zune HD" but it seems to leave a black border of about 5mm around every edge of the video which is really annoying me, so anyone got any other good ones?
Only confirmed ones please, i've used dozens of Conversion apps that say they'd do the job but in reality they don't, so only post if you've used one for WP7/Zune.
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for the time being i have been using "HTC Touch HD Video Converter"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Seems to work very well
anyone try clonedvd mobile. I have used this in the past with the sony psp settings and gotten very good results, just a very small black strip (maybe 1-2mm) across the top and bottom of the screen (on my hd2).
Portos2008 said:
MP4 don't work in Zune!
I tested with this videos: http://cid-e9230930f20e0820.office.live.com/browse.aspx/Windows Phone 7 Ads
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I can confirm that MP4 works on the Focus, using TV shows previously converted for my iPhone 4
I use handbrake on Windows and Mac to convert my videos, using the settings from
http://lifehacker.com/5572037/handbrake-presets-for-your-new-ipad-or-iphone-4
The results have been good, but using the frame(middle) setting shown in that article does bump up the file size a good amount, and as I'm sure a lot of you have heard, storage space isn't so easy to come by on WP7 yet...
Handbrake
I too can vouch for handbrake. All of the videos I have made for my ipod touch with it work just fine on the Focus. Unfortunately, the library I have for the touch is lower resolution, with videos at about 1/2 DVD resolution and at 500kbps encode rate. I end up with about 500 MB for the about 90 min. It is nice because they don't take up a lot of room, but still look decent. When output to a standard definition TV they look fine as well.
When I first put a few of these home videos on the Focus the lower quality was immediately noticeable. To see how I could push the phone, in my reply above I took a full DVD resolution video 720x400 (16x9 non-anamorphic) and corrected the audio stream. That video looks gorgeous on the Focus screen and is great for showing off the phone. It also takes up over 2.5 GB!!!! It is encoded at a rate of about 2100 kbps. As with any video encoding for a mobile device you have to make your own decision about resolution, encoding rate, etc in that constant game of quality versus size.
One thing to note. If there are black bars on your video, then either you have a video that was not encoded in a proportion that matches your screen or it was hard coded with the black bars. The second thing should be rare nowadays (eliminating this wasted information space was the point of an anamorphic DVD). The first is actually very common. IF your media is a studio movie, almost every action film these days comes at 2.35:1 instead of 16:9=1.77:1. Personally I like viewing any of my content in the way it was originally intended to be viewed and don't ever re-proportion anything. At the moment I am not sure if the Focus/WP7 'stretches' videos. I know on my ipod touch this was an option you could toggle by double tapping the video during playback...
Maybe I will play around with a few options tonight and report back.
have a zunehd and remember seeing this thread on abi
anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58183
it converts the audio of any avi/mkv and keeps the video the same, so converting only takes a few mins, and zune software recognizes it..for the zunehd anyways, maybe someone can try w/ wp7
Since I couldn't find right settings for MediaCoder (best video converter ever).
I was using Prism Video Converter for my Omnia7.
About settings for prism:
For .wmv use as video compresor WMV9 and for sound WMAV9, i am not changing the resolution as it is not bothering me at all. All files (mostly avi or mkv) played smooth after conversion.
If anybody have good settings for MediaCoder I will be much appreciated for sharing.
Thx
Okay, so MP4forHD works. The quality still isn't stunning, but it'll do for now (i guess.) However, i've encountered an issue with contrast. All my blacks appear as dark grays, which drives me nuts

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