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Hello Everyone,
I was looking for some advise as my T mobile contract ended last month and I was looking to by the touch pro 2 from mobilephonesdirect on a t-mobile tariff. When I spoke to T mobile to cancel my current tariff they advised me against purchasing the touch pro 2 as it has to many bugs in the software and they are working on correcting them.
Is this true? should I hold of for a bit?
Thank you for your advice
kornnutcase said:
Hello Everyone,
I was looking for some advise as my T mobile contract ended last month and I was looking to by the touch pro 2 from mobilephonesdirect on a t-mobile tariff. When I spoke to T mobile to cancel my current tariff they advised me against purchasing the touch pro 2 as it has to many bugs in the software and they are working on correcting them.
Is this true? should I hold of for a bit?
Thank you for your advice
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Maybe the custom rom tmobile put on has problems. Wish they would just leave it as it it default rom. I am just took delivery of my second touch pro 2 and use it sim free on tmobile. Second unit is perfect no problems at all.
kornnutcase said:
Hello Everyone,
I was looking for some advise as my T mobile contract ended last month and I was looking to by the touch pro 2 from mobilephonesdirect on a t-mobile tariff. When I spoke to T mobile to cancel my current tariff they advised me against purchasing the touch pro 2 as it has to many bugs in the software and they are working on correcting them.
Is this true? should I hold of for a bit?
Thank you for your advice
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I've only read about a few bugs in the HTC Touch Pro 2. Maybe the Sales rep was confused. Even so, once the bugs are fixed offical Firmware updates will be out. Or you can just flash custom ROM's like everyone else on here will do once Hard SPL is released.
T-Mobile will officially be releasing the MDA Vario V which is their version of the Rhodium. This will have there Firmware, not the Unbranded HTC that mobilephonesdirect is selling.
Ta
Dave
Dave
kornnutcase said:
Hello Everyone,
I was looking for some advise as my T mobile contract ended last month and I was looking to by the touch pro 2 from mobilephonesdirect on a t-mobile tariff. When I spoke to T mobile to cancel my current tariff they advised me against purchasing the touch pro 2 as it has to many bugs in the software and they are working on correcting them.
Is this true? should I hold of for a bit?
Thank you for your advice
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please pay no attention to the t-mobile reps at all. they have no idea as to how the phone performs or of any issues with rom. like previously stated they may be having issues applying their version of the rom to the phone and experiencing problems. it is much better buying a generic/unbranded version as you know it is how the manufacturer intended it to look and operate. i have got my phone from mobilephones direct and i assure you the phone has been spot on! i would not wait for t-mobile mda vario v as not only will it look slightly different but will have their branding all over it. they also have a habit of messing with hardware so i'd stay clear for now!
Thank you for the advice
I also bought mine on a T mobile contract from mobile phones direct and there are no issues with it. In fact I have bought the original Touch Pro and touch HD sim free too and never had any problems. Phone company reps don't know anything, getting it from MPD will not only work out cheaper than an official T mobile upgrade, i.e vario V, it will also be unlocked and unbranded. win win situation.
News has it, t-mobiles dropping it on July 22nd, [if youre in the US, like me]. there was another roadmap that was leaked, this time confirming all of the release dates. go look on Tmonews.com, engadget.com, tmotoday.com. They all have different articles about the phones that are coming out...
You'll save more money buying it branded from Tmobile. thats a given. but like they were saying, you can always change your ROM to and from the branded one. I can only imagine all of the bloatware Tmobile will throw on there, stupid apps and **** like that, that take up memory on your phone. I think ill wait til Tmobile releases their version, and if i dont like their ROM, ill switch. probably the best thing to do, id think.
I am already a T mobile customer but is it true that I will not be able to keep my exsiting number on a new contract with T mobile through mobilephonesdirect?
looking to buy through mpd
Hi
I am looking at getting a tp2 from mobilephonesdirect but I have never had one sim free before or a windows mobile before, but I love everything I have read about this phone.
I just have some questions if anyone would be so kind to help.
If I get it through MPD and take out a t-mobile contract with them, how easy is it (don't forget I'm a newbie) to sort out the voicemail settings and text message centre thingy settings ?
Also if I go onto the internet does it automatically do it so it is included in the web and walk free data ?
Sorry if they are stupid questions
Thanks in advance
Si
When you switch your phone on with the new Tmobile sim in it it will download all of the settings from tmobile and ask you to reboot. all of your settings will then be in place. Dont forget tmobile charge for voicemail so its best to disable it straigh away
You'll save more money buying it branded from Tmobile. thats a given.
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Are you sure? Have you seen the price of the Vario iv on the tmobile website?
Thanks for that Stunno.
When you say disable the voicemail. Do you use an alternative or can people not leave you a message when trying to contact you
Thanks
Si
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I am already a T mobile customer but is it true that I will not be able to keep my exsiting number on a new contract with T mobile through mobilephonesdirect?
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Hi,
You would not be able to port an existing TMob number to a new TMob contract. What you can do though, is port your existing number to a Pay&Go service on another network, then port it back to your new contract. A pain in the ass process, can take up to two weeks to get the number ported back to where you want it but worth doing it.
I too got mine from MPD and am going through the above process now, it is the only way to keep your existing number unless you upgrade direct with TMob, which ultimately costs more and you end up with the disgusting Pink branding all over your lovely new Rhodium as well as the bloatware which is a disgrace, I've only ever bought one device as an official upgrade and will never do it again.
Cheers,
Beasty
The latter, I always think if it is important they will ring back! Or I might just be tight, lol
The phone gives a list of missed calls, and if I ring them back it comes out of my free minutes, but calls to voicemail cost 10p a minute.
T-Mobile UK
Hi
I've just got a TP2 on T-Mo UK through www.mobilephonesdirect.com All seems OK so far. Not too impressed with the radio reception but I suspect this will improve with ROM updates/hacks.
I got it on the 700 minutes, unlimited text and data for £35-00 per month. Handset £25-00. The device came unbranded and works fine on the T-Mo network.
Happy with the deal.
andrew-in-woking
beast0898 said:
Hi,
You would not be able to port an existing TMob number to a new TMob contract. What you can do though, is port your existing number to a Pay&Go service on another network, then port it back to your new contract. A pain in the ass process, can take up to two weeks to get the number ported back to where you want it but worth doing it.
I too got mine from MPD and am going through the above process now, it is the only way to keep your existing number unless you upgrade direct with TMob, which ultimately costs more and you end up with the disgusting Pink branding all over your lovely new Rhodium as well as the bloatware which is a disgrace, I've only ever bought one device as an official upgrade and will never do it again.
Cheers,
Beasty
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Hello, thank you for the advice, ill give it a go so just to check I have got this right:-
1. I purchase a new pay as you go sim that is not on the T mobile network.
2. Cancel my T mobile contract request a pac code.
3. Use this pac code to transfer my number with the pay as you go service
4. Once number moves over cancel my pay as you go service receive another pac code.
5. Purchase new phone with mobilephonesdirect with pac code
Thank you again
kornnutcase said:
Hello, thank you for the advice, ill give it a go so just to check I have got this right:-
1. I purchase a new pay as you go sim that is not on the T mobile network.
2. Cancel my T mobile contract request a pac code.
3. Use this pac code to transfer my number with the pay as you go service
4. Once number moves over cancel my pay as you go service receive another pac code.
5. Purchase new phone with mobilephonesdirect with pac code
Thank you again
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Yep, you got it
It is a pain in the ass process, but the only way to keep your number.
Have done this myself several times with no issue (par an 02 contract, long story there)
You don't have to wait before getting the new contract on TMob by the way, you can port the number to the new contract any time.
Cheers,
Beasty
Thanks Stunno and others for the valuable advice
I'm tight too stunno. I like your thinking lol.
Are you sure? Have you seen the price of the Vario iv on the tmobile website?
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id rather pay 500, maybe 600 dollars, with Tmobile then pay 900 from some person in china that might be sending me [literally] a brick in a box...
josh_prayyforplagues said:
id rather pay 500, maybe 600 dollars, with Tmobile then pay 900 from some person in china that might be sending me [literally] a brick in a box...
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Agree with you there but here in the UK we can get them from the afor mentioned mobile phones direct who are based locally down in the south of England.
josh_prayyforplagues said:
id rather pay 500, maybe 600 dollars, with Tmobile then pay 900 from some person in china that might be sending me [literally] a brick in a box...
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I can't disagree with you there, but I bought my Diamond from beepymobile on a 12 month Tmobile contract @ £25 a month which worked out substantially less than Tmobie wanted for the same minutes/texts so it does pay to shop around
Ok quick question for all you geniuses out there in XDA land.
I want this phone but I am not sure how to go about getting it.
I bought the Touch HD in the UK from my girlfriends provider, she got a new contract and i just bought her a new phone and she kept the SIM.
I hated the fact that there was no keypad on that phone and it drove me crazy so i sold it.
NOW~
I want the TP2, i can get it in the UK with a min plan ( i plan on moving there next year anyway) and this way i can pay monthly on it and will get all the goodies the phone was intended to have that the US markets kill, much like every other HTC phone I have had in the past.
OR~
I can wait for it to come out thru AT&T but wont be able to get a discount on it till November when my contract exp. (lame). Plus who knows what will be removed from the phone and how much it will cost to buy outright here.
I guess I will be losing 3G again as the bands are not the same right?
Other than that I have front facing camera and all the other goodies that come with the phone.
Suggestions?
thanks
I'm in a dilemma and in need of some advice. I'm in the market for a new Windows Mobile Phone. The last phone I had (The HP Ipaq 910c) went sour on me 3 times before I finally sold it off. I've been using a phone that's 8 years old for the past several months...trying to patiently wait for the Touch Pro 2 on AT&T.
Here's my problem...I'm on an unlimited data plan right now with AT&T that's relatively cheap. If I were to sign a new 2 year contract with them with the Tilt 2, my monthly bill would increase by about $30-$40 dollars with the new data plans they put in place. (I'm on a family plan). I'm due for an upgrade because my HP 910c was unlocked and I didn't have to sign a contract, but I still used it on the AT&T networks. I guess my question is...is there a way to do this with the Tilt 2 ...get it unlocked and still use the data plan I have without having to go through AT&T and have all the sluggish software they install put on the phone. Not to mention I was using CoPilot GPS on my HP 910c and I wanted to be still use that on my Tilt 2 (doesn't AT&T have the GPS locked or charge for the service?) ...I'm not the expert on phones and how carriers change things up so I apologize if I'm completely off in left field with these statements. I know you can also buy the phone...non commitment with AT&T for $550ish, but I'm worried they'd still charge me for some of these services I'm wanting. Soooooooo...
I've looked at these two sites who are selling an unlocked version of the AT&T Tilt 2:
($600) Negri Electronics: http://www.negrielectronics.com/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_id=2758
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($550) Wireless Networks: http://www.ewirelessexperts.com/product_info.php?products_id=1361
Can anybody recommend one of these sellers and/or tell me if they are legit and point me in the right direction?
OR am I better off just signing a new contract with either AT&T or Verizon. I'm basically trying to find the least expensive way to get this phone and use it how I want to use it. I don't want to be paying extra for monthly services and data plans that I COULD already have available to myself. I really like Verizon's version (I've heard its the closest to the original HTC Touch Pro 2 as far as the software. And that there is virtually no carrier bloat pre-installed...not to mention there's a 3.5mm jack...but that's not a deal breaker for me) ...OR is there anyway I CAN get the Verizon version UNLOCKED and still use it on the AT&T networks somehow? I've heard the 3G bands are different. Could anyone confirm if this is even a possibility? (Also I'm wanting to run Windows Mobile 6.5 on this phone...so I need to take into account how much it would be to upgrade if I did take the Verizon route and when the update would be available)
I definitely want 3G...I know there are unlocked versions of this phone that don't have it and I want to STAY AWAY from that. I've also heard stories that AT&T can somehow detect now when you're using a new phone and switch your SIM card to a different model (and that they can change or start charging you differently if they catch you). BASICALLY ...is there a way to avoid all this and finally get myself an ever-so-lovely Unlocked Touch Pro 2? And...from WHERE?
OK here is the deal. If you want 3G then either find an unlocked version or pay retail for the ATT TP2 549.99. As long as you dont upgrade your account then you are grandfathered in for your data. I would pay the retail price which is cheaper then an unlocked version and then call ATT to get the unlock code. You can remove the bloat ware easy enough, Custom rom.
Does anyone know about the legitimacy of the Negri or Wireless Networks sellers? I'm skeptical to buy it directly from AT&T...Just having to deal with the additional software and having to unlock it...and them possibly noticing a change and changing up the price of my service...just seems like a hassle. I just wanna buy it, get it, put in my SIM card, and live happily ever after with no worries.
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Does anyone know about the legitimacy of the Negri or Wireless Networks sellers? I'm skeptical to buy it directly from AT&T...Just having to deal with the additional software and having to unlock it...and them possibly noticing a change and changing up the price of my service...just seems like a hassle. I just wanna buy it, get it, put in my SIM card, and live happily ever after with no worries.
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No matter where you get it after awhile your IMEI will reg on the system and they will know you are using a TP2. Even with an unlocked version of ATT touch pro 2 it will still come with all the att software as it is the only version that comes with 6.5. If you look at the screen shot it still has the ATT tab in TF3d. I cant say about those places but on the go solutions I have delt with and when I got an unlocked carrier version it still had all the bloatware installed. I called them and they stated that they only unlock them, they dont change anything else.
Will At&T just give you the unlock code... no questions asked? I thought they kept it locked for a reason. And if I buy it from At&T for $550 do I get any kind of warranty if say a part fails on the device?
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Will At&T just give you the unlock code... no questions asked? I thought they kept it locked for a reason. And if I buy it from At&T for $550 do I get any kind of warranty if say a part fails on the device?
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They will give you the unlock code if you buy it out right and tell them you travel overseas. It will have the normal one year warrenty if you buy it at one of the stores. You can always add insurence to the plan when you buy it out right with in 30 days.
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zelendel said:
They will give you the unlock code if you buy it out right and tell them you travel overseas. It will have the normal one year warrenty if you buy it at one of the stores. You can always add insurence to the plan when you buy it out right with in 30 days.
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This only works if you've been with AT&T for at least 3 months. If you're starting a new plan/new account with AT&T, you have to wait 3 months before unlocking your phone. Otherwise, just tell CS that you want it unlocked for overseas travel.
i got my tilt2 directly from att for 425. dont have it unlocked yet, as i dunno if i want to keep the phone or go under a contract (prices are around 99 with 2yr). with contract prices so low, maybe it makes sense to pay the extra $10-15 for their new data plan? especially with att new data plan rules for all smartphones. I'd hate to pay full price and the have att bump me up 2 months or so down the line, when I can't return the phone..
motoq9h said:
i got my tilt2 directly from att for 425. dont have it unlocked yet, as i dunno if i want to keep the phone or go under a contract (prices are around 99 with 2yr). with contract prices so low, maybe it makes sense to pay the extra $10-15 for their new data plan? especially with att new data plan rules for all smartphones. I'd hate to pay full price and the have att bump me up 2 months or so down the line, when I can't return the phone..
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If they bump up prices, you can call them and they HAVE to let you out of your contract, without any penalty at all
i recomend you buy a locked one and unlock it here using Olipro programs , are 100% safe , and locked phones are cheaper
arreguingalindo said:
i recomend you buy a locked one and unlock it here using Olipro programs , are 100% safe , and locked phones are cheaper
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Wow, way to go replying to a thread that's over a year old.
I am an AT&T employee but don't quite understand the whole activation and SIM scenario. Here is my situation.
I have a company provided phone and data plan. I want to get the Tilt 2 but the company won't spring for it. I am eligible for an upgrade through my personal account, but then I have to sign a new 2 year contract and it makes me select a data plan. Well, I don't currently have a data plan on my personal account and I don't want one (because I use my company phone exclusively). So I realize that I need to simply buy a phone outside of the AT&T retail loop. And I want it to be AT&T branded because I definitely want it to be compatible with the ATT 3G network.
My question is, is there any difference between buying a used or new AT&T branded Tilt 2 off eBay or similar place in regards to it working with my company provided SIM? Meaning, does a new phone require some kind of activation or can I just slip my SIM card in and go? If I get a used Tilt 2 is there a possible issue with the phone being registered to someone else and not working with my SIM? I am trying to avoid dealing with the AT&T CSR's because I am afraid that they will somehow screw up my company account just because I bought the phone myself. And lastly, since I know I will be using it with the ATT network, is there any advantage to getting an unlocked version? Thanks for your time.
ChasDun said:
I am an AT&T employee but don't quite understand the whole activation and SIM scenario. Here is my situation.
I have a company provided phone and data plan. I want to get the Tilt 2 but the company won't spring for it. I am eligible for an upgrade through my personal account, but then I have to sign a new 2 year contract and it makes me select a data plan. Well, I don't currently have a data plan on my personal account and I don't want one (because I use my company phone exclusively). So I realize that I need to simply buy a phone outside of the AT&T retail loop. And I want it to be AT&T branded because I definitely want it to be compatible with the ATT 3G network.
My question is, is there any difference between buying a used or new AT&T branded Tilt 2 off eBay or similar place in regards to it working with my company provided SIM? Meaning, does a new phone require some kind of activation or can I just slip my SIM card in and go? If I get a used Tilt 2 is there a possible issue with the phone being registered to someone else and not working with my SIM? I am trying to avoid dealing with the AT&T CSR's because I am afraid that they will somehow screw up my company account just because I bought the phone myself. And lastly, since I know I will be using it with the ATT network, is there any advantage to getting an unlocked version? Thanks for your time.
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You *could* buy it straight-out from a store, if they give you any crap about it tell them it's a gift and you will do the activation when the person receives it. You'll be paying $500ish this way, however. But they won't touch your data service. In the long run, it's cheaper this way. For me it would have cost $15 extra month to upgrade to the Tilt 2 so I figure the $360 over the 2 year contract and forevermore it was worth paying more for the phone up-front.
Thanks Kha for the response. What is the advantage to getting it at the ATT store vs ebay or somewhere similar? New ATT TP2s seem to be going for around $400 on ebay from reputable dealers and slightly used ones for around $350. Either way, can I drop my SIM card in without having to do anything else?
If you buy a Tilt 2 from AT&T, you get the benefit of the 1-year warranty and the piece of mind of knowing that it's un-soiled. If you purchase from eBay or some other used device avenue, you could get it from a decent discount, compared to the store purchase, but the device won't have the warranty (unless it's from a eBay store seller who offers a non-AT&T warranty) or it could be stolen and there might be a flag on the IMEI number. This is probably not the case if you buy from a seller with excellent feedback. If you purchase from eBay, you might want to consider the OEM branded HTC Touch Pro2. It has the front-facing camera, it's unlocked and won't be tracked by AT&T, a lot of people prefer the OEM housing to the Tilt 2's, I think the tolerances on the battery cover are tighter so the device is slightly slimmer, and it looks different than all the other TP2's you'll see around the US.
And about your SIM question, yes you should be able to insert your SIM and start using your phone. If you don't get a Tilt 2, you might have to configure the connection settings for the AT&T network first.
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If you purchase from eBay, you might want to consider the OEM branded HTC Touch Pro2.
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The only problem with buying the European/International unlocked version is that there will be no AT&T 3G support. That was the dealbreaker for me when I wanted the unlocked Rhodium.
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OP: As long as the phone is sold from a reputable dealer (so it's likely not IMEI blacklisted) you should be able to pop in your SIM and be done. And most any firmware, whether cooked or stock AT&T, should be able to automatically configure all the data settings like apn, username & password, and data line type. There's no worry about the phone being registered to another person, unless it's blacklisted from the network because it was reported as stolen. A good reason to always buy from reputable people.
In my opinion, there's not a practical advantage to getting the unlocked version. The only thing I don't like about the Tilt2 versus the OEM Touch Pro2 would be the horrendous keyboard changes, but you get used to it eventually. Getting the unlocked version would cost more money, but be almost the same thing. The unlocked one also wouldn't support AT&T's 3G network, and AFAIK the front facing camera wouldn't work on AT&T's network regardless of 3G connection.
The only thing you might not like about the Tilt2 as opposed to the OEM Touch Pro2 would be the internal chipset; the Tilt2 uses the slightly weaker Qualcomm MSM7201A processor, which cannot record VGA video while the unlocked Touch Pro2 can because it uses the slightly more powerful MSM7200A. The screen on the Tilt2 is also said to be slightly less vibrant than the OEM version, but it's still a fantastic display and I didn't even notice it. If I were in your position, I would buy the Tilt2, as its benefits clearly outweigh its faults.
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The only problem with buying the European/International unlocked version is that there will be no AT&T 3G support. That was the dealbreaker for me when I wanted the unlocked Rhodium.
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The OP mentioned that he has no intention of using the Tilt 2 for data, so I assumed that was a moot point. Good call about mentioning that though.
Hi All. Thanks for your replies. They have been very helpful. The Tilt 2 price just dropped in ATTs retail stores from $499 to $399. I was in 2 different stores today and saw the new price. I finally convinced them to sell me the phone at the no commitment price without trying to link my IMEI before I left (again, this is for my AT&T company provided phone (COU) and not my personal phone). Anyway, retail people cannot access ATT employees COU accounts even if they tried. So the gal at the store said I would have to call COU to get the IMEI linked to my COU account. Is this true? I thought I could just take the SIM out of my Treo 750 and pop it into my Tilt 2 and go.
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Hi All. Thanks for your replies. They have been very helpful. The Tilt 2 price just dropped in ATTs retail stores from $499 to $399. I was in 2 different stores today and saw the new price. I finally convinced them to sell me the phone at the no commitment price without trying to link my IMEI before I left (again, this is for my AT&T company provided phone (COU) and not my personal phone). Anyway, retail people cannot access ATT employees COU accounts even if they tried. So the gal at the store said I would have to call COU to get the IMEI linked to my COU account. Is this true? I thought I could just take the SIM out of my Treo 750 and pop it into my Tilt 2 and go.
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You can just put the SIM in and it will work.
Do you not have a data plan of any kind? AT&T is now adding data plans to the accounts of purchasers of its new branded smartphones. Don't be surprised if you get a text message from AT&T within as day or two that the smartphone data plan has been added to your account. I had the $15 Media Net plan with an unlocked Palm Treo Pro and my wife had PPU data with her Moto V3xx. I bought a Tilt 2 for me and a Bold 9700 for her and as soon as the phones were activated we each got text messages that the appropriate data plans had been added to our accounts. There were loopholes in the past to get around it (call in with the IMEI of a dumbphone) but AT&T is now tracking the IMEI's of its branded smartphones and adding data plans. Users with older devices and the $15 Media Net plan seem to be grandfathered in for now (there was a "Smartphone Exclusion" feature that showed up on people's feature lists when the policy chaged recently).
Thanks DW. I do have a data and voice plan on my SIM. It is paid for by the company. So from what I understand I can just put my same SIM card in the new phone and be done.
Hi,
I'm heading to Spain next month with my unlocked GSM GNex and was wondering if anyone had any advice about providers over there. I would like to buy a SIM and a prepaid data/text/voice plan. Ideally it would be something without any monthly minimum that I could hold onto while back in the States and bring with me whenever I go back to Spain (which would be only a couple times a year). A pay-as-you-go with no expiration date or monthly minimums, I guess.
On a side/related note:
Last summer (before I owned a GNex) I was in Madrid and bought a bare-bones phone with a prepaid voice/text plan from Orange. However, since I haven't put money on the phone in more than six months, the number has disappeared (per the terms of service). Shouldn't I be able to repurpose that SIM with a new plan and pop it into my GNex? I have asked that question over at the Orange forums, so I hope to get the info direct from the source. But I figured I would ask here as well.
Thanks in advance for any tips!