Develop Bugs

Speaker Volume

For a while I was having this issue intermittently and when I'd notice it (having not found any option or control otherwise) I'd just restart the phone and it would resolve. Now... it's not resolving.
The ring, notifications, MP3s, everything that plays through the rear speaker is whisper quiet. The only volume controls I can find are under profile settings, call volume controlled by the JOGGR, and in the WM Player. All are set to max. I've tried different profiles and raised everything as high as it will go.
Still vewy, vewy quiet.
What am I missing?

yourmom1138 said:
For a while I was having this issue intermittently and when I'd notice it (having not found any option or control otherwise) I'd just restart the phone and it would resolve. Now... it's not resolving.
The ring, notifications, MP3s, everything that plays through the rear speaker is whisper quiet. The only volume controls I can find are under profile settings, call volume controlled by the JOGGR, and in the WM Player. All are set to max. I've tried different profiles and raised everything as high as it will go.
Still vewy, vewy quiet.
What am I missing?
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You could try SmartToolKit http://www.e-natives.com/www.php/download/id/40/SmartToolkit_1_0_0_RC08.html has a master volume as a gadget.

Or you can try this, i used it works fine for the S620.
Here you go

Mikey1022 said:
Or you can try this, i used it works fine for the S620.
Here you go
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Hadn't tryed that till now, very good prog and looks sweet.

Music Player / Answer Calls

I've been playing with my Defy for a while, and I've not found any Mp3Player that can do play/pause/next with the included headset AND ALSO answer calls when they come in with the same button.
I used to have a Nokia 5800 which had an awesome headset with play|pause|next|previous|stop|answercall buttons.
I've been unable to find something like that for Defy (android really), is this an "issue" or does it have a solution?
Thanks in advance to whoever helps

Can't say for sure they work as mine haven't arrived yet but Zagg Smartbuds are suppose to be able to do that using multiple presses and long presses & an analog volume control

gramps50 said:
Can't say for sure they work as mine haven't arrived yet but Zagg Smartbuds are suppose to be able to do that using multiple presses and long presses & an analog volume control
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Thanks for the answer, can you post your results when you receive them?
It's funny cause MY headset on a Galaxy S with Winamp configured exactly the same, actually goes to the next song with double press, but not in my defy.
Hope yours work fine =) I want to be able to at least skip songs and also answer/hang up from the headset=)

Got my ZaggSmartBuds today and had a chance to play with them. At 1st I wasn't real happy with them as all I could do was pause the misic and if I did anything else like long press or double press it would open up the other players I had installed. So I started gettting rid of them one my one, I had Mixing, Songbird, & Tunewiki, plus the stock music app.
I don't remember which one I think it was Tunewiki with nothing else installed when you douple clicked or long clicked it would bring up the voice command app. Didn't try answering the phone as it didn't work the music apps well. Un-install all of those and installed PowerAmp and now I can answer the phone, music pauses when the call come in, answered it by pressing the button on the headset. Music returns at the end of the call when the party hangs up or you press the button again.
Long press and it will skip the playing song and go to the next one. There are some options in PowerAmp to set the button to Double/Triple click, so you can go forward or reverse didn't try that option.
The SmartBuds came with 2 sizes for foam ear pieces and 3 sizes or silcone ear pieces with a nice little hard shell zipper case to carry them in. I liked the volume control inline even though it was analog I didn't have to adjust the volume on the phone from it's normal setting yet I could still adjust the volume or mute it. I didn't have to turn the volume down for the call as it was to loud but was able to do that with the inline control. The buds have amazing sound. It takes a little practice to inset the buds in my ears as they are angled once I got the hang of it they slipped right in.
Hope that answered your question

Hi,
As gramps50 wrote above, with PowerAmp you can set up in the option to : play or stop the music with the handset button, when a call is coming, the music stops and you can answer with the same button. When you finish your call, the music restarts automatically.

gadzio said:
Hi,
As gramps50 wrote above, with PowerAmp you can set up in the option to : play or stop the music with the handset button, when a call is coming, the music stops and you can answer with the same button. When you finish your call, the music restarts automatically.
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Thanks both for the input.
I'll give that a try. It still amazes me that a BASIC functionality like the Nokia headsets include, does not seem to be available on this phone! it's really weird!

App called Handset Button Controller maybe help you.
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thanks! i've used poweramp and it worked fine=)

Fix the Volume control...

OMG.... I have missed a number of calls due to this stupid bug. A goddamn smartphone in 2011 does not have a seperate volume control for the ringtone... wtf? I dont care about copy-paste, multitasking or quad core proccys but plz MS just fix this fcuking bug. This is the only issue on my Samsung Focus that bugs the hell out of me.
//end of rant

How is that a bug? Its more of a missing feature... One that doesn't require you to get so upset over... And it's your own fault for missing the calls, knowing the phone doesn't have the separate volume control you should be more attentive to your volume because I definitely don't have this problem.

I agree with the OP. There is no excuse for not having separate volume controls. It's easy to miss calls or other important events because of it.

Yes but when you use your phone for gaming and listening to music this IS a problem. I have to reduce the volume when using my in-ear headphones and I always remember to increase it after taking them off but the times when I forget to do this, its a real pain to hear your friends scream at you for not picking up their calls on time.
And these are the same friends who I am trying to convince into buying a WP7 instead of an iPhone/Android, so yes it is frustrating.
The least MS can do is have independent settings for headphones and the speaker phone, this way when you do take out your headphones it reverts back.

While yes, I would prefer different volume controls, I stand by my statement, its your fault. This isn't a bug that needs to be fixed, it's a feature request. I listen to music on my phone all day long as well... But I'm on top of my volume controls... And I do agree separate controls would make it easier... And if your friends scream at you because you need to return a call 5 minutes later, maybe you need new friends.

cbebop7 said:
OMG.... I have missed a number of calls due to this stupid bug. A goddamn smartphone in 2011 does not have a seperate volume control for the ringtone... wtf?
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Me too. it's really a shame.
+1

Isn't a fix in the next NoDo update ?!

FiyaFleye said:
While yes, I would prefer different volume controls, I stand by my statement, its your fault. This isn't a bug that needs to be fixed, it's a feature request. I listen to music on my phone all day long as well... But I'm on top of my volume controls... And I do agree separate controls would make it easier... And if your friends scream at you because you need to return a call 5 minutes later, maybe you need new friends.
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lol... yeah I will need new friends if MS does not fix this sooner
But seriously dude it is a real pain and a required feature. I agree its not a bug but a cell phone does need to have an independent ringer volume so yeah its kinda a required feature. Its not a problem when you have your phone with you but if you are at home during weekends/holidays/nights its a big deal.

I fully agree with OP. The way volume control is implemented (or rather not implemented at all) is Embarrassing. There is quite a number of other really basic features or settings missing from WP 7. I can only wonder why they care so much with delivering copy and paste before bringing basic stuff like proper volume control, speed dial et c.

I would suggest trying an application called Media Volume Settings. This allows control over the media volume seperate from the ringger volume.

jessej said:
I would suggest trying an application called Media Volume Settings. This allows control over the media volume seperate from the ringger volume.
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Useless, waste of time.

fongfc said:
Useless, waste of time.
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Care to explain why??
Might help people more then just dismissing it....
Sent from my fingers to your face...

conantroutman said:
Care to explain why??
Might help people more then just dismissing it....
Sent from my fingers to your face...
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I will. I tried that app early on and found it to be useless for conveniently controlling the volume. Once you have the volume, in-app, set and go to your media, it seems to be fine. But once you alter the built-in volume, it screws with the volume app and seems to bypass it. You always have to go to the volume app to make any changes...in a game or music, leave game or music to open volume app to change volume. Then go back to game or music. Find the music or game still just not at the right volume? Go back to volume app, slightly change it, go back to music or game and analyze.
The app doesn't integrate well.

I agree with OP! I also have a problem where if I play a game and I try to listen to music after wards the music is very low even at max only after I turn the phone on and off does it revert back to normal

I agree that it is not the best solution but it atleast gives you the option of having the ring tone up load enough to hear without blasting all forms of media.

professorwol said:
I agree with OP! I also have a problem where if I play a game and I try to listen to music after wards the music is very low even at max only after I turn the phone on and off does it revert back to normal
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This can be solved by using Media Volume Settings in the Marketplace. It has a fully functional free ad-supported version. Have you even read this thread? It's literally only 2 pages.

cbebop7 said:
Yes but when you use your phone for gaming and listening to music this IS a problem. I have to reduce the volume when using my in-ear headphones and I always remember to increase it after taking them off but the times when I forget to do this, its a real pain to hear your friends scream at you for not picking up their calls on time.
And these are the same friends who I am trying to convince into buying a WP7 instead of an iPhone/Android, so yes it is frustrating.
The least MS can do is have independent settings for headphones and the speaker phone, this way when you do take out your headphones it reverts back.
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have you tried "Media Volume Setting" in the marketplace?

App is not a solution
I agree with OP, this is an incredibly frustrating problem.
Unfortunately, it is consistent with the rest of the OS, i.e. *completely dumbed down*.
I listen to podcasts before I sleep most evenings. I like to listen with the volume on 1.
However, I always have to try and remember to turn it back up to a high setting so that I can hear my alarm (assuming it sounds, that is... but that's another story).

FiyaFleye said:
While yes, I would prefer different volume controls, I stand by my statement, its your fault. This isn't a bug that needs to be fixed, it's a feature request. I listen to music on my phone all day long as well... But I'm on top of my volume controls... And I do agree separate controls would make it easier... And if your friends scream at you because you need to return a call 5 minutes later, maybe you need new friends.
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It's not his fault. The phone really should offer different volume controls for media and the phone ringer. I agree it's just not logical to have both in the same area, especially since the phone really foroces you to use headsets for so much stuff (notwithstanding the fact that sound quality on HTC phones are terrible, but FM Radio will not work without a headset, EQ is required to make some music sound decent, and that requires a headset, among other things). Sorry, but only a dumb person, or one hard of hearing, would have their phone blasting at near max volume in their ears.
When the phone is playing media, it the volume controls should be for media only - not the ringer.
It's Microsoft's fault. They went out of their way to put as few settings into the OS as possible. You'd think a company that has been maintaining a smartphone OS for at least a decade would at least have the basics down by now.
And no, he doesn't need new friends. A call can be an emergency, and in an emergency sometimes you don't have 5 minutes to return the call. You need to hear the phone ringing, and take that call.
Imagine someone from the school calling you about your child and you return the call 5 minutes later and say "LOL sorry I didn't hear my ringer, was listening to some Podcasts and forgot to put the Volume back up."
It's embarassing, clunkly, illogical, and just a ****ty way to implement this.

Agreed also about needing to have separate volume controls. Right now I keep my phone on vibrate and that helps to minimize the issue but hopefully MS adds this feature later.

Adjust call volume seperately

I've got Mango Beta installed on my HD7. What me bothered since I used WM7 and hasn't changed is that I can't adjust the volume on the music player, so I've to tune down the volume when I'm listening to music.
But since it's the general volume of the device, incoming calls are ringing too low when I forget to re-up the volume. Isn't there a better way or another software player I could use as standard player for music?

cla3 said:
I've got Mango Beta installed on my HD7. What me bothered since I used WM7 and hasn't changed is that I can't adjust the volume on the music player, so I've to tune down the volume when I'm listening to music.
But since it's the general volume of the device, incoming calls are ringing too low when I forget to re-up the volume. Isn't there a better way or another software player I could use as standard player for music?
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Not possible in this version

cla3 said:
I've got Mango Beta installed on my HD7. What me bothered since I used WM7 and hasn't changed is that I can't adjust the volume on the music player, so I've to tune down the volume when I'm listening to music.
But since it's the general volume of the device, incoming calls are ringing too low when I forget to re-up the volume. Isn't there a better way or another software player I could use as standard player for music?
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That is one of my major misses from 6.5... You want to play a game quietly in your office so you turn it down to 0 or 1, but, when the phone rings you forget to turn it up and you miss a call from your boss...
Good job MS..

DavidinCT said:
That is one of my major misses from 6.5... You want to play a game quietly in your office so you turn it down to 0 or 1, but, when the phone rings you forget to turn it up and you miss a call from your boss...
Good job MS..
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Exactly, what I miss to avoid that is just a new extra setting for the ringtone in the volume/music control bar to set "loud", "normal", "vibration" or "silent". (no separate volume control, or multiple volume knobs, trackbars)

eried said:
Exactly, what I miss to avoid that is just a new extra setting for the ringtone in the volume/music control bar to set "loud", "normal", "vibration" or "silent". (no separate volume control, or multiple volume knobs, trackbars)
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I was shocked acutally when I didn't see this in Mango. I thought even at MS people would use that feature and make sure it was in mango.
Maybe it's the people who should not be playing games at their desk didn't say anything about it and that's why we dont have it

Is there a way to change volume button default to media instead of ringtone?

ia there a way to change volume button default to media instead of ringtone?
I couldn't care less if my ringtone is loud or not. I'm always just wanting to change media volume.
On previous Android devices like lg g4 and Samsung galaxy, if you are watching media, The volume button will control media by default. This doesn't seem to happen on the pixel. Quite annoying as it always just changes the ringtone volume then you have to change it by tapping on the media symbol.
Anyone know of any mods perhaps?

prot- said:
ia there a way to change volume button default to media instead of ringtone?
I couldn't care less if my ringtone is loud or not. I'm always just wanting to change media volume.
On previous Android devices like lg g4 and Samsung galaxy, if you are watching media, The volume button will control media by default. This doesn't seem to happen on the pixel. Quite annoying as it always just changes the ringtone volume then you have to change it by tapping on the media symbol.
Anyone know of any mods perhaps?
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You can try the app Rocker Locker from the Play store. That said though, when I'm playing a media file whether online or locally, pushing the volume buttons do change play volume.

quangtran1 said:
You can try the app Rocker Locker from the Play store. That said though, when I'm playing a media file whether online or locally, pushing the volume buttons do change play volume.
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It's a bit of a battery drain I hear, I found a profile in taker that does it. I'll see tasker goes battery wise.

prot- said:
ia there a way to change volume button default to media instead of ringtone?
I couldn't care less if my ringtone is loud or not. I'm always just wanting to change media volume.
On previous Android devices like lg g4 and Samsung galaxy, if you are watching media, The volume button will control media by default. This doesn't seem to happen on the pixel. Quite annoying as it always just changes the ringtone volume then you have to change it by tapping on the media symbol.
Anyone know of any mods perhaps?
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I don't assume that you are an idiot, but most people assume that I am one, or anyone else, by default. So in this spirit I will tell you that you can press a volume button, then touch a downward bracket icon, like this "^" but downward, and then change any volume you want.
If you are not an idiot, you still have to surmount your original problem. If you are, your problem is now solved. It's a win win... if you are an idiot.

nabbed said:
I don't assume that you are an idiot, but most people assume that I am one, or anyone else, by default. So in this spirit I will tell you that you can press a volume button, then touch a downward bracket icon, like this "^" but downward, and then change any volume you want.
If you are not an idiot, you still have to surmount your original problem. If you are, your problem is now solved. It's a win win... if you are an idiot.
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Lol, I know that. Just hate having to change it all the time. Tasker works well

prot- said:
ia there a way to change volume button default to media instead of ringtone?
I couldn't care less if my ringtone is loud or not. I'm always just wanting to change media volume.
On previous Android devices like lg g4 and Samsung galaxy, if you are watching media, The volume button will control media by default. This doesn't seem to happen on the pixel. Quite annoying as it always just changes the ringtone volume then you have to change it by tapping on the media symbol.
Anyone know of any mods perhaps?
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It does on mine?