Worth It With Spb Mobile Shell 3? - Touch HD Themes and Apps

i was wondering i have a standard ROM but im using Spb Mobile Shell 3 (which i love) and i was wondering would it be worthwhile updating to a custom rom?

ArmageddonAsh said:
i was wondering i have a standard ROM but im using Spb Mobile Shell 3 (which i love) and i was wondering would it be worthwhile updating to a custom rom?
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I have never tried SPB Mobile Shell 3, though updating to a custom rom generally produces more stability, better battery, more speed, reliability, memory, stableness as well as possibly some new apps or latest versions of apps included which aren't included on factory rom.
Obviously this will all depend on which rom you upgrade to as each custom rom is different.
You could possibly ask this in SPB Mobile Shell 3 thread in Themes, Applications and Software and you may get a better/more accurate response!!

Personally I don't think SPB MS looks or functions anywhere near as nice as TouchFlo BUT since getting a WM6.5 ROM on my HD I haven't used a GUI at all, I find the Today Scrren for 6.5 to be exactly what I'm after

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Be kind enough to post in correct forum

i used to have custom roms, but once i installed mobile shell 3 didn't see anything woth havin a custom rom.
i reinstalled the stoch rom ( in my native language ) and i haven't missed a thing yet. (perhaps a few newer version of the stock programs, but i think i can miss it)

HDuser said:
Moved out of Dev and into Applications.
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im sorry, as it was about custom roms i thought thats where it belonged.
at the moment im really liking Mobile Shell 3 and its features - though i may also check out what custom roms offer - as for TF3D i dont really like it -sure its okay but i much prefer mobile shell 3

ArmageddonAsh said:
im sorry, as it was about custom roms i thought thats where it belonged.
at the moment im really liking Mobile Shell 3 and its features - though i may also check out what custom roms offer - as for TF3D i dont really like it -sure its okay but i much prefer mobile shell 3
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I have and love SPBMS3, have not used TF3D for many months, I dont like how limited it is, how prescriptive, and dont like the way it presents album art at an angle, dont like the scroll thing at the bottom etc, MS is far more customisealbe. Ive been into burning custom roms for a couple of weeks now, tried about 6 of them, at the moment Dutty is my favouite, but miri and nrg are also good for me.
You get windows mobile 6.5 which gives some better functionality with menus, more finger friendly. You also get updated components, like dialers, sms modules etc, which you would not get sticking to your standard rom and SPBMS3, so i would definitely say the world of custom roms is fun and worth it.
Mark.

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HELP PLEASE Clean ROM for SPB Mobile Shell 3

I have a Diamond that my wife has just started using and she really cant get her head round TF3D as she is used to push picture favorite contacts and she cant seem to get used to the sliding around. She really doesnt need it to be fully featured as she wont surf, use facebook etc. Its just for sms, contacts and a good interface. I looked at Titanium but I dont like the UI.
SPB Mobile shell seems to be the easiest and fastest solution.
I have tried a couple of full featured 6.5 ROMS here and with SPB mobile shell installed and you generally get so little RAM left over it hangs and then she is coming back to me saying the phone is a load of rubbish.
I know there is a good usuable phone in there (its in mint condition) but need to know what ROM is recommended to do this with, ie. that TF3D is not on there, mobile shell runs, and I am not likely to hang it.
As all the threads here seem to be WM6.5 lately, does anyone think one of these will be ok, or shall I look for a 6.1. I am an avid reader of the forum and I know people hate being asked what ROM but if there is someone out there with a little experience I will really appreciate it. Even an old reliable ROM would be OK, as the SPB MS3 will be doing the work.
I have already spent the last week trying a few ROMS and they stat off OK then the hanging starts and its back to the beginning.
Try the ROM from the 1st post from here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549460
I made it for this purpose only!
donsalari said:
Try the ROM from the 1st post from here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549460
I made it for this purpose only!
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Hi. I tried your ROM from post #4 and although the RAM figures were good, I got all the SPB MS3 loaded and configured nicely, on three occasions yesterday it hung, and when I soft rest using the red button, it started again as if from a Hard Reset and I would lose everything and have to then spend another hour reinstalling again. I respect everything you do in your work but I really wonder if this phone is capable of running WM6.5.
These are what I installed:
SPB MS3
Sense Revolution 2 Theme (with mortscript and message2reg)
thumbcal
g alarm
phone canvas
This brought the RAM usage up to around 75%.
It took an age to boot up everytime and would hang very often.
I tried using it myself in TF3D and not installing anything, and found that I couldnt call anyone from the contacts menu. The only way it works is using the phone dialer.
I am currently running Benko Clean v2.0, it is super quick and is a basic 6.5 ROM, which comes with Titanium (turn it off) and loads of RAM left over for another UI
wilfmoralee said:
I am currently running Benko Clean v2.0, it is super quick and is a basic 6.5 ROM, which comes with Titanium (turn it off) and loads of RAM left over for another UI
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Its WM 6.5, though
Will this work and chew up what is a small battery even quicker?
I'm using the Aztor V2 ROM with SPB MS3. I have PUSH email on so activesync is running all the time.
I did a soft reset last around 23:00 last night, received about 8 emails and used TomTom for 30 minutes and I've got 58% program memory used. I don't get significant lag on anything. It doesn't crash (often)
Aztor V3 has just been released, I've not had chance to look at it yet though.
Check out the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422417
Generally a good ROM IMHO.
I am using Cloudy 1.3. It's very fast and light.
I suggest changing it's pagepool to 10 MB with Pagepool Changer, because it makes it a bit faster
fredfox_uk said:
I'm using the Aztor V2 ROM with SPB MS3. I have PUSH email on so activesync is running all the time.
Is this a clean /lite ROM?
Has anyone used BsB's 6.5.1A? It seems to be without TF3D.
Does anyone think that it would be better to just go to something like Dutty's V3.6b LITE, I mean I know its WM 6.1 but don't his ROMs have a reputation for stability?
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jazzdude555 said:
fredfox_uk said:
I'm using the Aztor V2 ROM with SPB MS3. I have PUSH email on so activesync is running all the time.
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Is this a clean /lite ROM?
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clean, yes, lite no.
AZTOR stand for - Alpha Zero Tweaked Official Roms - IOW Alpha Zero takes the officially released ROM (6.1) and removes the bloated rubbish and adds several tweaks to make the ROM run smoother and quicker using less memory.
Nice
The easiest way is to try some of these ROM's, I know it can take a while to reconfigure everything but it's the best way to find out which is best for your personal needs - we're all different, that's why there's (thankfully) so many cooks
The main thing is disabling TF3D/TF3D2/titanium in the settings ->today section before installing SPB3. And also, phone canvases can use up to 10mb of additional RAM. So if you're into having a ram efficient phone, don't use phone canvas, use the standard WM dialer...
As for 6.5 i was pleased with BSB... now i am using Gen.Y, with TF3D2.1 and Tachi VGA dialer (they come with the rom), plus i'm using S2U2 and i get around 30-35mb of ram free (that's 34% of ram free the most).
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As for 6.5 i was pleased with BSB... now i am using Gen.Y, with TF3D2.1 and Tachi VGA dialer (they come with the rom), plus i'm using S2U2 and i get around 30-35mb of ram free (that's 34% of ram free the most).
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I think I will give BSB a try and if it is the same I will probably go back to Duttys WM 6.1
Download the 6.5R edition. That's the non 6.5.1 version. The latest version is a bit...unstable. I have just flashed it and i already think i don't like it. Download pre-last version - my opinion.
jazzdude555 said:
Hi. I tried your ROM from post #4 and although the RAM figures were good, I got all the SPB MS3 loaded and configured nicely, on three occasions yesterday it hung, and when I soft rest using the red button, it started again as if from a Hard Reset and I would lose everything and have to then spend another hour reinstalling again. I respect everything you do in your work but I really wonder if this phone is capable of running WM6.5.
These are what I installed:
SPB MS3
Sense Revolution 2 Theme (with mortscript and message2reg)
thumbcal
g alarm
phone canvas
This brought the RAM usage up to around 75%.
It took an age to boot up everytime and would hang very often.
I tried using it myself in TF3D and not installing anything, and found that I couldnt call anyone from the contacts menu. The only way it works is using the phone dialer.
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Hey bro i clearly said that try the rom from "POST NUMBER 1"
I am using Shaks.P v4.30 rom with SPB shell and there are no hangings at all, it is fast and very stable with 58.88MB free RAM after restart with running SPB shell, Gyrator and I am using PhonEx dialer.
I've tried a lot of roms and always came back to this one witch is reliable.
donsalari said:
Hey bro i clearly said that try the rom from "POST NUMBER 1"
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But if Free Ram is important isn't the Version2.0 ROM's in Post # 2 better? Or does post boot up the Ram usage go up? Maybe I am missing something
[Version 3.2]
After installing the ROM :
Free main memory : 140.37 MB
Free RAM (At boot up) :45%
Version 3.2 [28 August 2009] [Re-Edited]
After installing the ROM :
Free main memory : 128.00 MB
Free RAM (At boot up) :58%
Version 2.0 [22 August 2009]
After installing the ROM :
Free main memory : 127.00 MB
Free RAM (At boot up) :59%
If I was giving my phone to someone else I'd put the stock ROM back on it... everything's guaranteed to work as HTC intended that way, and it's how I'd want a phone given to me by someone else.
Another Vote for BsB 6.5R. I'm Currently using it with SPB Mobile Shell 3.
About 47MB Free RAM After everything is up and Super speed!
qmt49 said:
If I was giving my phone to someone else I'd put the stock ROM back on it... everything's guaranteed to work as HTC intended that way, and it's how I'd want a phone given to me by someone else.
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I agree with you, and I tried that too, but it is the wifes first excursion into HTC land and she just found all the sliding around a bit cumbersome on the Diamond Screen. Hence a simple ROM, no bells and whistles, with a simple SPB MS3 interface, that is push button and there.
Unfortunately, the only customization you can do with TF3D is rearrange the tabs, delete some of them and slide the people tab up and down for favourites. If there was a way to have the favourite contacts page (with push button pictures) instead of the scrolling. The 'Programs' tab make it better but that is it.
I am an HD user and with WM6.5 and I love TF3D with latest Manilla, and I would have put that on the Diamond too, but the poor Diamond is just not up to running WM6.5, TF3D, Manilla 2.1 and be able to use the camera or browse albums, there isn't enough RAM or processing power. She will be handing it to me every 5 mins and asking 'what's it trying to do now?'
donsalari said:
Hey bro i clearly said that try the rom from "POST NUMBER 1"
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Since I posted another thread has popped up which may explain the instability issues.
see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546824
I use Shaks.P v4.30 rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462455
Disable TF3D, use SPB mobile shell 3.0 with Sence la Révolution V2.
Installer a lot of program.
My diamond no hang n no restart, very very stable.
I think maybe u should flash again, after flash, don restore old system data into new rom, just restore contact only.
For girl purpose, u should install some game too

htc hd2 touchflo on at&t tilt2

I am a little new to XDA...but I cant really find a straight answer to a question I have.
I just purchased the tilt2...love it. Unfortunately, I watched videos on the new hd2, and while I don't want the phone....gotta have my keyboard....I think a couple of the touchflo tabs make MUCH more sense.
So basically, I am wondering if cooks on here feel that at some point they will be able to offer some of those features in .cab files?
I dont want a whole new rom, I tried that on my original tilt...and it just never worked perfect, gps problems, some menus didnt look right. I really just want the phone to work perfectly like at&t intended...but with the new contacts tab, email tab, and maybe the new home screen that allows weather backgrounds and I believe allows a couple contacts straight on it.
Anyway...based on how people have been able to pull apart software for these phones...does this sound possible? or is touchflo simply too complicated to only pull parts of it out? I wouldnt want to simply entirely replace my at&t tilt 2 touchflo version with the hd2 version because I have heard that you would lose landscape mode for touchflo?
Anyway...just wondering if I can hope for this...or if I simply need to accept what I have until the touch pro 3 comes out?
p.s. I am assuming I would need that new version for what I wanted..unless hacks are possible? Basically I love the new email tab that allows you to read your emails right from there instead of showing them in an envelope.
I like the new contacts tab much better....more functional than that rotating carousel thing.
New today screen is nice with the weather background...and I like the idea of contacts on that screen.
No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.
skyler17 said:
No, you aren't going be able to change your TF3D with a simple .cab file.
It would require the flashing of a new ROM.
the HD2 'Sense' interface is Manila 2.5 and is in many ROMs over at the development section. Since Manila 2.5 is only designed for the HD2, when using the interface there is no landscape support for when the keyboard is slid out.
No one in xda-deveolopers has shown the ability to be able to take some features from Manila 2.1 and mix them with 2.5. If they could, I'm sure HTC would hire them in a heartbeat. HTC has an entire team of paid workers that create the Manilas. It takes time and skill and LOTS of work.
I would recommend just flashing a good Manila 2.1 ROM. Get rid of your AT&T bloatware. NGRZ's Photon ROM (in my signature) is a good place to start. It is very fast, stable, and comes preloaded with a ton of useful apps.
You will have less problems with his ROM than AT&T's stock ROM.
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Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.
acolona said:
Thank you for the response...I figured that was the case.
So let me ask you...I am very nervous about flashing the ROM on my brand new expensive phone. My main concerns:
1. Is their an easy way to go back to the stock setup?
2. When i flashed my first tilt, I had radio problems that never really got fixed
3. What advantage does that ROM have over the stock...other than space? I find the stock ROM has pretty decent speed honestly
4. My main concern: I don't like losing any of the functionality of the stock ROM...I actually like the default ATT opera page, etc.
5. If I could find a ROM that would simply remove things like the ATT mall, but otherwise leave everything else stock..and work just as good as stock...gps, opera, keyboard mapping, etc. I would do it. Oh...I wouldnt mind having custom wallpaper on all tabs.
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Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.
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Here's some feedback:
1. Right now, no -- since the Tilt2 has just been released, many folks are waiting for someone to successfully dump the stock ROM in case we need to go back.
2. Many of the custom ROMs do not include a new radio -- you'll just have to read up and decide which ones you like.
3. Every custom ROM has a different advantage. In some cases its visual, in other cases speed, stability, and some are just highly experimental with features taken from other phones.
4/5. Again since the Tilt2 is so new, give it a little time. Usually there are some chefs who feel the same way you do and will use a stock ROM and just make minor tweaks like taking out some unnecessary bloat and adding some useful programs.
I would recommend if the stock ROM is working ok for you, to stick with it for the time being until some more ATT specific ROMs start getting developed and you find one that will suit your individual needs.
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4/5. Perfect, thats a great answer for me. I think that's what I really want is a stock ROM with some tweaks for speed and bloat.
A. Does a stock tweaked ROM usually mean I dont need to worry about fiddling with radios? and the GPS and stuff works just like stock?
B. Any specific ROM chefs that you know of that I should follow that typically do these types of ROMs?
oh..this is unrelated, but does anyone know why I am having issues running software that seems to work fine on other touch pro 2's...I keep getting errors about .net versions being wrong. I tried installing the .net compact package from Microsoft..but it just says it fails during install. This is kind of a pain because I can't get some really common apps to install.

N00B question about ROMs (not asking for advice!).

So, I've been trying to decide whose, if any, ROM to install, and to that end I've been looking at some of the kitchen software to see how they're made. It looks to me as if the ROMs are really just collections of available software with certain customizations. They don't seem like truly reverse-engineered, hacked versions of Windows Mobile. For one thing, no offense meant, but the number of people capable of disassembling WM and hacking it can't be that large. Setting registry keys is one thing; rewriting the code is something else. Yet there seem to be dozens of ROMs.
Am I wrong here? Are these ROMs really hacked versions of WM, or are they just variant collections of software with different settings and customizations?
EWAdams said:
So, I've been trying to decide whose, if any, ROM to install, and to that end I've been looking at some of the kitchen software to see how they're made. It looks to me as if the ROMs are really just collections of available software with certain customizations. They don't seem like truly reverse-engineered, hacked versions of Windows Mobile. For one thing, no offense meant, but the number of people capable of disassembling WM and hacking it can't be that large. Setting registry keys is one thing; rewriting the code is something else. Yet there seem to be dozens of ROMs.
Am I wrong here? Are these ROMs really hacked versions of WM, or are they just variant collections of software with different settings and customizations?
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I shouldn't be answering 'cause I don't know much....
...but I think your characterization is more-or-less correct.
AFAIK, since WM is not open source, nobody re-writes the WM guts of these roms...nor re-writes HTC Sense.
The Windows Mobile Development and Hacking board probably has definitive answers.
EWAdams said:
So, I've been trying to decide whose, if any, ROM to install, and to that end I've been looking at some of the kitchen software to see how they're made. It looks to me as if the ROMs are really just collections of available software with certain customizations. They don't seem like truly reverse-engineered, hacked versions of Windows Mobile. For one thing, no offense meant, but the number of people capable of disassembling WM and hacking it can't be that large. Setting registry keys is one thing; rewriting the code is something else. Yet there seem to be dozens of ROMs.
Am I wrong here? Are these ROMs really hacked versions of WM, or are they just variant collections of software with different settings and customizations?
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You are correct, these ROMs take what the Chef considers the best of various versions and combines them, plus they add the extra (free) tools that they deem to be the best. Then they cook them together and tweak the results until it is stable for the target device. So it is "pick and choose" components, based on a specific WM 6.x version.
stevedebi said:
You are correct, these ROMs take what the Chef considers the best of various versions and combines them, plus they add the extra (free) tools that they deem to be the best. Then they cook them together and tweak the results until it is stable for the target device. So it is "pick and choose" components, based on a specific WM 6.x version.
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Thanks for the clarification. That being the case, I won't bust butt trying to pick a new ROM as long as I'm happy with what I've got.
EWAdams said:
Thanks for the clarification. That being the case, I won't bust butt trying to pick a new ROM as long as I'm happy with what I've got.
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Well...the stock rom is fine if you like it. But the best custom roms do have some significant differences -- improvements, in many opinions -- over the stock rom....more than just reg tweaks. No, not modifications to the actual WM code, but significant things that make a difference in speed, etc. I'm not a rom cook, so I can't tell you exactly how or what. But as a rom user I know what I like.
I have no interest in trying to convince anyone...just sayin.
How did you choose yours?
MCbrian said:
Well...the stock rom is fine if you like it. But the best custom roms do have some significant differences -- improvements, in many opinions -- over the stock rom....more than just reg tweaks. No, not modifications to the actual WM code, but significant things that make a difference in speed, etc. I'm not a rom cook, so I can't tell you exactly how or what. But as a rom user I know what I like.
I have no interest in trying to convince anyone...just sayin.
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Speed and battery life are what I'm chiefly interested in, and you can usually improve both by clobbering unnecessary background processes. I want a system that's lean and mean.
I see you use Valkyrie. What made you choose that one in particular? Just curious.
EWAdams said:
Thanks for the clarification. That being the case, I won't bust butt trying to pick a new ROM as long as I'm happy with what I've got.
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I use Energy ROMS, and he cooks in lots of neat extras. For example, Total Commander is cooked in, and there are several other utilities and applications, like the GPS tools that test the GPS connection.
I do find that I have to tweak the battery, advanced settings, and B&B Tweaks to get the battery life where I want. But the ROM is really great for usability.
EWAdams said:
Speed and battery life are what I'm chiefly interested in, and you can usually improve both by clobbering unnecessary background processes. I want a system that's lean and mean.
I see you use Valkyrie. What made you choose that one in particular? Just curious.
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Newcomers to Valky roms usually comment on how fast it is -- "wow yow" and all that. I've been an exclusively-Valky user for so long -- 5 or 6 months -- that I don't really have anything to compare it to anymore...but it certainly seems plenty fast. And the new releases are definitely faster than those from, say, a couple of months ago. I should mention that I only run Valky versions that are based on WM6.5.5 with Sense 2.5, so I can't comment on other flavors.
I'd say that rom-cook agent_47's Valkyrie roms are a little more spare -- less stuff built in -- than NRGZ28's NRG roms...and that's fine with me -- may help speed.
I also have to say that cook agent_47 genuinely seems like a nice guy. If people post bug-reports he posts fixes ASAP (as much as his school duties permit)...instead of telling them to bggr-off. I'm not saying other chefs aren't helpful...just that agent_47 is particularly so. And that matters to me.
After a long time on one cook's rom, people (me, but not just me) get so used to that cooks style that another rom may objectively be as-good-or-better but it won't seem so because it's different than what one is used to. I discovered this when a long-time NRG user and I "swapped" roms and tried the other guy's fave. Neither of us could stand it for long (like, less than a day) and switched back to the rom-line to which we'd become accustomed.
Thanks for the info. Alas, I have a Sprint CDMA phone, and it doesn't look as if the Valkyrie ROM is available for it. Guess I'll have to check out the Energy ROM.
I tried my first ROM yesterday (Energy) and the difference is night and day. It is honestly like a new phone....snappy and clean...heck it looks better than the SPB shell which I bought too quickly instead of trying ROMS first lol
shaolin95 said:
I tried my first ROM yesterday (Energy) and the difference is night and day. It is honestly like a new phone....snappy and clean...heck it looks better than the SPB shell which I bought too quickly instead of trying ROMS first lol
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It also uses way more memory than Mobile shell.
Personally, though I own MS and download NRG CHT 2.5, I disable all of them and simply use SPB Pocket Plus. Not flashy, but very functional.
If I weren't using that, I would use SPB Mobile shell - but you have to customize it to fit YOUR needs, or the capabilities are wasted. Also, check out Vostradamus application to customize the MS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574264
OK, next stupid question.
Flashing a ROM replaces the registry, so you need to have all your tweaks backed up. I'm cool with that -- I can export particular keys that I care about. But does it wipe ALL your files and applications as well? If so, I don't understand these people who flash ROMs all the time -- I would think they would be perpetually reinstalling their apps and restoring from backup. I'd love to fool around with two or three different ROMs, but not if I'm going to be putting everything back on the phone each time I install a ROM.
EWAdams said:
Flashing a ROM replaces the registry, so you need to have all your tweaks backed up. I'm cool with that -- I can export particular keys that I care about. But does it wipe ALL your files and applications as well? If so, I don't understand these people who flash ROMs all the time -- I would think they would be perpetually reinstalling their apps and restoring from backup. I'd love to fool around with two or three different ROMs, but not if I'm going to be putting everything back on the phone each time I install a ROM.
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Yes you lose all your programs and files. But only the files that are stored on your phone memory. Not the ones on the SD card.
Most roms have some sort of autoinstall. This way the apps will be installed automatic.
stevedebi said:
It also uses way more memory than Mobile shell.
Personally, though I own MS and download NRG CHT 2.5, I disable all of them and simply use SPB Pocket Plus. Not flashy, but very functional.
If I weren't using that, I would use SPB Mobile shell - but you have to customize it to fit YOUR needs, or the capabilities are wasted. Also, check out Vostradamus application to customize the MS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574264
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Well, it may use more memory as you say but the end result is the same to me, a better looking , faster, snappier phone so more or less memory, it still beats the crap out of my previous configuration.
EWAdams said:
Flashing a ROM replaces the registry, so you need to have all your tweaks backed up. I'm cool with that -- I can export particular keys that I care about. But does it wipe ALL your files and applications as well? If so, I don't understand these people who flash ROMs all the time -- I would think they would be perpetually reinstalling their apps and restoring from backup. I'd love to fool around with two or three different ROMs, but not if I'm going to be putting everything back on the phone each time I install a ROM.
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As other post suggested, some/many roms support an automatic-restore function call "User Customization" -- UC for short. It works such that after the new-rom-flash is complete UC reinstalls all of your apps and saved registry settings from a couple of folders on your sd card. I've only used the version that comes with the Valkyrie roms, "Silent UC", and it works fine, automatically, without requiring input from me.
There's another type of app/everything-restoring app called Sashimi. It's more-powerful, but I haven't bothered to learn it as silentUC works well for my purposes.
MCbrian said:
As other post suggested, some/many roms support an automatic-restore function call "User Customization" -- UC for short. It works such that after the new-rom-flash is complete UC reinstalls all of your apps and saved registry settings from a couple of folders on your sd card. I've only used the version that comes with the Valkyrie roms, "Silent UC", and it works fine, automatically, without requiring input from me.
There's another type of app/everything-restoring app called Sashimi. It's more-powerful, but I haven't bothered to learn it as silentUC works well for my purposes.
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Many thanks. It looks as if it's just a question of having the CAB files available on the SD card, and a configuration file. Sounds pretty straightforward, although presumably I have to find all the keys that my applications set in the registry, too, and turn them into CAB files. Is that what you do?
Also gotta find out how to extract CAB files from desktop Windows .EXE installers... I know that's around here somewhere...
EWAdams said:
I have to find all the keys that my applications set in the registry, too, and turn them into CAB files. Is that what you do?
Also gotta find out how to extract CAB files from desktop Windows .EXE installers... I know that's around here somewhere...
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For the registry entries, yes, you can convert to .cabs, or -- with Silent UC, at least -- just save/export them as .reg files and it will put them where they're supposed to go when it runs on the new rom.
Winrar or 7zip will open/extract .exe files and if there's a .cab inside you can get it that way.
shaolin95 said:
Well, it may use more memory as you say but the end result is the same to me, a better looking , faster, snappier phone so more or less memory, it still beats the crap out of my previous configuration.
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Actually, I find it also uses a lot more battery as well.
The latest NRG ROM goes below 60 MB available RAM when loaded with the programs I use. That isn't enough if one is going to use Opera 9.7 as a browser for any length of time.
Of course, it depends on what your particular likes/dislikes are, and the things which matter to you. That is the nice thing about burning ROMs - there are so many from which to choose.
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Actually, I find it also uses a lot more battery as well.
The latest NRG ROM goes below 60 MB available RAM when loaded with the programs I use. That isn't enough if one is going to use Opera 9.7 as a browser for any length of time.
Of course, it depends on what your particular likes/dislikes are, and the things which matter to you. That is the nice thing about burning ROMs - there are so many from which to choose.
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Indeed...always nice to have choices.
I am addicted to the Energy Roms, they work the best for me and I tend to stick with the Titanium based roms without any Sense. Not because I don't like the Sense UI, but because the Titanium roms are so much more snappy and the battery life is fantastic.

My Final Solution to ROMs

Hey guys, you might have seen I have posted on here requesting help with ROMs and suggestions for which ones and so on. Now, I'm gonna attempt to help everyone else out there. I use my phone a lot (mainly between texting and internet), and here is my breakdown of various UI's
Sense - great looks, however it slows down very fast after only receiving a few texts and emails. People who go easy on there phones would like this.
Titanium - Simple, probably one of the fastest, responsive, overall great. However I found the usage of it to be kinda harder because you don't have as many options on the Today page. Yes this is customize able, but I went away from it. I wanted something that was all there.
MaxSense - This looks AMAZING. When I first saw someone post something about it a couple weeks ago I looked into it and I basically loved it. However, at this point it is still glitchy and buggy. I would love to see how it looks like in a month or two! Also, I can't add as many widgets as I would have liked too. Don't get me wrong this is an amazing work in progress! I mean, hey, It's free, I can't really complain am i right? haha
SPB Mobile Shell - My dad bought this a while ago, and I asked him to install it. It was basically MaxSense, but not nearly as buggy and it didn't take up as much memory AND there are more availability for widgets! Down side, you got to bust out 30 dollars for it. I am now looking into customizing SPB and options are looking good. Also, for Mobile Shell, I flashed a clean rom to let it run faster. Also, I use wm6.5.5 with the Start menu at the bottom, I am looking for a "widget" that would emulate the Start menu because It doesnt show at the bottom due to Mobile Shell's interface which overlaps it. I realized you don't really need to use it, but it would be kinda nice. Currently I am looking for the Slide Clock (like the Android/Sense clock) as opposed to the standard Mobile SHell clock. Links would be nice guys
Everything has its ups and downs, I hope I helped some people out there in an easy breakdown of what I have gone through the past month or so.
this might be something you are interested in...it is my favorite SPB theme/skin/widget pack.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604146
There is more to just a good ROM than just which home screen you use.
redpoint73 said:
There is more to just a good ROM than just which home screen you use.
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Yeah, well I meant like the general categories of ROMs, woops
NRGZ rom with spb or deepshining?
Hey guys,
Currently waiting for NRGZ's rom with maxsense to finish downloading. I'm running the latest deepshining rom and was wondering do you think my rhodeo 300 would be faster if I loaded spb shell with energy rom?
Or should I just keep shining and run spb shell over that?
If i were you I would just run something cleaner over it. For example, the Energy Titanium ROM. But if you like the apps and stuff on DeepShining and don't want to change, thats one thing. Just a suggestion. Good luck
I use default WM today and since then I dont have problems with speed or memory...
This is exactly my thinking. I really like the Spb Shell because it has the left and right scroll like Android. I love wallpaper, so I only applied widgets to the left and right home screens. Since I had flashed my first rom, I had been looking for a clean rom to run Spb Shell on. I really wanted to try Freyberry's Barebone but have not found a working link yet. Anyway, I'm using Energy MaxSense and I like it alot. It has the scrolling wallpaper which is key for me . Besides the preinstalled widgets it only lets you add 3 other widgets I believe. Spb let's you turn all icons into widgets. It would be great if you could more thoroughly integrate the shell into the rom, not just preinstall it. I look forward to your rom and will be among the first to try it.
With all that said, what ROM would you suggest as a "clean" ROM to run SPB MS on? And what exactly is "clean"? Obviously I need messaging, GPS, camera, and many of the other pre-installed software. I'm new to this.
kfreels said:
With all that said, what ROM would you suggest as a "clean" ROM to run SPB MS on? And what exactly is "clean"? Obviously I need messaging, GPS, camera, and many of the other pre-installed software. I'm new to this.
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By clean I think most people think "bug free and runs smooth"
I have heard that the Jacko "old school" ROM is pretty clean. NRG sometimes makes a "Titanium" ROM that does not have Sense cooked in, I have used that one with Mobile Shell with good results. He only burns it occasionally, but whatever is out there should be OK to use.
kfreels said:
With all that said, what ROM would you suggest as a "clean" ROM to run SPB MS on? And what exactly is "clean"? Obviously I need messaging, GPS, camera, and many of the other pre-installed software. I'm new to this.
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I'm new to this forum myself. I guess 'clean' is a generic term, but what I mean by clean is free of all unnecessary clutter because I'm sure that Spb Shell will consume it's fair share of ram. Of course, what is 'clutter' is determined by the indivdual. I want it to run as close to a native OS as possible without interference.

'Optimising' the Touch Pro 2 (WITHOUT FLASHING!)

Ok, i cant flash my Orange branded Touch Pro 2. SOOOOOO....
I have searched for the absolutly best way to get the ultimate performance from my device. Whether its the Orange ROM (WM6.5) or some wee glitch with my phone, ive had issues. I find Sense slow and buggy and have been plagued with freezes and having to rest several times every day. Battery performance has been poor and in general a fantastic machine just wasnt cutting the mustard (even went back to my Kaiser for a while).
The problems seem to be common enough tbh.
Anyway with just a few differences my machine has become the chalk against the previous cheese. A hard rest and forgetting about Sense was the start. Ive replaced it with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.5. Combined with obvious backlight time adjustments, and a few 'Advanced Config' tweaks, my Touch Pro 2 has just become a different machine!
Much more smooth and resets just arent necessary.
Ive sacraficed Opera for the latest Opera Mini. More than adequate for my purposes and the interface is actually handier to use for people whos internet access is concentrated on just a few sites/ forums.
Im not on here advertising SPB by the way, just what ive found myself!
Unless you are a massive super user, i dont find the need for OCT or the like. I use MSM most of the day, regular Opera Mini, heavy SMS and occasional Word Mobile and find hte above arrangement brilliant.
Has anyone else any suggestions in the same vein that can help even more?? I am, and im sure most users are, open to minor tweaks. Flashing is a no go.
Q
I prefer CHT with OCT. My device absolutely flies. When it begins to lag a bit after using more than 5 apps, I just CleanRAM custom. Works like a charm. I have found that the device will work at maximum performance when installing everything to the Storage Card. Having all the RAM available for the OS keeps it faster for me. It seems that there is a performance difference when you have 70Gb as opposed to 50Gb. CleanRAM really is the greatest thing for this device.
I tried SPB Shell a few months ago, but I think CHT is much better. Theres way more customization and I find it easier to navigate. You just put your favorite apps in 3 pages. The Shell had things needlessly in different locations and into sub categories. It just didn't suit me.
use these roms. energy reference or titanium. theyre smooth and easy
http://hotfile.com/list/599461/c264c05
Quincey113 said:
Ok, i cant flash my Orange branded Touch Pro 2. SOOOOOO....
I have searched for
.... .....
most users are, open to minor tweaks. Flashing is a no go.
Q
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uncleswoop said:
use these roms. energy reference or titanium. theyre smooth and easy
http://hotfile.com/list/599461/c264c05
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lol
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I was trying to use a modded HTC Home plugin with HTC Home Customizer but ran up against too many problems, so I've returned to Sense for now. I'm hoping to flash a new ROM sometime soon, once I've reinstalled XP and 7 on my PC (I've only got Vista left as running normally, and dislike it too much to rely on it). I've also installed SPB shell on my wife's Acer e200, so was considering it, but I want to finish running some tests with the graphics drivers available here, with sense vs. sense turned off and some minor media playback issues first.
oh, i should have said. flashing is pretty much ur only way to improve what you want.
soooo.... if flash is a no go... new device maybe?

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