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It wuold be very nice if someone write a comparison table (pro,cons,features,speed,stability,impressions...) of roms actually availables:
- tom BB 4.1
- meschle Artemis Touch 1.0 WWE Full
- meschle O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE
- Fracoon ROM NewArtemis 1.0 BetaTest Beta2
What do you think about?
TY Guys for your work.
bye
That would be nice; I only tried B&B 4.0 and I am about to upgrade to B&B 4.1.
It would be great to hear from the other people that tried different builds to see what their opinion is.
Add a poll, the results will be more clear.
i tried all Rom :
1)-- Fracoon ROM NewArtemis 1.0 BetaTest Beta2 : Fast but not Stable else have many problem
2)-- meschle O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE : Stable,Fast but not Touch Flo Cube
3)-- meschle Artemis Touch 1.0 WWE Full : Stable , have Support Touch Flo cube but used old Build ( Original Build )
4)-- Tom BB 4.1 : New Build Based .So fast and Stable, Update many new Applications and have TFSetting Tool by Tom.U can change Button Free Active Touch Flo cube ( Love it )
1+2+3+4 ===> I using V4.1 and love it..
Cheers..!
Totally agree with capital, previous post. I'm just after installation of Tom's B&B 4.1, switched from meschle Artemis Touch 1.0 WWE Full. I'v had before meschle O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE and the first beta of Fracoon ROM NewArtemis 1.0 BetaTest Beta2.
I'm impressed with Tom's B&B 4.1. Finally I'v got A LOT of RAM memory, it runs very fast (I'm using wisbar advance and wisbar advance desktop with it), but switched off the cube - not necessary with htc home today plugin, where I'v got all the shortcuts.
Configuration in every ROM is taking me about 2-3h, I'm after this right now and I must say, I found my OS for the next...month or so.
Tom's Black & Blue 4.1, totally amazing. Much, much better than B&B 4.0. That's my opinion. Good work Tom .
Guess I am going with B&B 4.1 Lite (all the goodies and stable) .... the other one I have liked so far was Artemis Touch 1.0 WWE (very stable), Lite version as well.
I can just confirm the above. BB4.1 full at the moment without any problems
Yes, Tom's 4.1 seems working very well. Didn't try meschle's Rom's (but i downloaded them...who knows ?! ).
Fracoons Rom (beta2) was running stable but i installed too much apps so the filexplorer sometimes hang up for approx. 1 minute...perhaps it was my fault. I don't know...
Tom's 4.1 has the most flexible tool to handle Tochflo (enable/disable TouchFlo, Scrolling, Scrolling sound) and changing finger-activation is very easy with this ROM. The only "bug" i found is in BatteryStatus: When you select "Row1" it disappears, but that's not a problem for me and i think it's easily changable with the xml file ?
At the beginning i hated the colored HTC home, but now i like it. IMHO It's better when you're outside to recognitize the differnt buttons. And Memory....it's amazing...when you start the phone there are about 29 mb free (program) and about 40mb free (storage) ! I never had this with other ROMs (anybody else?)
Vote now!
New pool started!
Hi,
I'm verry happy with Tom's B&B V4.1 (only blacklight problem...but it's not important for me)
I tried:
- Fracoon's rom -> not stable, of course, it's a beta!!!
- Meschle's rom with TF(Full) -> Stable, but i had problems with Hbuttons...think because of me (i'm still a newbie...just see when i join this forum)
- aje_fr's rom -> not stable for me (i had some problems with some programs)
As i am a french newbie, sorry for my english and i'm still waiting for an amazing french rom
There are 2 most importants things for me :
First, is that I want to say THANK YOU for all rom's cookers : without them, my artemis device would stay in stony age
Second, it's not so important to compare roms because it depends on our feelings and we are all different!!!
Cheers
PS: thx XDA !!!!!!! apologize me if i've forgotten some one
The Sweetest Thing...
You know what, no matter which ROM gets the popular vote the real winner is freedom of choice.
Having foolishly tied myself to O2 ROMs for too long to be 'safe', I can now pick from any of these excellent ROMs.
In recent weeks I have gone from an O2 Orbit that I couldn't wait to upgrade because it was slow and unreliable to a brand new Artemis that is fast, fun, functional, flexible and funky...I only keep the cube on there to impress my mates...and it sure as hell does that!
bb4.1
Hi i tried bb3.7,4.0 and lite from Meschle's.After using all I have to say Tom's 4.1 is the best
Meschle Artemis Touch 1.0 WWE LITE - all the way.
Tried B&B 4.1 and it was way too buggy for me, too unstable, kept having to softreset.
Had Meschles Artemis Touch 1.0 WWE LITE, and its perfect, fast not as much ram but still great.
I've voted for the 4.1 BUT I must say that in the last few days i had to do a lot of resets I have the feeling that 4.1 isn't faster than 4.0 and when I'm connected to my pc and active sync is working I can't do anything anymore on 4.1 while with 4.0 everything was still working
But one big plus with 4.1 for me is the camera (gps, movie, contacts and dir) is working again.
So for now I stay with 4.1!!!
Hmmm who should i vote for - i cant decide.
Poll will need updating as i release o2 premier plus rom soon
btw thanks for all that have voted for my roms its encourages me to continue cooking.
i love my DUTCH rom
hi all...
i love my own created dutch rom...
i know it has some bug but i am busy with it...
(windows mobile 6 DUTCH on artemis mda tmobile compact 3)
see u
M.
Meschle rocks!
Just casted my vote...
I must say that the rom produced by Meschle is the best one yet on my Artemis. The Artemis Touch 1.0 WWE FULL!
I like it for it's stability, no glitches whatsoever, and all the cool apps already inside it! It makes working with my pda so much fun! I tried Fracoon's rom which was also very good. Tom's rom is a bit faster, but for me it isn't as sweet as Meschle's.
But I also want to say that I recognize the hard work that ALL the wizards put in the creation of their rom's.
How lucky are we - fellow forumers -that we have the luxary of choosing between all these great rom's. Great work you guys, and thank you all!
have only tested 4.0 and 4.1 and like 4.0 way better . great rom
I,ve tested all of them...
anyway they are all great... but the best for me is:
meschle Touch WWE 1.0 lite
Why?
a) absolute stable
b) bugfree
c) perfect service by meschle
d) all in it what i need
e) much free rom
f) fast enough (not the quickest)
g) I can arrange it the way I like... latest Pocket CM and Keyboard....
h) no problems with any other software like batterystatus.
Look and read meschle´s thread and you know what I mean...
A perfect rom for me
Cheers and regards Anja31
I'm not Cube'ist, some of my best friends are cubes!
Meschle [NEW ROM] O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE
Stable, faster than original its based on! and no bugs for me
Also not having the cube but still looking good is a winner for me.
Now Meschle is teasing with talk of a new o2 premier plus so things can only get better
But still much cred to the other chefs
Version BETA-WM6.5 ROM V39 for HTC Artemis & Love:
- Development based on V38 introduced.
- Integration and change the appropriate OEM from HTC Iolita
- Change the XIP and SYS from WM6.5 Beta (Build 21159.5.0.0) is collected from sources ROM from XBETA.
- The featured WM6.5 as MS has introduced in recent years.
This is a TEST version of the ROM, not integrated Manila2D, featured for WM6.5 include, but added:
- HTC Album
- HTC Audio Manager
and applications of others.
link:http://rs568.rapidshare.com/files/200389629/ARTE_WM6.5__3_15_122_39.rar
passwordhamQuang
Downloading, will flash tonight..
I have great respect for Mr Phang Quang and PDAVIET.
I will see how this compares to DJ 6.5 m2d. Big thanks.
wrong password
The rar file is not accepting the given password.
try PhamQuang
wrong password
Thanks! it worked.
Installing right now. In 20 min. I will post feedback
Stable of all the 6.5 Versions
This version looks to be more stable off all the other 3 versions of 6.5.
Keyboard is Very Pathetic. I liked the Keyboard used by Achilles.
And camera version is older version that Achilles ROM.
Also the Media Players Plays each song for 40secs Only then jumPs to next song.
Need to Edit registry for running the Audio Manager when Screen Is off.
Battery Drains of very Fast. Not even one day......
It's not usable, slow very slow for me
this rom is too slow for me
mobile error
hi i have to say nice rom i had to overclock mine to 273 then it run sweet as a nut but the sim manager needs seeing to as when i wanted to put my contacts from sim to phone it only seen afew of them so i tryed to refresh and then it comes up with mobile error everytime please sort this out thanks i think this rom is very good just alittle bug thanks for the work
can't install.
the colored screen apears and then it sais that the phone is not conected.
htc_diak said:
can't install.
the colored screen apears and then it sais that the phone is not conected.
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I'm flashing this rom. did you take out your sim card and TF card of your phone?
no. i never did that when flashing.
Plz upload this rom other than Rapidshare.com
marsel said:
this rom is too slow for me
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guys and gals,
not to tick you off,
but i for sure am an old artemis freak, even having tried an iphone 2g the last week, I honestly have to say meschles vanilla 4.02 is the one and only fast, stable and simply usable rom i have tried upto now - all m2d roms are sluggish in comparison- espacially when runnung tomtom7, all wm 6.5 rom-regardless of the radio rom used- drain my p330 within 2days, where under vanilla4.02 i run a solid 7 days routine...
so as i posted in my plea-thread-- any bare 6.5 rom upto beating 4.02?
greetz
Nice rom!
This rom is better than others windows 6.5...
Sorry for my english!
This Rom has lovely looking menus and window effects, but this contributes to heavy use of RAM and some slow-downs. Unfortunately, changing a theme seemed to lose these lovely menus.
The Titanium plugin works well, particularly with a changed background.
A good keyboard and dialler.
Shame about the old camera.
Lovely Icons.
The Honeycomb programs selector will take some getting used to, if it does become the Standard.
This could have been a contender to DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL if it wasn't for RAM issues and slow-downs.
iDoktor said:
Nice rom!
This rom is better than others windows 6.5...
Sorry for my english!
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Hello,
what Includes this ROM?
RS is kinna hssle here, looking for mirrors, plz.
Hi,
I found this new rom from PDAVIET.
Here's the link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/203587319/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_46__B21169.rar
Password: PhamQuang
Who wants to try?
Beta 47 just posted...
If anyone is interested...
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
Same password as above.
Have you tried the rom yet?
Any chance of some more info and screen shots?
Cheers
Beta 47 initial review
Although i am not a big fan of M2D, and V47 is M2D rom, I am going to give it a try. I am running it for few minutes only, so i can't give any real feedback, besides the obvious. First- WM6.5 (M2D off) takes about 28M RAM, and since the page pool is set to 6M, there are only 48M RAM to begin with. This gives only 20M of free RAM. Kind of low than i want, but considering WM6.5 it was expected. With M2D on (as set as default) there are only 12M free RAM. That is BEFORE trying to have anything else, or changing tabs...
Phone wakes up with wrong time and date (not a big deal) , and finds the right network nice (I am in the US). One graphic bug is obvious- task manager and X button are too big, and cover the clock on the top right corner of the upper bar.
Free memory (applications) after installation (nothing added) is 48.22M total, of which 4.74M are taken. Pretty low, considering other roms with 70M. I guess M2D and the new WM are bigger.
I have changed page pool to 4M, gaining extra 2M RAM, and it seems to be stable and fast enough for my needs. 51M RAM, of which 18.55M free with M2D on, and 20M RAM.
The next step I took was trying to sync time using the tool called 'Synchro time'. As soon as I did, a pop-up message told me the rom is a 7 day trial, and right after that I have a 'screen of death' on my phone telling me: "that concludes the beta test of the software..."
I don't know if this is because of the time sync or not. I had to hard reset the phone and start all over, hoping it will not happen again that soon..
I let M2D run, not doing anything on the phone. After 15 minutes I was left with 12M of free RAM. I have installed SKTools, set shadow RAM cleaning, and optimized for maximum memory. Soft reset the phone and it starts with 18.46M free RAM with M2D, 20.51M without. Too low for my taste. using free-up RAM by SKTools gives 23M free if M2D is off.
As for the bee-hive shape of WM6.5 - I find it annoying. applications change location on you, and there is not logical sequence where they will be. I had to scroll 3 pages to find an application, and the scroll isn't smooth. Also- on pop-up windows - the OK button on the top right is missing, but pushing the corner where it suppose to be do close them up.
I am installing email accounts, and will let you know how it goes.. I don't think i will keep it, because it is a memory hog rom, although stable and performance is not too bad.
BigE
Test is over... after 1 hour
Ok folks, memory management of this rom is horrible. I don't know if it WM6.5, or the M2D, but for sure it is impossible to have only 8M RAM free after one hour of use. All i have done was connect to an exchange server, and have made nothing else. Kept the phone aside and looked at memory after an hour. Dropped from 18M to 8M and I think after enough time it would have crashed. it seems memory leaks.
I would be very afraid to leave home with this rom. first it 'expire'. Then it leaks memory, and third the WM6.5 is not my cup of tea at all. I hate the bee-hive and the way it moves on the phone. Only way to organize it is to create folders and move shortcuts around. WM6.5 has some nice tabs and scroll bars, but it does not justify the rest. IMHO it is a draw back from WM6.1 , even if 6.1 isn't perfect at least it works and I know how to work around the bugs. 6.5 is not for trinity, I am afraid...
Ah, there are also at least one shortcut (getting started) that does not work for me (error message trying to run).
Well, it is BETA for a reason, but knowing PDAViet, I would say he tried the impossible and was almost doing a good job. As for myself- i am back to FinixOver 3.7UL and pointui2 as plugin. Quick, 30M free RAM, nice animation and stable like I need. RAM do not leak, and phone is running smooth.
Was it a complete waste of time to try? No, I have learned some good lesson. Will be very suspicious with other WM6.5 roms..
BigE
Additional feedback
Agreeing with all BigE said above, I add:
1) No video call in dialer.
2) "getting started" app does not work.
3) The "titanium" today plug-in is having many of Manilla-2d functionality with (a little) less memory consumption.
4) Uniting advanced power and backlight setting to one screen is (at last) very well welcomed.
5)memory...memory...memory.
I concur with the above findings. It is unfortunately not very responsive. I guess the overhead is too much for our Trinity.
The ROM lags terribly. However, I still appreciate the effort made by PDAViet.
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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sounds great!!, loking forward for your www release
chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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I agree with u chanvi93.
I'm waiting 4 your next wwe release.
Thanx master.
WM6.5
Chanvi93,
Your roms are superb, no doubt, and you are right I am judging WM6.5 by one rom I tried and did not like. So let's hope what we have tried and failed isn't because of 6.5.
Can we hope for super lite WM6.5 rom ? I have tried yours, and have to admit, I liked them much but m2d isn't the right plug-in for me, especially after using pointui home2. So a naked WM6.5 rom WWE sound promising.
looking forward for your rom
BigE
chanvi93 said:
Hello guys
Why so negative ?? WM 6.5 is the futur , i am on my own Rom wm6.5 build 21169 FRA since 4 days and iam very glad and happy , it's sure that interface and use method are completely new , i like it now more than M2D , i will share with you all as soon as i translate it to wwe , original is in CHS , if you want .
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Thanks for that Chanvi, I was indeed getting depressed reading this thread! Looking forward to your 6.5 build. Have you decided if you are going to include footprints or not? From what I can see, Iolite / Footprint is asking a lot of our humble Trinities. Previous Manila version has better performance maybe?
Mattster.
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
ON 05/03/2009
ROM WM6.5 V47 CHO HTC TRINITY
BETA VERSION - CORE 21169
HTC Iolita
Manila2D
FIX , MMS
LINK :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
PASS :- PhamQuang
arnooo said:
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
ON 05/03/2009
ROM WM6.5 V47 CHO HTC TRINITY
BETA VERSION - CORE 21169
HTC Iolita
Manila2D
FIX , MMS
LINK :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/205688353/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_47__B21169.rar
PASS :- PhamQuang
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Sorry but, sms are not working....
Mattster_spv said:
Thanks for that Chanvi, I was indeed getting depressed reading this thread! Looking forward to your 6.5 build. Have you decided if you are going to include footprints or not? From what I can see, Iolite / Footprint is asking a lot of our humble Trinities. Previous Manila version has better performance maybe?
Mattster.
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Hello
It's done in my threat , 2 versions : Full with Footprint components and Lite without .
Footprint is a great soft for great traveller as me , i use it daily in work , don't need Manila for it so it don't use more ram if you don't launch .
@BigE
Super lite in wm 6.5 is not very good because some short cut and little softs are necessary for use .
not for this thread but anyways
have just flashed Chanvi's 3/8 Wm6.5 lite rom. I will report my testing on his thread, as this one is for PDAViet rom.
See you there in few hours I guess.
BigE
someone can upload some screenshot???
Trinity ROM WM6.5 (BETA-V47) CHO HTC TRINITY
Great Rom , but there is some memory leak, so phone must be often reboot ...
can run with P3600i from standart ROM???
yeh, copyr image file to your SD card and power+camera+reste you will get it flash. but memory arrangement is not that good.
this only from what i did.
galih_dian said:
can run with P3600i from standart ROM???
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I want know which Rom is better in
Free Ram
Performence
Storage
compatible with software
Battery Drain
Make My Day! said:
I want know which Rom is better in
Free Ram
Performence
Storage
compatible with software
Battery Drain
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6.1 works great with me
6.1 is better in everything you wrote
6.1 will be better
from what I heard, 6.5 would be slower, memory hunger, cpu eater...
hello
WM6.1 more free RAM
WM6.5 more responsive
This is what I can say comparing the ROMs of CV93+Oggi.
Regards
Hi to all.
For me , not exist a rom ok for all.
WM 6.1 is ok for any function but is slow.
WM 6.5 is very fast , but again is not regulary ,
with many bugs,
I am waiting a rom very very beautifull ,
without bugs.
When ????
Bye .......
i found 6.1 is much faster and good ram Management, some of rom like i m using NiAx 40 which is very clean, i have tried couple of 6.5 rom but they are very slow and un stable, i would better stick with 6.1, may be 6.5 requires more ram then TRINITY have.
Hello all
WM 6.1 is in the end and WM 6.5 is in beginning of development .
6.5 is faster , nicer , smoother etc... 6.1 but use 4 or 5 MB of RAM more , my latest wm 6.1 in Ultra Lite has more than 31 MB of RAM and latest 6.5 has only 27 MB and can to be daily use .
Hope this synthese help you .
WM6.5 is BETA but..
Folks,
I think Chanvi gave the best answer so let me just repeat it and add:
1. WM6.1 is at the end of the road. True, there isn't yet a phone that comes with WM6.5 but soon it will start.
2. WM6.1 has an advantage regarding free RAM. However, with some clever tweaks (using kitchens) it is possible to create a ROM that will serve ANY application that runs on WM6.1 to run on WM6.5
3. WM6.5 has more than few annoying bugs of WM6.1 resolved. Original WM6.1 used to have some major issues, such as lock users out with 'wrong password' and other MS crap. It was all fixed in WM6.5
4. The GUI in WM6.5 is great. It takes time to get used to it, and I was between the ones complaining about the change it took from WM6.1 but the naked truth is when i tried to be back to WM6.1 it was bad experience for me.
5. Finger friendly- I hardly use the stylus in WM6.5 So much easier than WM6.1 was.
6. Stability- Sorry to 'disappoint' you, but at least Chanvi came up with a set of ROMs that are too good to be true. not one crash since April (two months) , great memory management (no leaks) and good battery life. It isn't all WM6.5, it is , I think, because Chanvi and Oggi are very talanted. Nevertheless- WM6.5 is , by far, superior to WM6.1
And I was one of the people thinking WM6.5 was too heavy for our trinity..
To get you an idea: I run 3 email accounts (one exchange) , my today plugin is home2 (heavy graphics) and I use iGO8 for GPS navigation, with high resolution and 3D (but no TTS).
And lastly- it makes the phone beautiful. Whenever someone shows me his iPHONE/Samsung/HTC Fuze/whatever with standard ROM, and I show him my cooked WM6.5 on a 3 years old phone (!) it is impressive... and runs as good as theirs, if not better. 3 years in phone years is 21 years in dog years.. LOL.. so much for phones, especially XDA ones.
well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.
Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).
I even flashed 6.5 onto my friend phone, as to try out the new and latest OS, and he too came back to me after a week, saying please save me and reflash back 6.1 as it's too slow for him.
We are business users hence accessing options like SMS, MMS, and web browser and switching back and fourth between applications should be fast. Unfortunately 6.5 does not provide that. It's fast, but just the today's interface and when clicking start, but when you actually load any application, it will take longer than 6.1 which we can't bare anymore..
In the end, my friend flashed trynnt ROM and I flashed another ROM which uses diamond interface runs on 6.1 and have no speed issues anymore.
neato4u said:
well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.
Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).
I even flashed 6.5 onto my friend phone, as to try out the new and latest OS, and he too came back to me after a week, saying please save me and reflash back 6.1 as it's too slow for him.
We are business users hence accessing options like SMS, MMS, and web browser and switching back and fourth between applications should be fast. Unfortunately 6.5 does not provide that. It's fast, but just the today's interface and when clicking start, but when you actually load any application, it will take longer than 6.1 which we can't bare anymore..
In the end, my friend flashed trynnt ROM and I flashed another ROM which uses diamond interface runs on 6.1 and have no speed issues anymore.
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Hi neato2u
I'm agree only on thing with you on IE (web browser) is not good in WM 6.5 if you use new IE8 with widgets , it's very slow and lag because our device have not enough free CPU (not ram) .
I use also in professional and business , i don't know exactly how many e mail i have (stored in sd card) but certainly more than 1 thousand with 3 account , Tomtom 7.910 daily use ,more than 2 hours phone (Voip included) by day et... , my rom is a Extra Ultra Full with Titanium + Manila + SPB Mobile as interface , i change interface when in job or wk or holidays . Never problem crash or other , only one thing is true , some app. like "Auto Hibernate" or "Activesync Killer" don't work in wm 6.5 so recently i find and use cleanRAM level3 with settings by run auto all 3 hours .
You can not compare HTCHome interface with Titanium or Manila , of course HTCHome is the lighter interface but older also , you can also install HTCHome in wm 6.5 , it will work better than in 6.1
Regards
Things you can do..
neato4u said:
well apart from the comments above I personally think I like 6.1 better.
Used chanvi 6.5 for 2 weeks, and I can't stand the slow response of the device, especially accessing my SMS (i store lots of em) and it takes more time to load and switch between applications (about 2 - 4 seconds more than when using 6.1).
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Some comments, as you did not mention some crucial info...
1. Have you tried IE6UltraLite ROM?
2. Do you support the phone with any tools like SKTOOLS for memory managment and shadow RAM services?
3. Ever tried opera MINI 4.2? (not opera mobile, don't confuse between the two). IE6 or IE8 are a disaster app, regardless if you use WM6.1 or WM6.5
I am, like you, using this XDA for business. I have no issues with either OS, provided I am taking good care of the installation of the above. Please keep in mind this phobe is not HTC but Dopod (were bought by HTC) and since WM5 there is not much of support for it by HTC. If you intend to keep using the trinity, even if with WM6.1, you can make it more efficient.
If you have installed the full blown IE8 version, yes, I agree with you it is not business oriented. But Chanvi has the lite just for the business side of it.
Besides, if you are really away from a computer and use your phone heavily, making it finger friendly is the main thing WM6.1 is missing. The GUI (and I mean the pull down menus) is what makes the difference for me. I was hesitating a lot with WM6.5 until Chanvi proved me step by step how WM6.5 can give me what i am looking for.
Other than that, the naked truth is a 64M RAM phone is a joke.
BigE
wm 6.1 is better u can do more
WM 6.5
Hi all
this is my first fost...sorry for my bad english.
After a lot of change now i'n usin PDA ROM WM6.5 V49.
It works very well...fast and stable. For me is the best one now.
bye
chanvi93 said:
Hello all
WM 6.1 is in the end and WM 6.5 is in beginning of development .
6.5 is faster , nicer , smoother etc... 6.1 but use 4 or 5 MB of RAM more , my latest wm 6.1 in Ultra Lite has more than 31 MB of RAM and latest 6.5 has only 27 MB and can to be daily use .
Hope this synthese help you .
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brother u r doing a good job but as u have said "WM 6.5 is in beginning of development" is right i have used ur lite 6.5 rom for couple of days and found is not stable as 6.1. (i m sorry if i have disappointed you)
i really appreciate your contribution to the forum and i will keep track of ur roms.
Thanks
regards
Please share your findings. How did you conclude its unstable?
Regards
sohil said:
brother u r doing a good job but as u have said "WM 6.5 is in beginning of development" is right i have used ur lite 6.5 rom for couple of days and found is not stable as 6.1. (i m sorry if i have disappointed you)
i really appreciate your contribution to the forum and i will keep track of ur roms.
Thanks
regards
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BigE said:
Folks,
I think Chanvi gave the best answer so let me just repeat it and add:
1. WM6.1 is at the end of the road. True, there isn't yet a phone that comes with WM6.5 but soon it will start.
2. WM6.1 has an advantage regarding free RAM. However, with some clever tweaks (using kitchens) it is possible to create a ROM that will serve ANY application that runs on WM6.1 to run on WM6.5
3. WM6.5 has more than few annoying bugs of WM6.1 resolved. Original WM6.1 used to have some major issues, such as lock users out with 'wrong password' and other MS crap. It was all fixed in WM6.5
4. The GUI in WM6.5 is great. It takes time to get used to it, and I was between the ones complaining about the change it took from WM6.1 but the naked truth is when i tried to be back to WM6.1 it was bad experience for me.
5. Finger friendly- I hardly use the stylus in WM6.5 So much easier than WM6.1 was.
6. Stability- Sorry to 'disappoint' you, but at least Chanvi came up with a set of ROMs that are too good to be true. not one crash since April (two months) , great memory management (no leaks) and good battery life. It isn't all WM6.5, it is , I think, because Chanvi and Oggi are very talanted. Nevertheless- WM6.5 is , by far, superior to WM6.1
And I was one of the people thinking WM6.5 was too heavy for our trinity..
To get you an idea: I run 3 email accounts (one exchange) , my today plugin is home2 (heavy graphics) and I use iGO8 for GPS navigation, with high resolution and 3D (but no TTS).
And lastly- it makes the phone beautiful. Whenever someone shows me his iPHONE/Samsung/HTC Fuze/whatever with standard ROM, and I show him my cooked WM6.5 on a 3 years old phone (!) it is impressive... and runs as good as theirs, if not better. 3 years in phone years is 21 years in dog years.. LOL.. so much for phones, especially XDA ones.
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I'm agree with almost everything you said, but I think those few MB of RAM consumption difference are critical. I installed CV93+Oggi WM 6.5 OS 21501 and since can't use iGO (I tried several versions, even the new amigo) and it always says "out of memory" after a few minutes in best case. So if you need any RAM hungry app 6.5 is not for you, in any other case it may be the best option.
My impressions are: battery works for much longer, about 10 more hours with low/normal use (no wifi or bt, just phone). Screen and phone perfomance are better, in apps it's the same than 6.1. And I didn't find any incompatible software.
If there was anyway to close CHome, like manilla, we could get a few more RAM.
juan_sck said:
I'm agree with almost everything you said, but I think those few MB of RAM consumption difference are critical. I installed CV93+Oggi WM 6.5 OS 21501 and since can't use iGO (I tried several versions, even the new amigo) and it always says "out of memory" after a few minutes in best case. So if you need any RAM hungry app 6.5 is not for you, in any other case it may be the best option.
My impressions are: battery works for much longer, about 10 more hours with low/normal use (no wifi or bt, just phone). Screen and phone perfomance are better, in apps it's the same than 6.1. And I didn't find any incompatible software.
If there was anyway to close CHome, like manilla, we could get a few more RAM.
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If you use Chanvi's latest WM 6.5 Kitchen, you can leave CHome and Manilla out completely! BigE is getting up to 29MB free in this way on one of his UltraLites. Without TTS, iGO8 breathes quite well on this.
SuperSport said:
If you use Chanvi's latest WM 6.5 Kitchen, you can leave CHome and Manilla out completely! BigE is getting up to 29MB free in this way on one of his UltraLites. Without TTS, iGO8 breathes quite well on this.
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I certainly do.. my best results were with the 21232 IE6UltraLite by Chanvi. 27M free RAM and 78M free storage. I skinned out M2D and CHOME (I use home2) and I run SKTOOLS to optimize memory. Joel from Pointui has created a home2 file that will send graphics to the storage memory, and on top I am using mToday to switch all home pluggins off before i run iGO. I get 23-26M free RAM (23 if I do not soft reset, 26 if I do) and can run iGO in high resolution and buildings, while syncing with 3 email accounts, get text messages and calls. If you have more need than that, than trinity is not for you. It is a 4 years old device with miserable 64M RAM... we are kind of beating a dead horse here, and Chanvi is able to give it a nice push and keep it alive before Diamond2 is released (I mean 3G supported around the world, not just EU, hard SPL released for unlocking, and decent forum activity to support it with cooks and testing).
The thing is, I have to admit, in order to make the device 'behave' it takes some tweaking and knowlegde, and it is not for the lazy or faint heart user..
BigE
Now that all new ROMS are being cooked with Windows 6.5, I wonder if those of us that prefer 6.1 have finally reached the end of our Trinity journey.
Personally, as a user of SPB Mobile Shell 3.1, I really don't need the memory expense of a flashy start menu with icons, or an extended scrolling today page. As a result, I have now been using the same ROM (the excellent Team CV93+Oggi's WM6.1 21042 UltraLite) for a record period of time! I guess as always it boils down to personal preference, but... is that the end of the road for new build 6.1 ROMS?
Hi
every body
Hi Mattster_spv
the last 6.1 fast and stable 21042 or 21046.
21042 fast and stable
21046 stable ~~
LAST LAST 6.1 21018 for me no stable no fast ...comparaison 21042...
Actually i work for very very optimize 21042...
share kitchen optimize surelly end july.
with other packtage : examply mouse for trinity (style omnia )
HH+ for today and manilla last version ...
Personalize my style blue sky
Regard Oggi
oggi1969 said:
Actually i work for very very optimize 21042...
share kitchen optimize surelly end july.
with other packtage : examply mouse for trinity (style omnia )
HH+ for today and manilla last version ...
Personalize my style blue sky
Regard Oggi
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This would be great!!
Like Mattster I'm using 6.1 with MS3, and if you are trying to optimize even more the 21042, it's really great news.
Thank you for wonderfull work( and Chanvi also)
No,
Just cook a rom whithout chome (or disable the plugin in today screen)...
For start menu, you will need to install quickmenu.
If you don't want the new themes (scroll bars etc...), use a tsk from a 6.1 theme
Voila! wm 6.5 whith 6.1 appareance
Hi
@Mac_es
YES..... But ?,, programs and settings 6.5 not similart ....
programs and setting 6.5 versus programs and settings 6.1 Ram 2 Mo
example: " 6.5 light " with methode (no chome, no manilla, )quick menu
Just cook a rom whithout chome (or disable the plugin in today screen)...
For start menu, you will need to install quickmenu.
If you don't want the new themes (scroll bars etc...), use a tsk from a 6.1 theme
Voila! wm 6.5 whith 6.1 appareance
first boot after reset ...Ram 28
example: " 6.1 light 21042 optimize" (no today , no manila ) quick menu
first boot after reset ...30 ram
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Chanvi Cook 6.5 kitchen great look fast and stable . kitchen (20 / 28 Ram )
My... Cook 6.1 kitchen look ... presonalize . fast and stable . kitchen (22 / 30 Ram )
Because IGO8 and another app consumer big ram and trinity is very very poor Ram.
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Just choise...
Sorry for my bad english
Regard Oggi
oggi1969 said:
Hi
@Mac_es
YES..... But ?,, programs and settings 6.5 not similart ....
programs and setting 6.5 versus programs and settings 6.1 Ram 2 Mo
example: " 6.5 light " with methode (no chome, no manilla, )quick menu
Just cook a rom whithout chome (or disable the plugin in today screen)...
For start menu, you will need to install quickmenu.
If you don't want the new themes (scroll bars etc...), use a tsk from a 6.1 theme
Voila! wm 6.5 whith 6.1 appareance
first boot after reset ...Ram 28
example: " 6.1 light 21042 optimize" (no today , no manila ) quick menu
first boot after reset ...30 ram
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Chanvi Cook 6.5 kitchen great look fast and stable . kitchen (20 / 28 Ram )
My... Cook 6.1 kitchen look ... presonalize . fast and stable . kitchen (22 / 30 Ram )
Because IGO8 and another app consumer big ram and trinity is very very poor Ram.
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Just choise...
Sorry for my bad english
Regard Oggi
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Of course, wm6.5 eats more ram but you have a more finger friendly os... fex
Whith chanvi's kitchen whith the cab for quickmenu and removing honeycomb he gets 23MB ram free. Also, if you delete all png related to themes you should gain some more ram...
I'm only saying that you can get a 6.5 rom whith 6.1 UI...
I'm using TomTom so whith 21MB RAM free (my own build 23001 whith CHOME plus everything I need) I'm really happy
@mac_es
,-) .....
oggi1969 said:
Actually i work for very very optimize 21042...
share kitchen optimize surelly end july.
with other packtage : examply mouse for trinity (style omnia )
HH+ for today and manilla last version ...
Personalize my style blue sky
Regard Oggi
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Hi Oggi.
Thanks for letting us know. This is great news!
Mattster.
mac_es said:
No,
Just cook a rom whithout chome (or disable the plugin in today screen)...
For start menu, you will need to install quickmenu.
If you don't want the new themes (scroll bars etc...), use a tsk from a 6.1 theme
Voila! wm 6.5 whith 6.1 appareance
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Hi mac_es,
Yes, I tried this but eventually had the sensation that all I was doing was turning a 6.5 into a 6.1, so then I thought... why not just stick with 6.1?!
Interesting hearing peoples comments though.
I guess one big factor is if the user wants (like most of us) for their device to have the latest technology (which is why we're all addicted to flashing!).
The votes are fairly 50:50 so far.
Mattster.
I am biased towards WM6.5
Hi Friend,
I urge you to try Chanvi's recent 23001... Dude- it is both smart, quick, well managed memory, and the kitchen is awesome.
None of the WM6.1 I used to flash was not that good. i am sire oggi will come up with a superb WM6.1 and it is most likely be as good as the WM6.5, however, I find it hard to believe you still use Win98 right? XP was a natural way to go, and WM7 will be the next thing (ignore Vista for the analogy..)
Same is with WM6.5 in a year from now I wish you a new phone (WVGA and lots of RAM) but if you will still have trinity for any reason (I will probably keep it) then Wm6.5 is the closest to the new generation phones.
BigE
PS: I voted W6.5 and now it is not 50:50 ..
Hi to all
I liked very much the Rom's of Team CV93+Oggi.
The 21042 is fantastic concerning free Rom. The 6.5 Rom are also great and with QM the free Rom is not bad.
But with this roms and no additional SW I have had some problems:
1. when I made a call from a fix net to my trinity than the display appears only after 1-2 beeps on the fix phone and then it takes another beep before my trinity start to ring
2. sometimes I had missed call/sms but good network
The only solution for me was to install SPB Phone Suite to be rememered all 5 minutes for missed calls or sms.
Now I'm back to good old 017TNYSTD:
1. before I can hear first beep on fixnet phone the dispaly goes on and with first beep or a little later my trinity rings, also with many additional SW
Do you have the same expirience?
My favourite rom would be 21042 because of the free space (iGO8) but the phone part of my Trinity has to be 100% working.
Do you have an idea?
@Oggi,
could it be fixed on new 21042
Regards,
sole71
Hi
@Sole71
1) Sorry for my bad english .
2) What's this ? SW...
I will change the driver of the parties telephony.
I do not know if this will solve your problem.
I cook as Rom french and I have no problem on the Rom in France.
Because my english is very very bad .
Maybe the change of driver solve your problem.
Can be ???? ...
I modified a lot to do and that can very time ....women, kids, work, sports, friends, party, ect ... So not until the last week of July.
How to get the ROM "Team CV93+Oggi's WM6.1 21042 UltraLite"
I've had a few people IM me asking where I got this ROM from, so I thought I'd post the answer here:
To get this ROM you need to "create" it using Chanvi's Kitchen. Don't worry, it's not really "create", it's just selecting it and hitting a button. Follow these steps:
1. Scroll down to POST 2 of the thread below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513421
There you will see a link for WM 6.1 Kitchen AND Emulator WM 6.5 from MS. Click on 21042 WM 6.1 WWE+FRA Kitchen for Trinity [/B]
If you prefer, just click on the following link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5330c72c2c98e20d7069484bded33bcd48c3279b870421d7
2. Download and save the Kitchen zip to your desktop. Once downloaded open it up and copy the folder inside to your desktop.
3. Open the foldfer and click on Ervius Kitchen exe.
A box will appear.
4. Re-select Trinity (important to do this) then select the ultralite rom in the drop down menu on the right.
5. Click on the Create Rom.
6. Whilst the ROM is being put together, connect your device via usb to get Active Sync going. When the ROM is ready, the familiar flash screen will appear and I guess you know it from there!
Any problems give me a shout.
Mattster.
Nice thread Mattster!!
I also miss WM6.1 ROMs... I use iGO8 and RAM is always a problem! If only we had more memory
I would gladly move to WM6.5 but I need the RAM for iGO8.
Interested to see what Oggi can come with!
Go WM6.1!
joncgde2 said:
Nice thread Mattster!!
I also miss WM6.1 ROMs... I use iGO8 and RAM is always a problem! If only we had more memory
I would gladly move to WM6.5 but I need the RAM for iGO8.
Interested to see what Oggi can come with!
Go WM6.1!
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Hi joncgde.
Thanks for the post.
If you use iGO8, user "BigE" could have a lot of good advice for you. He is somewhat of an expert at tweaking the Trinity to work well iGO8, even with a 6.5 ROM. He speaks very well of Chanvi's recent 23001.
That said, the votes for users of just Windows 6.1 vs users of just 6.5 are at present 50:50, plus there are other users who enjoy both. Interesting stuff.
Mattster.
hi Mattster_spv, i guess we are somewhat similar. a fast naked rom with simple UI. i have voted wm6.1 for this reason. i guess our trinity is not a good candidate to run wm6.5. i still preferred the good old htc home than chome (too many steps). i'm a big fan of finixnover and chanvi & oggi. my device still running th elast cooked rom of finix's. it would definitely make my day if the great cooker would just keep on updating wm6.1 rom. thanks.
callmepaper said:
i'm a big fan of finixnover and chanvi & oggi. my device still running th elast cooked rom of finix's. it would definitely make my day if the great cooker would just keep on updating wm6.1 rom. thanks.
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Hi Callmepaper.
I totally agree. The only real reason I don't use Finix's last light rom is that it's too black. Looks great but sometimes hard to see in the sun. Such a shame he broke his Trinity!
Mattster.
p.s. Apologies for incorrect link above. I have changed the instructions now on how to get Chanvi & Oggi's UltraLite 6.1. Please see post above.
oggi1969 said:
Hi
@Sole71
1) Sorry for my bad english .
2) What's this ? SW...
....
I modified a lot to do and that can very time ....women, kids, work, sports, friends, party, ect ... So not until the last week of July.
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@Oggi,
1) mine is not better
2) SW Software (cabs)
It's not a problem to wait until last week of July, because I'm at holliday
Merci beaucoup pour ton travail!!!
sole71
Mattster_spv said:
Hi joncgde.
Thanks for the post.
If you use iGO8, user "BigE" could have a lot of good advice for you. He is somewhat of an expert at tweaking the Trinity to work well iGO8, even with a 6.5 ROM. He speaks very well of Chanvi's recent 23001.
That said, the votes for users of just Windows 6.1 vs users of just 6.5 are at present 50:50, plus there are other users who enjoy both. Interesting stuff.
Mattster.
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I recommend you visit and try SafeMode 3.1. See www.monocube.com
I have only 10M free RAm when i use the phone as Phone/PDA. When i want to use iGO I reset the phone, and start it in 'safe mode'. Than I run iGO with freaking 31M free RAM although i have WM6.5 !!!!!!!!!
I enjoy both worlds- tons of free RAm when needed for iGO, or beautiful GUI, graphics and features otherwise. For whom who thinks Trinity can not deal with WM6.5 - I was that pesimistic too, until Chanvi the great proved me wrong...
BigE
Of the 53 votes so far:
43% of you prefer Roms with Windows 6.1.
26% of you only use Roms with Windows 6.5.
30% of you use both.
Very interesting. Keep voting people!